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2013-07-05 08:45:26 PM

12349876: dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

That's already been done.  Tons of gluten free stuff in mainline grocery stores.  Tons of products that never had gluten in them now have big fancy GLUTEN FREE labels on them.


It has improved a lot over the past decade or so, but there are still issues with availability and price of many products. And as long as gluten remains the boogie food du jour it will keep improving.

The one issue is that people tend to assume that people who ask for gluten free are just on the bandwagon and it doesn't actually matter. As a result they often don't take care to keep items from coming into contact with gluton.
 
2013-07-05 08:45:36 PM

rugman11: It's almost as if these people are so desperate to find a solution, that they don't care about finding the right solution.


They want to find something to blame, and more to the point, they want to clear themselves of blame in their own minds.
 
2013-07-05 08:46:38 PM

thrgd456: Autism has a direct link to mother's using narcotics and medications before and during pregnancy.

I thought everyone had figured that one out by now...


That I can buy.
 
2013-07-05 08:48:01 PM
CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.
 
2013-07-05 08:49:41 PM

RollingThunder: Just look at his opinions on science based medicine, and you'll see what kind of a nutbar this guy is.  His entire site is nuttery.

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/evidence-based-medicine-coins-flip- wo rth-certainty


Yeah. I had to browse the site a bit myself to see what other nonsense was to be found. This one stands out:

Prevent Alzheimer's by Sunning & Skipping Sunscreens

Sounds like a good way to forget how you got skin cancer.

I swear half the links are about Monsanto. The other half are "This natural remedy will cure *blank*"
 
2013-07-05 08:55:32 PM
my nephew is highly autistic, as well as mentally retarded.  it was thought that he would never speak, let alone have any understanding of the outside world, or ever be toilet trained.  his autism therapist took him off any gluten, as well as all high sugar fruit, any preservatives, basically any processed food.  it took years, but he can now speak when spoken to, has learned the alphabet and is able to read sentences, he laughs, he sings simple songs and will smile with you.

last year my mother left out a piece of bread when he was visiting, and he grabbed it.  for SIX WEEKS after that, he stopped speaking, returned to "stimming" which is repetitive actions that he focused on instead of the outside world, and lost his toilet training...  I seriously doubt that his autism was caused by gluten, but it is certainly effected by gluten.
 
2013-07-05 08:56:04 PM

megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.


Best. CSB. Ever.

/So what does he do in the Putin offices?
//Get it!?!?!
 
2013-07-05 08:57:56 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

Best. CSB. Ever.

/So what does he do in the Putin offices?
//Get it!?!?!


Alright, I actually "lol'd".

You. You have funny.
 
2013-07-05 08:59:08 PM

AJisaff: I seriously doubt that his autism was caused by gluten, but it is certainly effected by gluten.


My ex is a Celiac (for reals... note from the doctor and everything) and crazy as fark.

The whole thing is starting to make sense.
 
2013-07-05 09:01:11 PM
It should be perfectly legal to open hand slap these people across the face and head with any level of force at any time.
 
2013-07-05 09:02:53 PM

megarian: You. You have funny.


Excellent.

Phase 1 complete.
 
2013-07-05 09:04:30 PM

megarian: Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)


You, Sir, are a fine American!
 
2013-07-05 09:13:58 PM

NewportBarGuy: megarian: Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

You, Sir, are a fine American!


Why, thank you ma'am.

/please don't be a cop please don't be a cop please don't be a cop...
 
2013-07-05 09:25:10 PM
The symbol for the sign of virgo is holding stalks of wheat, so I blame the sixth sign of the astrological zodiac for this latest confirmation of autism cause.
 
2013-07-05 09:42:08 PM
my son is high-functioning autistic and gluten-sensitive, so I'm getting a kick out of this article
 
2013-07-05 09:50:09 PM

Glenford: "there is a growing awareness that a multitude of environmental factors including vaccines,"

And that's where I stopped reading.


Same
 
2013-07-05 09:54:25 PM
I predict things like this will continue until we find out what causes autism and how to treat it.  My little bro was autistic in such a way that he always behaved half his age.  Didn't talk 'til 5; almost 30 and still has to ride the bus.  My mother didn't go full derp or anything, but she sure wanted some good info, and there isn't much to be had.
 
2013-07-05 09:57:02 PM
www.cs.clemson.edu

You can have my Vax when you can figure out the computer room door code. Man, the console looks like it's ready to fall over. Stupid dumb tube.
 
2013-07-05 10:03:04 PM
The proof:

i260.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-05 10:13:44 PM

megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.


It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?
 
2013-07-05 10:33:04 PM
Is this a continuation of the thread below "At what point do you classify someone as insane? "?
 
2013-07-05 10:34:02 PM

Authentic Chop Suey: is blow gluten free?


Depends what you cut it with.
 
2013-07-05 10:37:50 PM

Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?


That response was like an awesome e.e. cummings poem.
 
2013-07-05 10:52:20 PM
www.zeitgeistyreport.com
 
2013-07-05 11:49:50 PM

dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

And your little snowflake not eating wheat will not put your child or my family at risk (it might even make your child healthier as it rules out a lot of processed foods).

That is what I object to about the anti-vaxxers, they are risking the lives of their children, who made no such choice, and every other person in society for no legitimate reason.


My only objection to the gluten free fad other than it being annoying: you get one "special" pasta at restaurants.  It used to be whole wheat.  Now gluten free is the rage.  I ask for whole wheat and get "well no but we have gluten free." No, that is the exact opposite of what I want.  There's way more fatties that want whole wheat than people with celiac disease, but I digress.  Apparently keeping both gluten free and whole wheat handy is too much to ask, even though you really only need to cook them when requested and pasta doesn't go bad too quickly by staying on the shelf.

/this has nothing to do with anything.
 
2013-07-06 12:13:05 AM

Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?




I always wished I had a time lock safe to put the blow in. Like lock up the extra so you don't dip into it at six AM. Not openable until noon the next day.

/save myself from myself
 
2013-07-06 12:15:56 AM
well that explains superman
 
2013-07-06 12:16:44 AM

CruJones: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?

I always wished I had a time lock safe to put the blow in. Like lock up the extra so you don't dip into it at six AM. Not openable until noon the next day.

/save myself from myself

 
2013-07-06 12:34:16 AM
So we've been farming wheat for 13 thousand years or so and it's fairly easy to deduce that we'd been eating it for some time prior to farming it. Pretty weird for such a late onset epidemic of autism.
 
2013-07-06 12:46:35 AM

Dwight_Yeast: dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

Yup. I grew up with a father and brother who had wheat allergies at a time (the 1980s) when almost no one had heard of such a thing.  Dad was pretty smart and mom was adaptable, so we ate a lot of rice when I was growing up and didn't really have bread in the house until  I went off to school.

The biggest single advance I've seen is the improvement in gluten-free baked goods.  The receipies mom used for corn-based cakes and cupcakes back then were pretty dire, and made me suspicious of gluten-free baking.  Today, you can get all sorts of tasty stuff at any decent grocery store.

/I really like Trader Joe's gluten-free chocolate chip cookies.


Can't speak for the cupcakes... but rice flour works pretty darn well for chocolate chip cookies. :D

/not gluten sensitive, thankfully, but did go off it for a bit to check.
 
2013-07-06 01:05:59 AM
Other parents ask me frequently whether I have "cut wheat and dairy" from my son's diet to "cure" his autism. He's autistic; what he eats is very limited already. You cut those out and he's living off applesauce and wieners. Thanks, I will stick with understanding him and getting off my arse to implement an appropriate behavior plan, not blaming the trendy boogeyman of the week.
 
2013-07-06 01:11:47 AM

megarian: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?

That response was like an awesome e.e. cummings poem.


Going for

WW

Will take e.e.,,,

Me

WWee

/fun no?
 
2013-07-06 01:15:58 AM

CruJones: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?



I always wished I had a time lock safe to put the blow in. Like lock up the extra so you don't dip into it at six AM. Not openable until noon the next day.

/save myself from myself


If the blow is in the safe, we'll have to blow it. Then we will be up, with blow, but not blown up.

/if you put it in the safe you are not doing it right
//thread high jacked yet?
 
2013-07-06 01:21:44 AM
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the gut has a central nervous system all it's own. It has interneurons, processing ability and everything. It's also susceptible to some of the same genetic anomalies that cause mental illnesses because it uses some of the same receptors and signal transduction machinery as certain parts of the brain. This is why some kinds of gut problems in certain people are treated with things like selective seratonin re-uptake inhibitors.

So is it really all surprising that autism, which may have some genetic contribution, has an association with various gut disturbances? In any case, whether there is a genetic link that involves the gut's immune system or not, it's unlikely that gluten or anything else that causes digestive problems, is causative for autism.
 
2013-07-06 08:15:11 AM

Moonfisher: Other parents ask me frequently whether I have "cut wheat and dairy" from my son's diet to "cure" his autism. He's autistic; what he eats is very limited already. You cut those out and he's living off applesauce and wieners. Thanks, I will stick with understanding him and getting off my arse to implement an appropriate behavior plan, not blaming the trendy boogeyman of the week.


I wish more parents were like you.

I did behavior therapy with one little girl whose mother tried a different fad diet every month in an effort to "cure" her autism. All it ever did was make the little girl act out more and make her therapists miserable...
 
2013-07-06 08:31:23 AM

T.rex: Well... there is SOME reason for autism...   But according to many farkers, to suggest a cause is heresay.


Surely they were not genetically predisposed? That would put a small part of the blame on the choices of the parents and that is not allowed. Parents have no influence on the outcomes of their children you fool.

No wonder people call it heresy (not heresay, or hearsay which are very different)
 
2013-07-06 09:40:45 AM

Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?

That response was like an awesome e.e. cummings poem.

Going for

WW

Will take e.e.,,,

Me

WWee

/fun no?


Heeeehehehehe
 
2013-07-06 01:18:33 PM
t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-07-06 04:05:20 PM
12349876:
That's already been done.  Tons of gluten free stuff in mainline grocery stores.  Tons of products that never had gluten in them now have big fancy GLUTEN FREE labels on them.

This with one caveat.  A lot of wheat free foods are produced in factories that have flour cross contamination.
 
2013-07-06 07:11:52 PM
I recently spent a few sleepless hours among the "vaccines cause autism" crowd. Their children are all on wheat-free, dairy-free diets.

Logic and science are not their strong points. They will try any "alternative" medicine, but vaccines are an untested money-making conspiracy scam.

Whatever you do, don't suggest a genetic link. Then you are BLAMING THE PARENTS.
 
2013-07-06 08:04:57 PM

Phins: I recently spent a few sleepless hours among the "vaccines cause autism" crowd. Their children are all on wheat-free, dairy-free diets.

Logic and science are not their strong points. They will try any "alternative" medicine, but vaccines are an untested money-making conspiracy scam.

Whatever you do, don't suggest a genetic link. Then you are BLAMING THE PARENTS.


There was a study recently that indicated that autistics are more likely to suffer from constipation.  Digestive woes + Sensory Integration issues aren't good combo.  What might feel like a little gas to you might feel like having an elephant in your stomach.

I have non-celiac gluten intolerance.  As soon as I saw that cheerios were constipating my kid, I pulled him off it.  This was back when we were just suspicious of autism.   At least now my very autistic four year old is not backed up.  That makes a big difference in behavior.

Anti Vaxers are just nuts.
 
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