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(NBC News)   Police don't know exactly what the intentions were of the man they arrested in a stolen truck full of stolen firearms and Molotov cocktails, but they're guessing "not good"   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 35
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2013-07-05 11:35:35 AM
How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?
 
2013-07-05 11:36:29 AM
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2013-07-05 11:36:51 AM

tkwasny: How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?


He would have had fewer guns?

/dnrtfa
 
2013-07-05 11:37:31 AM

tkwasny: How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?


There would have been fewer guns available for him to steal?
 
2013-07-05 11:37:44 AM
Vinson said investigators "have no idea what his intentions are."

Collecting fireflies...with a vengeance!!!
 
2013-07-05 11:44:34 AM
Stolen car, stolen firearms, Molotov cocktails.  Nice trifecta there.
 
2013-07-05 11:46:26 AM
I don't know about the police, but I'd consider that a recipe for a good time. But with more blackjack and hookers.
 
2013-07-05 11:46:33 AM
Bet his blog sucks.
 
2013-07-05 11:47:07 AM
Well, this one has to be a white supremacist/separatist.

/this time!
 
2013-07-05 11:48:29 AM
Someone's getting ready to go for a 5-star wanted level.
 
2013-07-05 11:49:31 AM

tkwasny: How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?


It would have forced him to steal his guns off a truck, thus bringing him to the attention of the police?
 
2013-07-05 11:49:31 AM
On his way to a fourth of July picnic?
 
2013-07-05 11:49:56 AM

legion_of_doo: Well, this one has to be a white supremacist/separatist.

/this time!


So far you're the only one who went there.  Nice chip, though.  Looks heavy.
 
2013-07-05 11:50:09 AM

tkwasny: How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?


How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped John Wayne Gacy from strangling those kids?

/ Just as valid a question
// And by valid I mean idiotic
 
2013-07-05 11:54:08 AM

uncleacid: On his way to a fourth of July picnic?


Nicely done.
 
2013-07-05 11:54:15 AM
"not good"?
I would have gone with "nefarious."
 
2013-07-05 12:00:42 PM
Those are the perfect weapons for Sasquatch hunting.
 
2013-07-05 12:05:41 PM
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Everybody knows that if you hang around Jaspers much, accidents will happen.
 
2013-07-05 12:14:11 PM

jaytkay: tkwasny: How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?

How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped John Wayne Gacy from strangling those kids?

/ Just as valid a question
// And by valid I mean idiotic


You see the same relationship between 'firearms laws and man arrested with stolen firearms' as 'firearms laws and man arrested for strangling'?
 
2013-07-05 12:19:53 PM

RickN99: jaytkay: tkwasny: How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?

How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped John Wayne Gacy from strangling those kids?

/ Just as valid a question
// And by valid I mean idiotic

You see the same relationship between 'firearms laws and man arrested with stolen firearms' as 'firearms laws and man arrested for strangling'?


Yes, as in 'not much'
 
2013-07-05 12:21:49 PM
Yet another incendiary headline. "A truck full of guns and molotov cocktails."
If you actually read the article, a hunting rifle, a shotgun and less than 10 Molotovs.

But the rifle had a scope - I have a pellet gun with a scope.  Heck,  I think nerf guns come with a scope.
The Molotovs were really well made - It's a bottle of gasoline with a rag stuck in it.  seriously how hard is it to make?

Now obviously he was up to no good, and it is a good thing they stopped him; but this is the kind of random violence that cannot be stopped by more laws or regs.  There must be millions of hunting rifles and shotguns in America.

While I agree that universal background checks are a good idea, this is not a good example of why that may be so.  Inflammatory headlines don't help the case either.

/ one pun is coincidence, two is enemy action?
 
2013-07-05 12:24:28 PM

TheBigLie: If you actually read the article, a hunting rifle, a shotgun and less than 10 Molotovs.


What would consist of a truck full of Molotov cocktails? 15? 20? 50? 5000?
 
2013-07-05 12:25:59 PM

tkwasny: How would highly restrictive anti-gun ownership regulations and laws (like in CT) have stopped this guy?


They would never stop a freedom loving American!  NRA 4 EVER!
 
2013-07-05 12:30:05 PM

RickN99: You see the same relationship between 'firearms laws and man arrested with stolen firearms' as 'firearms laws and man arrested for strangling'?


The OP is basically stating that a law he does not like can't stop every crime on Earth, therefore it's not a useful law.

It's like arguing that we really need to get rid of all the homicide and child-raping laws, because they haven't stopped all homicides and child-raping.
 
2013-07-05 12:30:50 PM

bigpete53: What would consist of a truck full of Molotov cocktails? 15? 20? 50? 5000?


How about a truck that is full of Molotovs. when you fill a glass of water, you put water in until you can't put any more in. You don't put in 3 drops then say you have a full glass of water. If the guy was walking around with a Tonka truck, then yes, 10 would be a truck full of Molotov cocktails. 10 would be a milk crate full of cocktails, or a backpack full of cocktails. No truck I've ever seen is filled up by putting 10 bottles in it.
 
2013-07-05 12:36:58 PM

TheBigLie: bigpete53: What would consist of a truck full of Molotov cocktails? 15? 20? 50? 5000?

How about a truck that is full of Molotovs. when you fill a glass of water, you put water in until you can't put any more in. You don't put in 3 drops then say you have a full glass of water. If the guy was walking around with a Tonka truck, then yes, 10 would be a truck full of Molotov cocktails. 10 would be a milk crate full of cocktails, or a backpack full of cocktails. No truck I've ever seen is filled up by putting 10 bottles in it.


Wouldn't that make it hard to drive? I mean, where would the guy sit? And what about his stolen firearms? Where would he put those?

I don't think you've really thought this through.
 
2013-07-05 12:48:22 PM

bigpete53: Wouldn't that make it hard to drive? I mean, where would the guy sit? And what about his stolen firearms? Where would he put those?

I don't think you've really thought this through.



And I think you are being deliberately obtuse. While I am not trying to downplay the danger this man represented, the headline deliberately used language designed to inflate the situation. Much like the police officer who tried to get away with "multiple" instead of giving an actual number.
 
2013-07-05 12:55:59 PM

largedon: [imageshack.us image 142x240]
Everybody knows that if you hang around Jaspers much, accidents will happen.


Wow. Had forgotten. Thanks.
 
2013-07-05 01:02:52 PM

jaytkay: RickN99: You see the same relationship between 'firearms laws and man arrested with stolen firearms' as 'firearms laws and man arrested for strangling'?

The OP is basically stating that a law he does not like can't stop every crime on Earth, therefore it's not a useful law.

It's like arguing that we really need to get rid of all the homicide and child-raping laws, because they haven't stopped all homicides and child-raping.


I've been assured that the entire criminal justice system is unnecessary, because Jesus forgives.

Really, somebody said that.
 
2013-07-05 01:14:29 PM

TheBigLie: bigpete53: What would consist of a truck full of Molotov cocktails? 15? 20? 50? 5000?

How about a truck that is full of Molotovs. when you fill a glass of water, you put water in until you can't put any more in. You don't put in 3 drops then say you have a full glass of water. If the guy was walking around with a Tonka truck, then yes, 10 would be a truck full of Molotov cocktails. 10 would be a milk crate full of cocktails, or a backpack full of cocktails. No truck I've ever seen is filled up by putting 10 bottles in it.


Some trucks have a really small cab, and it wouldn't surprise me if this loon was driving around with the molotovs on the passenger seat so he could huff the fumes.
 
2013-07-05 01:44:06 PM
Hey, lets slow this down. I'm sure there is a perfectly reasonable explanation. Nothing starts a campfire like a good ol' Molotov, and lord knows you need some sort of defense against all these forsaken bears.
 
2013-07-05 01:49:46 PM
Oh Lord, please don't let him be misunderstood.
 
2013-07-05 02:09:33 PM

TheBigLie: bigpete53: Wouldn't that make it hard to drive? I mean, where would the guy sit? And what about his stolen firearms? Where would he put those?

I don't think you've really thought this through.


And I think you are being deliberately obtuse. While I am not trying to downplay the danger this man represented, the headline deliberately used language designed to inflate the situation. Much like the police officer who tried to get away with "multiple" instead of giving an actual number.


What are the odds the perp actually goes by all three of his names? I have a middle name that I don't use, but you'd better believe it will be in the news article if they wanted me to sound like a scary redneck.
 
2013-07-05 02:25:33 PM

puppetmaster745: What are the odds the perp actually goes by all three of his names? I have a middle name that I don't use, but you'd better believe it will be in the news article if they wanted me to sound like a scary redneck.


I wouldn't take that bet
 
2013-07-06 07:02:30 PM
I am more interested in the line about the  "very well made" Molotov cocktails.Odd to note the quality of their construction, what was it about them that would set them apart?
 
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