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(The Raw Story)   The editors of the Washington Post, Push Me and Pullyu, are finally exposed thanks to the Snowden case   (rawstory.com) divider line 3
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2013-07-05 05:11:40 PM
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gameshowhost: DarnoKonrad: God-is-a-Taco: farking reddit

It's total shiat over there.  Every post on r/news r/worldnews and r/politcs is about the NSA or Snowden.  Most of it dominated by populist libertarian retards.

Can anyone create a subreddit? Because I like that one...


That one already exists. It's called reddit.
2013-07-05 03:52:42 PM
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CitronR: Crotchrocket Slim: The "Team Edward" poster just chaps my ass more than it should for some reason. Does everything have to be a farking joke with GenX/GenY, especially anything political (btw how tired of protest zombies and dudes in Guy Fawkes masks is everyone else? at least don't bite everyone else's references)?

Back when Anonymous was doing its thing at Scientology, and I can't remember the article wherein I read this even though the words stuck with me, a journalist put forth the idea that the constant meme-spouting nonsense was a sort of defacto validation process; if you knew the second half of whatever insane thing someone was saying to you, you were part of things, and could be trusted within the protest.

I feel like the constant jokes also serve that purpose; if you 'get' the joke behind the picture, you can be trusted by whomever is showing it to you. I doubt it's deliberate at all, but I feel like it is sort of working that way.

You are absolutely right that it functions as a sort of "secret code", and not in any conscious way.The form of the internet meme (text with image) is a version of a meme, but not the only form of it.  However, this form is particularly potent in our society because of its ease of distribution through moderm communications and thus is the exemplar of all "memes" for most folks.

The word "meme" is both modelled on the word "gene" and a shortening of the greek mimeme ("imitated thing").  The central idea is that while biology has genes, culture has memes, units of culture that get passed down from generation to generation in a similar fashion to genes.  It's an a established (if new and highhly dubious) field of research called memetics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics .

If you've read any of Scott McCloud's work on comic books (and really, who hasn't?), I think there's something to be said about the power of an image with text.  There's a huge power in being able to conjour up anything you want the veiwer to feel or imagine with an image, then guiding that feeling with text towards the intended emotional and intellectual ending.  As someone (Gaiman?  I forget who, as well as the actual phrasing, so forgive me) said, "You can have great words and it's called literature.  You can have great pictures and it's called art.  But as soon as you put the two of them together, people assume you're dealing with a child's medium."  There's a reason political cartoons have existed since forever and it's because they work for all the above reasons.  If you gave political cartoonists from the 18th century the ability to trade drafts back and forth all day long around the world, they would start to evolve their own injokes and syntax as well, just like modern internet memes.

/Sorry if this makes no sense, this touches on a couple of subjects that are really, really interesting to me and I haven't had time to properly align them before trying to say something in the interest of getting a conversation going.
//I will know it when the waiting is filled and I grok it in full.
2013-07-05 03:01:04 PM
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Crotchrocket Slim: The "Team Edward" poster just chaps my ass more than it should for some reason. Does everything have to be a farking joke with GenX/GenY, especially anything political (btw how tired of protest zombies and dudes in Guy Fawkes masks is everyone else? at least don't bite everyone else's references)?


Back when Anonymous was doing its thing at Scientology, and I can't remember the article wherein I read this even though the words stuck with me, a journalist put forth the idea that the constant meme-spouting nonsense was a sort of defacto validation process; if you knew the second half of whatever insane thing someone was saying to you, you were part of things, and could be trusted within the protest.

I feel like the constant jokes also serve that purpose; if you 'get' the joke behind the picture, you can be trusted by whomever is showing it to you. I doubt it's deliberate at all, but I feel like it is sort of working that way.
 
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