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(Newsarama)   This list of 10 DC Comics characters "taken too soon" could be much more accurate if it just said "The Nu52 sucks and all the characters we enjoyed were taken too soon and replaced by abominations"   (newsarama.com) divider line 47
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2013-07-04 01:41:17 PM
Pretty much that subby.  Pretty much that.
 
2013-07-04 01:52:06 PM
The only sense in which Jason Todd was "taken too soon" is that it would have been nice to read a few issues of the Joker torturing him first.
 
2013-07-04 04:55:14 PM
What a replacement Abomination may look like

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2013-07-04 05:05:23 PM
Superboy and Supergirl don't really belong on there, as they've been re-done countless times, and Jason Todd DID come back, but should've stayed way. Now sure how any of those count as "too soon".

Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's

/Final Crisis and Grant Morrison kinda killed DC for me in general
 
2013-07-04 05:20:44 PM
Deslided.

http://desli.de/Y79
 
2013-07-04 05:21:47 PM
 
2013-07-04 05:26:26 PM
Note to self: If Batman asks you to be his sidekick, run.
 
2013-07-04 05:31:58 PM

Critatak: Note to self: If Batman asks you to be his sidekick, run.


The only fictional character harder on partners than Batman is Harry Callahan.
 
2013-07-04 05:40:22 PM
I'll just guess that Oracle is #1-10, much as Gail Simone's Batgirl is one of the very few bright spots of the new 52 (as is Animal Man).
 
2013-07-04 05:51:27 PM

2CountyFairs: Critatak: Note to self: If Batman asks you to be his sidekick, run.

The only fictional character harder on partners than Batman is Harry Callahan.



I was initially extremely confused because I read that as Hillary Clinton.
 
2013-07-04 05:57:18 PM

Gaambit: Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's


I generally agree with you on the Nu52, but I do like the rebooted Wonder Woman. The current reboot/retcon really went a long way towards fixing the character and making her work well in a standalone series again.
 
2013-07-04 05:59:32 PM
Still pissed at DC for what they did to Sword of Sorcery, but I blame comic book readers, too.

"We want something different."
"OK. Here's the return of a fan-favorite from the 80s."
"But it's a GIRL!!! No way!"

/Team Amaya
 
2013-07-04 06:13:34 PM

Gaambit: Superboy and Supergirl don't really belong on there, as they've been re-done countless times, and Jason Todd DID come back, but should've stayed way. Now sure how any of those count as "too soon".

Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's

/Final Crisis and Grant Morrison kinda killed DC for me in general


IMHO, Grant Morrison is really good for "one-off" side stories set in the DC Universe ( "All-Star Superman" for example). Beyond that, however, his writing get too convoluted, IMHO.   Kinda like how Steven King's short-stories are usually pretty good, but his novels usually aren't....
 
2013-07-04 06:14:06 PM
The killing of Arthur Curry Jr was especially stupid. Thanks Kiribub, I had forgotten about that.
That story line began the ultimate downfall of the whole Aquaman series, such as it was.
/have you got a giant salad fork for a hand or are just glad to see me?
//Damian should have never been killed as well.
///stupid handling of comic assets
 
2013-07-04 06:15:24 PM

baltimoreblonde: Still pissed at DC for what they did to Sword of Sorcery, but I blame comic book readers, too.

"We want something different."
"OK. Here's the return of a fan-favorite from the 80s."
"But it's a GIRL!!! No way!"

/Team Amaya


Demon Knights is ending next month. ;_;  No more fantasy titles.
 
2013-07-04 06:19:32 PM

Mad_Radhu: Gaambit: Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's

I generally agree with you on the Nu52, but I do like the rebooted Wonder Woman. The current reboot/retcon really went a long way towards fixing the character and making her work well in a standalone series again.


Same here ( finally, an origin story that isn't dumb!) . As mentioned above, the "nu-52" Animal Man is really good as well....

/ Agree with the haters about (most) of the Nu-52, however...
 
2013-07-04 06:23:11 PM
Marvin and Wendy were the worst part of the 70s Superfriends show.
 
2013-07-04 07:19:30 PM

baltimoreblonde: Still pissed at DC for what they did to Sword of Sorcery, but I blame comic book readers, too.

"We want something different."
"OK. Here's the return of a fan-favorite from the 80s."
"But it's a GIRL!!! No way!"

/Team Amaya


"Team Amaya"?  That character was an absolutely worthless addition to the Nu52.  It should have read "Sword of Sorcery featuring Amethyst but actually starring her mother, Graciel".  They took all the charm, magic & intrigue of the original series, flushed it all down the tubes, and created a cookie cutter character that attracted all the pathos of a slug.  The only thing SoS had in common with the original series is the name & the use of the word "Gemworld".  Everything else was rehashed into something unrecognizable.  The character could have been called SuperBlond & you'd have had NO clue it had anything to do with the original.

Yes, I'm a hardcore fan of the maxi-series as I am female & it did precisely what it wanted me to do: start reading comics.  This new series?  I'd be shocked if it even attracted one new person to comics.  What an absolute waste of time & effort.  Even the original creators were disappointed (check out Dan Mishkin's comments about it).

OK, I'm done ranting.  For now.
 
2013-07-04 07:21:58 PM
In regards to my last comment:

DC alienated pre-existing Amethyst fans & created a bland story we've all seen before.  It's own demise is due to both being lack-lustre, overpriced & predictable.  And that's a pathetic shame.
 
2013-07-04 07:24:12 PM
*sigh* Please forgive all grammatical, punctuation & just flat-out stupid errors I made in my above comments.  My brain goes a little fritzy when I'm nerd-raging ;)
 
2013-07-04 08:08:06 PM
I really hate what they did to Harley Quinn

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I mean what was wrong with this?

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2013-07-04 08:25:21 PM

Cheater71: I really hate what they did to Harley Quinn

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I mean what was wrong with this?

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Amanda Waller is an even bigger disappointment to me: they took a unique character with a unique back story, political savvy and adult gravitas,  a character who wasn't like anybody else, and made her into just another generic super spy barbie doll.
 
2013-07-04 08:50:52 PM
I dunno, the current Green Lantern series' arent bad.
 
2013-07-04 09:12:41 PM

Cheater71: I really hate what they did to Harley Quinn

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I mean what was wrong with this?

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Someone said they were going to put her on Suicide Squad, but the artist messed up and thought they said Suicide Girls.
 
2013-07-04 09:42:42 PM

Cheater71: I really hate what they did to Harley Quinn

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I mean what was wrong with this?

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Ugh.

Looks like she now has a utility belt, and ( probably ) a lot of pockets...

/ paging Rob Liefeld...
// bet Dini and Timm aren't happy about this...
 
2013-07-04 09:45:22 PM

Mad_Radhu: Gaambit: Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's

I generally agree with you on the Nu52, but I do like the rebooted Wonder Woman. The current reboot/retcon really went a long way towards fixing the character and making her work well in a standalone series again.


Yeah, I've heard good things about it, and I like Cliff Chiang's art. Likewise with the Animal Man/Swamp Thing runs, but I was under the impression they each just had their creative teams change-up or leave.
 
2013-07-04 09:50:24 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Gaambit: Superboy and Supergirl don't really belong on there, as they've been re-done countless times, and Jason Todd DID come back, but should've stayed way. Now sure how any of those count as "too soon".

Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's

/Final Crisis and Grant Morrison kinda killed DC for me in general

IMHO, Grant Morrison is really good for "one-off" side stories set in the DC Universe ( "All-Star Superman" for example). Beyond that, however, his writing get too convoluted, IMHO.   Kinda like how Steven King's short-stories are usually pretty good, but his novels usually aren't....


Oh, definitely. "All-Star Superman" is what I went back to as an example of the best way to tell his origin when I was pissed about "Man Of Steel".
It was fun when he did it with characters like Doom Patrol and Animal Man back in the day - they were already kinda goofy. I was reading all of the Batman titles monthly when they gave it to him, and slowly watched it just become more and more insane.  When he dressed himself in multi-colored rags and went by Zer-En-Argh (or whatever) I bailed.
 
2013-07-04 10:34:50 PM
Final Crisis is the absolute worst reading experience I've had in 35 years of reading comics, and Dan Didio is the worst thing to happen to DC Comics in their entire history. Grant Morrison should be kept very far away from the mainstream universe (his X-stuff was largely crap, too) and his editors should ride him harder than a freshman chick at a fraternity gangbang to make him MAKE SOME GODDAMN SENSE.

Its SO disheartening to have loved his Doom Patrol and Invisibles stuff only to have him be a factor in making me drop buying comics entirely.
 
2013-07-04 10:48:08 PM
I stopped reading comics for about 5 years between the late 90's and early 00's, came back around when DC did Identity Crisis.  I really like legacy characters, so I got attached to Captain Boomerang Jr. (Owen Mercer).  We got about 2 - 3 years of brief appearances (Suicide Squad, The Outsiders, a few issues of Robin) and then he took an out of character turn as a child murderer.  DC killed him off just so that they could bring back the original from the dead, which was stupid since Owen was heading in the direction of giving up the boomerang gimmick anyways.  It was a giant waste of time and of a great plot point about his origins.  I kept waiting for him to run into Bart Allen, but by that point DC had screwed up the Flash series and had put him out to pasture too.
 
2013-07-04 11:09:49 PM
My bigger problem with the Nu52 is that they didn't do a hard reset of Batman and Green Lantern. Green lantern, they basically continued like (almost) nothing had changed and Batman still retains a lot of his old continuity, with some notable exceptions *cough*Batgirl 2 &3*cough*
 
2013-07-05 12:11:37 AM
Let's be honest here.  There is really only one team of superheroes than actually needs a reboot.

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2013-07-05 04:34:42 AM

Galileo's Daughter: Marvin and Wendy were the worst part of the 70s Superfriends show.


Ok, I didn't know they'd actually been included in canon at some point.  I thought it was just the usual television bs put in as comedy relief to keep a bad Saturday morning cartoon from becoming too intense for the kiddies.  Heh, finding out that they're dead and died pretty horribly at that, makes my day.  Some kind writer please do the right thing and unplug Wendy as well, preferably by accident and have no one find out she's dead until she's long gone, or better yet, write them out of existence.  For them to ever have existed at all would be best all around.  Same with those purple retards they put in as replacements if they turn out to be canon.
 
2013-07-05 08:19:43 AM

CSM101: My bigger problem with the Nu52 is that they didn't do a hard reset of Batman and Green Lantern. Green lantern, they basically continued like (almost) nothing had changed and Batman still retains a lot of his old continuity, with some notable exceptions *cough*Batgirl 2 &3*cough*


You mean, aside from killing off the guardians and creating the other lanterns, and introducing new guardians with a new philosophy?

Besides, why do a reboot? At this point, the story's more interesting to see how things change with new leadership.
 
2013-07-05 08:42:10 AM
" I really hate what they did to Harley Quinn"

Me too, it's like they turned her into yet another over dieting sinewy Hollywood creation.
New costume sucks as well, hopefully they'll return to this at some point.
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2013-07-05 10:46:26 AM
LabRat01:   I kept waiting for him to run into Bart Allen, but by that point DC had screwed up the Flash series and had put him out to pasture too.

Me too! I remember when they had the big reveal that he was Bart's half-brother, I was so excited (Bart being one of my favorite characters).

I, too, enjoy the legacy side of things (something DC has always had over Marvel) but DC sees scared of it anymore.
 
2013-07-05 10:50:37 AM

Bravo Two: CSM101: My bigger problem with the Nu52 is that they didn't do a hard reset of Batman and Green Lantern. Green lantern, they basically continued like (almost) nothing had changed and Batman still retains a lot of his old continuity, with some notable exceptions *cough*Batgirl 2 &3*cough*

You mean, aside from killing off the guardians and creating the other lanterns, and introducing new guardians with a new philosophy?

Besides, why do a reboot? At this point, the story's more interesting to see how things change with new leadership.


I think his point (and also one of my complaints) is that if you're going to do a universe-wide reboot (and make a big deal of it) do all or none. In GL and Batman's case, DC had two superstar creators (Johns and Morrison) in the middle of stories they couldn't say no to so they had to let them continue on.
 
2013-07-05 11:31:24 AM

Gaambit: Bravo Two: CSM101: My bigger problem with the Nu52 is that they didn't do a hard reset of Batman and Green Lantern. Green lantern, they basically continued like (almost) nothing had changed and Batman still retains a lot of his old continuity, with some notable exceptions *cough*Batgirl 2 &3*cough*

You mean, aside from killing off the guardians and creating the other lanterns, and introducing new guardians with a new philosophy?

Besides, why do a reboot? At this point, the story's more interesting to see how things change with new leadership.

I think his point (and also one of my complaints) is that if you're going to do a universe-wide reboot (and make a big deal of it) do all or none. In GL and Batman's case, DC had two superstar creators (Johns and Morrison) in the middle of stories they couldn't say no to so they had to let them continue on.


Agree 100%. Also, if you're bothering to reset everything, why not take some chances and change things up a bit. Make the characters markedly different, give us something new and crazy.
 
2013-07-05 11:54:31 AM

2CountyFairs: Critatak: Note to self: If Batman asks you to be his sidekick, run.

The only fictional character harder on partners than Batman is Harry Callahan.


Or Harry Reems
 
2013-07-05 11:57:43 AM

Galileo's Daughter: Marvin and Wendy were the worst part of the 70s Superfriends show.


Counterpoint: Aqua man and Toyman
 
2013-07-05 01:40:51 PM

Gaambit: Superboy and Supergirl don't really belong on there, as they've been re-done countless times, and Jason Todd DID come back, but should've stayed way. Now sure how any of those count as "too soon".

Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's

/Final Crisis and Grant Morrison kinda killed DC for me in general


Anyone else want to complain about someone who should have stayed dead but they just had to dig him up? Good b/c Barry Allen had the best comic death ever and it was utterly assy of them to undo that and then shelf Wally West.
 
2013-07-05 02:40:37 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Gaambit: Superboy and Supergirl don't really belong on there, as they've been re-done countless times, and Jason Todd DID come back, but should've stayed way. Now sure how any of those count as "too soon".

Regardless, subby is 100% correct. The Nu 52 is just awful, and this is coming from someone who bought nearly every DC title in the mid-00's

/Final Crisis and Grant Morrison kinda killed DC for me in general

Anyone else want to complain about someone who should have stayed dead but they just had to dig him up? Good b/c Barry Allen had the best comic death ever and it was utterly assy of them to undo that and then shelf Wally West.


That was the beginning of the end of DC for me.

Resurrecting Barry Allen made it so much easier for me to say "fark this shiat" when NuDC was announced.
 
2013-07-05 04:44:37 PM
DC can go to hell. Except Green Lantern. I love Green Lantern.

/Maybe sell GL to another company who can take it in new, unique directions...
 
2013-07-05 04:46:23 PM

Kurmudgeon: The killing of Arthur Curry Jr was especially stupid.


Since both Aquaman and his wife Mera could breathe air as well as water, why did their baby suffocate out of the water? That made no damn sense.
 
2013-07-05 04:48:17 PM

Bravo Two: I dunno, the current Green Lantern series' arent bad.


Now that Geoff Johns left the title, that might change soon.
 
2013-07-05 04:54:32 PM

LabRat01: I stopped reading comics for about 5 years between the late 90's and early 00's, came back around when DC did Identity Crisis.  I really like legacy characters, so I got attached to Captain Boomerang Jr. (Owen Mercer).  We got about 2 - 3 years of brief appearances (Suicide Squad, The Outsiders, a few issues of Robin) and then he took an out of character turn as a child murderer.  DC killed him off just so that they could bring back the original from the dead, which was stupid since Owen was heading in the direction of giving up the boomerang gimmick anyways.  It was a giant waste of time and of a great plot point about his origins.  I kept waiting for him to run into Bart Allen, but by that point DC had screwed up the Flash series and had put him out to pasture too.


Dear Sweet Jesus, bringing back the first CB was so damn stupid, especially since it was just so he could throw a boomerang at Dove during Brightest Day. Owen could have easily done the same thing, but nope....they had to give him the Idiot Ball, throw everything about the character out the window and kill him off to make way for his predecessor.

The same crap pretty much happened to Wally West - shoving an awesome character under the bus to make way for the guy who previously held the title and died on the job.
 
2013-07-05 04:58:02 PM

Memoryalpha: Galileo's Daughter: Marvin and Wendy were the worst part of the 70s Superfriends show.

Ok, I didn't know they'd actually been included in canon at some point.  I thought it was just the usual television bs put in as comedy relief to keep a bad Saturday morning cartoon from becoming too intense for the kiddies.  Heh, finding out that they're dead and died pretty horribly at that, makes my day.  Some kind writer please do the right thing and unplug Wendy as well, preferably by accident and have no one find out she's dead until she's long gone, or better yet, write them out of existence.  For them to ever have existed at all would be best all around.  Same with those purple retards they put in as replacements if they turn out to be canon.


They existed in the pre-Nu52 canon, but not this one. Marvin did die horribly, but Wendy eventually recovered and ended up as a sidekick for Oracle called Proxy. As for the Wonder Twins, they also showed up in the Pre-Nu52 canon, but they aren't in this one.
 
2013-07-06 12:15:26 AM
Imagine that, letting the guy who thought 52 sucked and Countdown was a masterpiece run the company resulted in even MORE crap. But hey, the books are apparently selling well, so people do BUY this crap. Thus, I blame those people. Fark you idiots, stop rewarding this garbage
 
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