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2013-07-05 05:03:36 PM  
Dear parent.  Maybe, just maybe your snowflake is too defective and needs to be melted.
 
2013-07-05 05:09:05 PM  
andansal.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-05 05:09:41 PM  
They also found that the IgG anti-gliadin antibody response was significantly greater in the autistic children with gastrointestinal symptoms in comparison to those without them.

I did not know that autistic children with Celiac disease can have the same types of symptoms as the non-autistic children with that same disease. Please, shiatty blog, tell us more.
 
2013-07-05 06:05:42 PM  
What the fark am I reading dot jay peg?
 
2013-07-05 07:00:35 PM  
The floor might have a link to autism.  Every autistic child has, at one time or another, stepped on the floor.  If you are worried that your kid might be autistic, grab it and jump off a farking cliff.
 
2013-07-05 07:53:37 PM  
Um, there are some autistic people who are very sensitive to gluten but that wasn't what caused their condition.
 
2013-07-05 07:53:43 PM  
Smoking and Drinking during pregnancy reduce the risk of autism.  You heard it here first.
 
2013-07-05 07:54:28 PM  
This is why the rates of autism have skyrocketed.  People never used to eat wheat before.
 
2013-07-05 07:54:32 PM  
Logical extension of the 'ZOMG, GLUTEN!!!!' mania of the last couple of years.
 
2013-07-05 07:55:01 PM  
Well... there is SOME reason for autism...   But according to many farkers, to suggest a cause is heresay.
 
2013-07-05 07:55:03 PM  
A big reason for the rise of autism diagnosis recently is that you can buy one.
You tell someone your child is retarded/mentally disabled, everyone feels pity.
If you can say your child is autistic, you get a much more positive and encouraging response.
 
2013-07-05 07:55:04 PM  
"there is a growing awareness that a multitude of environmental factors including vaccines,"

And that's where I stopped reading.
 
2013-07-05 07:55:45 PM  
allhumorimages.com
 
2013-07-05 07:56:15 PM  
Gotta think that the previous story "At what point do you classify someone as insane? " and this one are linked somehow....
 
2013-07-05 07:56:18 PM  
Just look at his opinions on science based medicine, and you'll see what kind of a nutbar this guy is.  His entire site is nuttery.

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/evidence-based-medicine-coins-flip- wo rth-certainty
 
2013-07-05 07:57:46 PM  
I won't make a decision until I hear what she has to say about it!
turbocakes.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-05 07:59:07 PM  
Have they been looking at the brains of these autistic kids? My mom has most of her corpus callosum missing and her neurologist told her she's lucky it didn't leave her autistic or profoundly retarded,not that she doesn't have issues though.
 
2013-07-05 07:59:15 PM  
I think the writer of TFA has an Autistic or Allergic aversion to using commas correctly.
 
2013-07-05 07:59:38 PM  
FTA: A new study published in the open access journal PLoS...

What's an "open access journal?"
 
2013-07-05 08:00:16 PM  
Haven't people been eating wheat for a long time?   Why would it cause a rise in autism?

/too old for the HPV vaccine
//hello throat cancer!
 
2013-07-05 08:01:32 PM  

dv-ous: FTA: A new study published in the open access journal PLoS...

What's an "open access journal?"


Must be a rebellion against those uppity journals that require your research be reviewed for things like 'facts' or 'evidence'.
 
2013-07-05 08:01:53 PM  
Autism rates have risen because of numerous conditions on the "autism spectrum" added to the DSM, plus tge realization that if your socially awkward kid has a disability, you get an automatic pass on having to own up to raising a kid with the social graces of a brick and a check from social security each month.
 
2013-07-05 08:04:38 PM  
Just read some more.  "Without wheat celiac disease would not exist..."  Thanks for the insight einstein.  Without peanuts, there would be no peanut allergies!!!
 
2013-07-05 08:04:59 PM  

T.rex: Well... there is SOME reason for autism...   But according to many farkers, to suggest a cause is heresay.


I believe the word you're looking for is heresy. Hearsay would be me testifying in court that I  heard you  say that. 

But if you insist, I will quote the heretics who authored this study:

The data from this study should be interpreted with caution. Most importantly, the observed increased IgG antibody response to gliadin does not necessarily indicate sensitivity to gluten or any pathogenic role for antibodies to gliadin in the context of autism. In addition, the results do not rule out the possibility of moderately increased prevalence of celiac disease among children with autism, especially as duodenal biopsy, the gold standard for definitive diagnosis of celiac disease, was not performed.[emphasis mine]

In short, the authors of this study seem to have a healthy regard for the scientific process, call for further study, and explicitly state the limitations of their study.

The author of the linked article did none of these things.
 
2013-07-05 08:05:55 PM  
A certain set of people have decided that gluten is the root of all evil.

These things go in cycles.
 
2013-07-05 08:09:57 PM  

A Terrible Human: Have they been looking at the brains of these autistic kids? My mom has most of her corpus callosum missing and her neurologist told her she's lucky it didn't leave her autistic or profoundly retarded,not that she doesn't have issues though.


Yup and they do genetic and hearing testing as well.
 
2013-07-05 08:11:51 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: A certain set of people have decided that gluten is the root of all evil.

These things go in cycles.


True... and right now we're on the "wheat cycle".

blog.pv-holidays.com
 
2013-07-05 08:13:38 PM  

Fart_Machine: Um, there are some autistic people who are very sensitive to gluten but that wasn't what caused their condition.


Bingo! Someone needs to explain the correlation/causation thing to the author of TFA.
 
2013-07-05 08:14:24 PM  

Ryker's Peninsula: A big reason for the rise of autism diagnosis recently is that you can buy one.
You tell someone your child is retarded/mentally disabled, everyone feels pity.
If you can say your child is autistic, you get a much more positive and encouraging response.


0/10. Come up with something new.
 
2013-07-05 08:15:36 PM  
c-sections ... Are you out of your mind?

/SILs are a nurse and a bio prof, brother was pre med, currently teaches science, anatomy, other brother is heavy into the medical field, hospitals and such.  All my nieces and nephews were born by c-section.  I think they'd have heard of something by now and stopped having c-sections
 
2013-07-05 08:16:51 PM  
The rise in autism is due to the rise in diagnosis and what was previously thought of as generic retardation is now recognized as low functioning autism. Also many parents of autistic kids are retroactively being diagnosed so the numbers seem to be rising.

Wheat is the demon food du jour. DNRTFA to know they don't know what the hell they are talking about.
 
2013-07-05 08:18:20 PM  
Thanks for making me dumber, schlubmitter.
 
2013-07-05 08:20:14 PM  
Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

And your little snowflake not eating wheat will not put your child or my family at risk (it might even make your child healthier as it rules out a lot of processed foods).

That is what I object to about the anti-vaxxers, they are risking the lives of their children, who made no such choice, and every other person in society for no legitimate reason.
 
2013-07-05 08:20:34 PM  
That explains why France is over run with geniuses. Obnoxious, rude geniuses.

But then, how do we explain the Guidos of Italy. Isn't their pasta made of wheat, too. I'm pretty sure most of it is Canadian Hard Durum wheat flour.

Funny, I've eaten plenty of everything that is bad for you and it hasn't killed me yet. Maybe it is the variety that is keeping me alive.

I love variety. It's my favourite flavour.

Smorgasboard, buffet, family reunion pot o' luck, cafeteria-style! Wooooo!

Can we have a Whoaa, Bundy! for excess?
 
2013-07-05 08:25:10 PM  
FTA:  A new study published in the open access journal PLoS...

What's an "open access journal?"

Open access journals are professional journals that are not behind a pay wall. There is a movement in the library and scientific communities that results from publically funded research should not have to be paid for. Open access journals charge the researcher a small fee to publish, and then allow anyone to read. Some of these journals are peer reviewed and some are not, so you have to be careful to research what journal you are reading.

I would prefer that nut-job parents believed that gluten was the cause of autism rather that vaccines as depriving their kid of gluten doesn't spread disease among the rest of us.
 
2013-07-05 08:25:33 PM  
I found a "Link" between shirt color and life expectancy.

media-cache-ec3.pinimg.com
 
2013-07-05 08:27:07 PM  
As the autism epidemic continues to accelerate

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-07-05 08:28:40 PM  
If a parent decides not to feed their kid wheat, it only affects that kid. If a parent decides not to vaccinate with MMR, it affects all of us. So I know which "explanation" I prefer.
 
2013-07-05 08:29:31 PM  

dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.


That's already been done.  Tons of gluten free stuff in mainline grocery stores.  Tons of products that never had gluten in them now have big fancy GLUTEN FREE labels on them.
 
2013-07-05 08:30:16 PM  

dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.


Yup. I grew up with a father and brother who had wheat allergies at a time (the 1980s) when almost no one had heard of such a thing.  Dad was pretty smart and mom was adaptable, so we ate a lot of rice when I was growing up and didn't really have bread in the house until  I went off to school.

The biggest single advance I've seen is the improvement in gluten-free baked goods.  The receipies mom used for corn-based cakes and cupcakes back then were pretty dire, and made me suspicious of gluten-free baking.  Today, you can get all sorts of tasty stuff at any decent grocery store.

/I really like Trader Joe's gluten-free chocolate chip cookies.
 
2013-07-05 08:31:37 PM  
wheatabix
 
2013-07-05 08:34:10 PM  
This is retarded.
 
2013-07-05 08:35:04 PM  
The truth: Wheat doesn't cause autism - Wil Wheaton does.
 
2013-07-05 08:35:51 PM  
Autism has a direct link to mother's using narcotics and medications before and during pregnancy.

I thought everyone had figured that one out by now...
 
2013-07-05 08:36:43 PM  

12349876: dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

That's already been done.  Tons of gluten free stuff in mainline grocery stores.  Tons of products that never had gluten in them now have big fancy GLUTEN FREE labels on them.


Really not on topic, but that reminds me of a sugar packet I came across a few years ago, which proudly proclaimed its contents to be "!00% fat free".
 
2013-07-05 08:37:06 PM  

brantgoose: Guidos of Italy


Yeah... That's not where Guidos come from.

/The more you know.
//Dago
 
2013-07-05 08:38:09 PM  

Enigmamf: The truth: Wheat doesn't cause autism - Wil Wheaton does.


Not Wil Wheaton.  Wesley Crusher.
 
2013-07-05 08:42:45 PM  

Juansmith: T.rex: Well... there is SOME reason for autism...   But according to many farkers, to suggest a cause is heresay.

I believe the word you're looking for is heresy. Hearsay would be me testifying in court that I  heard you  say that. 

But if you insist, I will quote the heretics who authored this study:

The data from this study should be interpreted with caution. Most importantly, the observed increased IgG antibody response to gliadin does not necessarily indicate sensitivity to gluten or any pathogenic role for antibodies to gliadin in the context of autism. In addition, the results do not rule out the possibility of moderately increased prevalence of celiac disease among children with autism, especially as duodenal biopsy, the gold standard for definitive diagnosis of celiac disease, was not performed.[emphasis mine]

In short, the authors of this study seem to have a healthy regard for the scientific process, call for further study, and explicitly state the limitations of their study.

The author of the linked article did none of these things.


It's almost as if these people are so desperate to find a solution, that they don't care about finding the right solution.
 
2013-07-05 08:44:14 PM  

aerojockey: This is why the rates of autism have skyrocketed.  People never used to eat wheat before.


Yeah, I've got to say: the antivaxxers are nuts, but at least the scapegoat they picked was actually something that has changed over time. It's not a great match for the rise of autism, time-wise (one of the reasons you can tell it's bunk), but wheat consumption doesn't even have that much to fall back on.
 
2013-07-05 08:44:25 PM  
I heard that there is a link to unprotected sex and the rise of Autism.
 
2013-07-05 08:45:26 PM  

12349876: dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

That's already been done.  Tons of gluten free stuff in mainline grocery stores.  Tons of products that never had gluten in them now have big fancy GLUTEN FREE labels on them.


It has improved a lot over the past decade or so, but there are still issues with availability and price of many products. And as long as gluten remains the boogie food du jour it will keep improving.

The one issue is that people tend to assume that people who ask for gluten free are just on the bandwagon and it doesn't actually matter. As a result they often don't take care to keep items from coming into contact with gluton.
 
2013-07-05 08:45:36 PM  

rugman11: It's almost as if these people are so desperate to find a solution, that they don't care about finding the right solution.


They want to find something to blame, and more to the point, they want to clear themselves of blame in their own minds.
 
2013-07-05 08:46:38 PM  

thrgd456: Autism has a direct link to mother's using narcotics and medications before and during pregnancy.

I thought everyone had figured that one out by now...


That I can buy.
 
2013-07-05 08:48:01 PM  
CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.
 
2013-07-05 08:49:41 PM  

RollingThunder: Just look at his opinions on science based medicine, and you'll see what kind of a nutbar this guy is.  His entire site is nuttery.

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/evidence-based-medicine-coins-flip- wo rth-certainty


Yeah. I had to browse the site a bit myself to see what other nonsense was to be found. This one stands out:

Prevent Alzheimer's by Sunning & Skipping Sunscreens

Sounds like a good way to forget how you got skin cancer.

I swear half the links are about Monsanto. The other half are "This natural remedy will cure *blank*"
 
2013-07-05 08:55:32 PM  
my nephew is highly autistic, as well as mentally retarded.  it was thought that he would never speak, let alone have any understanding of the outside world, or ever be toilet trained.  his autism therapist took him off any gluten, as well as all high sugar fruit, any preservatives, basically any processed food.  it took years, but he can now speak when spoken to, has learned the alphabet and is able to read sentences, he laughs, he sings simple songs and will smile with you.

last year my mother left out a piece of bread when he was visiting, and he grabbed it.  for SIX WEEKS after that, he stopped speaking, returned to "stimming" which is repetitive actions that he focused on instead of the outside world, and lost his toilet training...  I seriously doubt that his autism was caused by gluten, but it is certainly effected by gluten.
 
2013-07-05 08:56:04 PM  

megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.


Best. CSB. Ever.

/So what does he do in the Putin offices?
//Get it!?!?!
 
2013-07-05 08:57:56 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

Best. CSB. Ever.

/So what does he do in the Putin offices?
//Get it!?!?!


Alright, I actually "lol'd".

You. You have funny.
 
2013-07-05 08:59:08 PM  

AJisaff: I seriously doubt that his autism was caused by gluten, but it is certainly effected by gluten.


My ex is a Celiac (for reals... note from the doctor and everything) and crazy as fark.

The whole thing is starting to make sense.
 
2013-07-05 09:01:11 PM  
It should be perfectly legal to open hand slap these people across the face and head with any level of force at any time.
 
2013-07-05 09:02:53 PM  

megarian: You. You have funny.


Excellent.

Phase 1 complete.
 
2013-07-05 09:04:30 PM  

megarian: Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)


You, Sir, are a fine American!
 
2013-07-05 09:13:58 PM  

NewportBarGuy: megarian: Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

You, Sir, are a fine American!


Why, thank you ma'am.

/please don't be a cop please don't be a cop please don't be a cop...
 
2013-07-05 09:25:10 PM  
The symbol for the sign of virgo is holding stalks of wheat, so I blame the sixth sign of the astrological zodiac for this latest confirmation of autism cause.
 
2013-07-05 09:42:08 PM  
my son is high-functioning autistic and gluten-sensitive, so I'm getting a kick out of this article
 
2013-07-05 09:50:09 PM  

Glenford: "there is a growing awareness that a multitude of environmental factors including vaccines,"

And that's where I stopped reading.


Same
 
2013-07-05 09:54:25 PM  
I predict things like this will continue until we find out what causes autism and how to treat it.  My little bro was autistic in such a way that he always behaved half his age.  Didn't talk 'til 5; almost 30 and still has to ride the bus.  My mother didn't go full derp or anything, but she sure wanted some good info, and there isn't much to be had.
 
2013-07-05 09:57:02 PM  
www.cs.clemson.edu

You can have my Vax when you can figure out the computer room door code. Man, the console looks like it's ready to fall over. Stupid dumb tube.
 
2013-07-05 10:03:04 PM  
The proof:

i260.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-05 10:13:44 PM  

megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.


It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?
 
2013-07-05 10:33:04 PM  
Is this a continuation of the thread below "At what point do you classify someone as insane? "?
 
2013-07-05 10:34:02 PM  

Authentic Chop Suey: is blow gluten free?


Depends what you cut it with.
 
2013-07-05 10:37:50 PM  

Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?


That response was like an awesome e.e. cummings poem.
 
2013-07-05 10:52:20 PM  
www.zeitgeistyreport.com
 
2013-07-05 11:49:50 PM  

dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

And your little snowflake not eating wheat will not put your child or my family at risk (it might even make your child healthier as it rules out a lot of processed foods).

That is what I object to about the anti-vaxxers, they are risking the lives of their children, who made no such choice, and every other person in society for no legitimate reason.


My only objection to the gluten free fad other than it being annoying: you get one "special" pasta at restaurants.  It used to be whole wheat.  Now gluten free is the rage.  I ask for whole wheat and get "well no but we have gluten free." No, that is the exact opposite of what I want.  There's way more fatties that want whole wheat than people with celiac disease, but I digress.  Apparently keeping both gluten free and whole wheat handy is too much to ask, even though you really only need to cook them when requested and pasta doesn't go bad too quickly by staying on the shelf.

/this has nothing to do with anything.
 
2013-07-06 12:13:05 AM  

Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?




I always wished I had a time lock safe to put the blow in. Like lock up the extra so you don't dip into it at six AM. Not openable until noon the next day.

/save myself from myself
 
2013-07-06 12:15:56 AM  
well that explains superman
 
2013-07-06 12:16:44 AM  

CruJones: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?

I always wished I had a time lock safe to put the blow in. Like lock up the extra so you don't dip into it at six AM. Not openable until noon the next day.

/save myself from myself

 
2013-07-06 12:34:16 AM  
So we've been farming wheat for 13 thousand years or so and it's fairly easy to deduce that we'd been eating it for some time prior to farming it. Pretty weird for such a late onset epidemic of autism.
 
2013-07-06 12:46:35 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: dywed88: Don't care. More demand for gluton free will help the people with a legitimate need for it.

Yup. I grew up with a father and brother who had wheat allergies at a time (the 1980s) when almost no one had heard of such a thing.  Dad was pretty smart and mom was adaptable, so we ate a lot of rice when I was growing up and didn't really have bread in the house until  I went off to school.

The biggest single advance I've seen is the improvement in gluten-free baked goods.  The receipies mom used for corn-based cakes and cupcakes back then were pretty dire, and made me suspicious of gluten-free baking.  Today, you can get all sorts of tasty stuff at any decent grocery store.

/I really like Trader Joe's gluten-free chocolate chip cookies.


Can't speak for the cupcakes... but rice flour works pretty darn well for chocolate chip cookies. :D

/not gluten sensitive, thankfully, but did go off it for a bit to check.
 
2013-07-06 01:05:59 AM  
Other parents ask me frequently whether I have "cut wheat and dairy" from my son's diet to "cure" his autism. He's autistic; what he eats is very limited already. You cut those out and he's living off applesauce and wieners. Thanks, I will stick with understanding him and getting off my arse to implement an appropriate behavior plan, not blaming the trendy boogeyman of the week.
 
2013-07-06 01:11:47 AM  

megarian: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?

That response was like an awesome e.e. cummings poem.


Going for

WW

Will take e.e.,,,

Me

WWee

/fun no?
 
2013-07-06 01:15:58 AM  

CruJones: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?



I always wished I had a time lock safe to put the blow in. Like lock up the extra so you don't dip into it at six AM. Not openable until noon the next day.

/save myself from myself


If the blow is in the safe, we'll have to blow it. Then we will be up, with blow, but not blown up.

/if you put it in the safe you are not doing it right
//thread high jacked yet?
 
2013-07-06 01:21:44 AM  
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the gut has a central nervous system all it's own. It has interneurons, processing ability and everything. It's also susceptible to some of the same genetic anomalies that cause mental illnesses because it uses some of the same receptors and signal transduction machinery as certain parts of the brain. This is why some kinds of gut problems in certain people are treated with things like selective seratonin re-uptake inhibitors.

So is it really all surprising that autism, which may have some genetic contribution, has an association with various gut disturbances? In any case, whether there is a genetic link that involves the gut's immune system or not, it's unlikely that gluten or anything else that causes digestive problems, is causative for autism.
 
2013-07-06 08:15:11 AM  

Moonfisher: Other parents ask me frequently whether I have "cut wheat and dairy" from my son's diet to "cure" his autism. He's autistic; what he eats is very limited already. You cut those out and he's living off applesauce and wieners. Thanks, I will stick with understanding him and getting off my arse to implement an appropriate behavior plan, not blaming the trendy boogeyman of the week.


I wish more parents were like you.

I did behavior therapy with one little girl whose mother tried a different fad diet every month in an effort to "cure" her autism. All it ever did was make the little girl act out more and make her therapists miserable...
 
2013-07-06 08:31:23 AM  

T.rex: Well... there is SOME reason for autism...   But according to many farkers, to suggest a cause is heresay.


Surely they were not genetically predisposed? That would put a small part of the blame on the choices of the parents and that is not allowed. Parents have no influence on the outcomes of their children you fool.

No wonder people call it heresy (not heresay, or hearsay which are very different)
 
2013-07-06 09:40:45 AM  

Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: Authentic Chop Suey: megarian: CSB:
I had a roommate who has had major gluten problems since he got off breastmilk. He's been as gluten-free as one can be since he was a VERY little kid. He is autistic as fark. But he's an artist, went insane, and now works for a Russian puppeteer, so it sort of works for him. Nice guy. Crazy as fark. Best roommate ever (except he stole my blow once. But be bought me a bottle of nice scotch to replace it, so we're cool.)

I know, I know...correlation != causation. Just a not-so-CSB.

It is never cool to steal the blow. However, sometimes the blow needs to be stolen, and that should be appreciated and rewarded. Because, in a world of blow, thieves never win, but they have blow, and that's cool.

/is blow gluten free?
//is scotch?

That response was like an awesome e.e. cummings poem.

Going for

WW

Will take e.e.,,,

Me

WWee

/fun no?


Heeeehehehehe
 
2013-07-06 01:18:33 PM  
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2013-07-06 04:05:20 PM  
12349876:
That's already been done.  Tons of gluten free stuff in mainline grocery stores.  Tons of products that never had gluten in them now have big fancy GLUTEN FREE labels on them.

This with one caveat.  A lot of wheat free foods are produced in factories that have flour cross contamination.
 
2013-07-06 07:11:52 PM  
I recently spent a few sleepless hours among the "vaccines cause autism" crowd. Their children are all on wheat-free, dairy-free diets.

Logic and science are not their strong points. They will try any "alternative" medicine, but vaccines are an untested money-making conspiracy scam.

Whatever you do, don't suggest a genetic link. Then you are BLAMING THE PARENTS.
 
2013-07-06 08:04:57 PM  

Phins: I recently spent a few sleepless hours among the "vaccines cause autism" crowd. Their children are all on wheat-free, dairy-free diets.

Logic and science are not their strong points. They will try any "alternative" medicine, but vaccines are an untested money-making conspiracy scam.

Whatever you do, don't suggest a genetic link. Then you are BLAMING THE PARENTS.


There was a study recently that indicated that autistics are more likely to suffer from constipation.  Digestive woes + Sensory Integration issues aren't good combo.  What might feel like a little gas to you might feel like having an elephant in your stomach.

I have non-celiac gluten intolerance.  As soon as I saw that cheerios were constipating my kid, I pulled him off it.  This was back when we were just suspicious of autism.   At least now my very autistic four year old is not backed up.  That makes a big difference in behavior.

Anti Vaxers are just nuts.
 
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