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2013-07-05 09:15:13 AM  
A Star Is Shorn.
 
2013-07-05 09:36:12 AM  
s.mcstatic.com
Kids... it will grow back!
 
2013-07-05 09:36:43 AM  
Was hoping to see a German speaking sheep herder with an poor sense of facial hair fashion?
 
2013-07-05 09:39:04 AM  
Ms Parker said: "I was devastated when I went to pick her up."

Really? REALLY?? THIS is what devastates you?

Jebus, sugar tits, get over yourself.
 
2013-07-05 09:39:55 AM  
Mistakes were made. Its a dog, get over it.

Thank you.

/Pet owner
//loves animals
///doesn't eat them
////but holy fark, get over it people.
 
2013-07-05 09:43:24 AM  
She says she has put pictures of Star's fur on Facebook and claims other groomers have told her the hair will "never grow back the way it was before - basically she has been ruined, and she is very distressed, very shy."

You know what?  I'm going to take the side of the pet shop.  I have the distinct impression that the dog owner is a liar or a delusional moron.
 
2013-07-05 09:43:51 AM  
That will probably add a year to the life of her vacuum.
 
2013-07-05 09:49:00 AM  
"I was devastated when I went to pick her up."
She says she has put pictures of Star's fur on Facebook and claims other groomers have told her the hair will "never grow back the way it was before - basically she has been ruined, and she is very distressed, very shy."

Oh farking relax. It's just hair and will grow back just fine.And your dog isn't distressed about it. Your dog gives zero farks.
 
2013-07-05 09:49:30 AM  
Since when does a dogs fur not grow back?
"Claims other groomers have told her 'the hair will never grow back the way it was before"
 something tells me this woman doesn't let her big dirty smelly dog into her immaculate house... It got dirty matted and covered in fleas she didn't know about... Plenty of groomers will shave a flea ridden dog to help treatment... We used to do it at the private kennel groomers I worked in hs.
Also...that dog is hardly "shaved"
Nobody's happy in this case....tell them all to get over it, the damn hair will grow back clean and pretty.
 
2013-07-05 09:51:03 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: She says she has put pictures of Star's fur on Facebook and claims other groomers have told her the hair will "never grow back the way it was before - basically she has been ruined, and she is very distressed, very shy."

You know what?  I'm going to take the side of the pet shop.  I have the distinct impression that the dog owner is a liar or a delusional moron.


Same here. The groomer also made a good observation:

She also remarked on the photos of Star's appearance on Ms Parker's Facebook page: "What I would say is, I note there are no before and after pictures."
 
2013-07-05 09:53:09 AM  
I'd shave Lindsey Parker of Plymouth.
 
2013-07-05 09:57:30 AM  
They're wanting a big payout. The dog won't even know it happened tomorrow morning.
 
2013-07-05 09:59:54 AM  
Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.

That said, I think the owner is only telling part of the story. According to the groomer the dog was already in a state that shaving its fur was considered the best option. The fur had dirty flea infested mats in it and there were sores on the skin underneath.

I would be 'devastated' if I left town and my dog was returned in that condition by a pet sitter or kennel.
 
2013-07-05 10:01:46 AM  
If the dog is distressed, it's because of flaky owner. The flea infestation probably isn't helping either.
 
2013-07-05 10:02:26 AM  
"She says she has put pictures of Star's fur on Facebook and claims other groomers have told her the hair will "never grow back the way it was before - basically she has been ruined..."

That opinion might differ depending on the dog.Our lab-mix was shaved around the site of a wound back in the late fall/early winter and his hair still has not all grown back in that spot.
 
2013-07-05 10:03:37 AM  
"Alsatian/German Shepherd"

Ummmm, an Alsatian *is* a German Shepherd.  The Brits called them Alsatians during WWI because they didn't want the dogs associated w/the Kaiser.

And the fur will grow back.  Chill the fark out lady.  I had a long-hair German Shepherd whom I used to get shaved in the Summer & her hair was back to full shedding glory every Fall.

/Got tired of explaining to people that she was a pedigree German Shepherd, just a long-hair version.  Not a GSD/Collie mix and no, goddammit, not a wolf hybrid.  So just told people she was an Alsatian.
//Now have a Great Dane.  When people ask what breed she is--and some do--I tell them German Mastiff.  That's the name the Germans used when they tried to hijack the breed during WWII.
 
2013-07-05 10:06:40 AM  
I am more pissed at the owner for not taking care of a flea infestation.  WTF lady.  And matted fur.  Take care of your dog better next time.
 
2013-07-05 10:11:05 AM  
I'm not seeing the sores the groomer claims to have exposed, either.
 
2013-07-05 10:15:26 AM  
On the plus side, the incident didn't reach the level of problems it could have had the woman asked to have her "cat" shaved.
 
2013-07-05 10:20:21 AM  
I had to shave my chocolate Lab after he had an allergic reaction to a medication and got some eczema, which he chewed at and made into wounds. Too hard to get to the wounds through all that greasy Lab fur to treat them, so we had the groomer shave him, like a military buzz cut. His fur came back in exactly the same as it was before and came in within two months. Get over it!
 
2013-07-05 10:23:30 AM  
As the owner of a grooming shop, I'm getting a kick out of these replies. Seriously, if a bath and brush only, could be preformed, that's what they would've done. It's less work and still a bit of money for a large hairy dog like a Shepherd. It sounds like the dog was matted to the skin. It couldn't be brushed out. It'd be like brushing out dreadlocks. Impossible. It sounds like it was that way awhile too. Sores developed underneath it. The groomer knew the lady was a nutcase and even saved the flea ridden pelt to show her. If this lady gives such a giant shiat about her dog's hair maybe she should comb it occasionally? She got a free farking groom. A job I imagine was very difficult. Like shaving a spazzy sheep. That's an extortion payoff but it wasn't enough Miss Social Media. She needed further victimhood. I'm always amazed at people who cry about their matted dogs being shaved. They swear it wasn't matted. Do they ever pet their dogs? How do you not know your dog has fleas?

/My MIL secretly gave my kid his 2 "first" haircuts

//Didn't upset me nearly as much as some of our customers get after a medically necessary shavedown
 
2013-07-05 10:26:26 AM  

nonsequitor: Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.


I find that hard to believe.   It's still hair.  I can believe that a dog with an undercoat would look very strange as the fur is growing back, because the coarser, longer guard hairs have longer to grow to get back to normal, but I don't see why it wouldn't eventually all grow back.

Can you explain?
 
2013-07-05 10:47:28 AM  
Any owner of a long haired dog that lives in a hot climate can easily attest to the fact that dog fur will grow back and be just fine.  People shave their dogs and cats all the time, either due to heat, vanity, treating skin diseases or fleas or for surgery.
 
2013-07-05 11:00:19 AM  
I read that as "half-STARVED" and then I had a sad.  Now I has a LOL.


FSTFKL: nonsequitor: Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.

I find that hard to believe.   It's still hair.  I can believe that a dog with an undercoat would look very strange as the fur is growing back, because the coarser, longer guard hairs have longer to grow to get back to normal, but I don't see why it wouldn't eventually all grow back.

Can you explain?


Yeah...as a Shih-Tzu owner, I have some trouble with that statement, as well.  2 months after any shave, my dog's a friggin rag-mop again.
 
2013-07-05 11:01:40 AM  

brigid_fitch: //Now have a Great Dane. When people ask what breed she is--and some do--I tell them German Mastiff. That's the name the Germans used when they tried to hijack the breed during WWII.


Looking for an apartment with a Great Dane was always a challenge (when I rented and had a Dane).  Some landlords simply would not allow a Great Dane or other known large breeds to stay there...no question.  So I always told them I had a Boarhound. Then when I came to look at the place they would just fall in love with her (as she would try to sit in their lap) and practically beg me to stay at their apt.


/RIP Dasiyduke:  It's been 3 months and I still expect her to greet me at the door : (
 
2013-07-05 11:02:31 AM  

SpectroBoy: [s.mcstatic.com image 640x360]
Kids... it will grow back!


What movie is that? Dan Ackroyd, Tom Hanks... Looks like it would be good.
 
2013-07-05 11:07:12 AM  

Gabrielmot: SpectroBoy: [s.mcstatic.com image 640x360]
Kids... it will grow back!

What movie is that? Dan Ackroyd, Tom Hanks... Looks like it would be good.


And you would be very mistaken.  It's Dragnet and it's awful.
 
2013-07-05 11:08:10 AM  
Usually if the dog has a double coat it takes a full year for it to grow back properly.  The only thing that would cause it to "never be the same" is if there was wounds and scarring on the skin.  Sounds like this is the case and the biatchy owner should have probably cared a little more about her dog pre-groom.
 
2013-07-05 11:08:59 AM  
Brazilian
 
2013-07-05 11:14:17 AM  
I have a beautiful German shepherd biatch that was born and raised as an outdoor dog in Minnesota. We live in Arizona now, but she still doesn't trust the weather. If she comes in the house and the air conditioner is on, she can have a full winter coat grown in twenty minutes flat.
 
2013-07-05 11:16:00 AM  

2KanZam: brigid_fitch: //Now have a Great Dane. When people ask what breed she is--and some do--I tell them German Mastiff. That's the name the Germans used when they tried to hijack the breed during WWII.

Looking for an apartment with a Great Dane was always a challenge (when I rented and had a Dane).  Some landlords simply would not allow a Great Dane or other known large breeds to stay there...no question.  So I always told them I had a Boarhound. Then when I came to look at the place they would just fall in love with her (as she would try to sit in their lap) and practically beg me to stay at their apt.


/RIP Dasiyduke:  It's been 3 months and I still expect her to greet me at the door : (


Sorry for your loss.  I adopted my first Great Dane 5 years ago.  A law student had bought her as a puppy from a breeder and had her all through college in FL.  When she was accepted to law school in DC, she rented an apartment and made sure they allowed dogs.  But when the landlord saw her 160-lb. Great Dane, he told her he allowed dogs, not horses, and told her the dog couldn't stay.   So, the poor girl had to give up her dog.  Lousy thing for the landlord to do but I got an amazing Great Dane and sent the owner periodic updates & pictures.   Perfect Great Dane, right up until her last day when she succumbed to kidney failure at 8 years.

/RIP Justice.
//Got a new Great Dane through a co-worker back in November.  10-mo puppy that some asshole was keeping in his backyard w/no shelter.   Didn't pay any attention to her & just put out food & water in the morning.  8 months later, and we're STILL trying to reign in a rambunctious, unsocialized, untrained, 120-lb. puppy.
 
2013-07-05 11:16:28 AM  
Used to shave my golden retriever every may, but then she started getting bullied at school. The mean girls (you know they type... the Baileys and Missys and Princesses) wouldn't invite her to sleep overs and she started spending more and more time in her room. I took her to see a counselor and then I thought, oh crap, she's a dog, she eats cat poop and she's scared of bubble wrap.

/hair always grew back
/I miss that stupid dog
 
2013-07-05 11:16:28 AM  

brigid_fitch: Gabrielmot: SpectroBoy: [s.mcstatic.com image 640x360]
Kids... it will grow back!

What movie is that? Dan Ackroyd, Tom Hanks... Looks like it would be good.

And you would be very mistaken.  It's Dragnet and it's awful.


To be fair, it's SO awful that it's awesome.

"Listen, hotshot. I'm gonna tell you something right now. I don't care for you or for the putrid sludge you're troweling out. But until they change the laws and put you sleaze kings out of business, my job is to help you get back your stench ridden boxes of smut. And since I'll be doing it holding my nose, I'll be doing it with one hand."
 
2013-07-05 11:29:00 AM  
FSTFKL: Basically a double coated dog has shorter, fluffier undercoat hair that grows back (usually quickly). They also have a guard hair that is longer and more difficult to grow back. The older the animal, the more difficult it is for it to grow back so you end up with a patchy, ugly-furred dog that's robbed of it's natural insulation (from heat and cold) and protection from UV.

Sometimes there is not choice but to shave (matted to the skin fur), but shaving as a means of cooling doesn't help, it hinders. (In a double coated dog)

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2013-07-05 11:32:37 AM  

brigid_fitch: /RIP Justice.


Was Justice blind?

Now reading the comments on the article, I'm not sure who to believe.  Some of the commenters were saying the groomer was unregistered and that there were before pictures on the owner's facebook, and I don't see any sores in the picture in the article.
 
2013-07-05 11:36:32 AM  
I'm with the groomer. They don't go shaving animals willy-nilly, and I can totally see dog owners being in complete denial over what exactly it takes to make matted hair go away (and the damage it can do to the skin underneath). Yeah, I can see her denying that she neglected a medium-haired animal long enough for that to happen.

/oh, and there are no 'before' pictures
 
2013-07-05 11:40:08 AM  
Pfft. Like I'm only gonna see one...
 
2013-07-05 11:42:30 AM  

FSTFKL: nonsequitor: Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.

I find that hard to believe.   It's still hair.  I can believe that a dog with an undercoat would look very strange as the fur is growing back, because the coarser, longer guard hairs have longer to grow to get back to normal, but I don't see why it wouldn't eventually all grow back.

Can you explain?


It could grow back in different directions than it came in at prior to shaving, but that can be avoided by gently brushing the animal for a few minutes once a day.

/whattaya know, she could have avoided this entire fiasco with that method
 
2013-07-05 11:46:11 AM  

nonsequitor: Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.


Yeah, not so much. Our collie had some surgery last year and had half of his left flank shaved...it grew back, both undergrowth and guard hairs, just fine. If you were to look at him now, you wouldn't be able to tell which side was shaved.
 
2013-07-05 12:36:59 PM  
I am a dog groomer. Double coated dogs like German Shepherds and Huskies and the like, have fur. There are beautiful shiny colorful guard hairs the you see as the outer coat. It takes many years for these hairs to grow. Then there is the dull, fuzzy, gray undercoat that is constantly growing and shedding. When you shave the coat off, your beautiful glistening black and tan dog becomes flat dull and gray and may never recover because you won't be able to stand looking at it's blotchy fuzzy unevenly growing coat making it look sickly and mangey for 3 or 4 years.
I refuse to shave these breeds just because the owner is "tired of all the shedding". However, if the owner has neglected them to the point where the matting cannot be brushed out, and it is covered in sores underneath because it's skin hasn't had air on it in months and the fleas are thriving, I will, only when medically necessary... But not without written permission because I've seen the look of horror on every pet parents face when they come to pick up their freshly shaved double coated dog. Many don't even recognize their own dog at first and wonder why they strange dog is so glad to see them. Then comes the walk of shame back home and around the neighborhood with their bright idea and as the story gets told outside the salon, the groomer gets blamed. So, this story is not unique. Not at all. My best advice to the groomer: "Get written permission before you shave", my best advice to dog owners who don't want a shaved dog: "Brush your dog".
 
2013-07-05 12:41:53 PM  
It seems to me that the comments typically fall into people picking sides.

Well, for once, I'll pick a side.

I am with Highroller48, Dragnet is so bad it is good.

Who gives a rip about the dog hair.  If it doesn't grow back, you have the proof of those sores.
 
2013-07-05 01:05:09 PM  

Ranger Joe: nonsequitor: Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.

Yeah, not so much. Our collie had some surgery last year and had half of his left flank shaved...it grew back, both undergrowth and guard hairs, just fine. If you were to look at him now, you wouldn't be able to tell which side was shaved.


My husky has had patches shaved off on occasion (sand flea infestation from a camping trip, etc) and hoooo boy do the shaved parts look silly. She's generally all back to normal by the next coat cycle in the spring or fall.

Her hair is so thick they needed a fresh set of blades on the clipper after just shaving her chest.
 
2013-07-05 01:05:28 PM  
Headlines like these make me ruefully miss RugbyJock sometimes...

Still wouldn't have clicked his link, but it's good to know he's there...
 
2013-07-05 01:10:23 PM  
"Claims other groomers have told her 'the hair will never grow back the way it was before"

I'd like said groomers to make such claims on the record.  My ex-GF's cats had their bellies shaved for sonograms, and the fur came back normally.  It was pretty cool to see that the color of the skin matched the color of the fur, and you could see their little belly buttons, something you typically don't think about with a pet.

Now, I'm sure one cat was laughing at the other when he got home from the vet, but the first got his revenge when the 2nd had the same procedure.

/Yes, my ex-GF was absolutely insane about her cats.  Probably spent $10K or more on them, certainly enough to postpone buying a new car or a home for quite awhile.
 
2013-07-05 01:44:11 PM  

Highroller48: brigid_fitch: Gabrielmot: SpectroBoy: [s.mcstatic.com image 640x360]
Kids... it will grow back!

What movie is that? Dan Ackroyd, Tom Hanks... Looks like it would be good.

And you would be very mistaken.  It's Dragnet and it's awful.

To be fair, it's SO awful that it's awesome.

"Listen, hotshot. I'm gonna tell you something right now. I don't care for you or for the putrid sludge you're troweling out. But until they change the laws and put you sleaze kings out of business, my job is to help you get back your stench ridden boxes of smut. And since I'll be doing it holding my nose, I'll be doing it with one hand."


Lookout!  Muppets!
 
2013-07-05 02:46:54 PM  
The owner really needs to get a life.  That being said, the fur probably will not grow back the same way it was before the shaving.  I adopted an older dog and had her fixed.  The fur never grew back where they shaved her.  I don't think my dog cares.  It's not the end of the world.
 
2013-07-05 02:49:44 PM  

nonsequitor: Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.

That said, I think the owner is only telling part of the story. According to the groomer the dog was already in a state that shaving its fur was considered the best option. The fur had dirty flea infested mats in it and there were sores on the skin underneath.

I would be 'devastated' if I left town and my dog was returned in that condition by a pet sitter or kennel.


Incorrect.  Fur IS hair, and grows back exactly like it was before.   That's an old wive's tale.
 
2013-07-05 03:12:51 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Her hair is so thick they needed a fresh set of blades on the clipper after just shaving her chest.


But enough about your mother, what about your dog?

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2013-07-05 05:47:13 PM  

nonsequitor: Fur, unlike hair, does not grow back the same as it was after being shaved.

That said, I think the owner is only telling part of the story. According to the groomer the dog was already in a state that shaving its fur was considered the best option. The fur had dirty flea infested mats in it and there were sores on the skin underneath.

I would be 'devastated' if I left town and my dog was returned in that condition by a pet sitter or kennel.


I shaved my rottie's hind end and it grew back just fine. Just like other dogs, mine has fur and not "hair" so it does in fact grow back the same. Considering how much they shed and replace they probably have even less issues with growth than we do as humans.
 
2013-07-05 05:55:01 PM  

Sobrrr: I am a dog groomer. Double coated dogs like German Shepherds and Huskies and the like, have fur. There are beautiful shiny colorful guard hairs the you see as the outer coat. It takes many years for these hairs to grow. Then there is the dull, fuzzy, gray undercoat that is constantly growing and shedding. When you shave the coat off, your beautiful glistening black and tan dog becomes flat dull and gray and may never recover because you won't be able to stand looking at it's blotchy fuzzy unevenly growing coat making it look sickly and mangey for 3 or 4 years.
I refuse to shave these breeds just because the owner is "tired of all the shedding". However, if the owner has neglected them to the point where the matting cannot be brushed out, and it is covered in sores underneath because it's skin hasn't had air on it in months and the fleas are thriving, I will, only when medically necessary... But not without written permission because I've seen the look of horror on every pet parents face when they come to pick up their freshly shaved double coated dog. Many don't even recognize their own dog at first and wonder why they strange dog is so glad to see them. Then comes the walk of shame back home and around the neighborhood with their bright idea and as the story gets told outside the salon, the groomer gets blamed. So, this story is not unique. Not at all. My best advice to the groomer: "Get written permission before you shave", my best advice to dog owners who don't want a shaved dog: "Brush your dog".



I must have the only dog in the world that doesn't do what you expertly claim. My personal experience was that it only took a couple of months for all of his coat to grow back, even the fancy guard hairs. Perhaps it's because I take really good care of my animals and feed them good quality foods, groom them myself regularly, etc.

/now I want to shave the other one to experiment.
 
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