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(TMZ)   The Black Keys are sponsoring a little league team. Fans of the team reportedly thought they played better before they sold out for a paycheck   (tmz.com) divider line 45
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2013-07-06 09:35:05 AM
I only found all their old stuff because the new stuff went big, and their new stuff is pretty damn good too.  No complaints.
 
2013-07-06 09:48:22 AM
They like to argue with little kids
 
2013-07-06 09:49:14 AM
They were good then and they good now.
 
2013-07-06 09:49:32 AM
And much like the band's music, every single game the team plays will be exactly the same.
 
2013-07-06 09:50:06 AM
I am going to see them and Flaming Lips next week.

Should be a good show, if it doesn't rain.
 
2013-07-06 09:52:30 AM
Damn that's awesome.
 
2013-07-06 10:02:42 AM

treecologist: I am going to see them and Flaming Lips next week.

Should be a good show, if it doesn't rain.


I can't really get into little league. It's like watching an airplane full of hopes and dreams crash into a field of abusive parenting flowers.
 
2013-07-06 10:59:59 AM
The who?

/exactly...
 
2013-07-06 11:06:25 AM

Scottybobotty: The who?

/exactly...


Not the Who, The Black Keys.  Silly.
 
2013-07-06 11:44:33 AM

treecologist: I am going to see them and Flaming Lips next week.

Should be a good show, if it doesn't rain.


That sounds awesome. Have fun!
 
2013-07-06 11:50:56 AM

Scottybobotty: The who?

/exactly...


Let me guess, your favorite band is someone we've never heard of..
 
2013-07-06 11:55:31 AM
I found out about the Black Keys when I bought a sampler from their record label.  I liked them up through thickfreakness, and then they started to change their sound too much.  They've gone from dirty blues to pop.
 
2013-07-06 11:57:03 AM

Scottybobotty: The who?

/exactly...


Black Eye Peas
 
2013-07-06 12:15:06 PM
LOL.

Hipster complaint.

Long time fan, saw them twice live last year.  Their new stuff is just as good as their old stuff.
 
2013-07-06 12:20:01 PM
Who?
 
2013-07-06 12:20:58 PM
It must be awful being a fan of something. You fall in love with something at a given moment in time and any deviation from that is a disappointment. I couldn't tell you a Black Keys releases from 2013 from 2003, but if I like it I like it.

I'm a fan of Bad Religion, and certainly like some albums over others, but I can't seem to garner any "disgust" when Truth North didn't sound exactly like Stranger than Fiction.
 
2013-07-06 12:23:26 PM
Good, we need more youth baseball
 
2013-07-06 12:35:53 PM
Got hooked when Person of Interest had "She's Long Gone" playing in the background. Been a fan ever since.

/New stuff, old stuff, it's all good stuff.
//Gold On the Ceiling is awesome.
///Lonely Boy has the best Guitar Riff in the entire history of Rock & Roll.
 
2013-07-06 12:52:35 PM
I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?
 
2013-07-06 01:02:22 PM

roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?


Most of the older Black Keys songs were only getting modest airplay (if any), and so the concept of "selling out" contains this theory: once a band/musician/artist gets that very first advertising check for selling, say, Lincoln cars, then that forms in their mind: hey, if I tinker with my sound a bit more, I can more easily sell some of my music to interested companies!  And, if I'm lucky, I can sell some of the stuff out of my back catalog, too!

This is a relatively new process, and it has happened in the last, say, twenty years.  A band will realize that their best chance for lasting fortune, with minimal effort, is to create a song that can be paired with a product.  That's why you have ubershiatty groups like Grouplove making tons of money: their shiatty song was in an Apple commercial, and it was catchy enough for people to buy it.  Now, Grouplove has tons of money and they have no need to create anything remotely related to aesthetics or art.  All they have to do is crank out another song with a catchy groove and sell it to a corporation.

In the case of The Black Keys, I have heard almost all of their albums, and I have to say their sound has changed dramatically.  Play thickfreakness and then El Camino, and they will sound worlds apart.  Their music is now geared toward public consumption.

\you won't hear them covering Junior Kimbrough on any of their new albums
\\they're too busy working with popular hip hop artists and producers
 
2013-07-06 01:03:04 PM
Never heard of them.
 
2013-07-06 01:09:08 PM

roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?


Some people will argue it's not the "same thing".

"...if it is art, it is not for all, and if it is for all, it is not art."  - Arnold Shoenberg
 
2013-07-06 01:25:47 PM

roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?


Not a tab-jack; a good question. Watch the movie, Absolute Beginners. It's fun to watch, and it does a good of explaining the concept of "selling out."

/Laters.
 
2013-07-06 01:26:25 PM

LoR75: LOL.

Hipster complaint.

Long time fan, saw them twice live last year.  Their new stuff is just as good as their old stuff.


Sure is.  It all sucks.
 
2013-07-06 01:26:26 PM

roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?


1. In the beginning there was punk, and punk said "you can do whatever you want and nobody can tell you what to do"
2. ??
3. Selling out is bad
 
2013-07-06 01:28:33 PM

roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?


It's not getting paid for what you do, it's getting paid to betray your convictions. Makes you dishonest and beholden to nothing but money. There are things people value more than money, and they have a problem with you if you don't.

If you started out making music in an underground niche genre, and you establish a loyal following, then you go pop-commercial to make money, that would be selling out, and your loyal following would reject you. If, however, you started out making pop-commercial schlock from the start and simply got more popular, then you never had any worth or integrity to begin with and your fans are superficial retards.

See, we need the people with soul, heart and passion to drive music forward into new innovations. If everyone went into the music business to make money, then all the music would sound the same. It's the underground the drives fads and trends, and rarely ever is its primary concern making money. Pop is not a genre insomuch as it is a process of watering down the essence of a genre's purity to the point where it is a tasteless paste of shallow pads and shiny melodies that can appeal to grandmothers and 8-year-olds alike.

If all you listen to is pop music, you're probably a very boring person to talk to.
 
2013-07-06 01:42:23 PM

Ishkur: roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?

It's not getting paid for what you do, it's getting paid to betray your convictions. Makes you dishonest and beholden to nothing but money. There are things people value more than money, and they have a problem with you if you don't.

If you started out making music in an underground niche genre, and you establish a loyal following, then you go pop-commercial to make money, that would be selling out, and your loyal following would reject you. If, however, you started out making pop-commercial schlock from the start and simply got more popular, then you never had any worth or integrity to begin with and your fans are superficial retards.

See, we need the people with soul, heart and passion to drive music forward into new innovations. If everyone went into the music business to make money, then all the music would sound the same. It's the underground the drives fads and trends, and rarely ever is its primary concern making money. Pop is not a genre insomuch as it is a process of watering down the essence of a genre's purity to the point where it is a tasteless paste of shallow pads and shiny melodies that can appeal to grandmothers and 8-year-olds alike.

If all you listen to is pop music, you're probably a very boring person to talk to.


What if someone starts with Electronica and the starts making Edm?
 
2013-07-06 01:49:58 PM

roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?


Selling out is something that nearly everyone does. Ask a room full of school kids what they want to be when they grow up, and none of them will say factory worker, or office drone, or any of those boring jobs that 99.9% of us actually end up doing for way too long. Selling out means trading your dreams, hopes, moral standards, and ambitions for a payday. Only a tiny percentage of all human beings can hold out long enough to become a professional athelete, or successful writer, or a popular muscian, or a world changing scientist. But, even most of the ones who made it to the top have sold out for money. Even the Beatles complained that early in their carreer they couldn't play the music that they really wanted to play, becuase the record company forced them to keep making the same kinds of pop that made the Beatles famous in the first place.

Selling out is when you trade little parts of your soul for money. Everyone claims the practice disgusts them, but nearly everyone does it. I think the hardest thing for any human being to do is to be true to themselves.

/Welcome to Earf.
 
2013-07-06 04:53:43 PM
send mail them their jerseys

All I know of this band is from the terribly corny episode of "No Reservations" when Anthony Bourdain is "abducted" by The Black Keys in their battered mini-van "of death and possible dismemberment".
 
2013-07-06 05:11:24 PM

LewDux: What if someone starts with Electronica and the starts making Edm?


Then they're a farking poseur, that's what.
 
2013-07-06 05:40:32 PM
People always go on about the Black Keys and I always wonder if the Black Keys is the first album they've ever been allowed to buy on their own that didn't have the words "Weird" "Al" and "Yankovic" on the title. Good for you, white college-age males of America, for straying out of your comfort zone of Radiohead, U2 and The Pixies.

Meanwhile, it always boggled me that they were signed to Nonesuch. Really? You have Philip Glass and then you have... The Black Keys?
 
2013-07-06 05:40:52 PM

Drew Hates Boobies: roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?

Selling out is something that nearly everyone does. Ask a room full of school kids what they want to be when they grow up, and none of them will say factory worker, or office drone, or any of those boring jobs that 99.9% of us actually end up doing for way too long. Selling out means trading your dreams, hopes, moral standards, and ambitions for a payday. Only a tiny percentage of all human beings can hold out long enough to become a professional athelete, or successful writer, or a popular muscian, or a world changing scientist. But, even most of the ones who made it to the top have sold out for money. Even the Beatles complained that early in their carreer they couldn't play the music that they really wanted to play, becuase the record company forced them to keep making the same kinds of pop that made the Beatles famous in the first place.

Selling out is when you trade little parts of your soul for money. Everyone claims the practice disgusts them, but nearly everyone does it. I think the hardest thing for any human being to do is to be true to themselves.

/Welcome to Earf.


I have (had) a friend who had that view.  He thought that everyone around him was a "sellout" because they did things like go to college, get jobs, and so on.  So, he's not a sellout: he lives in a piece of shiat house, works as a Wal-Mart night stocker, and writes poetry, which he then puts in a fire safe.  He's certain that when he dies, his poetry will be adored by millions.

\he did get married, though
\\and had a kid, who he can't stand
 
2013-07-06 07:15:54 PM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: People always go on about the Black Keys and I always wonder if the Black Keys is the first album they've ever been allowed to buy on their own that didn't have the words "Weird" "Al" and "Yankovic" on the title. Good for you, white college-age males of America, for straying out of your comfort zone of Radiohead, U2 and The Pixies.

Meanwhile, it always boggled me that they were signed to Nonesuch. Really? You have Philip Glass and then you have... The Black Keys?


Nonesuch also has David Byrne, Wilco, Dr. John, T-Bone Burnett, Joni Mitchell, and Randy Newman. So that's not too odd to also have The Black Keys as well. They have a bit of variety on their roster.
 
2013-07-06 09:00:10 PM
There's no selling out.

Only buying in.
 
2013-07-06 09:19:20 PM

Drew Hates Boobies: roc6783: I know this is a tab-jack, but can someone explain the whole idea of "selling out" to me? If someone pays me for doing something, then I get paid a whole lot more to do the same thing, why is that a bad thing, isn't that the point of doing anything that someone will pay you to do?

Selling out is something that nearly everyone does. Ask a room full of school kids what they want to be when they grow up, and none of them will say factory worker, or office drone, or any of those boring jobs that 99.9% of us actually end up doing for way too long. Selling out means trading your dreams, hopes, moral standards, and ambitions for a payday. Only a tiny percentage of all human beings can hold out long enough to become a professional athelete, or successful writer, or a popular muscian, or a world changing scientist. But, even most of the ones who made it to the top have sold out for money. Even the Beatles complained that early in their carreer they couldn't play the music that they really wanted to play, becuase the record company forced them to keep making the same kinds of pop that made the Beatles famous in the first place.

Selling out is when you trade little parts of your soul for money. Everyone claims the practice disgusts them, but nearly everyone does it. I think the hardest thing for any human being to do is to be true to themselves.

/Welcome to Earf.



Well put. Of course, those words will fall on deaf ears to music snobs. Jesus, every time a formerly underground act gets popular, those guys act like the band just raped their mother and burned the house down.

It's not a crime that a band decides they'd rather have a big tour bus instead of a van and nice hotel rooms instead of crashing on their friend's living room floor after a gig.

They were always in it for money. They saw they had talent at something they enjoyed and discovered they could do it on a professional level. Even during the "keeping it real" underground days, they were still taking a piece of the cover charges.

Nobody starts a band hoping they can play some dingy bar basement in front of 10 people, including staff. They dream of selling out Madison Square Garden.
 
2013-07-06 11:56:31 PM
Ever since they hired the female singer things just haven't been quite right.
 
2013-07-07 02:25:19 AM

Meatsim1: I only found all their old stuff because the new stuff went big, and their new stuff is pretty damn good too.  No complaints.


Same here. Attack and Release was how I found out about them. I went to their show at Merriweather Post Pavilion last summer and the two older songs they did alone were by far the highlight of the night.
 
2013-07-07 03:15:23 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Ever since they hired the female singer things just haven't been quite right.


And then their drummer farked up Taylor Swift 's Nobel Prize speech
 
2013-07-07 06:32:34 AM
Supposedly, the next album is a return to their roots. We'll see.
 
2013-07-07 08:42:58 AM
its funny when "stop liking what i don't like" becomes "stop liking what i liked first because now i cant like them anymore"
 
2013-07-07 11:04:33 AM

MightyPez: It must be awful being a fan of something. You fall in love with something at a given moment in time and any deviation from that is a disappointment. I couldn't tell you a Black Keys releases from 2013 from 2003, but if I like it I like it.

I'm a fan of Bad Religion, and certainly like some albums over others, but I can't seem to garner any "disgust" when Truth North didn't sound exactly like Stranger than Fiction.




I'll never forgive DJ Jazzy Jeff.
 
2013-07-07 01:11:49 PM
While this is good, these "jerseys" are just T-shirts.  I had better jerseys when I was in little league oh so many years ago.
 
2013-07-07 01:27:54 PM

mjbok: While this is good, these "jerseys" are just T-shirts.  I had better jerseys when I was in little league oh so many years ago.




You sound spoiled. We had crappy t-shirts. Until majors.
 
2013-07-07 04:23:43 PM

StoPPeRmobile: mjbok: While this is good, these "jerseys" are just T-shirts.  I had better jerseys when I was in little league oh so many years ago.

You sound spoiled. We had crappy t-shirts. Until majors.


It was only for one year (and we used them the next, and the next...), but they were the real deal.  Button up, pants, stirrups, we looked like a real team.  It was sponsored, the league sure as hell didn't pay for them.
 
2013-07-07 08:39:48 PM

mjbok: StoPPeRmobile: mjbok: While this is good, these "jerseys" are just T-shirts.  I had better jerseys when I was in little league oh so many years ago.

You sound spoiled. We had crappy t-shirts. Until majors.

It was only for one year (and we used them the next, and the next...), but they were the real deal.  Button up, pants, stirrups, we looked like a real team.  It was sponsored, the league sure as hell didn't pay for them.




I hear you.

/kinda glad i went through it
 
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