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(The Raw Story)   The editors of the Washington Post, Push Me and Pullyu, are finally exposed thanks to the Snowden case   (rawstory.com) divider line 29
    More: Interesting, Washington Post, David Sirota, President Nixon, Deep Throat, public sphere  
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2013-07-05 12:40:10 PM  
It really just goes to show the nature of highly sensitive information: it's all fine and dandy for you to know it, because you're a responsible entity that won't harm the US, but it's way too dangerous to for someone else to have it, because you can't trust them.

Of course, this is exactly what the US government thought when it classified it, which didn't bother the Post when it asked for it.
 
2013-07-05 01:16:34 PM  
Wow, I've never seen anything like it.

media.jinni.com
 
2013-07-05 01:41:07 PM  

Lorelle: Wow, I've never seen anything like it.

[media.jinni.com image 300x222]


Well, I had avoided singing the song in my head when I read the headline, but so much for that.

/I thought I'd seen every wonder in the world... I made the biggest blunder in the world, 'cause I've never seen anything quite like this.
//as an aside of an aside, Anthony Newley won that movie.
 
2013-07-05 01:50:31 PM  
Citing the Post's famed Watergate investigations, [Salon.com's David Sirota] sees it as "the equivalent of the paper issuing an editorial in 1972 not demanding more information from President Nixon, but instead insisting the Nixon administration's first 'priority should be to prevent Deep Throat from leaking information."

Watergate analogies are the new Hitler analogies.
 
2013-07-05 01:59:20 PM  
www.rawstory.com

farking reddit
 
2013-07-05 02:06:53 PM  
Is it even alleged anyone used this information for anything other than what they've said it is for?
 
2013-07-05 02:07:22 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

farking reddit


le reddit army is here XD

/that Snowden advice animal makes me want to haemhorrage
 
2013-07-05 02:07:32 PM  
Which is to say...it's nothing like Watergate.
 
2013-07-05 02:16:34 PM  
FTA

He contends that the editorial "represents the paper's higher-ups issuing a jeremiad against their own news-generating source and, by extension, the reporters who helped bring his leak into the public sphere."

Citing the Post's famed Watergate investigations, he sees it as "the equivalent of the paper issuing an editorial in 1972 not demanding more information from President Nixon, but instead insisting the Nixon administration's first 'priority should be to prevent Deep Throat from leaking information."


Ron Jeremy's gonna get so hired to do the porno version of this story.

twobitnews.com
 
2013-07-05 02:29:16 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: farking reddit


It's total shiat over there.  Every post on r/news r/worldnews and r/politcs is about the NSA or Snowden.  Most of it dominated by populist libertarian retards.
 
2013-07-05 02:30:16 PM  
At least I'm safe.
 
2013-07-05 02:43:43 PM  

DarnoKonrad: God-is-a-Taco: farking reddit

It's total shiat over there.  Every post on r/news r/worldnews and r/politcs is about the NSA or Snowden.  Most of it dominated by populist libertarian retards.


somehow reddit manages to be consistently worse than Fark

the mind boggles
 
2013-07-05 02:50:34 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

farking reddit


The "Team Edward" poster just chaps my ass more than it should for some reason. Does everything have to be a farking joke with GenX/GenY, especially anything political (btw how tired of protest zombies and dudes in Guy Fawkes masks is everyone else? at least don't bite everyone else's references)?

Granted there's a bit of "stop liking what I don't like" going on here but unless that's a Team Edward James Olmos reference there also is no accounting for taste.
 
2013-07-05 02:51:00 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

farking reddit


I never thought I'd see a 60 year old Asian woman holding a trollface sign. I suppose  someone has to be egging on all the nerds to "be themselves."
 
2013-07-05 02:56:08 PM  
The Post is a known mouthpiece for vested CIA interests.
 
2013-07-05 03:01:04 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: The "Team Edward" poster just chaps my ass more than it should for some reason. Does everything have to be a farking joke with GenX/GenY, especially anything political (btw how tired of protest zombies and dudes in Guy Fawkes masks is everyone else? at least don't bite everyone else's references)?


Back when Anonymous was doing its thing at Scientology, and I can't remember the article wherein I read this even though the words stuck with me, a journalist put forth the idea that the constant meme-spouting nonsense was a sort of defacto validation process; if you knew the second half of whatever insane thing someone was saying to you, you were part of things, and could be trusted within the protest.

I feel like the constant jokes also serve that purpose; if you 'get' the joke behind the picture, you can be trusted by whomever is showing it to you. I doubt it's deliberate at all, but I feel like it is sort of working that way.
 
2013-07-05 03:04:36 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: God-is-a-Taco: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

farking reddit

The "Team Edward" poster just chaps my ass more than it should for some reason. Does everything have to be a farking joke with GenX/GenY, especially anything political (btw how tired of protest zombies and dudes in Guy Fawkes masks is everyone else? at least don't bite everyone else's references)?

Granted there's a bit of "stop liking what I don't like" going on here but unless that's a Team Edward James Olmos reference there also is no accounting for taste.


i1159.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-05 03:08:06 PM  

CitronR: Crotchrocket Slim: The "Team Edward" poster just chaps my ass more than it should for some reason. Does everything have to be a farking joke with GenX/GenY, especially anything political (btw how tired of protest zombies and dudes in Guy Fawkes masks is everyone else? at least don't bite everyone else's references)?

Back when Anonymous was doing its thing at Scientology, and I can't remember the article wherein I read this even though the words stuck with me, a journalist put forth the idea that the constant meme-spouting nonsense was a sort of defacto validation process; if you knew the second half of whatever insane thing someone was saying to you, you were part of things, and could be trusted within the protest.

I feel like the constant jokes also serve that purpose; if you 'get' the joke behind the picture, you can be trusted by whomever is showing it to you. I doubt it's deliberate at all, but I feel like it is sort of working that way.


Jokes once in a while are fine but if we're talking about serious policy here there comes a point where it just makes you look like damn clowns. I'd say leave the comedy to Jon Stewart.
 
2013-07-05 03:11:42 PM  
"Edward Snowden's whistle-blowing activities have not only split America's journalistic community, it appears to have split the Washington Post's staff too."

Zing!
 
2013-07-05 03:42:47 PM  
Really, folks - there is a very simple explanation here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hiatt
 
2013-07-05 03:52:42 PM  

CitronR: Crotchrocket Slim: The "Team Edward" poster just chaps my ass more than it should for some reason. Does everything have to be a farking joke with GenX/GenY, especially anything political (btw how tired of protest zombies and dudes in Guy Fawkes masks is everyone else? at least don't bite everyone else's references)?

Back when Anonymous was doing its thing at Scientology, and I can't remember the article wherein I read this even though the words stuck with me, a journalist put forth the idea that the constant meme-spouting nonsense was a sort of defacto validation process; if you knew the second half of whatever insane thing someone was saying to you, you were part of things, and could be trusted within the protest.

I feel like the constant jokes also serve that purpose; if you 'get' the joke behind the picture, you can be trusted by whomever is showing it to you. I doubt it's deliberate at all, but I feel like it is sort of working that way.

You are absolutely right that it functions as a sort of "secret code", and not in any conscious way.The form of the internet meme (text with image) is a version of a meme, but not the only form of it.  However, this form is particularly potent in our society because of its ease of distribution through moderm communications and thus is the exemplar of all "memes" for most folks.

The word "meme" is both modelled on the word "gene" and a shortening of the greek mimeme ("imitated thing").  The central idea is that while biology has genes, culture has memes, units of culture that get passed down from generation to generation in a similar fashion to genes.  It's an a established (if new and highhly dubious) field of research called memetics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics .

If you've read any of Scott McCloud's work on comic books (and really, who hasn't?), I think there's something to be said about the power of an image with text.  There's a huge power in being able to conjour up anything you want the veiwer to feel or imagine with an image, then guiding that feeling with text towards the intended emotional and intellectual ending.  As someone (Gaiman?  I forget who, as well as the actual phrasing, so forgive me) said, "You can have great words and it's called literature.  You can have great pictures and it's called art.  But as soon as you put the two of them together, people assume you're dealing with a child's medium."  There's a reason political cartoons have existed since forever and it's because they work for all the above reasons.  If you gave political cartoonists from the 18th century the ability to trade drafts back and forth all day long around the world, they would start to evolve their own injokes and syntax as well, just like modern internet memes.

/Sorry if this makes no sense, this touches on a couple of subjects that are really, really interesting to me and I haven't had time to properly align them before trying to say something in the interest of getting a conversation going.
//I will know it when the waiting is filled and I grok it in full.
 
2013-07-05 03:54:42 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

farking reddit


You know, the Restore the 4th thing was supposed to be about restoring the 4th amendment, not about a cult of personality.

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-07-05 04:19:44 PM  

DarnoKonrad: God-is-a-Taco: farking reddit

It's total shiat over there.  Every post on r/news r/worldnews and r/politcs is about the NSA or Snowden.  Most of it dominated by populist libertarian retards.


Can anyone create a subreddit? Because I like that one...
 
2013-07-05 05:11:40 PM  

gameshowhost: DarnoKonrad: God-is-a-Taco: farking reddit

It's total shiat over there.  Every post on r/news r/worldnews and r/politcs is about the NSA or Snowden.  Most of it dominated by populist libertarian retards.

Can anyone create a subreddit? Because I like that one...


That one already exists. It's called reddit.
 
2013-07-05 05:44:29 PM  

Jabberwookiee: gameshowhost: DarnoKonrad: God-is-a-Taco: farking reddit

It's total shiat over there.  Every post on r/news r/worldnews and r/politcs is about the NSA or Snowden.  Most of it dominated by populist libertarian retards.

Can anyone create a subreddit? Because I like that one...

That one already exists. It's called reddit.


You can't really blame them. It's the same radicalization every 15-22 year old goes through during that time.

You can blame them for not doing anything in response to the massive student loan rate increase. NPR estimated it was $1300 over the life of the loan. But I guess they'd rather blow Snowden.

And seriously fark that guy. Had he stayed hidden like Mark Felt, maybe we'd be talking about the spying instead.
 
2013-07-05 05:49:51 PM  

ethernet76: You can't really blame them. It's the same radicalization every 15-22 year old goes through during that time.


Yeah, but the ones who never grow out of it can go fark themselves. Having an echo chamber doesn't help, I suppose.

/in before "fark is an echo chamber too!" nonsense
 
2013-07-05 07:20:22 PM  
"Stopping potentially damaging revelations or the dissemination of intelligence to adversaries should take precedence over US prosecution of Mr Snowden ..."

WashPo's editors are calling for his assassination?
 
2013-07-05 07:28:39 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: "Stopping potentially damaging revelations or the dissemination of intelligence to adversaries should take precedence over US prosecution of Mr Snowden ..."

WashPo's editors are calling for his assassination?


That would be one hell of a euphemism, though I wouldn't be surprised...
 
2013-07-06 01:43:18 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "Stopping potentially damaging revelations or the dissemination of intelligence to adversaries should take precedence over US prosecution of Mr Snowden ..."

WashPo's editors are calling for his assassination?


They would have thought Deep Throat should have been Deep Sixed.

Journalists Against Journalism.
 
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