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(USA Today)   Dwight Howard is a Rocket. Only time will tell if he's more of an Apollo 11 or an Apollo 13   (usatoday.com) divider line 96
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2013-07-05 10:13:15 PM

TheManofPA: jayhawk88: SnakeLee: Cletus C.: Exactly dick is what the Lakers will accomplish next year. They would have had at least double dick if Howard had stayed. Move on, Laker fan.

I'm now more scared of them getting Wiggins than anything

Oh Lord, it's almost guaranteed to happen now. They'll come in with like the 11th or 12 worst record, then on Lottery night.....TADA! Then three solid months of articles about how Kobe is going to pass the torch to Wiggins and teach him how to be a champion.

You got to admit that it would be a great swerve for Adam Silver's first lottery to have a conspiracy theory with it


I almost hope it does happen now, it would be worth it just for the Simmons article alone.
 
2013-07-05 10:15:35 PM
I should have known Howard was going to screw this up somehow... trash LeBron for "The Decision" all you want. At least he could make a farking decision.
 
2013-07-05 10:20:27 PM
What a coddled, farking princess. Now I hope he chooses LA. Peace
 
2013-07-05 10:20:39 PM

bulldg4life: Weeeeeeee


That is some epic dick-tangle, Dwight.  Way to prove every evil thing people have said about you is stone-cold truth.
 
2013-07-05 10:21:00 PM

Trocadero: Also wonder if it's time for Kupchak to check out. Mainly for his own benefit. A GM that good shouldn't have to slum it for Jimmy Buss, the epitome of apples falling 10 nautical miles from the tree. Jeanie, get your brother out of there!


Kupchak's contract is up after next year. If the Lakers do fall to a lottery levels it wouldn't be a good look to have him leave after that, but at the same time they'll basically be starting from scratch after next year, could be a tough job if they can't woo LeBron.

Amazing to me that they don't try to flip Gasol and Nash for picks at this point and really just bottom out. It's the obvious play, and I know Laker Fan would biatch and scream but goddamn, suck it up sunstrokes. Are you really going to give a shiat about 45 wins at the end of this season? Take a cue from the Celtics and at least try to get out ahead of things.
 
2013-07-05 10:26:20 PM

Palmer Eldritch: I should have known Howard was going to screw this up somehow... trash LeBron for "The Decision" all you want. At least he could make a farking decision.


Amazing.

Although, we shouldn't rule out the possibility that Kobe is just flat-out blackmailing Howard right now. Probably took him to Vegas a couple months ago after the season, arranged some compromising photos with a hooker.
 
2013-07-05 10:35:14 PM
What if the lakers no longer want him back. Let him publicly declare he wants to return, then withdraw their offer just to spite him. Won't change their team next year either way.
 
2013-07-05 10:39:24 PM
It's turning out to be an Apollo 18.

/fingertips
//fingertips
 
2013-07-05 10:42:36 PM
So where does this rank on the Favre scale of indecision?
 
2013-07-05 10:43:16 PM
"Houston, we you have a problem."
 
2013-07-05 10:44:38 PM
Woj rereporting that Houston deal is done.
 
2013-07-05 10:45:01 PM
Now Dwight's told Stephen A. Smith he's going to the Rockets, for real this time. Also asked if he has any Cheetos.
 
2013-07-05 10:45:59 PM
Kupchak announces they no longer have interest in Howard
 
2013-07-05 10:47:42 PM

jayhawk88: Trocadero: Also wonder if it's time for Kupchak to check out. Mainly for his own benefit. A GM that good shouldn't have to slum it for Jimmy Buss, the epitome of apples falling 10 nautical miles from the tree. Jeanie, get your brother out of there!

Kupchak's contract is up after next year. If the Lakers do fall to a lottery levels it wouldn't be a good look to have him leave after that, but at the same time they'll basically be starting from scratch after next year, could be a tough job if they can't woo LeBron.

Amazing to me that they don't try to flip Gasol and Nash for picks at this point and really just bottom out. It's the obvious play, and I know Laker Fan would biatch and scream but goddamn, suck it up sunstrokes. Are you really going to give a shiat about 45 wins at the end of this season? Take a cue from the Celtics and at least try to get out ahead of things.


Does Nash have trade value? He's 39, and a sieve on defense. Unless he's got some expiring contract that I'm fairly sure he doesn't, I can't imagine anyone wanting him.

I like the guy, but at this point his best role is along the lines of Juwan Howard: lockroom guy who doesn't play outside garbage time.
 
2013-07-05 10:50:28 PM
This is the latest on ESPN... now I'm more confused. Did he ever really have second thoughts about the Lakers?

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9453534/dwight-howard- sa ys-sign-houston-rockets
 
2013-07-05 10:51:57 PM

robsul82: So where does this rank on the Favre scale of indecision?


Now I'm seeing that he only went back to let the Lakers know he was out. Believing Howard that was indecisive is the obvious choice, but it could be some Twitter overreaction.
 
2013-07-05 10:53:00 PM
His twitter avatar has changed. It's official now
 
2013-07-05 10:54:52 PM
So a big star turns down $30 million in order to go to Houston instead of LA. Nice team you built there, Buss.
 
2013-07-05 10:56:47 PM

FreakinB: robsul82: So where does this rank on the Favre scale of indecision?

Now I'm seeing that he only went back to let the Lakers know he was out. Believing Howard that was indecisive is the obvious choice, but it could be some Twitter overreaction.


I'm going to choose not to believe it and rate it an 8.5, lol.
 
2013-07-05 10:57:59 PM

Palmer Eldritch: So a big star turns down $30 million in order to go to Houston instead of LA. Nice team you built there, Buss.


State income tax! Plus he's young enough that the Rockets can extend him again if it works out. But yeah, bad times in Lakerland.
 
2013-07-05 11:01:02 PM

Palmer Eldritch: So a big star turns down $30 million in order to go to Houston instead of LA. Nice team you built there, Buss.


Not really. He won't reach the end of this contract before he renegotiates it, barring career-ending injury. Long run effect is nothing, otherwise.
 
2013-07-05 11:02:31 PM
Why did we even bother listening to Chris Broussard? Haven't we learned our lesson yet?
 
2013-07-05 11:04:58 PM
I know, I'm a Celtics fan enjoying some schadenfreude. Although I was kind of hoping Dwight would resign with the Lakers and turn into an albatross...
 
2013-07-05 11:05:44 PM

Neeek: Does Nash have trade value? He's 39, and a sieve on defense. Unless he's got some expiring contract that I'm fairly sure he doesn't, I can't imagine anyone wanting him.

I like the guy, but at this point his best role is along the lines of Juwan Howard: lockroom guy who doesn't play outside garbage time.


If the injuries are going linger then yeah, I agree, but by all accounts he takes amazing care of himself, he might have another year or two of decent play. For all his struggles last year he was still a 50/40/90 shooter, and could be had for under $10m a year.

Wouldn't he solve a lot of problems for, say, Indiana coming off the bench, leading the second unit? If the Pacers offered the Lakers Psycho T, DJ Augustine, Gerald Green, and a couple picks for Nash, the Lakers would probably at least think about it if they were of a mind to blow it up.
 
2013-07-05 11:06:19 PM
So...who's trading for Asik now?
 
2013-07-05 11:12:09 PM

FreakinB: So...who's trading for Asik now?


Hawks

Asik for Josh Smith
 
2013-07-05 11:20:06 PM

bulldg4life: FreakinB: So...who's trading for Asik now?

Hawks

Asik for Josh Smith


Makes the most sense. The Rockets would be nuts if that happened.

Side note: Does Millsap for 2 yrs/19 mil strike anyone else as a steal for the Hawks?
 
2013-07-05 11:30:59 PM

FreakinB: bulldg4life: FreakinB: So...who's trading for Asik now?

Hawks

Asik for Josh Smith

Makes the most sense. The Rockets would be nuts if that happened.

Side note: Does Millsap for 2 yrs/19 mil strike anyone else as a steal for the Hawks?


I think it's a good signing, but not quite in the steal category.
 
2013-07-05 11:33:34 PM
Considering the Hawks emptied their team (actually got someone to take Joe Johnson) to have room for two max players...Millsap is not a steal
 
2013-07-05 11:39:42 PM

regindyn: I think it's a good signing, but not quite in the steal category


Maybe I overstated it, but anybody better than average in the NBA is going to make something around that. I mean, he's only getting .5mil/year more than a smart team gave to Tiago Splitter (who's a good player but doesn't have Millsap's track record).

bulldg4life: Considering the Hawks emptied their team (actually got someone to take Joe Johnson) to have room for two max players...Millsap is not a steal


Meh, the max players didn't come. Not a bad plan B. And getting someone to take Joe Johnson's contract remains a win in and of itself.
 
2013-07-06 12:10:42 AM

FreakinB: Palmer Eldritch: So a big star turns down $30 million in order to go to Houston instead of LA. Nice team you built there, Buss.

State income tax! Plus he's young enough that the Rockets can extend him again if it works out. But yeah, bad times in Lakerland.


Yeah, the money overall works out to where Howard would have gotten 10 million extra in LA but would have to play an extra year.  Presuming he doesn't suck it up, he can easily make that up in his next contract/difference in cost of living in Houston vs LA
 
2013-07-06 01:02:04 AM

Bronson Gigabit: ITT: Hurt Lakers fans


Hell, most of the Lakers fans turned on Dwight weeks ago.
 
2013-07-06 01:19:51 AM

Devo: I'm glad the warriors didn't cash in for Howard. I'm also glad we held onto our current core. I can't say I've watched much of Igoudala. Any thoughts on the former allstar?


He is really farking good.  He can carry a team to a 4 seed by himself in the East, probably 8 seed in the West.  If you do get to the finals, he can guard LeBron.  If you guys resign Jack and Landry, you'll have

Curry / Jack
Thompson
Iggy / Barnes
Landry / Whitey
Bogut

That is a niiiiice team.  I am a Celtics fan, but they are my team out West.  I don't think they're going to be an easy out in the playoffs at all
 
2013-07-06 02:05:22 AM
I don't understand the Iggy signing. They already had Barnes at SF. They give up Brandon Rush and 2 #1s to make cap space, and they renounce Jack and Landry. How is Iggy worth all that?
 
2013-07-06 02:27:03 AM

LegacyDL: Unless Hakeem Olajuwon can seriously train this dude to do more than rebound all I can say is good riddance.


Hate to take up for this petulant baby; but he can score. He took a magic team to the finals; and they had nothing else. He was hurt last year. Is he the dream? Not even close.
 
2013-07-06 02:34:08 AM

Glenechocreek: I don't understand the Iggy signing. They already had Barnes at SF. They give up Brandon Rush and 2 #1s to make cap space, and they renounce Jack and Landry. How is Iggy worth all that?


Landry and Jack opted out on their own
 
2013-07-06 05:32:37 AM
Ftfa:The   person said Howard told him he was leaving L.A. because he didn't want to play for Mike D'Antoni and because, well, let's just say Jim Buss was less than impressive during the Lakers' meeting with Howard.

Jim Buss is facefarking his fathers legacy.  I've always kind of liked the Lakers but they've had a good run. This is getting fun to watch.  How many incredibly stupid things is he willing to do to spitefully be contrarian to his much smarter sister.
 
2013-07-06 07:05:48 AM
This was never "50-50". It's been the Rockets ever since it was first reported by Amick. It only become "50-50" because of Dwight's agent being a doucheface and wanting Howard to be the one to announce the decision.

FreakinB: Side note: Does Millsap for 2 yrs/19 mil strike anyone else as a steal for the Hawks?


It absolutely is a steal. Jefferson got what, $14 mill per year from the Bobcats? Millsap is younger and more valuable than Jefferson.

LegacyDL: Unless Hakeem Olajuwon can seriously train this dude to do more than rebound all I can say is good riddance.


It's always funny when people dismiss Dwight's offensive game, because it just affirms to me that they don't actually watch basketball. (you're not doing that, of course: you don't even mention Dwight's defense, so I know you're a troll)
 
2013-07-06 07:07:14 AM

Glenechocreek: I don't understand the Iggy signing. They already had Barnes at SF. They give up Brandon Rush and 2 #1s to make cap space, and they renounce Jack and Landry. How is Iggy worth all that?


Barnes can play the four. Curry/Klay/Iggy/Barnes/Bogut is as good as any lineup in the league (well, on paper) that doesn't feature LeBron James.
 
2013-07-06 07:45:45 AM

gtfan92: Glenechocreek: I don't understand the Iggy signing. They already had Barnes at SF. They give up Brandon Rush and 2 #1s to make cap space, and they renounce Jack and Landry. How is Iggy worth all that?

Barnes can play the four. Curry/Klay/Iggy/Barnes/Bogut is as good as any lineup in the league (well, on paper) that doesn't feature LeBron James.


If you haven't seen Iggy....He's the second-best on-the-ball defender in the world (LBJ is better, but good luck getting him). He has the speed and length to defend 1-4, and small 5s(and big 5s if he's pissed). On offense, he's a little harder to quantify, but there's no reason he can't get on with Curry.
 
2013-07-06 08:23:02 AM

Neeek: He has the speed and length to defend 1-4, and small 5s(and big 5s if he's pissed).


Iggy can't guard big-men, he just can't. He can guard 1 through smallball-4, though.
 
2013-07-06 10:59:35 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: Good riddance.  As a Laker fan, I am used to my demanding divas actually having accomplished something before the team kisses their ass.  The billboards, the banners...disgusting.  Howard has accomplished exactly dick.  Don't offer the world to guys like that.   Shaq, Kobe...pains in the ass both, but they got the job done


Kobe ran Shaq out of town, tried to run Pau out of town, ran the Dwightmare out of town, and now Kobe is trying to be "ultimate teammate" to Pau (before he blames Pau for all the problems of the Lakers again)?

Maybe at some point, Lakers fans will realize Kobe is the problem?
 
2013-07-06 11:10:04 AM

Trollin4Colon: I don't know. Ive lived in texas my whole life and houston is generally the most frowned upon city by the general consensus, with abiline and el paso placing 2nd and 3rd.


Thats ridiculous, Houston is by far the only livable city in that state other than Austin.  Primarily because it is made up of people who are not Houstonians.

Even if you don't like Houston, to claim shiatholes like abiline, el paso, beumont, lubbuck, waco, dfw, etc. are better than it is absurd.
 
2013-07-06 01:18:44 PM

Trollin4Colon: HaywoodJablonski: elguerodiablo: Khellendros: Troy McClure: That's okay.  The Mavs now have more cap space for next summer.

I'd agree, except cap space isn't going to mean anything if we can't lure anyone here . We keep making offers that include lots of money, a good market, and lots of future potential talent with cap space, and it doesn't seem to be selling well.

That is weird. I keep hearing things about how Cuban is by far the best owner in all of sports and really takes care of his entire team. But he keeps wiffing on the big name free agents... I realize all of Texas is Christo-Republican shiathole but Howard, Lin and Beardo all went to Houston so it's gotta be something else... Wonder what it is.

Dallas is THAT bad

I don't know. Ive lived in texas my whole life and houston is generally the most frowned upon city by the general consensus, with abiline and el paso placing 2nd and 3rd.

Not saying they ARE that bad, but thats certainly most of the opinions.

I do have to say thou, DFW is damn near unlivable until they finish all the god damn highways they started construction on.


The shiathole ranking for Texas Cities are as follows
Ranking shiattiest poop holes first

El Paso
Laredo
Brownsville
Waco
McAllen
Killeen
Abilene
Midland
Odessa
Lubbock
Amarillio


The rest of the Big Cities are all decent places to live

Ranked by metro area

Austin (don't move here)
San Antonio
DFW
Houston
Corpus
 
2013-07-06 02:18:23 PM

legion_of_doo: AdolfOliverPanties: Good riddance.  As a Laker fan, I am used to my demanding divas actually having accomplished something before the team kisses their ass.  The billboards, the banners...disgusting.  Howard has accomplished exactly dick.  Don't offer the world to guys like that.   Shaq, Kobe...pains in the ass both, but they got the job done

Kobe ran Shaq out of town, tried to run Pau out of town, ran the Dwightmare out of town, and now Kobe is trying to be "ultimate teammate" to Pau (before he blames Pau for all the problems of the Lakers again)?

Maybe at some point, Lakers fans will realize Kobe is the problem?


I've never been a Kobe fan, and any chance of that happening went out the window with the rape accusation. That said:

1. Shaq ran himself out of town with his "now pay me" comment to Dr. Buss. Given the choice between a rising star and an aging one who wants to be paid, and you could only have one because they hated each other, which would you choose?
2. He just called Pau out for being soft...which he is. The whole league knows that if you want to take him out of his game, put a physical 4 or 5 on him to beat him up down low.
3. Kobe wants #6 so bad, it's almost pathetic. Why would he drive Dwight, who is arguably his best shot at getting it, out of town? What you're seeing is Dwight reacting negatively to someone having the gall to want him to put forth a championship effort. Dwight doesn't want to work for it. He wants the perfect situation he can slide into and win a ring.
4. Once Bynum got healthy and Pau could slide to the 4 spot, Kobe's criticism stopped because he didn't need to be tougher and his talents as a low-post passer could flourish. That's when Kobe started gushing about Pau, not July 5th around 7pm Pacific Time.

Personally, I think Dwight made the right choice. I don't think he'll win a ring with Houston, but he will be loved by their fans and they will improve from 8th in the West to maybe the top 4. OKC is the team to watch and if the Clippers ever realize their potential under Rivers, they could be #2. My Lakers are going to struggle for a while, but that's cool. I've seen them win 10 championships in 30 years, so I can live through another few down years. Jim Buss needs to wise up quickly, though. I don't think he realizes that he is the problem, not the solution.
 
2013-07-06 02:24:16 PM

Alkoholiker: He took a magic team to the finals; and they had nothing else.


Um, no.

Howard's road to the Finals he matched up against:

Sam Dalembert/Theo Ratliff (BTW, the Magic not only had their worst three games of the series in the games where Howard led the team in scoring, but also scored their biggest blowout of the series and clinched the series in a game where Howard was suspended)
Kendrick Perkins (BTW, the Magic were 1-1 in this series when Howard led them - Rashard Lewis led the team in scoring in four of the seven games and Turkoglu led the team in Game 7)
75-year-old Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Anderson Varejao (Howard did kill it in this series but the cast surrounding LeBron was inferior to the squad around Howard).
 
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