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(Salon)   Noted political wizard Ted Nugent lays out his list of 5 groups who should not be able to vote. Before you snicker, wait until you see the asploding heads of farkers upset that they agree with three of them   (salon.com) divider line 299
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2013-07-06 08:06:48 AM
1) Corporations
2) People under 18

And that's it. That's the only people (or "people") that should not be allowed to vote.

It seems many Republicans want to go back to a day where only white wealthy land owners have a right to vote.
 
2013-07-06 08:13:54 AM

Lando Lincoln: 1) Corporations
2) People under 18

And that's it. That's the only people (or "people") that should not be allowed to vote.

It seems many Republicans want to go back to a day where only white wealthy land owners have a right to vote.


I'm 3/4 white, does that nullify my vote, or is my Nihonjin side pale enough?

As for Smitty, you do realize that the list was an extrapolation of the welfare motif and not something that Nugetnt meant, right?  He is far less aware than the headline gave him credit for.  It might also be good to add farmers to the list, and agribusiness in general, since the subsidies that they receive pretty much keep the industry floating in cash. As well as teachers and every public university as well...
 
2013-07-06 08:16:33 AM
Subby fails at reading comprehension. The list isn't from Nugent.
 
2013-07-06 08:18:14 AM
How about we stop with this bullshiat anti-freedom, anti-democracy, pro-aristocracy nonsense of trying to revoke people's right to vote?
 
2013-07-06 08:20:22 AM
I will respectfully listen to Ted Nugent when he opines on the most effective methods to get an overweight fortysomething Flying J waitress to give one a mediocre, disinterested handy in the back of a carbon-monoxide-leaking tour bus.

Other than that? STFU
 
2013-07-06 08:20:38 AM
Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.
 
2013-07-06 08:23:24 AM

Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.


Why let a little thing like the raison d'être for their movement get in the way of a gut level reaction from a pants befouling chickenhawk?
 
2013-07-06 08:27:04 AM

hubiestubert: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Why let a little thing like the raison d'être for their movement get in the way of a gut level reaction from a pants befouling chickenhawk?


Based on the conversations I've had, most of them seem to understand taxation without representation to mean they are entitled to have legislators with whom they agree.
 
2013-07-06 08:27:37 AM

Dinki: Subby fails at reading comprehension. The list isn't from Nugent.


Yup. The list is sarcasm/satire.
 
2013-07-06 08:33:23 AM

Aarontology: hubiestubert: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Why let a little thing like the raison d'être for their movement get in the way of a gut level reaction from a pants befouling chickenhawk?

Based on the conversations I've had, most of them seem to understand taxation without representation to mean they are entitled to have legislators with whom they agree.


The TEA Party has always been about Astroturf, and gulling the witless to get excited about races, and throw money at people who pretty much have zero interest in actually doing much other than play corporate money lapdog, and call it folksy and inspired. It is impossible to call a movement "grassroots" when it has an entire news network's support. It is a convenient dodge for folks to bring up the most odious and reactionary policies up, without sullying your hands with them directly, and instead get to use the "some people think that..." argument to push and pull folks into discussing tripe as if it were serious and thought out. Well, to be fair, some of it is well thought out, just not by the folks who hold the signs and cheer wildly to be fleeced...
 
2013-07-06 08:38:59 AM

hubiestubert: The TEA Party has always been about Astroturf, and gulling the witless to get excited about races, and throw money at people who pretty much have zero interest in actually doing much other than play corporate money lapdog, and call it folksy and inspired. It is impossible to call a movement "grassroots" when it has an entire news network's support. It is a convenient dodge for folks to bring up the most odious and reactionary policies up, without sullying your hands with them directly, and instead get to use the "some people think that..." argument to push and pull folks into discussing tripe as if it were serious and thought out. Well, to be fair, some of it is well thought out, just not by the folks who hold the signs and cheer wildly to be fleeced...


Well said.

I will say this though: At least they've stopped trying to pretend that it's a movement made up of people from all political beliefs, social, cultural, religious backgrounds. They seem to have settled well into their role of extreme right social conservatives who advocate centralization of economic and political control into the hands of a wealthy oligarchy.
 
2013-07-06 08:40:56 AM
Headline brought to you by:

menofmind.com
 
2013-07-06 08:42:28 AM

Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.


I guess his line of thinking is that welfare recipients aren't people, so why should they have the right to vote?
 
2013-07-06 08:44:36 AM

Lando Lincoln: I guess his line of thinking is that welfare recipients aren't people, so why should they have the right to vote?


I'd be willing to bet that even if his plan were implemented, he and the politicians who support it would fight tooth and nail in order to prevent people from having their rights restored too.
 
2013-07-06 08:54:36 AM

Aarontology: hubiestubert: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Why let a little thing like the raison d'être for their movement get in the way of a gut level reaction from a pants befouling chickenhawk?

Based on the conversations I've had, most of them seem to understand taxation without representation to mean they are entitled to have legislators with whom they agree.


There was a great photo from a teabagger rally at the PA Capitol building -- a guy dressed as a Hessian mercenary soldier and carrying a "Taxation Without Representation" sign talking...to his elected State Senator.

It could be the official poster for the Festival of Cognitive Dissonance
 
2013-07-06 08:56:02 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: There was a great photo from a teabagger rally at the PA Capitol building -- a guy dressed as a Hessian mercenary soldier and carrying a "Taxation Without Representation" sign talking...to his elected State Senator.


A Hessian? Seriously? hahahahahahha
 
2013-07-06 09:03:39 AM

Aarontology: Mr. Coffee Nerves: There was a great photo from a teabagger rally at the PA Capitol building -- a guy dressed as a Hessian mercenary soldier and carrying a "Taxation Without Representation" sign talking...to his elected State Senator.

A Hessian? Seriously? hahahahahahha


Say what you will about the mercenary ways of Hessian soldiers, dude, but at least it was an ethos.
 
2013-07-06 09:05:06 AM
Men, if the issue is abortion.

Everything else is fair game.
 
2013-07-06 09:11:35 AM

Peki: Men, if the issue is abortion.

Everything else is fair game.


I came out of a womb, so I feel like I have a say in the matter.
 
2013-07-06 09:20:59 AM

Aarontology: Mr. Coffee Nerves: There was a great photo from a teabagger rally at the PA Capitol building -- a guy dressed as a Hessian mercenary soldier and carrying a "Taxation Without Representation" sign talking...to his elected State Senator.

A Hessian? Seriously? hahahahahahha


I'm hoping it was a case of "everyone shows up in blue coats, so I'll look sharp in this green one" but I suspect it may have been "Well, I already fap to 'Soldier of Fortune,' so..."
 
2013-07-06 09:22:01 AM

Lando Lincoln: I came out of a womb, so I feel like I have a say in the matter.


The womb wasn't yours. Feel lucky, not entitled.
 
2013-07-06 09:23:11 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Aarontology: Mr. Coffee Nerves: There was a great photo from a teabagger rally at the PA Capitol building -- a guy dressed as a Hessian mercenary soldier and carrying a "Taxation Without Representation" sign talking...to his elected State Senator.

A Hessian? Seriously? hahahahahahha

I'm hoping it was a case of "everyone shows up in blue coats, so I'll look sharp in this green one" but I suspect it may have been "Well, I already fap to 'Soldier of Fortune,' so..."


Well, you are talking about the movement that gave us this gem:

policygrinder.com

So I doubt many of them passed civics.
 
2013-07-06 09:24:21 AM

jake_lex: So I doubt many of them passed civics.


Or elementary school English.

/what's the highest form of patriotic? poster, I'm looking at you
 
2013-07-06 09:25:40 AM

Lando Lincoln: Peki: Men, if the issue is abortion.

Everything else is fair game.

I came out of a womb, so I feel like I have a say in the matter.


You don't get a say until you have cum into a womb.
 
2013-07-06 09:26:46 AM

grokca: You don't get a say until you have cum into a womb.


Still doesn't, even then. Not his womb.

/if you have a good relationship, then the woman should seek your advice and opinion. But that's a courtesy. Not a requirement.
 
2013-07-06 09:39:59 AM
I think it was Boss Tweed that said "I don't care who does the voting, as long as I get to do the nominating."
 
2013-07-06 09:44:01 AM
If we banned everyone who voted in their own sense of self-interest from voting, then no one should be left allowed to vote.

Peki: But that's a courtesy. Not a requirement.


Provided that a man who wants an abortion doesn't have to pay for care of a woman and child that only the woman wants. I mean he could. But that should be a courtesy, not a requirement.

Your body, your baby, your problem.
 
2013-07-06 09:50:28 AM
27 comments in and I don't see any "heads asploding," subs. Maybe you misread us or the article?
 
2013-07-06 10:00:00 AM
Nugent's a dumbass, and so are a lot of US citizens, but they should all still get to vote
 
2013-07-06 10:10:43 AM

Lando Lincoln: It seems many Republicans want to go back to a day where only white wealthy male land owners have a right to vote.


FIFY. It seems like they want the 15th, 19th and 26th amendments to go away.
 
2013-07-06 10:30:30 AM

Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.


Let's also point you, like subby, fails at reading comprehension.
 
2013-07-06 10:38:52 AM

Speaker2Animals: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Let's also point you, like subby, fails at reading comprehension.


As long as these people he's biatching about are paying one penny in taxes, whether it's from sales, gas, property, income, Social Security, Medicare, or any of the other myriad taxes and fees that are imposed by governments, the revocation of their right to vote puts them under a system of taxation without representation.
 
2013-07-06 10:43:06 AM
Please please, pretty please, Ted run for President. I have lots of popcorn.
 
2013-07-06 10:46:57 AM
Why isn't that asshole dead yet?
 
2013-07-06 10:55:42 AM

Aarontology: Mr. Coffee Nerves: There was a great photo from a teabagger rally at the PA Capitol building -- a guy dressed as a Hessian mercenary soldier and carrying a "Taxation Without Representation" sign talking...to his elected State Senator.

A Hessian? Seriously? hahahahahahha


Yep.  This guy:

farm4.staticflickr.com

media3.washingtonpost.com

I'm guessing he was trying to be one of Vermont's Green Mountain Rangers, but they don't have the red trim on the button seams down the middle of the jacket, just the collar and cuffs.

www.srcalifornia.com

The German Field Jäger Corps of Hesse-Cassel, employed as mercenaries by the British Crown, 1776-1783:

img.fark.net
 
2013-07-06 10:57:35 AM

Aarontology: Speaker2Animals: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Let's also point you, like subby, fails at reading comprehension.

As long as these people he's biatching about are paying one penny in taxes, whether it's from sales, gas, property, income, Social Security, Medicare, or any of the other myriad taxes and fees that are imposed by governments, the revocation of their right to vote puts them under a system of taxation without representation.


He had nothing to do with that list of five groups. It's called "satire." Read again.
 
2013-07-06 11:02:43 AM

Speaker2Animals: He had nothing to do with that list of five groups. It's called "satire." Read again.


I'm referring to the things Nugent actually said, not the list.

While the people he talks about are on the path to self sufficiency that he wants, they'll be unable to vote, while being forced to pay taxes. Ergo, a system of taxation without representation.

Unless he wishes to exempt them from any and all taxation during the period, but I'm going to guess he doesn't.
 
2013-07-06 11:10:44 AM

Sgt Otter: Yep. This guy:


I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by the staggering ignorance of history.
 
2013-07-06 11:24:06 AM
So basically, only the rich, the renting class, and the welfare families will be allowed to vote?
 
2013-07-06 11:27:07 AM
1. Ted Nugent
2. Ted Nugent's family
3. People who like Ted Nugent
4. The families of people who like Ted Nugent
5. Ted Nugent
 
2013-07-06 11:33:00 AM
Cat-scratch fever

(don-dan-DEN)
 
2013-07-06 11:34:25 AM

Speaker2Animals: Aarontology: Speaker2Animals: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Let's also point you, like subby, fails at reading comprehension.

As long as these people he's biatching about are paying one penny in taxes, whether it's from sales, gas, property, income, Social Security, Medicare, or any of the other myriad taxes and fees that are imposed by governments, the revocation of their right to vote puts them under a system of taxation without representation.

He had nothing to do with that list of five groups. It's called "satire." Read again.




Ah, we're going with the "A right-winger got caught saying something racist, sexist, homophobic, or just plain stupid, so let's say it's 'satire' the libs don't get" defense here.
 
2013-07-06 11:36:47 AM

Mangoose: If we banned everyone who voted in their own sense of self-interest from voting, then no one should be left allowed to vote.

Peki: But that's a courtesy. Not a requirement.

Provided that a man who wants an abortion doesn't have to pay for care of a woman and child that only the woman wants. I mean he could. But that should be a courtesy, not a requirement.

Your body, your baby, your problem.


This may surprise you, but if I'm pregnant, and decide to keep the kid, and you give up all parental rights, yeah, I'm okay with not making the guy pay child support for it.

/however, just like a girl shouldn't get drunk at a party by herself, a guy ought to always keep things under wraps, so to speak. Don't let yourself get into the situation in the first place.
 
2013-07-06 11:46:00 AM
How about we just stop pretending that Ted Nugent is relevant.
 
2013-07-06 11:48:20 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Why isn't that asshole dead yet?


Or in prison like he promised.
 
2013-07-06 11:50:05 AM
i1284.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-06 11:52:35 AM

Fart_Machine: How about we just stop pretending that Ted Nugent is relevant.


In the world of politics of course

But one cannot deny his relevancy in the history of music
 
2013-07-06 11:52:50 AM
The main gripe I have with the Tea Party is that Powdered Wigs are cool, I would totally rock one, but everyone will think I'm a Teaheadist now. Damn them.
 
2013-07-06 11:53:33 AM
Can we get some of the "small government conservatives" from the "founding fathers quotes" thread to come in here saying how this guy, or Sarah Palin, or Rick Perry, or Rick Santorum, or Ted Cruz...don't represent them?

Don't like big government political parties that are designed to keep the ignorant motivated and the wealthy in power?  Too bad, you're in one.
 
2013-07-06 11:53:40 AM

jake_lex: Speaker2Animals: Aarontology: Speaker2Animals: Aarontology: Also, let's point out that tea party darling Ted Nugent is literally advocating taxation without representation.

Let's also point you, like subby, fails at reading comprehension.

As long as these people he's biatching about are paying one penny in taxes, whether it's from sales, gas, property, income, Social Security, Medicare, or any of the other myriad taxes and fees that are imposed by governments, the revocation of their right to vote puts them under a system of taxation without representation.

He had nothing to do with that list of five groups. It's called "satire." Read again.

Ah, we're going with the "A right-winger got caught saying something racist, sexist, homophobic, or just plain stupid, so let's say it's 'satire' the libs don't get" defense here.


No we're going with the "Nugent said people on welfare shouldn't be allowed to vote, and the author of the column satirically extrapolated that out to 5 other groups" statement .
 
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