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(Salon)   Noted political wizard Ted Nugent lays out his list of 5 groups who should not be able to vote. Before you snicker, wait until you see the asploding heads of farkers upset that they agree with three of them   (salon.com) divider line 298
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2013-07-06 11:54:59 AM  

Lando Lincoln: 1) Corporations
2) People under 18

And that's it. That's the only people (or "people") that should not be allowed to vote.


FTFM.

Simple:  Anyone under 18 may take a competency test that's similar to the civics quiz immigrants take to become naturalized. If they pass, they gain the right to vote.  You automatically gain it when you turn 18, as normal, but if a kid is competent, they can vote.
 
2013-07-06 11:55:20 AM  
Salon.com suuuuuuuuuuuucks
 
2013-07-06 11:57:48 AM  
Nuget, eh? Isn't he dead or in jail or something?
 
2013-07-06 11:57:48 AM  

hubiestubert: Lando Lincoln: 1) Corporations
2) People under 18

And that's it. That's the only people (or "people") that should not be allowed to vote.

It seems many Republicans want to go back to a day where only white wealthy land owners have a right to vote.

I'm 3/4 white, does that nullify my vote, or is my Nihonjin side pale enough?

As for Smitty, you do realize that the list was an extrapolation of the welfare motif and not something that Nugetnt meant, right?  He is far less aware than the headline gave him credit for.  It might also be good to add farmers to the list, and agribusiness in general, since the subsidies that they receive pretty much keep the industry floating in cash. As well as teachers and every public university as well...


3/4 is not even close to passing the purity laws of the past. You would be classified as a non-Voter.
 
2013-07-06 12:00:31 PM  

Mawson of the Antarctic: The main gripe I have with the Tea Party is that Powdered Wigs are cool, I would totally rock one, but everyone will think I'm a Teaheadist now. Damn them.


Bastards ruined Gadsden flags and tricorne hats, too.
 
2013-07-06 12:00:36 PM  
At least both sides can agree they are naive enough to believe their vote counts.
 
2013-07-06 12:02:13 PM  
makers vs takers huh

ok
so anyone that actually produces something whether it be food, logs, ore, or a bike would be makers

anyone that produces nothing for thier pay which would be politicians, cops, teachers, would be takers
 
2013-07-06 12:03:53 PM  

bindlestiff2600: makers vs takers huh

ok
so anyone that actually produces something whether it be food, logs, ore, or a bike would be makers

anyone that produces nothing for thier pay which would be politicians, cops, teachers, would be takers


You think that Teachers do nothing productive for their pay? Or even cops?
 
2013-07-06 12:04:14 PM  
6. Illiterates, like Subby.
 
2013-07-06 12:04:27 PM  
So basically anyone who might potentially benefit from government should be excluded from participating in government?

It makes as much sense as anything else Nugent says.
 
2013-07-06 12:05:44 PM  

bindlestiff2600: makers vs takers huh

ok
so anyone that actually produces something whether it be food, logs, ore, or a bike would be makers

anyone that produces nothing for thier pay which would be politicians, cops, teachers, would be takers


Given that those "makers" would be out of business without the "takers" paying for their stuff you might want to think your plan though a bit more.
 
2013-07-06 12:07:51 PM  
Nugent's words:  Let's also stop the insanity by suspending the right to vote of any American who is on welfare. Once they get off welfare and are self-sustaining, they get their right to vote restored. No American on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those Americans who are working and paying taxes to support them. That's insane.

So, dickless here is advocating for completely disenfranchising the poor.

Can we please, please, please stop posting the nonsense of a pedophile, pants-shiatting draft dodger?
 
2013-07-06 12:09:16 PM  
Actually I agree with Nugent, on two conditions:

1. No one, NO ONE, can be turned down for Welfare. Young, old, male, female, able-bodied, disabled, you want to be on the public teat, you got it, for as long as you want it, no strings attached (except see below),
2. You have to go to school. Eight hours a day, five days a week, fifty weeks a year. I don't care what you study, it can be Basketweaving or Chemistry of Meth Making, but you have to be in school.

At any time an individual may withdraw from Welfare, for a minimum of one year, at which point his voting rights will be restored. However, I believe that Item 2 will permanently clear the welfare rolls of people over 30 within ten years.
 
2013-07-06 12:09:35 PM  
Are they American citizens?

Yes?

Then farking LET THEM VOTE.
 
2013-07-06 12:09:36 PM  
Same list of designated non-voters as ever Republicans have wanted.

1) Negroes
2) American Indians and Mexicans
3) Italians and Chinese
4) Women
5) Children

Seems legit.
 
2013-07-06 12:10:14 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: So, dickless here is advocating for completely disenfranchising the poor.


I wonder if he thinks they should take their guns away too.
 
2013-07-06 12:10:47 PM  

Lando Lincoln: 1) Corporations
2) People under 18

And that's it. That's the only people (or "people") that should not be allowed to vote.


A bit fat THIS.
 
2013-07-06 12:11:04 PM  
I agree with TN.  Active duty military accepting welfare should not be allowed to vote.
 
2013-07-06 12:11:13 PM  
I don't think any of those groups he lists should be prevented from voting.

Lionel Mandrake: 1. Ted Nugent
2. Ted Nugent's family
3. People who like Ted Nugent
4. The families of people who like Ted Nugent
5. Ted Nugent


There's a list I can support, though.
 
2013-07-06 12:12:18 PM  

Speaker2Animals: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Let's also point you, like subby, fails at reading comprehension.


This is what Ted Nugent said:

"Let's also stop the insanity by suspending the right to vote of any American who is on welfare. Once they get off welfare and are self-sustaining, they get their right to vote restored. No American on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those Americans who are working and paying taxes to support them. That's insane."

The article is taking what he said to the logical conclusion.
 
2013-07-06 12:13:09 PM  

Delay: Same list of designated non-voters as ever Republicans have wanted.

1) Negroes
2) American Indians and Mexicans
3) Italians and Chinese
4) Women
5) Children

Seems legit.


You do realize that the Republican party was the driving factor for universal suffrage, do you not?

Republicans have never been the party that denies women the vote.
 
2013-07-06 12:18:18 PM  

Therion: Mawson of the Antarctic: The main gripe I have with the Tea Party is that Powdered Wigs are cool, I would totally rock one, but everyone will think I'm a Teaheadist now. Damn them.

Bastards ruined Gadsden flags and tricorne hats, too.


I thought they made the flag even better

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2013-07-06 12:18:33 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: 27 comments in and I don't see any "heads asploding," subs. Maybe you misread us or the article?


Also could be this is old news from December of 2012.
 
2013-07-06 12:18:34 PM  

Fart_Machine: SN1987a goes boom: So, dickless here is advocating for completely disenfranchising the poor.

I wonder if he thinks they should take their guns away too.


Came here to say that.

What's his take on their right to bear arms? I'm sure he's fine with that right.
 
2013-07-06 12:19:10 PM  

clambam: Actually I agree with Nugent, on two conditions:

1. No one, NO ONE, can be turned down for Welfare. Young, old, male, female, able-bodied, disabled, you want to be on the public teat, you got it, for as long as you want it, no strings attached (except see below),
2. You have to go to school. Eight hours a day, five days a week, fifty weeks a year. I don't care what you study, it can be Basketweaving or Chemistry of Meth Making, but you have to be in school.

At any time an individual may withdraw from Welfare, for a minimum of one year, at which point his voting rights will be restored. However, I believe that Item 2 will permanently clear the welfare rolls of people over 30 within ten years.


I disagree with your second point. There is already a problem of people going to school and not finding employment upon graduating.  A massive glut of people suddenly going to school *may* make the situation worse, not to mention the headaches of trying to fund these people going to school. I would suggest re-enstating the Civilian Conservation Corps to rebuild and update our infrastructure.
 
2013-07-06 12:19:33 PM  

cman: bindlestiff2600: makers vs takers huh

ok
so anyone that actually produces something whether it be food, logs, ore, or a bike would be makers

anyone that produces nothing for thier pay which would be politicians, cops, teachers, would be takers

You think that Teachers do nothing productive for their pay? Or even cops?



you may want what they do
but you cant eat it wear it or take it home with you
they produce nothing
you might want thier service but a hooker provides service too
thats not a product
cops might reduce loss of a product so they might claim a share of that
teachers might (sometimes somewhere) train people to be able to be productive (but ill leave it open how often that happens)
thats not a product either
side issue   how many non productive people (cops, teachers, hair-dressers, politicians, et al ) can be supported by those who produce something
 
2013-07-06 12:19:45 PM  
 Subby forgot to take into consideration that "the nuge" is a flaming hypocrite. They're assuming that he applies that standard to everyone. He doesn't. He's thinking about poor people who need assistance. When it comes to the other groups mentioned in the article he would simply throw up a wall of word salad nonsense while insisting that giving money to corporations, churches, and  "real merican institutions" is completely different.  I knew there was something wrong when the headline implied that Ted was giving a nuanced thought out multidimensional argument.
 
2013-07-06 12:22:36 PM  
The Amboy Dukes was a pretty good band.
 
2013-07-06 12:22:44 PM  

cman: Delay: Same list of designated non-voters as ever Republicans have wanted.

1) Negroes
2) American Indians and Mexicans
3) Italians and Chinese
4) Women
5) Children

Seems legit.

You do realize that the Republican party was the driving factor for universal suffrage, do you not?

Republicans have never been the party that denies women the vote.


Ahhh....good to see you're back to being a shill.
 
2013-07-06 12:23:20 PM  
St. Jude's Hospital system:  currently treating thousands of kids with cancer

Ted Nugent:  breathing, alive and not suffering horribly:  does not have cancer.

And no one will ever be able to convince me there is a God.

This guy is literally a pants-shiatting coward, so it's no wonder he's a revered hero of the Right.  You know, cause he pisses off the libs.
 
2013-07-06 12:23:50 PM  

cman: Delay: Same list of designated non-voters as ever Republicans have wanted.

1) Negroes
2) American Indians and Mexicans
3) Italians and Chinese
4) Women
5) Children

Seems legit.

You do realize that the Republican party was the driving factor for universal suffrage, do you not?

Republicans have never been the party that denies women the vote.


Why is it when you guys want to defend yourselves from charges of racism and sexism you have to dig back a hundred years or more to find something worth bragging about? "Sure we want to rape you with a plastic dildo if you dare to ask for an abortion, but look how awesome we were in 1919! And, yeah, of course we want to disenfranchise blacks and Latinos now, but wasn't what we did in 1865 totally awesome? Where's your sense of gratitude?" In point of fact the repub Party has done nothing of value to the country since Teddy Roosevelt's day. At best caretaker repub presidents like Eisenhower or Bush I didn't make things worse. Go away. No one will miss you.
 
2013-07-06 12:29:40 PM  
Nobody on welfare should vote?  So nobody who collects Social Security or makes use of Medicare?

Well, there goes the GOP...
 
2013-07-06 12:30:43 PM  
I noticed that loud mouthed has-beens with guitars are not on the list. A coincidence, I'm sure.
 
2013-07-06 12:30:56 PM  

shamanwest: Ahhh....good to see you're back to being a shill.


... back?
 
2013-07-06 12:31:25 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: There was a great photo from a teabagger rally at the PA Capitol building -- a guy dressed as a Hessian mercenary soldier and carrying a "Taxation Without Representation" sign talking...to his elected State Senator.

It could be the official poster for the Festival of Cognitive Dissonance



I'm not surprised. My guess is he's just a reenactor.

I took my kids to this one annual local event a few times when they were younger, and noticed a couple things --

For someone with no family connection to the Revolutionary War, and German immigrant roots, joining a Hessian group is an attractive proposition. (I'd seriously consider joining it myself if I was looking for exactly one hobby that would monopolize every minute of my free time. It looks like a lot of fun in a demanding sort of way.)

And the 'hobby politics' was very strong with everyone I talked to in a really bizarre fashion that I hadn't noticed when my dad took me to the same events 35 years earlier. Back then, all the reenactors were simply history buffs, many of whom enjoyed making and firing the really cool replica muzzle-loaders among other things. The guns were tools. Today, many of the reenactors I spoke with were almost cultishly devoted to their guns, viewing their weapons as quite literally sacred objects. Reenacting wasn't so much a celebration of the birth of our nation and all of our freedoms as it was a celebration of gun rights ... at least to the subset of reenactors who saw fit to walk up to me and volunteer their opinions about guns.
 
2013-07-06 12:33:45 PM  

shamanwest: cman: Delay: Same list of designated non-voters as ever Republicans have wanted.

1) Negroes
2) American Indians and Mexicans
3) Italians and Chinese
4) Women
5) Children

Seems legit.

You do realize that the Republican party was the driving factor for universal suffrage, do you not?

Republicans have never been the party that denies women the vote.

Ahhh....good to see you're back to being a shill.


Are you serious?

You cherry-picked what I said to fit your preconceived notions.

I was saying that the GOP has NEVER been anti-women voting. Look at the full context of my post. You only cared about my first statement.
 
2013-07-06 12:33:50 PM  
Does the list include draft-dodging chickenhawk p*ssies like Ted Nugent?
 
2013-07-06 12:34:41 PM  

cman: Delay: Same list of designated non-voters as ever Republicans have wanted.

1) Negroes
2) American Indians and Mexicans
3) Italians and Chinese
4) Women
5) Children

Seems legit.

You do realize that the Republican party was the driving factor for universal suffrage, do you not?

Republicans have never been the party that denies women the vote.


Republicans of 100-ish years ago  =\=  Republicans today.
 
2013-07-06 12:37:09 PM  

clambam: cman: Delay: Same list of designated non-voters as ever Republicans have wanted.

1) Negroes
2) American Indians and Mexicans
3) Italians and Chinese
4) Women
5) Children

Seems legit.

You do realize that the Republican party was the driving factor for universal suffrage, do you not?

Republicans have never been the party that denies women the vote.

Why is it when you guys want to defend yourselves from charges of racism and sexism you have to dig back a hundred years or more to find something worth bragging about? "Sure we want to rape you with a plastic dildo if you dare to ask for an abortion, but look how awesome we were in 1919! And, yeah, of course we want to disenfranchise blacks and Latinos now, but wasn't what we did in 1865 totally awesome? Where's your sense of gratitude?" In point of fact the repub Party has done nothing of value to the country since Teddy Roosevelt's day. At best caretaker repub presidents like Eisenhower or Bush I didn't make things worse. Go away. No one will miss you.


I would say that Bush 1 is the only modern Republican who hasn't totally wrecked the country. Eisenhower was a democrat recruited by the GOP to give political life support to Nixon.
 
2013-07-06 12:37:09 PM  

toastmonkey42: I disagree with your second point. There is already a problem of people going to school and not finding employment upon graduating.  A massive glut of people suddenly going to school *may* make the situation worse, not to mention the headaches of trying to fund these people going to school. I would suggest re-enstating the Civilian Conservation Corps to rebuild and update our infrastructure.


There's a bigger problem of people dropping out of high school and not being able to do anything about it years later when they realize what a huge mistake they've made. Let's get some 20-somethings their GEDs and maybe two years of community college and then we'll worry about overqualified philosophy majors.
 
2013-07-06 12:39:42 PM  

cman: Are you serious?


You have to earn the right to ask this question without receiving immediate peals of laughter, Mr. I Slept Through the Southern Strategy Section of the Color-My-Lunch Menu at Cracker Barrel.
 
2013-07-06 12:41:10 PM  

dericwater: I would say that Bush 1 is the only modern Republican who hasn't totally wrecked the country. Eisenhower was a democrat recruited by the GOP to give political life support to Nixon.


Stop it.
 
2013-07-06 12:43:31 PM  
>> lays out his list of 5 groups who should not be able to vote

One more......

#6 - Submitters who do not read and comprehend the article and instead focus on the shiny, pretty numbers in a list.
 
2013-07-06 12:43:44 PM  

thamike: cman: Are you serious?

You have to earn the right to ask this question without receiving immediate peals of laughter, Mr. I Slept Through the Southern Strategy Section of the Color-My-Lunch Menu at Cracker Barrel.


The Southern Strategy does not exist to anyone on the right these days.  It never happened. The GOP has always been the party of freedom.  Always.

We have always been at war blah blah blah...
 
2013-07-06 12:44:23 PM  

thamike: cman: Are you serious?

You have to earn the right to ask this question without receiving immediate peals of laughter, Mr. I Slept Through the Southern Strategy Section of the Color-My-Lunch Menu at Cracker Barrel.


Nice deflection. NHL might call you.
 
2013-07-06 12:45:01 PM  

cman: thamike: cman: Are you serious?

You have to earn the right to ask this question without receiving immediate peals of laughter, Mr. I Slept Through the Southern Strategy Section of the Color-My-Lunch Menu at Cracker Barrel.

Nice deflection. NHL might call you.


Ok.
 
2013-07-06 12:45:53 PM  

cman: Nice deflection.


Lame projection.
 
2013-07-06 12:46:56 PM  

Peki: grokca: You don't get a say until you have cum into a womb.

Still doesn't, even then. Not his womb.

/if you have a good relationship, then the woman should seek your advice and opinion. But that's a courtesy. Not a requirement.


Yup. This conversation is literally between a woman and her doctor. Only she decides who else to let in.
 
2013-07-06 12:47:04 PM  
Why are people surprised to find that Tea Tards believe this? In the run up to the 2012 election there were plenty of prominent Tea Tards saying that only property and business owners should be allowed to vote because they are the only ones who have a stake in the community.
 
2013-07-06 12:47:44 PM  

Mangoose: man who wants an abortion


Should probably have just kept it in his pants.
 
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