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(Huffington Post)   Texans don't want Rick Perry to run for president again. FARK: They want Ted Cruz   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 117
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2013-07-05 02:45:16 AM  
That poll sounds ... skewed.
 
2013-07-05 09:30:17 AM  
I think he should run again, and Texas should secede from the US if he wins.
 
2013-07-05 09:32:48 AM  
Try it, Canada Boy.
 
2013-07-05 09:32:57 AM  
Well, even if you think like Perry and like him, he's kind of a buffoon.

Cruz, on the other hand, is no dummy.  He's playing Teabaggers like a symphony.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why, and I truly have to wonder if it's about ideology at all.
 
2013-07-05 09:34:27 AM  
A Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey released Wednesday finds that are more interested in seeing Sen. Ted Cruz (R) run than a Perry redux. Of 500 registered voters asked, including 318 Republicans, 27 percent selected Cruz as their top choice, followed by 15 percent for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and 11 percent for current Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R).

Christ, these people are stupid.
 
2013-07-05 09:35:04 AM  
oh, the quotes.  we'll roll in TC's quotes like my dog rolling in the stank of a dead carp
 
2013-07-05 09:36:56 AM  
I will laugh my ass off if the rugged, bootstrappy Texans reject native son Rick Perry in favor of Canadian-born Ted Cruz.
 
2013-07-05 09:37:55 AM  
I don't think I have a big enough popcorn bucket for that to happen.

I might as well just order one of those machines..
 
2013-07-05 09:39:28 AM  

qorkfiend: I will laugh my ass off if the rugged, bootstrappy Texans reject native son Rick Perry in favor of Canadian-born Ted Cruz.


This. And what real Tejanos would vote for a Lipton flavored Cuban aristocrat anyway.
 
2013-07-05 09:40:07 AM  

Diogenes: Well, even if you think like Perry and like him, he's kind of a buffoon.

Cruz, on the other hand, is no dummy.  He's playing Teabaggers like a symphony.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why, and I truly have to wonder if it's about ideology at all.


If he were that clever, one would think that he'd realize the window for that strategy is rapidly closing and would try something else.

/his strategy will work for a few more election cycles if he stays in Texas
//but nationally?
 
2013-07-05 09:41:07 AM  
Wher birt cert, wher... oh, wait... He is one of ours.
 
2013-07-05 09:42:35 AM  

TwoBeersOneCan: Diogenes: Well, even if you think like Perry and like him, he's kind of a buffoon.

Cruz, on the other hand, is no dummy.  He's playing Teabaggers like a symphony.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why, and I truly have to wonder if it's about ideology at all.

If he were that clever, one would think that he'd realize the window for that strategy is rapidly closing and would try something else.

/his strategy will work for a few more election cycles if he stays in Texas
//but nationally?


You have more faith in us than I do.
 
2013-07-05 09:42:39 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: A Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey released Wednesday finds that are more interested in seeing Sen. Ted Cruz (R) run than a Perry redux. Of 500 registered voters asked, including 318 Republicans, 27 percent selected Cruz as their top choice, followed by 15 percent for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and 11 percent for current Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R).

Christ, these people are stupid.


That's not terribly different than what you'd see from any poll of 500 people, where over 60% of them are Republicans.  They may pick their own local label of stupid instead of Cruz, but those are the (R) candidates you'll get in just about any state.
 
2013-07-05 09:44:26 AM  

Diogenes: Well, even if you think like Perry and like him, he's kind of a buffoon.

Cruz, on the other hand, is no dummy.  He's playing Teabaggers like a symphony.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why, and I truly have to wonder if it's about ideology at all.


But that means he also knows the limits to this shtick, and the White House is out of the question.
 
2013-07-05 09:44:33 AM  
Oh please oh please oh please...
 
2013-07-05 09:44:59 AM  
Is it possible for a whole state to be trolling without realizing it.   Jeb Bush?  Really?!?!?!
 
2013-07-05 09:46:49 AM  

qorkfiend: I will laugh my ass off if the rugged, bootstrappy Texans reject native son Rick Perry in favor of Canadian-born Ted Cruz.



Is Canadian any worse than a blue blooded Yale educated former cheerleader from Kennebunkport?
 
2013-07-05 09:49:06 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: A Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey released Wednesday finds that are more interested in seeing Sen. Ted Cruz (R) run than a Perry redux. Of 500 registered voters asked, including 318 Republicans, 27 percent selected Cruz as their top choice, followed by 15 percent for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and 11 percent for current Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R).

Christ, these people are stupid.


The bullet point in this is that the biggest single Republican primary and electoral-vote jackpot has the nationally well-established Christie down at the 'meh...' level.
 
2013-07-05 09:49:18 AM  
If I was part of this survey, I'd say Cruz was my top choice to run for President as well.  Not to be President, just to run.

For the lolz and to guarantee a massive Democratic victory.
 
2013-07-05 09:49:58 AM  
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2013-07-05 09:50:37 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Diogenes: Well, even if you think like Perry and like him, he's kind of a buffoon.

Cruz, on the other hand, is no dummy.  He's playing Teabaggers like a symphony.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why, and I truly have to wonder if it's about ideology at all.

But that means he also knows the limits to this shtick, and the White House is out of the question.


I should add that he will indeed run to increase his derp profile and sell whatever shiatty book (likely with some play on the word "Cruising" in the title) he's bound to release just prior to the announcement.
 
2013-07-05 09:51:55 AM  

Whiskey Pete: [i1162.photobucket.com image 660x371]


Can't wait to see that kid goosestepping in the street for "freedom".
 
2013-07-05 09:52:13 AM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: The bullet point in this is that the biggest single Republican primary and electoral-vote jackpot has the nationally well-established Christie down at the 'meh...' level.


2016 Republican primaries will be the same as 2012; massive derpfest that will sink any legitimate candidate.
 
2013-07-05 09:52:33 AM  

Khellendros: Philip Francis Queeg: A Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey released Wednesday finds that are more interested in seeing Sen. Ted Cruz (R) run than a Perry redux. Of 500 registered voters asked, including 318 Republicans, 27 percent selected Cruz as their top choice, followed by 15 percent for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and 11 percent for current Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R).

Christ, these people are stupid.

That's not terribly different than what you'd see from any poll of 500 people, where over 60% of them are Republicans.  They may pick their own local label of stupid instead of Cruz, but those are the (R) candidates you'll get in just about any state.


I'm surprised that Rick Santorum doesn't appear on the list.  Isn't he the Kwisatz Haderach for the 2016 go-around?  He was the more-conservative-candidate in 2012, and since the GOP lost, the only possible solution is "more conservative candidates!!!".
 
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2013-07-05 09:53:48 AM  
knock yourself out cruz.
 
2013-07-05 09:55:02 AM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: The bullet point in this is that the biggest single Republican primary and electoral-vote jackpot has the nationally well-established Christie down at the 'meh...' level.


"Crazy" polls even with "electable".

Ladies and germs, the modern GOP!
 
2013-07-05 09:55:06 AM  
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Texans want the gay Hispanic guy to run, I'm really confused.
 
2013-07-05 09:55:18 AM  

Third Day Mark: Try it, Canada Boy.


You say that like he got some of it to stick.
 
2013-07-05 09:55:49 AM  

Rixel: Is it possible for a whole state to be trolling without realizing it.   Jeb Bush?  Really?!?!?!


It's far more likely than most people think.

One, he's completely tapped in to the establishment - donors, staff, everything - plus his family connections.
Two, he's managed to stay almost completely out of the madness that's infected the GOP in recent years, and won't be tarnished by association.
Three, he's got massive, nationwide name recognition.
Four, he's got strong, actual links to the Hispanic community from his days as governor. Additionally, as ex-governor, he's got a massive built-in advantage in Florida.
Five, he actually seems to be fairly smart.
SIx, the Bush name will not be as much of an anchor as people seem to think; George W. has stayed almost entirely out of sight, there is a wide perception (deserved or not) that Obama has continued many of George W.'s policies, and - as I'm sure Jeb will point out, repeatedly - he is not George W. Bush. If there's anything that 2004 and 2012 taught us, you can't run an election by saying "I'm not that guy" or "He's that guy"; you must articulate your own vision and platform.

Out of the serious GOP candidates for 2016, Jeb Bush is probably the single most dangerous opponent for the Democrats. Do not underestimate him.
 
2013-07-05 09:56:33 AM  

hugram: Wher birt cert, wher... oh, wait... He is one of ours.


I would love to hear them explain about how the son of a foreign-born father and a native-born mother who came into this world in another country is quite certainly a citizen.

Of course, the answer will be "it's not the crime it's the coverup." You know: they never said Obama WASN'T a citizen, they just expressed concern because he refused to admit that he was born in Kenya and is still lying about it.

/for the record, Cruz is a natural born citizen by virtue of his mother's citizenship.
 
2013-07-05 09:57:27 AM  
Do eet.

Your problem is that your candidates are too moderate.

Do eeeeeeeet.
 
2013-07-05 09:58:05 AM  
Apparently Texas still hasn't reached Peak Derp.
 
2013-07-05 10:00:08 AM  

qorkfiend: Rixel: Is it possible for a whole state to be trolling without realizing it.   Jeb Bush?  Really?!?!?!

It's far more likely than most people think.

One, he's completely tapped in to the establishment - donors, staff, everything - plus his family connections.
Two, he's managed to stay almost completely out of the madness that's infected the GOP in recent years, and won't be tarnished by association.
Three, he's got massive, nationwide name recognition.
Four, he's got strong, actual links to the Hispanic community from his days as governor. Additionally, as ex-governor, he's got a massive built-in advantage in Florida.
Five, he actually seems to be fairly smart.
SIx, the Bush name will not be as much of an anchor as people seem to think; George W. has stayed almost entirely out of sight, there is a wide perception (deserved or not) that Obama has continued many of George W.'s policies, and - as I'm sure Jeb will point out, repeatedly - he is not George W. Bush. If there's anything that 2004 and 2012 taught us, you can't run an election by saying "I'm not that guy" or "He's that guy"; you must articulate your own vision and platform.

Out of the serious GOP candidates for 2016, Jeb Bush is probably the single most dangerous opponent for the Democrats. Do not underestimate him.


So what you're saying is that the last eight years of teabagger derpfest was actually a coordinated and planned effort by the Bush family to realign politically and open an opportunity for Jeb Bush to run for President?

Good, because that makes a hell of a lot more sense than the frightening idea that these teabagger morons rose to their political positions because of the ignorance, racism, and stupidity of the American population.  I'm going to go with your observation, add a strong level of diabolical political machination, and call it a day!

/Nobody crosses Laura Bush
//You ever see Reservoir Dogs?
 
2013-07-05 10:00:26 AM  

qorkfiend: Out of the serious GOP candidates for 2016, Jeb Bush is probably the single most dangerous opponent for the Democrats. Do not underestimate him.


Is it okay if I misunderestimate him?
 
2013-07-05 10:00:34 AM  
Genuinely opened that article and this is the only thing I see:

Rick Perry 2016 Run Opposed By 74 Percent of Texans, PPP Poll finds

Oops!

Video unavailable due to location

I know it's the standard message but still, well played Huffington Post, very well played
 
2013-07-05 10:00:44 AM  
Please, GOP, can you stop being retarded and crazy so the Democrats can't get a unified government?
 
2013-07-05 10:03:53 AM  
Oh please do it.

/Texans: The only persons consistently more wrong than neocons.
 
2013-07-05 10:05:00 AM  

qorkfiend: If there's anything that 2004 and 2012 taught us, you can't run an election by saying "I'm not that guy" or "He's that guy"; you must articulate your own vision and platform.


It taught us no such thing.  In 2004 and 2012 the guys in office were inexplicably popular with > 50% of the country.

It also taught us that lifeless flip-flopping androids from Massachusetts can't win elections.
 
2013-07-05 10:06:15 AM  

hugram: Wher birt cert, wher... oh, wait... He is one of ours.


Lets see what the "experts" have to say:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3022115/posts?


/Derp.
 
2013-07-05 10:08:32 AM  

born_yesterday: So what you're saying is that the last eight years of teabagger derpfest was actually a coordinated and planned effort by the Bush family to realign politically and open an opportunity for Jeb Bush to run for President?


Nah, I don't think it was deliberately coordinated or planned by the Bushes; I just think that Jeb saw where it was going way back when and made the decision to stay out of it (not being a serving public official not having to run for anything where he'd have to deal directly with the Teabaggers made it much easier than it would have been, of course) and as a result, Jeb is now very well-positioned to take advantage of the current political dynamic where almost everybody is hoping for a sane Republican to emerge. The establishment will be happy because he's one of them, the base will probably be happy because he's a Real Conservative, moderates and independents will be happy because he's not bonkers, Democrats will have their own version of Bush fatigue to contend with...
 
2013-07-05 10:09:07 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: Diogenes: Well, even if you think like Perry and like him, he's kind of a buffoon.

Cruz, on the other hand, is no dummy.  He's playing Teabaggers like a symphony.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why, and I truly have to wonder if it's about ideology at all.

But that means he also knows the limits to this shtick, and the White House is out of the question.

I should add that he will indeed run to increase his derp profile and sell whatever shiatty book (likely with some play on the word "Cruising" in the title) he's bound to release just prior to the announcement.


I got $20 on "Cruz Control".  I know that sounds rather dark and foreboding, but he's a Republican.  "Deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican..." etc, etc.
 
2013-07-05 10:09:10 AM  

Granny_Panties: [www.wbez.org image 368x512]
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Texans want the gay Hispanic guy to run, I'm really confused.


That's the pastiest, doughiest Hispanic I've ever seen, So a PERFECT Republican.
 
2013-07-05 10:12:09 AM  

BMFPitt: In 2004 and 2012 the guys in office were inexplicably popular with > 50% of the country.


As much as Obama has failed to deliver as POTUS, the economy  has improved quite a bit from the mess Dubya left it in.  I don't think it's unfair to assume that Obama captured the majority vote based on his steering us out of the recession, despite every attempt by the GOP to drag us back into it.

And Bush won in '04 because of 9/11.  Had 9/11 never happened, he would have had to actually present a reason for why he should be re-elected, instead of running attack ads saying that the decorated war veteran cannot keep us safe, and it's better to stick with the pretend cowboy who was asleep at the switch when the attack happened in the first place.
 
2013-07-05 10:13:06 AM  

Third Day Mark: Try it, Canada Boy.


Remember we are talking Texans here, they really don't feel rules apply to them with the added bonus they believe the current POTUS is from Kenya.
 
2013-07-05 10:13:31 AM  

qorkfiend: born_yesterday: So what you're saying is that the last eight years of teabagger derpfest was actually a coordinated and planned effort by the Bush family to realign politically and open an opportunity for Jeb Bush to run for President?

Nah, I don't think it was deliberately coordinated or planned by the Bushes; I just think that Jeb saw where it was going way back when and made the decision to stay out of it (not being a serving public official not having to run for anything where he'd have to deal directly with the Teabaggers made it much easier than it would have been, of course) and as a result, Jeb is now very well-positioned to take advantage of the current political dynamic where almost everybody is hoping for a sane Republican to emerge. The establishment will be happy because he's one of them, the base will probably be happy because he's a Real Conservative, moderates and independents will be happy because he's not bonkers, Democrats will have their own version of Bush fatigue to contend with...


I meant for that part to be a joke, and I agree with your observation.  Especially in light of the fact that Jeb was always supposed to be the one that ran for (and won) the Presidency.
 
2013-07-05 10:16:08 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: HotWingConspiracy: Diogenes: Well, even if you think like Perry and like him, he's kind of a buffoon.

Cruz, on the other hand, is no dummy.  He's playing Teabaggers like a symphony.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why, and I truly have to wonder if it's about ideology at all.

But that means he also knows the limits to this shtick, and the White House is out of the question.

I should add that he will indeed run to increase his derp profile and sell whatever shiatty book (likely with some play on the word "Cruising" in the title) he's bound to release just prior to the announcement.



Coming in 2016
Rogue Cruising
-For the First Time, For the Last Time, For Reals!
 
2013-07-05 10:16:21 AM  

BMFPitt: Please, GOP, can you stop being retarded and crazy so the Democrats can't get a unified government?


The Democrats unified? I don't think you'll ever have to worry about that.
 
2013-07-05 10:16:39 AM  

Granny_Panties: [www.wbez.org image 368x512]
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Texans want the gay Hispanic guy to run, I'm really confused.


Shot 1 definitely has either a latter-day Liberace vibe, or singles bar sleazy stupid pickup line guy.
 
2013-07-05 10:17:30 AM  

qorkfiend: Two, he's managed to stay almost completely out of the madness that's infected the GOP in recent years, and won't be tarnished by association.
Three, he's got massive, nationwide name recognition.


His massive, nationwide name recognition is what tarnishes him by association.
 
2013-07-05 10:20:21 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: As much as Obama has failed to deliver as POTUS, the economy  has improved quite a bit from the mess Dubya left it in.


Any improvements made have been in spite of him, not because of him.

I don't think it's unfair to assume that Obama captured the majority vote based on his steering us out of the recession, despite every attempt by the GOP to drag us back into it.

Mitt Romney ran against him.  That may have had something to do with it.

And Bush won in '04 because of 9/11.  Had 9/11 never happened, he would have had to actually present a reason for why he should be re-elected, instead of running attack ads saying that the decorated war veteran cannot keep us safe, and it's better to stick with the pretend cowboy who was asleep at the switch when the attack happened in the first place.

He wasn't reelected in 2002.  Basically anyone but Kerry should have beat him.
 
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