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(Some 4th Guy)   The European Parliament is going to help bring the U.S. down a few notches with an investigation in to all that wiretapping. So vote Republican2016 so you can go to war against Eurasia   (europarl.europa.eu) divider line 180
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2013-07-04 05:22:33 PM
Its political theatre.

Nothing will come of it.
 
2013-07-04 05:37:46 PM
Actually that's Eastasia, subby.
 
2013-07-04 05:42:54 PM
So Republicans care what the rest of the world thinks now?
 
2013-07-04 08:03:52 PM
Sorry, not enough brown people.  Can't invade.
 
2013-07-04 08:12:30 PM

Peter von Nostrand: So Republicans care what the rest of the world thinks now?


That happens, once they form bombable opinions.
 
2013-07-04 08:12:35 PM
So vote Republican2016 so you can go toalways have been at war against Eurasia

I have corrected submitter's headline.
 
2013-07-04 08:12:36 PM
I expect there to be lots of the following in this thread:

HEY EUROPE, BOTH SIDES ARE BAD SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!!!!
 
2013-07-04 08:14:59 PM

cman: Its political theatre.

Nothing will come of it.


Maybe nothing in the way of real change, but it'll give all the European expats that I know another reason to tell me that Americans can go fark themselves.

So, there's that.  There's always that.
 
2013-07-04 08:17:08 PM
B-B-B-UT REPUBLICANS B-B-B-BUT BUSH!

"That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. And it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA court works. The separation of powers works. Our Constitution works. We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers, and that justice is not arbitrary." - Senator Barack Obama, August, 2007
 
2013-07-04 08:17:59 PM
Oh noo; we're sooo scared; the European Union is going to write us a very stern letter.

/ The horror
 
2013-07-04 08:18:39 PM

FriarReb98: Sorry, not enough brown people.  Can't invade.


You obviously haven't been to Europe lately.
 
2013-07-04 08:19:09 PM

WhoopAssWayne: That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens.


He didn't lie.  The wiretapping of American citizens is technically legal now.

What, you thought he meant something else?
 
2013-07-04 08:19:22 PM

cman: Its political theatre.

Nothing will come of it.


Maybe, but Europe is a place where public opinion is much more influential for trade and corporate law than in the USA. American tech and telecom corporations might discover they are not as powerful there as they believed last year.
 
2013-07-04 08:22:40 PM

iheartscotch: Oh noo; we're sooo scared; the European Union is going to write us a very stern letter.

/ The horror


 images.picturesdepot.com

I'm not scared of a letter, I'm scared they will go Funkadelic, baby.
 
2013-07-04 08:24:24 PM
Pfft, I will be surprised should the oh-so-outraged, we-would-love-to-do-the-same-if-we-aren't-already EU politicians even bother with sending a strongly-worded letter.


/they'll just give Obama the name of the PDF file and be done with it
 
2013-07-04 08:30:33 PM
Pot, kettle, black: France 'has vast data surveillance' - Le Monde report.
 
2013-07-04 08:30:47 PM
We're already at war with most of Eurasia, Subby. Do try to keep up.
 
2013-07-04 08:32:26 PM

The Voice of Doom: Pfft, I will be surprised should the oh-so-outraged, we-would-love-to-do-the-same-if-we-aren't-already EU politicians even bother with sending a strongly-worded letter.


/they'll just give Obama the name of the PDF file another Nobel peace prizeand be done with it

 
2013-07-04 08:33:20 PM

JonBuck: Pot, kettle, black: France 'has vast data surveillance' - Le Monde report.


1) But, mom! All the other kids are doing it!
2) As has been pointed out already, Bush spying  = bad, Obama spying  = good.  4 legs good, 2 legs bad, right?
 
2013-07-04 08:35:27 PM

blacksho89: JonBuck: Pot, kettle, black: France 'has vast data surveillance' - Le Monde report.

1) But, mom! All the other kids are doing it!
2) As has been pointed out already, Bush spying  = bad, Obama spying  = good.  4 legs good, 2 legs bad, right?


Obama spying = bad, Bush spying = bad, Clinton spying = bad, Bush 1 spying = bad...need I go on?
 
2013-07-04 08:36:10 PM
 
2013-07-04 08:40:48 PM

JonBuck: blacksho89: JonBuck: Pot, kettle, black: France 'has vast data surveillance' - Le Monde report.

1) But, mom! All the other kids are doing it!
2) As has been pointed out already, Bush spying  = bad, Obama spying  = good.  4 legs good, 2 legs bad, right?

Obama spying = bad, Bush spying = bad, Clinton spying = bad, Bush 1 spying = bad...need I go on?


I agree with you, but partisan hacks do not
 
2013-07-04 08:43:19 PM
All this means is National Lampoon is going to have to change the name of one film and call it Freedom Vacation.
 
2013-07-04 08:44:37 PM

WhoopAssWayne: B-B-B-UT REPUBLICANS B-B-B-BUT BUSH!

"That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. And it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA court works. The separation of powers works. Our Constitution works. We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers, and that justice is not arbitrary." - Senator Barack Obama, August, 2007


B-b-but CHANGE!  I was promised some hope and CHANGE!

Oh, furlough? Yeah, there's that i guess......O-o...
 
2013-07-04 08:46:19 PM

iheartscotch: Oh noo; we're sooo scared; the European Union is going to write us a very stern letter.

/ The horror


Yeah, or sink yours and the EUs economy along with, just to piss wankers like you off.
 
2013-07-04 08:47:48 PM
Would probably be a good time to remind Germany that they still owe us for doing it for them... and France can shove it up their own ass, they've been a Fascist state for over a thousand years.
 
2013-07-04 08:48:54 PM
Let's nuke this tribal barbarians back to the dark ages.
 
2013-07-04 08:52:14 PM
No, not all spying is bad. Some of it is pretty damn important. Do you really think we should not be trying to intercept terrorist communications?
 
2013-07-04 08:52:15 PM

Bennie Crabtree: cman: Its political theatre.

Nothing will come of it.

Maybe, but Europe is a place where public opinion is much more influential for trade and corporate law than in the USA. American tech and telecom corporations might discover they are not as powerful there as they believed last year.


They'll certainly find themselves with fewer European customers. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a3e573ce-e3fd-11e2-91a3-00144feabdc0.html  Germans won't trust that their industrial secrets with American firms. Although, Spain and Greece kinda moot in that regard.
 
2013-07-04 08:52:53 PM
Funny I don't recall all the fanfare or outrage on the republican side when Bush made it 100% legal. But since Oblackman McScocialist continued it after saying he wouldn't, people lost their shiat.

machoprogrammer: JonBuck: blacksho89: JonBuck: Pot, kettle, black: France 'has vast data surveillance' - Le Monde report.

1) But, mom! All the other kids are doing it!
2) As has been pointed out already, Bush spying  = bad, Obama spying  = good.  4 legs good, 2 legs bad, right?

Obama spying = bad, Bush spying = bad, Clinton spying = bad, Bush 1 spying = bad...need I go on?

I agree with you, but partisan hacks do not

 
2013-07-04 08:54:10 PM

prjindigo: Would probably be a good time to remind Germany that they still owe us for doing it for them... and France can shove it up their own ass, they've been a Fascist state for over a thousand years.


Now is the time they return the favor.
 
2013-07-04 08:55:57 PM

spawn73: iheartscotch: Oh noo; we're sooo scared; the European Union is going to write us a very stern letter.

/ The horror

Yeah, or sink yours and the EUs economy along with, just to piss wankers like you off.


I was being snarky. Your snarkometer needs new batteries.
 
2013-07-04 08:56:14 PM
Every first world country does it. Some are just better at it than others.
 
2013-07-04 08:58:16 PM
But I want to go to war against the Narnians!!!
 
2013-07-04 08:59:47 PM

blacksho89: We're already at war We've always been at war with most of Eurasia, Subby. Do try to keep up.


fixed
 
2013-07-04 08:59:53 PM
Also, as was pointed out by German green party bigwig Jürgen Trittin, it seems like European governments either don't care enough or don't have the balls to do anything, what with them quickly denying Snowden's asylum applications and the business with the Bolivian president; and it's not like anybody filled out formal asylum applications during the Cold War when a fugitive whistleblower needed protection after defecting and exposing illegal or hostile actions done by his country against ours.
 
2013-07-04 09:04:21 PM

jaymanchu: Funny I don't recall all the fanfare or outrage on the republican side when Bush made it 100% legal. But since Oblackman McScocialist continued it after saying he wouldn't, people lost their shiat.


I don't really see what that has to do with anything.

Why the fark are people trying to turn this into a partisan politics thing?  Are you people shills?  Or is partisan politics all you understand?

Look, there is no Republican side or Democratic side to this.  there is teh side of the government, and teh side of the people.  That's it.  Those are the two sides.

"Oh, well, you didn't hate it before, so you shouldn't hate it now, hypocrite!"

Who cares?  As long as they hate it now, that's good!

Forget party politics.  We can all join hands hate the government together, like rational people.
 
2013-07-04 09:07:31 PM
From the strongly worded letter: EU data protection standards should not be undermined as a result of the EU-US trade deal... it would be "unfortunate" if EU-US trade talks were to be affected by such allegations


Translation : Please don't use economic leverage to get your way even though that would be the sensible thing on your part.
 
2013-07-04 09:13:15 PM
I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say kill 'em all!
 
2013-07-04 09:13:30 PM
Careful now; this might involve finger waving and tut-tutting!
 
2013-07-04 09:17:55 PM
Like they can do anything about it! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

Conform, Euroserfs! Be glad the US even bothers to bug you.
 
2013-07-04 09:18:29 PM

FriarReb98: Sorry, not enough brown people.  Can't invade.


Now hold on there a minute...

do they have natural reserves of oil?
 
2013-07-04 09:21:03 PM
Meh. We all go through our NKV stage. Sadly, the US has a farkton of technology and money to throw at it.
 
2013-07-04 09:21:03 PM

meathome: FriarReb98: Sorry, not enough brown people.  Can't invade.

Now hold on there a minute...

do they have natural reserves of oil?


read about the paris basin
 
2013-07-04 09:23:31 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Actually that's Eastasia, subby.


Actually it's Myasia.

Because fark you. That's why.
 
2013-07-04 09:29:09 PM

Bslim: Let's nuke this tribal barbarians back to the dark ages.




Like this guy?
upload.wikimedia.org
fark you Justinian.
 
2013-07-04 09:29:13 PM

Bennie Crabtree: cman: Its political theatre.

Nothing will come of it.

Maybe, but Europe is a place where public opinion is much more influential for trade and corporate law than in the USA. American tech and telecom corporations might discover they are not as powerful there as they believed last year.


It'll inconvenience corporations?

I'm ok with that.
 
2013-07-04 09:30:49 PM

jaymanchu: Funny I don't recall all the fanfare or outrage on the republican side when Bush made it 100% legal. But since Oblackman McScocialist continued it after saying he wouldn't, people lost their shiat.

machoprogrammer: JonBuck: blacksho89: JonBuck: Pot, kettle, black: France 'has vast data surveillance' - Le Monde report.

1) But, mom! All the other kids are doing it!
2) As has been pointed out already, Bush spying  = bad, Obama spying  = good.  4 legs good, 2 legs bad, right?

Obama spying = bad, Bush spying = bad, Clinton spying = bad, Bush 1 spying = bad...need I go on?

I agree with you, but partisan hacks do not


Oh, so it was bad under Bush but OK now? Got it. How about it was bad when both guys did it? Or are you blinded by having the Democratic party cock so far in your mouth?
 
2013-07-04 09:31:25 PM
There are no US secret police listening in on our conversations, or reading our emails and blogs....

But for the record, I'm voting for Hillary in 2016.
Hillary will restore Americas image.

I really doubt that there will be any kind of external wars in 2016 because the military will be every busy try to quell the Obamacare riots.
 
2013-07-04 09:33:58 PM
Now that I think of it, this perceived threat / overreactive response thingy has a well defined cycle. Irish, Germans, Japanese... Kennedy's speech saying "Hey, I'm not the Pope's biatch just because I'm Catholic..."

It is kind of weird seeing religious prohibitions bundled into anti-religious laws in the current age.

Not one trace of irony there, nope....
I will be glad when we're over the current cycle.
 
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