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2013-07-04 06:26:23 PM
On this Independence Day we celebrate our freedom and also look toward North Korea's tyrannical oppression:

In NK the government operates a massive spying apparatus that monitors all its citizens' activities and communications, while in the US... wait, scratch that.

In NK citizens can be indefinitely detained, tortured, and executed without trial, while in the US... okay, we'll start over.

In NK the government and their cronies are unaccountable for their actions, no matter how criminal or how much suffering they cause ordinary citizens, while in the US... this isn't going where we want it.

In NK the media act as lapdogs for the government and unquestioningly echoes talking points handed to them by officials, while in the US...
 
2013-07-04 06:38:20 PM

berylman: NK is not hardly as farked up as everyone seems to portray it. Not a wonderful place but it has stuff going for it.


"A police state is awesome, as long as you're the police."
 
2013-07-04 06:58:26 PM

berylman: NK is not hardly as farked up as everyone seems to portray it. Not a wonderful place but it has stuff going for it.


Feel free to post updated night-time sat pics.
 
2013-07-04 07:11:08 PM

Snark Shark II: berylman: NK is not hardly as farked up as everyone seems to portray it. Not a wonderful place but it has stuff going for it.

Supercampion: berylman: NK is not hardly as farked up as everyone seems to portray it. Not a wonderful place but it has stuff going for it.

2/10

more like -20/10


It does beat a lot of sub-saharan African regions. NK has that 1984 vibe so it laps up a lot of attention on the internets.
 
2013-07-04 07:17:00 PM

Abox: I'm just gonna say it.  Our people could stand to be better behaved and better educated.


motores.com.py
 
2013-07-04 07:20:19 PM

El Pachuco: On this Independence Day we celebrate our freedom and also look toward North Korea's tyrannical oppression:

In NK the government operates a massive spying apparatus that monitors all its citizens' activities and communications, while in the US... wait, scratch that.

In NK citizens can be indefinitely detained, tortured, and executed without trial, while in the US... okay, we'll start over.

In NK the government and their cronies are unaccountable for their actions, no matter how criminal or how much suffering they cause ordinary citizens, while in the US... this isn't going where we want it.

In NK the media act as lapdogs for the government and unquestioningly echoes talking points handed to them by officials, while in the US...


i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-07-04 07:21:13 PM
Here at home we'll play in the city
Powered by the sun
Perfect weather for a streamlined world
There'll be spandex jackets one for everyone

A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision
We'll be clean when their work is done
We'll be eternally free yes and eternally young

What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-04 07:21:49 PM

El Pachuco: On this Independence Day we celebrate our freedom and also look toward North Korea's tyrannical oppression:

In NK the government operates a massive spying apparatus that monitors all its citizens' activities and communications, while in the US... wait, scratch that.

In NK citizens can be indefinitely detained, tortured, and executed without trial, while in the US... okay, we'll start over.

In NK the government and their cronies are unaccountable for their actions, no matter how criminal or how much suffering they cause ordinary citizens, while in the US... this isn't going where we want it.

In NK the media act as lapdogs for the government and unquestioningly echoes talking points handed to them by officials, while in the US...


Take notes berylman. This is how it's done.
 
2013-07-04 07:28:01 PM
lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-07-04 07:38:06 PM
Gosh, if I could only speak the language I'd live there - lookit all the neat stuff they have.
 
2013-07-04 08:02:02 PM

Koodz: Always amazing. There always appears to be too much infrastructure for the amount of people there. I know the history, but something in the back of my mind always screams, "Where did the people who built all that stuff go?"


You don't think the foundations of those buildings are made of concrete, do you?
 
2013-07-04 08:07:23 PM
In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith
 
2013-07-04 08:59:18 PM

mootmah: Take notes berylman. This is how it's done.


It's funny because everything I said is true.


starsmedia.ign.com

In NK all your calls and emails are monitored because oppression. In the US it's because we're the freest country in the world.
 
2013-07-04 09:10:23 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

The streets are eerily empty....
 
2013-07-04 10:39:05 PM

Feed_The_Walrus: There's 1 thing I don't get ... Who are these pictures intended for.

I mean, they don't think we believe them, they're not exactly big on tourism and they can't be for th NK people because they know how shiatty it is.


Democrats, the same drooling morons that reelected a Chicago Mob controlled "community organizer," suck these lies up with a straw.  They know, with religious fervor, that the Best Korea is only being picked on by racist  Tea Party fascists.

Socialism Works, and this is the evidence that proves it.
 
2013-07-05 12:11:51 AM

Cheops: That looks like one of those lost World War II color photos that people uncover from time to time.


That makes sense, because during WW2 everyone in the US was suffering, and we were exceptionally oppressed.  It's a good thing we got corporate persons to tell us what to buy, what to eat, what to want, and everything else now.
 
2013-07-05 12:19:06 AM

Riche: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 425x312]

That's... That's a microwave oven. And is that stuff they're holding half-cooked spaghetti?

WTF?


I was chuckling too, until my wife (a scientist - here in the US, to boot) said that every lab she's ever worked in has had one.  She started giving examples of what they're good for - "heating agarose to make gel" ("gel" being for PCRs, southern blots, northern blots, "all sorts of stuff").

So um, yeah.  Sure, why not.
 
TWX
2013-07-05 12:35:42 AM

El Pachuco: mootmah: Take notes berylman. This is how it's done.

It's funny because everything I said is true.
[starsmedia.ign.com image 80x112]

In NK all your calls and emails are monitored because oppression. In the US it's because we're the freest country in the world.


Three important distinctions. First, the proportion of people directly affected in the US is much lower. Second, the legal system at least has the possibility of changing policies against the will or wishes of the Executive branch. Third, you're free to make your complaints about it.

I will not dispute that any of the negative things about the US are actually bad, they are, but we don't hold a candle to NK when it comes to internal oppression.

NK is like 1984, while the United States is more like Brave New World.
 
2013-07-05 12:42:03 AM

IamAwake: I was chuckling too, until my wife (a scientist - here in the US, to boot) said that every lab she's ever worked in has had one.  She started giving examples of what they're good for - "heating agarose to make gel" ("gel" being for PCRs, southern blots, northern blots, "all sorts of stuff").

So um, yeah.  Sure, why not.


It's not so weird that it's in the shot, it's weird that it's front and center.
 
2013-07-05 01:03:17 AM

FloydA: Forty-Two: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x600]
Maybe they meant "free from all kinds of  taxis"?

It was written with a really strong accent.

[i105.photobucket.com image 513x356]


I laughed out loud
 
2013-07-05 01:30:39 AM
Apparently when you have your picture taken, you have to have your hand outstretched, with either one finger or your entire hand pointing to something off-camera.

This makes the viewer wonder what they are pointing towards. Is it Godzilla? The DPRK People's Army's rifles trained on them? The ass of Kim Jong-Un? We may never know.
 
2013-07-05 01:52:29 AM

daxxenos: Feed_The_Walrus: There's 1 thing I don't get ... Who are these pictures intended for.

I mean, they don't think we believe them, they're not exactly big on tourism and they can't be for th NK people because they know how shiatty it is.

Democrats, the same drooling morons that reelected a Chicago Mob controlled "community organizer," suck these lies up with a straw.  They know, with religious fervor, that the Best Korea is only being picked on by racist  Tea Party fascists.

Socialism Works, and this is the evidence that proves it.


Poe's Law.  Can't tell if satire.
 
2013-07-05 02:03:02 AM

TWX: El Pachuco: mootmah: Take notes berylman. This is how it's done.

It's funny because everything I said is true.
[starsmedia.ign.com image 80x112]

In NK all your calls and emails are monitored because oppression. In the US it's because we're the freest country in the world.

Three important distinctions. First, the proportion of people directly affected in the US is much lower. Second, the legal system at least has the possibility of changing policies against the will or wishes of the Executive branch. Third, you're free to make your complaints about it.

I will not dispute that any of the negative things about the US are actually bad, they are, but we don't hold a candle to NK when it comes to internal oppression.

NK is like 1984, while the United States is more like Brave New World.


Well that totally makes it okay then.  It's not like we have some goddam piece of paper saying our government can't do that sort of thing.
 
TWX
2013-07-05 02:42:00 AM

El Pachuco: TWX: El Pachuco: mootmah: Take notes berylman. This is how it's done.

It's funny because everything I said is true.
[starsmedia.ign.com image 80x112]

In NK all your calls and emails are monitored because oppression. In the US it's because we're the freest country in the world.

Three important distinctions. First, the proportion of people directly affected in the US is much lower. Second, the legal system at least has the possibility of changing policies against the will or wishes of the Executive branch. Third, you're free to make your complaints about it.

I will not dispute that any of the negative things about the US are actually bad, they are, but we don't hold a candle to NK when it comes to internal oppression.

NK is like 1984, while the United States is more like Brave New World.

Well that totally makes it okay then.  It's not like we have some goddam piece of paper saying our government can't do that sort of thing.


Never said that it was OK. It's not OK.

It's just less-not-OK than NK.

I think that it's totally inappropriate to hold prisoners without either a) classifying them as enemy soldiers and thus legally-recognized POWs to hold until the 'war' is ended or b) trying them as civilians. Guantanamo Bay's detention center should never have been opened in the first place as a black hole to dump people into.

It's inappropriate to collect so much data without a warrant. The Fourth Amendment in the Bill of Rights starts off with, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures...", and in my admittedly non-lawyer view, effects should be a good place to include one's electronic signature. The biggest insult is that this data collected doesn't even seem to actually help prevent terrorism, most of the FBI busts seem to be all social interaction that a good lawyer may be able to argue as entrapment (ie, goading someone who's blustering, providing them with materials that they probably would never have gotten access to, and then busting them) or mop-up after the fact when the perpetrators screw up and lead us to them like in the Boston Marathon aftermath. How can one even defend such a system when it has proven to be such a terrible failure on so many levels?

It's wrong that our media only covers total crap, but as long as they're ad-supported, the most sensationalist crap is what wins out. Ever actually watch news on PBS? It's not full of news on what actors are doing or comprised half of promos for later segments as teasers. It's also dry and sometimes hard to get through. Crap is king, and crap is what people want. They want celebrity meltdowns and wardrobe malfunctions and divorces and marriages and babies. They want refinery explosions and train derailments and deaths in natural disasters. They don't want to know why the price of wheat is higher or how the orange crop in Florida is devastated or how anything is going on in many foreign countries, and that's where Huxley got it right while Orwell got it wrong. We're a lot closer to Soma and Feelies than we are to Duty to the Party and the Two Minutes' Hate, though viewers of Fox News may find it otherwise.

The legislative branch has the power to limit some of this if the would agree to do so. The legislative branch could pass laws barring this surveillance, barring these kinds of detentions, and could make explicit laws guaranteeing inadmissability-in-court data or derivative data and investigative leads from such collected information. That would certainly cause problems for the executive branch, but it's theoretically possible to do this, if the populace wasn't so interested in American Idol and other such distractions. Give us our bread and circuses and we gladly fall in line.

Again though, that we're having this conversation is proof that it's not all bad, and that it's still possible to make it better.
 
2013-07-05 02:48:57 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
This looks like some kind of cult.
 
2013-07-05 02:59:22 AM

technoblogical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 803x530]
This looks like some kind of cult.


Aren't they all required to worship the Kim-Jung family as deities?  State religion.
 
2013-07-05 03:33:08 AM

TWX: Again though, that we're having this conversation is proof that it's not all bad, and that it's still possible to make it better.


dasbut.com

Or maybe it isn't.
 
2013-07-05 04:24:41 AM

Feed_The_Walrus: There's 1 thing I don't get ... Who are these pictures intended for.

I mean, they don't think we believe them, they're not exactly big on tourism and they can't be for th NK people because they know how shiatty it is.


See, that's the really scary thing about North Korea.  The government really thinks the rest of the world buys their bullshiat, and the people living there are so thoroughly brainwashed that they actually believe the bullshiat.
 
2013-07-05 06:13:08 AM

mootmah: El Pachuco: On this Independence Day we celebrate our freedom and also look toward North Korea's tyrannical oppression:

In NK the government operates a massive spying apparatus that monitors all its citizens' activities and communications, while in the US... wait, scratch that.

In NK citizens can be indefinitely detained, tortured, and executed without trial, while in the US... okay, we'll start over.

In NK the government and their cronies are unaccountable for their actions, no matter how criminal or how much suffering they cause ordinary citizens, while in the US... this isn't going where we want it.

In NK the media act as lapdogs for the government and unquestioningly echoes talking points handed to them by officials, while in the US...

Take notes berylman. This is how it's done.


I disagree, 'O' was short and sweet and funny. Second attempt collapsed under on its own weight
 
2013-07-05 06:29:13 AM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Supercampion: [i.imgur.com image 850x600]

That's Nikolai Yezhov's hand



www.thepeoplescube.com
Coincidence?
 
2013-07-05 09:56:35 AM

technoblogical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 803x530]
This looks like some kind of cult.


Thulsa Doom
 
2013-07-05 10:05:25 AM

LewDux: mootmah: El Pachuco: On this Independence Day we celebrate our freedom and also look toward North Korea's tyrannical oppression:

In NK the government operates a massive spying apparatus that monitors all its citizens' activities and communications, while in the US... wait, scratch that.

In NK citizens can be indefinitely detained, tortured, and executed without trial, while in the US... okay, we'll start over.

In NK the government and their cronies are unaccountable for their actions, no matter how criminal or how much suffering they cause ordinary citizens, while in the US... this isn't going where we want it.

In NK the media act as lapdogs for the government and unquestioningly echoes talking points handed to them by officials, while in the US...

Take notes berylman. This is how it's done.

I disagree, 'O' was short and sweet and funny. Second attempt collapsed under on its own weight


The third burned down, fell over, and sank into a swamp.
 
2013-07-05 10:21:46 AM

jaytkay: WHAR traffic girls whar?

[cfs13.tistory.com image 850x564]


Where's the traffic???
 
2013-07-05 10:48:41 AM

chiett: [cdn.theatlanticcities.com image 608x407]
Always one of my favorites. Think how much they save on their electric bills. It's an Al Gore wet dream!


south korea looks like a spider web
i don't like spiders,  they scare me.
 
2013-07-05 11:25:49 AM

TWX: NK is like 1984, while the United States is more like Brave New World.


That's preposterous. If the US was like Brave New World, I'd be getting laid.
 
2013-07-05 11:56:20 AM

IamAwake: Riche: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 425x312]

That's... That's a microwave oven. And is that stuff they're holding half-cooked spaghetti?

WTF?

I was chuckling too, until my wife (a scientist - here in the US, to boot) said that every lab she's ever worked in has had one.  She started giving examples of what they're good for - "heating agarose to make gel" ("gel" being for PCRs, southern blots, northern blots, "all sorts of stuff").

So um, yeah.  Sure, why not.


Very true, but beside the point. The point is that this is a propaganda piece, showing off the most impressive tech North Korea has to offer... which are basic measuring and testing equipment every lab in the US has, to the point that it's practically part of the background. If they had something like a NASA space program they'd show those lab techs posing on the scaffolding of a rocket that makes their Tapedongs look as tiny as Great Leader's dong, or if they even had an MIT-class university they'd be able to rig up a display of millions of test tubes in racks being titrated into by a robotic armature, while the techs monitor the entire experiment with iPads. Insted, the most impressive props they have is a microwave, a smattering of relatively modern lab equipment, and some burnt-looking ramen.

/then again, maybe it's not targeted at ordinary Koreans/Americans, who would go "Ooooooh, rockets!"
//it might actually be targeted at the real professionals, who would go "Ooooo, a better mixer than the twenty-year-old one we still have to use due to budget cuts! And a new microwave without tomato stains in it from my idiot colleagues that use it to cook their lunches, uncovered!"
///as always, the results are what matter, and if they can lure a single real engineer into their clutches with it, it ain't stupid
 
2013-07-05 12:11:25 PM

Baby_Hole: In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith


Um, exploits man the exploits?

[*insert rimshot*]

Srsly, yeah, the DPRK is such a bright, shiny, fascinating lie. I'd love to make a career of studying it. BTW, the website is run by one Alejandro Cao de Benos de Les y Perez, ginormous douchenozzle and Western apologist for Best Korea. Also known as "Cho Sun-il," he holds dual citizenship in Spain and the DPRK.
 
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