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(CBC)   How can you tell grizzly dung from other bear dung? It's got shotgun pellets in it and smells like pepper   (cbc.ca) divider line 42
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2013-07-04 03:28:39 PM
surprised anyone would know

DNRTFA
 
2013-07-04 03:44:00 PM
The grizzly dung smells like slow Canadians.
 
2013-07-04 03:44:07 PM
The grizzly has a tender heart
 
2013-07-04 03:45:02 PM
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Obligatory
 
2013-07-04 03:47:33 PM
Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.
 
2013-07-04 03:52:51 PM
Conservation officers are investigating and attempting to locate the grizzly bear

Better kill the cub too.

Send a message to the other bears.
 
2013-07-04 03:53:39 PM
Wasn't bear repellant. It was AXE Huckleberry Woodsman body spray and that NEVER works.
 
2013-07-04 03:55:07 PM
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Grizzly dung smells him



/got nothing
 
2013-07-04 03:55:16 PM
So farking glad I like nowhere near grizzly bears.  That is all.
 
2013-07-04 03:55:51 PM
live*
 
2013-07-04 03:56:49 PM
Grizzly bears fight dirty.

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2013-07-04 03:56:58 PM
"I don't need to outrun the bear.  I just need to outrun you."
 
2013-07-04 04:01:59 PM
Just so everyone is clear - brown bears and Grizzlies are the same. Black bears are the ones most of us have running around in the back yard here in the lower 48. Yes, in the backyard. We're pushing out development into their roaming grounds because we don't like living in the inner city with the Nubian class.

/black bears
 
2013-07-04 04:02:12 PM
Just got back from backpacking in the rockies. In passing other hikers I noticed that none of them had instantly accessible pepper spray, as in you can grab it and use it without even looking. I keep mine hanging from a hook so I can spray within 1 second if I wanted to. I also keep a flare launcher loaded with a bear banger clipped to my shoulder strap righ on my chest. Only Darwin Award wannabes put their spray in the tops of their packs or in a side pocket where they can't reach it quickly.
 
2013-07-04 04:03:25 PM

AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.


A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.
 
2013-07-04 04:04:45 PM
"But the bear still continued to pursue that individual and knock them down and chewed on him a bit before proceeding with its cub."

After it's been doused in pepper spray and shot, all it does is chew on them a little bit. Apparently the bear doesn't like the taste of hikers?
 
2013-07-04 04:07:02 PM
If you have bear spray and guns and still lose then maybe the great outdoors isn't for you.
 
2013-07-04 04:07:08 PM

iheartscotch: AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.

A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.


Pepper spray is a better deterrent than bullets. It messes up their sense of smell. They can tolerate pain from a bullet much easier.
 
2013-07-04 04:08:02 PM

Five Tails of Fury: "But the bear still continued to pursue that individual and knock them down and chewed on him a bit before proceeding with its cub."

After it's been doused in pepper spray and shot, all it does is chew on them a little bit. Apparently the bear doesn't like the taste of hikers?


That's why they tell you to play dead; if you're dead, the bear will, probably, go on its beary way and go do bear stuff.
 
2013-07-04 04:12:20 PM

Russ1642: iheartscotch: AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.

A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.

Pepper spray is a better deterrent than bullets. It messes up their sense of smell. They can tolerate pain from a bullet much easier.


It would be even better to make as much noise as you can, stay in large groups, avoid areas with bear clawed trees, pay attention to your surroundings and never get between a momma grizzly and her baby.

I was saying that a 12 gauge slug might, MIGHT, take out a bear. It's better to avoid bears completely.

/ pepper spray is good; but, you don't want to be forced to use it
 
2013-07-04 04:14:32 PM

Russ1642: Just got back from backpacking in the rockies. In passing other hikers I noticed that none of them had instantly accessible pepper spray, as in you can grab it and use it without even looking. I keep mine hanging from a hook so I can spray within 1 second if I wanted to. I also keep a flare launcher loaded with a bear banger clipped to my shoulder strap righ on my chest. Only Darwin Award wannabes put their spray in the tops of their packs or in a side pocket where they can't reach it quickly.


I gotta admit shooting a grizzly with a flare gun so it was on fire when it attacked you would be pretty badass...especially if it chased you through the woods, setting forest fires along the way.

"Ranger Rick, what caused this catastrophic fire?"

"Well, Dave, we believe it was a flaming grizzly bear chasing a (now) dead hiker, Russ1642."

"AWESOME!"
 
2013-07-04 04:19:08 PM

iheartscotch: Russ1642: iheartscotch: AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.

A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.

Pepper spray is a better deterrent than bullets. It messes up their sense of smell. They can tolerate pain from a bullet much easier.

It would be even better to make as much noise as you can, stay in large groups, avoid areas with bear clawed trees, pay attention to your surroundings and never get between a momma grizzly and her baby.

I was saying that a 12 gauge slug might, MIGHT, take out a bear. It's better to avoid bears completely.

/ pepper spray is good; but, you don't want to be forced to use it


The whole 'make a lot of noise' thing is dumb. Hikers that rely on bear bells or singing are just begging to get eaten. Sounds good in theory but in practice it sucks. You just can't talk for ten hours straight and bear bells are the most annoying thing ever. You go hiking to hear the sounds of nature, not farking Santa. The proper way is to plan on getting attacked. Do your best to prevent it but plan for the worst. Pepper spray, bear bangers, and big knives (guns if you're an American) should be at the ready at all times. Don't even walk off for a piss without these on you.
 
2013-07-04 04:20:12 PM

Russ1642: iheartscotch: AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.

A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.

Pepper spray is a better deterrent than bullets. It messes up their sense of smell. They can tolerate pain from a bullet much easier.


Know how I know you don't know anything about guns?
 
2013-07-04 04:21:51 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Russ1642: Just got back from backpacking in the rockies. In passing other hikers I noticed that none of them had instantly accessible pepper spray, as in you can grab it and use it without even looking. I keep mine hanging from a hook so I can spray within 1 second if I wanted to. I also keep a flare launcher loaded with a bear banger clipped to my shoulder strap righ on my chest. Only Darwin Award wannabes put their spray in the tops of their packs or in a side pocket where they can't reach it quickly.

I gotta admit shooting a grizzly with a flare gun so it was on fire when it attacked you would be pretty badass...especially if it chased you through the woods, setting forest fires along the way.

"Ranger Rick, what caused this catastrophic fire?"

"Well, Dave, we believe it was a flaming grizzly bear chasing a (now) dead hiker, Russ1642."

"AWESOME!"


Bear bangers are shot upwards and then they go BANG really loud. I've tested them out and they are deafening. Never shoot them at the bear because you'll miss, it'll go behind the bear then go off and the bear will run in your direction.
 
2013-07-04 04:23:42 PM

Frantic Freddie: Russ1642: iheartscotch: AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.

A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.

Pepper spray is a better deterrent than bullets. It messes up their sense of smell. They can tolerate pain from a bullet much easier.

Know how I know you don't know anything about guns?


Know how I know you don't know anything about bears? Guns work but you're going to have to hit them more than once.
 
2013-07-04 04:24:50 PM

Frantic Freddie: Know how I know you don't know anything about guns?


Know how I know you know nothing about bears?

http://news.byu.edu/archive08-mar-bearspray.aspx

Concerned about hikers' and campers' persistent doubts that a small can of liquid pepper spray could stop half a ton of claws, muscle and teeth, Smith and colleagues analyzed 20 years of bear spray incidents in Alaska, home to 150,000 bears. He found that the spray effectively halted aggressive bear behavior in 92 percent of the cases, whether that behavior was an attack or merely rummaging for food. Of all 175 people involved in the incidents studied, only three were injured by bears, and none required hospitalization. Smith and his research team report their findings in the April issue of theJournal of Wildlife Management.

......

Smith's previous research found that guns were effective about 67 percent of the time. Shooting accurately during the terrifying split seconds of a grizzly charge is extremely difficult, he pointed out, and his data shows that it takes an average of four hits to stop a bear
 
2013-07-04 04:25:49 PM
cameron.kangaweb.com
 
2013-07-04 04:28:27 PM

Russ1642: iheartscotch: Russ1642: iheartscotch: AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.

A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.

Pepper spray is a better deterrent than bullets. It messes up their sense of smell. They can tolerate pain from a bullet much easier.

It would be even better to make as much noise as you can, stay in large groups, avoid areas with bear clawed trees, pay attention to your surroundings and never get between a momma grizzly and her baby.

I was saying that a 12 gauge slug might, MIGHT, take out a bear. It's better to avoid bears completely.

/ pepper spray is good; but, you don't want to be forced to use it

The whole 'make a lot of noise' thing is dumb. Hikers that rely on bear bells or singing are just begging to get eaten. Sounds good in theory but in practice it sucks. You just can't talk for ten hours straight and bear bells are the most annoying thing ever. You go hiking to hear the sounds of nature, not farking Santa. The proper way is to plan on getting attacked. Do your best to prevent it but plan for the worst. Pepper spray, bear bangers, and big knives (guns if you're an American) should be at the ready at all times. Don't even walk off for a piss without these on you.


Bear bells are annoying; but, they do perform an important function. My bells are permanently attached to my pack; after a while, you don't notice them. I've gone on week long hikes, and, even bear bangers add extra weight you might regret having; much less a big .45-70 or something of that nature along for bears. A knife? For a bear? I always bring a pocket knife; but, you're never going to fight a bear off with a knife, even if you have a Bowie.

/ singing is good for moral, it gives you a rhythm; I realize it's not for everybody though.
 
2013-07-04 04:31:09 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Frantic Freddie: Know how I know you don't know anything about guns?

Know how I know you know nothing about bears?

http://news.byu.edu/archive08-mar-bearspray.aspx

Concerned about hikers' and campers' persistent doubts that a small can of liquid pepper spray could stop half a ton of claws, muscle and teeth, Smith and colleagues analyzed 20 years of bear spray incidents in Alaska, home to 150,000 bears. He found that the spray effectively halted aggressive bear behavior in 92 percent of the cases, whether that behavior was an attack or merely rummaging for food. Of all 175 people involved in the incidents studied, only three were injured by bears, and none required hospitalization. Smith and his research team report their findings in the April issue of theJournal of Wildlife Management.

......

Smith's previous research found that guns were effective about 67 percent of the time. Shooting accurately during the terrifying split seconds of a grizzly charge is extremely difficult, he pointed out, and his data shows that it takes an average of four hits to stop a bear


Bear spray technique is to lay down a cloud in front of an approaching bear. When it hits the cloud they don't know what's going on with their nose, lungs, and eyes and they'll take off. This is far easier to do in a panic situation. Thanks for posting proper references, unlike my lazy ass.
 
2013-07-04 04:34:14 PM
I always hike with a cripple.
 
2013-07-04 04:34:37 PM
Forget that. I always carry Sriracha sauce. When threatened, you cover yourself in it. Sure, you may get eaten, but after developing a taste for the sauce the bear will either limit itself to eating Thai tourists (from santa monica in reality) or people from india.
 
2013-07-04 04:34:46 PM

Abner Doon: So farking glad I like nowhere near grizzly bears.  That is all.




I am glad that they are extinct in California. There are a few loons that would like to reintroduce them, but they will never get their way.
 
2013-07-04 04:39:34 PM

iheartscotch: Russ1642: iheartscotch: Russ1642: iheartscotch: AngryDragon: Yeah.

If a 12-gauge isn't going to slow ol' Smoky down, you can be DAMN sure pepper spray isn't gonna do squat.

A slug might, if you hit the bear in the right place and if the bear is small.

Pepper spray is a better deterrent than bullets. It messes up their sense of smell. They can tolerate pain from a bullet much easier.

It would be even better to make as much noise as you can, stay in large groups, avoid areas with bear clawed trees, pay attention to your surroundings and never get between a momma grizzly and her baby.

I was saying that a 12 gauge slug might, MIGHT, take out a bear. It's better to avoid bears completely.

/ pepper spray is good; but, you don't want to be forced to use it

The whole 'make a lot of noise' thing is dumb. Hikers that rely on bear bells or singing are just begging to get eaten. Sounds good in theory but in practice it sucks. You just can't talk for ten hours straight and bear bells are the most annoying thing ever. You go hiking to hear the sounds of nature, not farking Santa. The proper way is to plan on getting attacked. Do your best to prevent it but plan for the worst. Pepper spray, bear bangers, and big knives (guns if you're an American) should be at the ready at all times. Don't even walk off for a piss without these on you.

Bear bells are annoying; but, they do perform an important function. My bells are permanently attached to my pack; after a while, you don't notice them. I've gone on week long hikes, and, even bear bangers add extra weight you might regret having; much less a big .45-70 or something of that nature along for bears. A knife? For a bear? I always bring a pocket knife; but, you're never going to fight a bear off with a knife, even if you have a Bowie.

/ singing is good for moral, it gives you a rhythm; I realize it's not for everybody though.


Bear bangers are very light. The cartridges are featherweight and the launcher is the weight of a pen. I consider it ulralight gear. Knives are last resort and if you're down to using just that then hell why not go out swinging? I really only carry a knife for cougar protection as the advice is to fight back and hitting them with spray is very hard when they're on you. They come out of nowhere and you're getting mauled before you know what's going on. I figure my chances are slightly improved if I have an accessible knife, and greatly improved if I'm helping a friend who's being attacked. I know someone who was attacked by a cougar and another who was killed by a black bear. I take it seriously.
 
2013-07-04 04:44:43 PM

Taylor Mental: Just so everyone is clear - brown bears and Grizzlies are the same. Black bears are the ones most of us have running around in the back yard here in the lower 48. Yes, in the backyard. We're pushing out development into their roaming grounds because we don't like living in the inner city with the Nubian class.

/black bears


Do you know how to tell difference between a black bear and a grizzly?

When it's chasing you, climb a tree. The black bear will climb up after you. The grizzly will knock the tree down.

Also, grizzly is a subspecies of brown bear
 
2013-07-04 04:47:44 PM

Somaticasual: Forget that. I always carry Sriracha sauce. When threatened, you cover yourself in it. Sure, you may get eaten, but after developing a taste for the sauce the bear will either limit itself to eating Thai tourists (from santa monica in reality) or people from india.


Personally I cover myself in Sriracha and Ex-Lax. The bear eats you so fast he doesn't even stop to chew, and then you just instantly shoot out the other side and go about your merry way.  It's like a smelly water slide.
 
2013-07-04 04:50:07 PM

big pig peaches: Taylor Mental: Just so everyone is clear - brown bears and Grizzlies are the same. Black bears are the ones most of us have running around in the back yard here in the lower 48. Yes, in the backyard. We're pushing out development into their roaming grounds because we don't like living in the inner city with the Nubian class.

/black bears

Do you know how to tell difference between a black bear and a grizzly?

When it's chasing you, climb a tree. The black bear will climb up after you. The grizzly will knock the tree down.

Also, grizzly is a subspecies of brown bear


Ears are the easiest and fastest way to tell them apart. Next is the snout shape, then the shoulder hump. But for fast identification nothing beats a good view of the ears.
 
Skr
2013-07-04 05:48:33 PM
"proceeding with its cub" mother bears are not to be tangled with.
 
2013-07-04 05:50:44 PM
So is pepper spray a bear version of Frank's Red Hot?
 
2013-07-04 06:07:55 PM
I manage condos in Lake Tahoe for second homeowners. We get complaints that people aren't picking up after their dog, and we explain that its bear sh*t. They get all incredulous and say "that can't be true, how would you know that anyway" and we point out that its the size of their head and full of bits of trash

/city folk
 
2013-07-04 06:55:28 PM
"That individual had a shotgun with him and at that time shot at the bear, hitting the bear," Caravetta said. "But the bear still continued to pursue that individual "

That would be when I poop.
 
2013-07-04 09:38:46 PM
www.improbable.com
 
2013-07-04 11:34:14 PM

Russ1642: The whole 'make a lot of noise' thing is dumb. Hikers that rely on bear bells or singing are just begging to get eaten. Sounds good in theory but in practice it sucks. You just can't talk for ten hours straight and bear bells are the most annoying thing ever. You go hiking to hear the sounds of nature, not farking Santa. The proper way is to plan on getting attacked. Do your best to prevent it but plan for the worst. Pepper spray, bear bangers, and big knives (guns if you're an American) should be at the ready at all times. Don't even walk off for a piss without these on you.


The make noise thing is so that the bear knows you are there. Bears dont really want to eat you of mess with you most of the time -- they just dont like being spooked. I just make a bit of noise every hundred or so meters. Sing a verse, shout... I like to do the call of the great white north and some small part of me is always wishing i will get a response...

Knives are better than hands. Stabby stabby like a meth fueled chimp. But the only time it would come to that would be during a predatory charge and if your being stalked by a bear then... Well... Even a stick would be better than just your hands.

Dont be afraid when you go into the bush. Fear is the mind killer. Dont go expecting the worst because frankly your never really going to enjoy it if your always paranoid something is going to eat you. Pack some bear spray or an airhorn and go about your business.
 
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