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(AP)   GI's scoff at paltry $10,000 re-enlistment bonus. Typical response: "Man, they can't pay me enough to stay here"   (story.news.yahoo.com) divider line 183
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2004-01-07 06:25:53 PM  
for three years of getting shot at they are going to have to do better than that.


Cheap labor Republicans........

if you are a normal Republican , the sane conservative kind I do not blame you.... but Damn get control of your ploitical party back from the bozos who are calling the shots already and don't conserve anything not going directly into thier pocket.
 
2004-01-07 06:45:32 PM  
With the stop-loss orders, a lot of these guys won't really have a choice.
 
2004-01-07 07:06:24 PM  
I hope this starts a trend at the reservist level. Those poor folk are being called to do the same duty yet receive less pay than enlistees. If the reservists get pissed off it could have some good benefits:
1. Fewer reservists, necessitating more consideration of manpower before waging selective wars.
2. With all the reservists who have been called up, and their families, and other reservists who have lived in fear of being called, we have lot of people who may decide to turn their vote to a pro-peace candidate next year.
 
2004-01-07 07:31:06 PM  
Clearly you've overlooked option 3 Eat More Possum.

3. The military industrial complex succeeds in the creation of super soldiers.
 
2004-01-07 08:24:44 PM  
$10,000?

So you CAN put a price on life....
 
2004-01-07 08:48:18 PM  
Well, that's American lives we are talking about Cheshire. I think dead Iraqi children are a little cheaper.
 
2004-01-07 10:31:39 PM  
that's what i said. there was no way in hell they could pay me enough to stay in Korea.
 
dez
2004-01-07 10:31:42 PM  
pfft. shiat id do it for free!
 
2004-01-07 10:32:49 PM  
You would think the pentagon would learn a lesson from cinema ...

 
2004-01-07 10:33:23 PM  
pffft, dead iraqis aint worth anything

/govenrnment
 
2004-01-07 10:33:32 PM  
instead, why not just bring in cheaper Indian soldiers to fight instead of American soldiers?

/bitterness
 
2004-01-07 10:34:26 PM  
dervish16108

I think they did. How to exploit the society.
 
2004-01-07 10:35:25 PM  
that re-up bonus hasn't gone up to twenty years

cheapskates
 
2004-01-07 10:35:44 PM  
The large majority of the time, good soldiers don't join the military for the money.

I've never been able to understand the logic in offering money in an effort to keep good soldiers.
 
rka
2004-01-07 10:36:55 PM  
Hell, even in peace time, most low level grunts and Airmen I've ever known couldn't wait to get out.
 
2004-01-07 10:37:38 PM  
None of this matters, since all future wars will be fought by giant robots in outer-space.

 
2004-01-07 10:38:40 PM  
"Man, they can't pay me enough to stay here," said a 23-year-old specialist from the Army's 4th Infantry Division...

Uh oh, someone is going to peeling a LOT of potatoes for a LONG time over there.
 
2004-01-07 10:38:44 PM  
Yes, but would they stay for a hot cocoa sampler box?
 
2004-01-07 10:39:39 PM  
Gee, it's starting to get a little drafty. Get it?! DRAFTY?!!! HAHAHAHA!!! Hoooo-boy.
 
2004-01-07 10:40:09 PM  
Eat More Possum

We're all "pro-peace"...so was Neville Chamberlain.

Asshat.

/Chamberlain, don't shoot me, Possum.
 
2004-01-07 10:40:37 PM  
An Army of One Cheap-arse Pay Scale.

/got nuthin'
 
2004-01-07 10:42:14 PM  
Actually, frickin_terriferable might be onto something. If they can take your jobs, why can't you hire them to fight for you?
 
2004-01-07 10:42:14 PM  
Who can blame them? Why would they want to get killed for a war that was started for dubious reasons?
 
2004-01-07 10:43:18 PM  
Hell, when I got out in the late 80s, they offered me $15000 to stay in, and nobody was shooting at my ass.

Typical crap from DC: A blue chip defense at a blue light price.
 
2004-01-07 10:43:51 PM  
"Man, they can't pay me enough to stay here," said a 23-year-old specialist from the Army's 4th Infantry Division...

Uh oh, someone is going to peeling a LOT of potatoes for a LONG time over there.



Oh you mean Halliburton? They, not the soldiers peel the potatos...
 
2004-01-07 10:44:43 PM  
Oh you mean Halliburton? They, not the soldiers peel the potatos...

And it costs $20 per potato.
 
2004-01-07 10:45:05 PM  
LOL @ blankman
 
2004-01-07 10:45:17 PM  
You know, if the politicos could stop the dick-waving and pull their heads out of their asses for 5 minutes, maybe they'd realize that the general public would rather not fight a war, and instead would rather be left the fark alone. If it weren't for those manipulative bastards in power, war would be a pretty rare thing, I'd imagine.
 
2004-01-07 10:45:24 PM  
We aren't all like that.

I'd gladly take a $10,000 re-enlistment bonus to stay in Iraq.
 
2004-01-07 10:45:56 PM  
id rather peel potatoes than be dead
 
2004-01-07 10:46:24 PM  
underdog - used to work that way... as recently as the civil war. Enlist your slave in your place, give a few to the military, etc. Up North, rich folk could pay poor folk to volunteer to serve in their places.
 
2004-01-07 10:47:19 PM  
Eat More Possum
I hope this starts a trend at the reservist level. Those poor folk are being called to do the same duty yet receive less pay than enlistees.


Not quite. When reservists are called up, they are activated (ie, put on active duty). Thus, they receive the same pay their full-time active duty counterparts do of the same rank. Only when on reserve duty do they "make less," but they also work a hell of a lot less. And if they didn't expect or want to ever be called up, they shouldn't have joined. If you join to get paid and don't expect to do your duty, fark you.

Again, facts. I know, I'm getting bad about posting real facts in fark discussions. I know they have no place here. Back to laughing at everyone who pretends to have a concept of how the military works or thinks.

/feh
 
2004-01-07 10:48:12 PM  
amen to that, kabar
 
2004-01-07 10:48:42 PM  
Eat More Possum

Thanks for the link.

That is EXACTLY what I have been looking for to show my Toby-Keith-listenin'-cheap-ass-plastic-flag-stuck-to-their-car-window-bring-'e m-on-and-smoke-'em-out co-workers.

Truly, truly sad.
 
2004-01-07 10:48:44 PM  
Bufu I think comparing someone who questions the Iraqi invasion to Chamberlain is a bit of a stretch. However, history may show otherwise, just as it has called his policy into question. Be that as it may, you are wrong, we are not all pro-peace. There was a goodly portion that rejoiced the day we began bombing Afghanistan and again when we went at Iraq. Aside from any arguments as to those actions being necessary or not, someone who takes pleasure in death and destruction is far from pro-peace.

/asshat back at you.
 
2004-01-07 10:49:20 PM  
What, you mean military folk aren't snapping up reenlistment bonuses? Surely this must have something to do with Dubya, because otherwise they'd be rushing to cash in. Right? There are no other reasons or circumstances in which reenlistment bonuses don't draw a lot of success, right?
 
2004-01-07 10:49:38 PM  
they will have to do better than that. GI life insurance in ww2 was 10k given to the family if ya took the dirt nap.

over 60years and still no rise in monies . for shame.
 
2004-01-07 10:50:39 PM  
Bonehead Bush is destroying the armed forces. Clinton handed him the strongest army in the world and Bonehead Bush gutted it.
 
2004-01-07 10:50:47 PM  
"Man, they can't pay me enough to stay here," said a 23-year-old specialist from the Army's 4th Infantry Division...

----------------------------------------

I remember many soildiers saying that when I was in, including me, and we werent involved in a war at the time.
This is a common statement made by Newbees.
 
2004-01-07 10:51:19 PM  
gi life insurance is a lot more than 10k now....10k is just the re-enlistment bonus. i like dubya, except fer the way he mixes up his words and such.

http://www.bushisms.com
 
2004-01-07 10:51:52 PM  
Sir_Spanksalot
they will have to do better than that. GI life insurance in ww2 was 10k given to the family if ya took the dirt nap.

over 60years and still no rise in monies . for shame.


Jesus christ, I've seen people jack up facts before on fark, but did you even bother to check before posting? Service Group Life Insurance (SGLI) is $250,000 for ~$16/mo. Little bit of a "rise in the monies"

/refer to above post
 
2004-01-07 10:52:45 PM  
To Eat more possum. Once reservists are activated they make the same amount of money their active duty conterparts make. A called up staff sgt makes the same as an active staff sgt, a called up Major makes the same as an active Major. The difference in pay comes in when the reservist can no longer do his civilian job so he does not get paid for his civilian job. Although there are some companies that make up the difference in pay and there is a movement afoot for the government to pick up the the difference in pay also. As for the loss of pay the reservist knows when he or she signs up that they may one day get called up. It is part of the risk they take when they join the military, you go to war DUH. The extra 20,000 or so they earned on the weekends and 2 weeks a year no longer looks so attractive when they are paid and expected to work like the active duty military. Maybe if I claim I can make more as a civilian the military will pay me more too. Or I can just serve my country for less than my civilian counterparts make and listen to them whine. But most of the time I spend over seas so I don't have to listen to them.
 
2004-01-07 10:54:01 PM  
You don't have to be afraid of getting shot to want to get out of Iraq. Maybe you had to shoot somebody you didn't want to, and you don't want to have to again.
 
2004-01-07 10:54:57 PM  
Muta
Bonehead Bush is destroying the armed forces. Clinton handed him the strongest army in the world and Bonehead Bush gutted it.


HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

holy fark thats rich.
 
2004-01-07 10:55:48 PM  
jwrebholz, the "general public" we are fighting would rather see all of us, not just military personnel, dead than alive. They choose war, and not entirely because a manipulative bastard told them to. They choose it because their religion tells them that those who don't conform to their religion must be purged from the face of the earth. Add to that our desire to be alive rather than dead, our poor handling of dealings with those people based on our misunderstanding/underestimation of those people, and you have a volatile mix. It's easy to say "if we all just stopped fighting, there would be no war", but that line of reasoning does not work when you have somebody else shouting "i will stop fighting once you and everyone like you are dead".

I agree with the point made in the article; all too often we give our military the shaft. However, most of the fluff just gives me the distinct impression that the author has just finished busting out a large load in his/her pants at the fact that they have a nice juicy bit of negative news concerning this war they don't agree with.
 
2004-01-07 10:57:27 PM  
The army was pretty gutted by the time Clinton handed it over- Bush just put it on the grill.
 
2004-01-07 10:57:45 PM  
Bah, the pay sucked when I was in the Army back in the early 90's, I can't imagine how much it sucks now that we are at war with people for no good reason. All it will take is 1 more big terrorist attack or another fake war and all you Selective Service folks will be getting your letters. Thank god I'm over thirty and they would take me very much last. Don't get me wrong, if we were under attack and needed people for real defense of this country I would walk in and enlist just like I did 13 years ago, but I wouldn't go to Iraq for a million dollars.
 
2004-01-07 11:01:48 PM  
Dead Iraqi Children! For shame USA!

A pic of dead Iraqi children with no caption = USA's fault. There's no way that these kids were killed any other way, than by the cold heartless American soldiers who shoot at them for target practice.

/sarcasm
 
2004-01-07 11:01:56 PM  
Most fitting use of this tagline ever.
 
2004-01-07 11:02:30 PM  
^^^make that 'tag' =]
 
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