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NFA [TotalFark]
2013-07-06 09:29:58 AM
They weren't flags, they were psychic paper.
 
2013-07-06 09:45:56 AM
Thanks Obama!  Obvious alien appeaser!
 
2013-07-06 10:22:33 AM
White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!
 
2013-07-06 10:30:19 AM
If Bush didn't gut NASA spending, Obama would still be celebrating it's successes today.

/science!
 
2013-07-06 10:45:46 AM

legion_of_doo: If Bush didn't gut NASA spending, Obama would still be celebrating it's successes today.

/science!


He and his daddy said the U.S. was going to Mars. Voodoo space program to go with voodoo trickle down economics.
 
2013-07-06 11:35:15 AM

2wolves: legion_of_doo: If Bush didn't gut NASA spending, Obama would still be celebrating it's successes today.

/science!

He and his daddy said the U.S. was going to Mars. Voodoo space program to go with voodoo trickle down economics.


He may have said it but he never fought hard for the funding to make it happen.

If we'd kept NASA funding steady as a percentage of the federal budget since the 60s we'd have landed men on Mars and have a permanent manned outpost on the Moon learning how to grow crops and exist self-sufficiently by now.

Even at the height of development in the Apollo program NASA's budget never went beyond 4.41% of the budget overall, and today it's only 0.48% after over two decades of decline since 1991.
 
2013-07-06 11:37:09 AM
media.syracuse.com

Welcome to Earf.
 
2013-07-06 12:40:51 PM
Maybe the moon belongs to France now.
 
2013-07-06 12:44:06 PM
The American flags planted on the moon have turned white. Obviously this means we've already surrendered to alien invaders sound stage conspiracy theories
 
2013-07-06 12:44:22 PM

Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!


THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.
 
2013-07-06 12:55:54 PM
They made the flags out of cheap ass nylon? I kinda assumed they would have to tried something a bit more durable, like Beta cloth and metallic pigments. Huh.
 
2013-07-06 12:56:18 PM
On the bright side, the colors didn't run.
 
2013-07-06 01:14:32 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.


Humanity cooperating for a common purpose?  McCarthy must be spinning in his grave!
 
2013-07-06 01:37:20 PM
Clearly, I need a washing machine that produces gamma radiation when on the whites setting.
 
2013-07-06 01:53:47 PM

StopLurkListen: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Humanity cooperating for a common purpose?  McCarthy must be spinning in his grave!


It's a little more like "the US is too obsessed with its own petty problems to actually innovate anymore, and we've ceded all efforts to explore space to other nations".
 
2013-07-06 02:03:17 PM
Just go back to the studio and change the farking things.
 
2013-07-06 02:07:13 PM

mark12A: They made the flags out of cheap ass nylon? I kinda assumed they would have to tried something a bit more durable, like Beta cloth and metallic pigments. Huh.


With all the radiation they're getting blasted with, they'd probably be bleached by now regardless.
 
2013-07-06 02:10:00 PM
They got the flags at the NASA gift shop.  They were only intended to look good for the pictures until the astronauts left.

/At least one was blown down by the ascent stage exhaust.
 
2013-07-06 02:11:28 PM
White flag on the moon. How did it get there?
 
2013-07-06 02:16:47 PM

zerkalo: White flag on the moon. How did it get there?


The secret French space program.
 
2013-07-06 02:19:38 PM

Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!


Right, it must have been someone else who just flew a nuclear robot 60 million miles to Mars and lowered it to the surface on a god-damn levitating crane.

/we don't need no stinkin meat puppets
 
2013-07-06 02:30:13 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: StopLurkListen: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Humanity cooperating for a common purpose?  McCarthy must be spinning in his grave!

It's a little more like "the US is too obsessed with its own petty problems to actually innovate anymore, and we've ceded all efforts to explore space to other nations".


Remind me again which country just dropped a rover on a different planet using a sky crane?

If you're not trying to keep meat bags alive, you save weight. We're shooting Mars up close with a laser. We don't need a person on the scene to check the results.
 
2013-07-06 02:32:34 PM
I love how the "definitive proof" is a couple people speculating that, since things eventually bleach themselves white in the UV rays on Earth, the same process must occur on the Moon.  No one really knows what color or level of pigmentation are left in the flags today.
 
2013-07-06 02:37:43 PM

TuteTibiImperes: 2wolves: legion_of_doo: If Bush didn't gut NASA spending, Obama would still be celebrating it's successes today.

/science!

He and his daddy said the U.S. was going to Mars. Voodoo space program to go with voodoo trickle down economics.

He may have said it but he never fought hard for the funding to make it happen.

If we'd kept NASA funding steady as a percentage of the federal budget since the 60s we'd have landed men on Mars and have a permanent manned outpost on the Moon learning how to grow crops and exist self-sufficiently by now.

Even at the height of development in the Apollo program NASA's budget never went beyond 4.41% of the budget overall, and today it's only 0.48% after over two decades of decline since 1991.


NASA had lots of funding. The problem is they scrubbed the Apollo program in favor of the craptastic shuttle program. Not that they had much choice. We had already done the r&d on the Saturn rocket and F1 engine. The politicians needed a black hole to through money down to make contractors rich.
 
2013-07-06 02:37:47 PM

oryx: Maybe the moon belongs to France now.


Of course. It's made of cheese, after all.
 
2013-07-06 02:45:44 PM

SCUBA_Archer: I love how the "definitive proof" is a couple people speculating that, since things eventually bleach themselves white in the UV rays on Earth, the same process must occur on the Moon.  No one really knows what color or level of pigmentation are left in the flags today.


High energy photons... how do they work?

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-07-06 02:51:57 PM

Cucullen: TuteTibiImperes: 2wolves: legion_of_doo: If Bush didn't gut NASA spending, Obama would still be celebrating it's successes today.

/science!

He and his daddy said the U.S. was going to Mars. Voodoo space program to go with voodoo trickle down economics.

He may have said it but he never fought hard for the funding to make it happen.

If we'd kept NASA funding steady as a percentage of the federal budget since the 60s we'd have landed men on Mars and have a permanent manned outpost on the Moon learning how to grow crops and exist self-sufficiently by now.

Even at the height of development in the Apollo program NASA's budget never went beyond 4.41% of the budget overall, and today it's only 0.48% after over two decades of decline since 1991.

NASA had lots of funding. The problem is they scrubbed the Apollo program in favor of the craptastic shuttle program. Not that they had much choice. We had already done the r&d on the Saturn rocket and F1 engine. The politicians needed a black hole to through money down to make contractors rich.


The Shuttle served us well for a long time.  The idea of a reusable craft was a good one, and I'm a little disappointed that we've moved back to rockets instead of investing more heavily into something that can take off like a plane, achieve LEO, and then land again like a plane, but it is what it is.

A rocket that can take off and then land again is probably the next best thing, and that's what SpaceX just successfully tested (though it just went up 10 stories).

As far as manned missions go - we may not need them to do the science we're doing, but they're undeniably cool.  If we want to encourage more people into the scientific fields and get more public support behind increased funding for the space program we need to put human beings on Mars or start building a permanent base on the Moon - we've had satellites and rovers for decades, they're just not exciting for the average person anymore.
 
2013-07-06 03:00:56 PM

padraig: zerkalo: White flag on the moon. How did it get there?

The secret French space program.


Came for a french reference, I surrender to your wit.
 
2013-07-06 03:14:59 PM

zerkalo: White flag on the moon. How did it get there?


Joseph Javorski. Noted scientist.
 
2013-07-06 03:23:23 PM

legion_of_doo: If Bush didn't gut NASA spending, Obama would still be celebrating it's successes today.

/science!


What? Obama is just as guilty of gutting NASA as Bush was.
 
2013-07-06 03:24:41 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.


Then move to Russia if it's so important to you. Somehow I don't think you will. Space just isn't that important, and doesn't mean much about how good or bad a country is.
 
2013-07-06 03:47:27 PM
We've surrendered our space program, why not the rest.
 
2013-07-06 03:52:19 PM
Less than a year ago the US landed the largest rover ever on Mars using a Rube Goldberg like multi stage landing process that included a rocket powered floating crane. And yet people on here want to moan about the Ruskies being better in space. Get over it... Star Trek is never going to happen. It's a tv show and we're not going to have that future.

The unmanned missions that NASA, JPL, and associated agencies put together are kicking major butt. Low Earth orbit is a relatively solved problem. Transition it over to companies like SpaceX and let NASA concentrate on points beyond.
 
2013-07-06 03:53:48 PM
legion_of_doo [TotalFark]


If Bush didn't gut NASA spending, Obama would still be celebrating it's successes today.

/science!

Trolling or just stupid?

[ why not both .jpg]

NDT disagrees with you.

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden frustrated with lack of Obama Mars commitment


NASA Director Says Muslim Outreach Push 'Deeply Flawed'


bu bu butttt buuuuush.
 
2013-07-06 04:49:52 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Then move to Russia if it's so important to you. Somehow I don't think you will. Space just isn't that important, and doesn't mean much about how good or bad a country is.


You say that every thread someone brings up the space race.

You're showing your hand, comrade
 
2013-07-06 07:08:15 PM

Sandwyrm: Quantum Apostrophe: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Then move to Russia if it's so important to you. Somehow I don't think you will. Space just isn't that important, and doesn't mean much about how good or bad a country is.

You say that every thread someone brings up the space race.

You're showing your hand, comrade


I'm just curious. People believe that having a space program makes a country advanced or desirable. Well, then go there.

If not, why not?

Wouldn't that mean that a space program doesn't mean that much after all??

That would be apostasy.
 
2013-07-06 07:25:45 PM

Cheese eating surrender monkey: oryx: Maybe the moon belongs to France now.

Of course. It's made of cheese, after all.


Blue cheese, not green cheese like they always told us.
 
2013-07-06 08:19:37 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.


Um. No. Russia hasn't ever sent humans beyond low earth orbit, they haven't even been able to launch anything unmanned from low earth orbit since 1988. Which is probably why ESA might be a bit nervous about flying their Mars rover rocket on one of their launch vehicles. Russian's have tried to send something beyond low earth orbit twice since the fall of the Soviet Union, both to Mars, and both fell back to earth. Meanwhile the US has Juno on the way to Jupiter, Cassini  still around Saturn after 8 years, Opportunity is still roving Mars after 9 years, LRO has been around the moon for three years, New Horizon is on its way to Pluto, the Voyager Spacecraft are headed out of the solar system and etc.

Meanwhile, operating Russian spacecraft/probes/whatever outside of low earth orbit? Null.

Sure there is a gap at the moment in manned spaceflight to low earth orbit, but Space X will probably launch the first manned American spacecraft either next year or 2015. I really don't see them launching later than that, but even if they don't launch until 2017 the gap will still be shorter than the Apollo-Shuttle gap.
 
2013-07-06 08:35:01 PM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-07-06 08:46:19 PM
What was that you said? I couldn't hear you over the giant rocket hover crane.
 
2013-07-06 08:46:37 PM

udhq: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

Right, it must have been someone else who just flew a nuclear robot 60 million miles to Mars and lowered it to the surface on a god-damn levitating crane.

/we don't need no stinkin meat puppets


This.  We can autonomously insert artificial life on other planets.  A soft powered landing.  Now we just have to find someplace worth overwhelming with our tech.

/Would hope I live long enough to jump from meat to sand
//Replicate me, send me out - Everywhere!
 
2013-07-06 09:37:05 PM
Republicans are outraged that we would allow a flag to be damaged.
 
2013-07-06 10:11:03 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Then move to Russia if it's so important to you. Somehow I don't think you will. Space just isn't that important, and doesn't mean much about how good or bad a country is.


You tend to go on (and on and on and on...) about why space, physics and tech advancements are not important. In your opinion, what IS important?
 
2013-07-06 10:17:46 PM

Brainsick: Quantum Apostrophe: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Then move to Russia if it's so important to you. Somehow I don't think you will. Space just isn't that important, and doesn't mean much about how good or bad a country is.

You tend to go on (and on and on and on...) about why space, physics and tech advancements are not important. In your opinion, what IS important?


His anti-space ranting! Poor QA can't go the day without a space thread I hear, it brings him joy ranting about how pointless it is and how we should live in the ocean instead.
 
2013-07-06 10:38:39 PM

Brainsick: Quantum Apostrophe: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Then move to Russia if it's so important to you. Somehow I don't think you will. Space just isn't that important, and doesn't mean much about how good or bad a country is.

You tend to go on (and on and on and on...) about why space, physics and tech advancements are not important. In your opinion, what IS important?


Show me where I said physics and tech advancements are not important?

I go on and on about the DELUSIONS people have that we'll colonize the universe with 3D printers and all the other sci-fi fecal matter that has invaded people's brains.

It's one thing to send test pilots in rubber suits to drink Tang in a tree-house in LEO, it's quite another to pick out the countertop material for your Mars condo.

Is my mockery not clear? How did it get to the point that you think I'm against physics?

Can you describe how you arrived at that conclusion?

Please supply quotes.

bbfreak: Brainsick: Quantum Apostrophe: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Seussie: White flags.  That about sums up the state of our space program!

THIS.  The US is now a country that would have to ask Russia's permission to get into space and replace those flags.

Then move to Russia if it's so important to you. Somehow I don't think you will. Space just isn't that important, and doesn't mean much about how good or bad a country is.

You tend to go on (and on and on and on...) about why space, physics and tech advancements are not important. In your opinion, what IS important?

His anti-space ranting! Poor QA can't go the day without a space thread I hear, it brings him joy ranting about how pointless it is and how we should live in the ocean instead.


This is called sarcasm. If one '60s prediction didn't come true (living in the ocean), why is another failed '60s prediction (the future! IN SPAAAAACE!) so important?
 
2013-07-06 10:47:44 PM
So in other words, painted lunar bases will fade over time, and outside maintenance will have to be done.

/be sure to mow the lawn
 
2013-07-06 11:14:30 PM

Begoggle: Republicans are outraged that we would allow a flag to be damaged.


Democrats are outraged that we have flags at all.
 
2013-07-07 12:00:12 AM

mark12A: They made the flags out of cheap ass nylon? I kinda assumed they would have to tried something a bit more durable, like Beta cloth and metallic pigments. Huh.


A multitude of reasons, after the flag had been planted and photos taken nobody cared being one.  Weight another, every oz mattered.  Cost had to be counted in as well, if they spent $$$ on the flags then that was $$$ not necessarily going towards the navigation system or life support equipment.  They needed something cheap, light and disposable but also hard wearing enough to survive the trip and man handling by someone in a bulky suit in good order.

Sounds like a perfect job for some cheap nylon flags to me.
 
2013-07-07 12:59:27 AM
Quantum Apostrophe
Is my mockery not clear? How did it get to the point that you think I'm against physics?

You come across as a cartoon character due to your pathological devotion to the subject. I even read your posts in the voice of Dr. Thaddeus Venture.

/sorry your dad lied to you about becoming an astronaut :(
 
2013-07-07 01:19:57 AM

TuteTibiImperes: A rocket that can take off and then land again is probably the next best thing, and that's what SpaceX just successfully tested (though it just went up 10 stories).



As of three weeks ago its a little over 1000 ft.

Video:  http://youtu.be/eGimzB5QM1M
 
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