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(CNN)   The most punchable face you will see all day   (money.cnn.com) divider line 42
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NFA [TotalFark]
2013-07-06 09:00:19 AM  
"President Obama said during a Google (GOOG, Fortune 500) Hangout discussion in February. "They're just trying to essentially leverage and hijack somebody else's idea and see if they can extort some money out of them."


This is exactly what corporations have been doing for nearly a century, sitting on patents and suing anyone who gets near the technology.

In a slightly different scenario, Thomas Edison is a national hero for employing bright people like Tesla, having them invent things then patenting the invention under his own name. Then suing anyone who makes a similar product or producing the product himself. Edison even sued the inventors for using the very same technologies they invented.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2013-07-06 09:09:27 AM  
i.qkme.me
 
2013-07-06 09:35:01 AM  
So this is what a human parasite looks like.
 
2013-07-06 12:21:16 PM  

NFA: "President Obama said during a Google (GOOG, Fortune 500) Hangout discussion in February. "They're just trying to essentially leverage and hijack somebody else's idea and see if they can extort some money out of them."


This is exactly what corporations have been doing for nearly a century, sitting on patents and suing anyone who gets near the technology.

In a slightly different scenario, Thomas Edison is a national hero for employing bright people like Tesla, having them invent things then patenting the invention under his own name. Then suing anyone who makes a similar product or producing the product himself. Edison even sued the inventors for using the very same technologies they invented.


I think their audacity has been getting greater in the last couple decades, hence the sudden focus on them.
 
2013-07-06 12:25:15 PM  

NFA: This is exactly what corporations have been doing for nearly a century, sitting on patents and suing anyone who gets near the technology.


Well over a century.  See Singer Sewing Machine
 
2013-07-06 12:29:57 PM  
You cannot defend this. I know that corporations do this as well but at least they produce something to defend. The buying of patents to just sue someone is wrong.

This guy makes me throw up in my mouth just a little. No a lot.
 
2013-07-06 12:36:04 PM  
SUH-MASH!!!
 
2013-07-06 12:37:55 PM  
mine

images.wikia.com
 
2013-07-06 12:39:47 PM  
TFA: Without a company like CopyTele, he says, small inventors would have no ability to defend their intellectual property against big companies looking to copy or steal their inventions.

This is B.S. He bought the patents that he "defends" from the small inventors, so they don't own them any more.
 
2013-07-06 12:43:06 PM  

lilbjorn: NFA: This is exactly what corporations have been doing for nearly a century, sitting on patents and suing anyone who gets near the technology.

Well over a century.  See Singer Sewing Machine


Right, it's always been like this so why fix it.

The big problem is that the rate of blatant scamming has been going up.  You have fake companies running under multiple shell companies trying to shake down businesses for using a photocopier.  You have businesses patenting vague stupid ideas.

You shouldn't be able to patent the idea of having a stapler sitting on your desk next to the tape dispenser, you shouldn't be able to patent the idea of a company emailing you a song/book you bought if you aren't doing any programming or distribution yourself (or hell, even allowing that as a patent period).
 
2013-07-06 01:04:03 PM  
Patents were intended to protect inventors (more so now: the corporations that employ them), not law firms that produce little more than headaches and clog our court systems.
 
2013-07-06 01:14:05 PM  
I was expecting Adele
 
2013-07-06 01:14:19 PM  
jesus, subby, you ain't kiddin'.
 
2013-07-06 01:19:42 PM  

oryx: TFA: Without a company like CopyTele, he says, small inventors would have no ability to defend their intellectual property against big companies looking to copy or steal their inventions.

This is B.S. He bought the patents that he "defends" from the small inventors, so they don't own them any more.


But the purchase agreement says that the inventor will be paid part of any future license revenues.  So this guy shells out less money to buy the patents, assumes the cost of defending them, and pays part of his rewards to the inventors. A bit different from other patent trolls.

Of course, it probably works like publishing and music contracts, in which real and questionable expenses are deducted from gross revenues leaving little or no "net" from which to pay authors and artists.
 
2013-07-06 01:30:16 PM  

Piizzadude: You cannot defend this


Well, if these scum were actually doing what they always claim they're doing - giving "small" inventors a place to monetize legitimate inventions without having to worry about fighting lawyered-up companies that steal their ideas - that would be defensible.

But when's the last time anybody followed the breadcrumbs from one of these trolls back to an original owner and found anything but lies when it comes to that?  NPR just did a piece where they followed one of these patents back to the original owner and it turns out it was just some guy who sat in on a meeting and took notes on an online backup idea. Then he submitted the notes from the meeting where OTHER PEOPLE came up with ideas that he stole to obtain the patent, then sold the patent off to a troll that used it against a couple of big companies like Carbonite (IIRC, they failed when EMC and a few others joined in and bludgeoned them in court).
 
2013-07-06 01:35:30 PM  
Anyone remember those little 'punch the (insert face here)' ads of days before adblock?  This guy would fit in perfectly.
 
2013-07-06 01:47:03 PM  
I'm working a 9 hour shift as a Walmart cashier tonight. I'm pretty sure I'm going to see a more punchable face than that one.
 
2013-07-06 01:48:20 PM  
"I'm a moral and ethical person, and I have no problem engaging in what I do," he proclaims

that's an easy thing to say when you have no morals or ethics
 
2013-07-06 02:25:32 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: "I'm a moral and ethical person, and I have no problem engaging in what I do," he proclaims

that's an easy thing to say when you have no morals or ethics


Everyone has morals and ethics.  Everyone has some morals and ethics of which you would disapprove.
 
2013-07-06 02:39:19 PM  
FTFA:  "They don't actually produce anything themselves," President Obama said during aGoogleHangout discussion in February. "They're just trying to essentially leverage and hijack somebody else's idea and see if they can extort some money out of them."

And that's the government's job.
 
2013-07-06 03:23:11 PM  
No mention was made of licensing patents.
 
2013-07-06 03:46:26 PM  
So.....how long until we read a story on Fark about him being found dead?
 
2013-07-06 04:11:13 PM  

OhioUGrad: So.....how long until we read a story on Fark about him being found dead?


In a ditch. Shot in the head. No weapon. No fingerprints.

/oh please oh please.
 
2013-07-06 04:33:36 PM  
Patent trolls are only a symptom of the real problem: granting too many junk patents.  Patents that are over broad, do not actually cover a new invention, are for an invention that has not been completed or proven.  Furthermore, the language on most patents is so vague, abstract and archaic that even a well educated engineer can read them and have no idea what the patent describes.  Fix the patent system and the trolls will disappear.  I would guess that fewer than 1% of patents should actually be granted.  Start by eliminating all software, design, business method, and electronics patents.  That alone will fix most of the problem.
 
2013-07-06 05:00:45 PM  
upon reading the headline, my first thought was "No way this guy has a more punchable face than Mitt Rmoney"...then I clicked on the link and I now stand corrected
 
2013-07-06 05:22:48 PM  
Robert Kearnes one of those d@mn patent trolls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kearns

Could he have succeeded in this day and age against a big corp?
 
2013-07-06 06:02:35 PM  

lilbjorn: NFA: This is exactly what corporations have been doing for nearly a century, sitting on patents and suing anyone who gets near the technology.

Well over a century.  See Singer Sewing Machine


See also: Wright Brothers
 
2013-07-06 06:11:00 PM  

xanadian: jesus, subby, you ain't kiddin'.


That face is barely 0.75 Cantors...

/"Cantors" is the unit of measurement for face-punchability, isn't it?
 
2013-07-06 06:47:48 PM  
Dammit.  I punched my monitor.
 
2013-07-06 06:58:38 PM  
Yes patent abuse is a scam.  But...

What's different from buying a patent compared to buying the rights to the Beatles or Stephen King?  The patents represent an idea that someone came up with.  That someone didn't have the means or ability to use it, so they sold it.  It's an investment for these companies.

What we really need to be going after isn't the companies, but the PTO that lets these things go through in the first place.  We need to get some legal reforms so every single tech case doesn't wind up in east (or is it west?) Texas for a pro-business judge to keep allowing stuff like this from happening.
 
2013-07-06 08:37:26 PM  

Astorix: OhioUGrad: So.....how long until we read a story on Fark about him being found dead?

In a ditch. Shot in the head. No weapon. No fingerprints.

/oh please oh please.


Bound hands and feet, tied to a chair, at the bottom of a pool......ruled a suicide.
 
2013-07-06 08:47:38 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: No mention was made of licensing patents.


Or copyright trolls.

/John Steele...far more punchable.
 
2013-07-06 09:01:04 PM  
Nah. I looked in the mirror this morning.
 
2013-07-07 12:43:47 AM  
If the first way he describes himself as "I'm ethical and moral," then I'm forced to conclude that he must spend a lot of time playing F.A.T.A.L (new window, language not safe for work, concept not safe for anyone).

And honestly, that would explain quite a lot.
 
2013-07-07 01:19:03 AM  

NewWorldDan: Patent trolls are only a symptom of the real problem: granting too many junk patents.  Patents that are over broad, do not actually cover a new invention, are for an invention that has not been completed or proven.  Furthermore, the language on most patents is so vague, abstract and archaic that even a well educated engineer can read them and have no idea what the patent describes.  Fix the patent system and the trolls will disappear.  I would guess that fewer than 1% of patents should actually be granted.  Start by eliminating all software, design, business method, and electronics patents.  That alone will fix most of the problem.


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2013-07-07 01:54:37 AM  

IlGreven: Or copyright trolls.

/John Steele...far more punchable.


You know, haven't heard as much out of him lately.  A few other members of his firms have been in court/news for a few things, but haven't seen a lot of updates on his various porn suits.
 
2013-07-07 05:05:54 AM  

enry: What's different from buying a patent compared to buying the rights to the Beatles or Stephen King? The patents represent an idea that someone came up with.  That someone didn't have the means or ability to use it, so they sold it.  It's an investment for these companies.


You know amazon owns the patent to a 1 click purchase?  You arent allowed to have your web cart set up so that customers can purchase items using only a single click on the items page.  Amazon will sue you.  You have to add extra clicks.

Even though Michael Jackson sung "Thriller", you're still allowed to use the word "thriller" in your songs.
 
2013-07-07 06:37:48 AM  

Alonjar: enry: What's different from buying a patent compared to buying the rights to the Beatles or Stephen King? The patents represent an idea that someone came up with.  That someone didn't have the means or ability to use it, so they sold it.  It's an investment for these companies.

You know amazon owns the patent to a 1 click purchase?  You arent allowed to have your web cart set up so that customers can purchase items using only a single click on the items page.  Amazon will sue you.  You have to add extra clicks.

Even though Michael Jackson sung "Thriller", you're still allowed to use the word "thriller" in your songs.


enry: What we really need to be going after isn't the companies, but the PTO that lets these things go through in the first place.

 
2013-07-07 06:59:01 AM  

Alonjar: enry: What's different from buying a patent compared to buying the rights to the Beatles or Stephen King? The patents represent an idea that someone came up with.  That someone didn't have the means or ability to use it, so they sold it.  It's an investment for these companies.

You know amazon owns the patent to a 1 click purchase?  You arent allowed to have your web cart set up so that customers can purchase items using only a single click on the items page.  Amazon will sue you.  You have to add extra clicks.

Even though Michael Jackson sung "Thriller", you're still allowed to use the word "thriller" in your songs.


what about "shamone"
 
2013-07-07 12:13:38 PM  
I invented punching people in the face.  Expect a cease & desist letter, Drew
 
2013-07-07 06:50:20 PM  
What if he's telling the truth and his company actually does defend patents for a fee?

Is there anything inherently wrong with that?
 
2013-07-07 07:23:01 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: lilbjorn: NFA: This is exactly what corporations have been doing for nearly a century, sitting on patents and suing anyone who gets near the technology.

Well over a century.  See Singer Sewing Machine

Right, it's always been like this so why fix it.

The big problem is that the rate of blatant scamming has been going up.  You have fake companies running under multiple shell companies trying to shake down businesses for using a photocopier.  You have businesses patenting vague stupid ideas.

You shouldn't be able to patent the idea of having a stapler sitting on your desk next to the tape dispenser, you shouldn't ...........


i18.photobucket.com

Why not?
 
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