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(Info Wars)   DHS decides to run operation "intimidate the shiat out of freedom" today on the 4th of July by hosting nationwide "terror" drills with police in riot gear performing random bag searches   (infowars.com) divider line 172
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2013-07-04 12:57:39 PM

stuffy: Guess there really is no difference between republican and democrats.


See above "one company buys up trusted brand names and plasters their logs on the same sh*t going out the same door" analogy.
 
2013-07-04 12:59:16 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: Therion: Is there a problem, Citizen?

There doesn't appear to be a problem to me.


Dare to be indifferent, champ.
 
2013-07-04 01:01:43 PM

Bumblefark: Dare to be indifferent, champ.


Don't know about you, but I'm grown up enough to know that "freedom" doesn't mean "do whatever the f*ck you want, wherever and whenever you want to".  Apparently that makes me some sort of fascist around here.
 
2013-07-04 01:02:23 PM

bunner: A run on paragraph that makes no freaking sense.

 
2013-07-04 01:02:30 PM
If you people love being in a surveillance and police state so much, you could at least defend the actions vs. just shiatting on those who point it out. It would be marginally more effective.
 
2013-07-04 01:03:25 PM
DNRTA, but regardless, I'm tired of losing personal freedoms in the guise of safety.  Whether it be terrorists, black people, gun nuts, illegal immigrants, drug dealers, etc.

People are going to die.  You cannot legislate the safety of everyone.
 
2013-07-04 01:03:39 PM
mizchief: If you people love being in a surveillance and police state so much

That's a really impressive strawman built on a false premise. Bravo.
 
2013-07-04 01:04:48 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: Bumblefark: Dare to be indifferent, champ.

Don't know about you, but I'm grown up enough to know that "freedom" doesn't mean "do whatever the f*ck you want, wherever and whenever you want to".  Apparently that makes me some sort of fascist around here.


No but it does mean that you can enjoy a day out with your family without having to worry about being stopped and searched by police without any reasonable probable cause.
 
2013-07-04 01:05:29 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: bunner: A run on paragraph that makes no freaking sense.


To you.  And, uh.. so?  Seriously?  Are you just one more ct who comes here to sling piss at other posters?  Cause I defy you to make me care or participate.  Hint - It's an analogy.  And that is the end of me defending what I wrote.
 
2013-07-04 01:06:49 PM
Considering the fact that police are far more likely to kill you than terrorists, why do they insist that we should feel safer?  Or are they in fact, actually terrorists at this point?
 
2013-07-04 01:07:21 PM

mizchief: No but it does mean that you can enjoy a day out with your family without having to worry about being stopped and searched by police without any reasonable probable cause.


I saw nothing in that sign that indicated I would get stopped and searched without any reasonable probably cause. But then I'm not paranoid, either.
 
2013-07-04 01:09:18 PM

bunner: To you.  And, uh.. so?  Seriously?  Are you just one more ct who comes here to sling piss at other posters?  Cause I defy you to make me care or participate.  Hint - It's an analogy.  And that is the end of me defending what I wrote.


And yet you cared enough to participate in your own "defense". Nicely done.

And yes, when I see someone post something idiotic, I'll often say so.  Can't do it every time, because then I'd be unable to do anything else!

But this is Fark.  You should know it comes with the territory or GTFO.
 
2013-07-04 01:10:40 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: mizchief: If you people love being in a surveillance and police state so much

That's a really impressive strawman built on a false premise. Bravo.


http://reason.com/archives/2013/07/03/the-surveillance-state-isnt-co mi ng-its-h

You can argue that we aren't quite in a police state since full-city lock downs that include warrantless house-to-house searches only happen when there are dangerous teenagers to catch, but it's hard argue that we are not under constant surveillance.
 
2013-07-04 01:11:47 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: But this is Fark.  You should know it comes with the territory


The ghetto is how you live, not where you live.  Your authority posture smells funny.  See if you can get your money back .  Bye, mister man.
 
2013-07-04 01:12:04 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Considering the fact that police are far more likely to kill you than terrorists, why do they insist that we should feel safer?  Or are they in fact, actually terrorists at this point?




Actually, terrorists are safer, statistically.
 
2013-07-04 01:13:37 PM

mizchief: You can argue that we aren't quite in a police state since...

...

I know what a police state is.
 
2013-07-04 01:15:11 PM

bunner: Zulu_as_Kono: But this is Fark.  You should know it comes with the territory

The ghetto is how you live, not where you live.  Your authority posture smells funny.  See if you can get your money back .  Bye, mister man.


Again with the not making sense.  I know it's a holiday buy you might want to slow down and pace yourself a little.  God help you if this is how you are sober.

I mean, if you write stuff and don't care if other people can understand your point, you're just jacking off.
 
2013-07-04 01:16:51 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: mizchief: No but it does mean that you can enjoy a day out with your family without having to worry about being stopped and searched by police without any reasonable probable cause.

I saw nothing in that sign that indicated I would get stopped and searched without any reasonable probably cause. But then I'm not paranoid, either.


3. Police will be conducting searches of bags and coolers for reasons of public saftey

You can of course be searched at anytime given probable cause, however when they put it on a sign as special rules for entry into what I assume is a public park, I think most people would assume that these searches will be either random or mandatory to enter the park.

Like someone else said they would never wear a backpack to a large event. When we are at the point where you have to make decisions based on avoiding police harassment when your otherwise just going about your business and harming no one, we have a problem.
 
2013-07-04 01:18:09 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: Bumblefark: Dare to be indifferent, champ.

Don't know about you, but I'm grown up enough to know that "freedom" doesn't mean "do whatever the f*ck you want, wherever and whenever you want to".  Apparently that makes me some sort of fascist around here.


Didn't say that.

I would say that a well-adjusted adult could look at a sign like that, giggle or scowl (probably both) at the unintended irony, and continue on their merry way.

If you need to make a point of missing the irony, you might be protesting a bit too much.
 
2013-07-04 01:19:13 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: Don't know about you, but I'm grown up enough to know that "freedom" doesn't mean "do whatever the f*ck you want, wherever and whenever you want to".


Yes, these people are way out of line thinking they can be free of unreasonable search and seizure like promised in the constitution.

Things are only going to get worse, and when the police are going house to house searching everyone without warrants or probable cause i hope you all remember how you fought so hard online to allow it.
 
2013-07-04 01:21:05 PM

mizchief: When we are at the point where you have to make decisions based on avoiding police harassment when your otherwise just going about your business and harming no one, we have a problem.


Let's all just decide to become rich white men.

Think of the boost to the economy from sales of golf clubs and slow jazz.
 
2013-07-04 01:26:10 PM

mizchief: 3. Police will be conducting searches of bags and coolers for reasons of public saftey

You can of course be searched at anytime given probable cause, however when they put it on a sign as special rules for entry into what I assume is a public park, I think most people would assume that these searches will be either random or mandatory to enter the park.

Like someone else said they would never wear a backpack to a large event. When we are at the point where you have to make decisions based on avoiding police harassment when your otherwise just going about your business and harming no one, we have a problem.


Don't know how I skipped over #3. But those are special rules for a particular day, and I hardly imagine cops will be frisking people or anything like that. Haven't you ever been to a ballpark or something where they do a bag check? Big f-ing deal. It's not like attendance is mandatory or something.

And I don't know - having a cop ask me to show him my bag is a far far leap from "harassment".

The thing that's funniest to me about all the hysterics over the security measures at Boston's 4th of July concert is that the same people who are screaming ninnies over "they're crushing our freedom" would be  yelling the loudest about how the cops didn't do enough, if God forbid something happened.  Folks just like to complain.
 
2013-07-04 01:27:51 PM

Bumblefark: Didn't say that.


Didn't say anything about irony, either. Sport.
 
2013-07-04 01:30:04 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Yes, these people are way out of line thinking they can be free of unreasonable search and seizure like promised in the constitution.

Things are only going to get worse, and when the police are going house to house searching everyone without warrants or probable cause i hope you all remember how you fought so hard online to allow it.


There is nothing stopping them from being free from unreasonable search and seizure.

I'm not fighting to allow anything. I'm trying to point out to the hysterics just how hysterical they're being. And trying to encourage them to get a f*cking spine and stop declaring defeat so easily.
 
2013-07-04 01:37:44 PM

fnordfocus: mizchief: When we are at the point where you have to make decisions based on avoiding police harassment when your otherwise just going about your business and harming no one, we have a problem.

Let's all just decide to become rich white men.

Think of the boost to the economy from sales of golf clubs and slow jazz.


Was that supposed to make any kind of sense?
 
2013-07-04 01:40:45 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: bunner: Zulu_as_Kono: But this is Fark.  You should know it comes with the territory

The ghetto is how you live, not where you live.  Your authority posture smells funny.  See if you can get your money back .  Bye, mister man.

Again with the not making sense.  I know it's a holiday buy you might want to slow down and pace yourself a little.  God help you if this is how you are sober.

I mean, if you write stuff and don't care if other people can understand your point, you're just jacking off.


And if you can't understand basic nuance, and post about how it makes no sense, you're wasting space.

Stop wasting space.
 
2013-07-04 02:09:43 PM

joonyer: And if you can't understand basic nuance, and post about how it makes no sense, you're wasting space.

Stop wasting space.


Hey, thanks for your contribution there, champ.

Apparently, that guy wanted to communicate something to me, and I wanted to let him know he had failed, so that he could try again.  Nuance? Get bent. He strung together four sentences that make little sense individually, and less when strung together.  Since you seem to speak his language, maybe you can translate just what the f*ck he was trying to say.
 
2013-07-04 02:13:55 PM
Terrorists found: 0
People harassed, inconvenienced, and publicly humiliated: 46,394,781

All in the name of freedom, right?
 
2013-07-04 02:15:10 PM
Oh, look, another hysteric. With a name like that, I wouldn't expect such a coward.
 
2013-07-04 02:28:38 PM

FatherChaos: Terrorists found: 0
People harassed, inconvenienced, and publicly humiliated: 46,394,781

All in the name of freedom, right?


Move along, citizen.
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2013-07-04 02:30:30 PM

FatherChaos: 46,394,781


at the same time?
 
2013-07-04 02:37:26 PM

olapbill: FatherChaos: 46,394,781

at the same time?


They're working on it.
 
2013-07-04 02:41:19 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Obama's personal army assuring he doesn't meet the same fate as Morsi.

Psssst: It's Infowars. The total opposite of reality.
 
2013-07-04 02:41:23 PM
I understand the need for security, but holy hell, DHS should not be in charge of a Boy Scout parade, let alone actual security. Can we just get someone with some basic competence and PR skills to do this, please?

/Sure, it's InfoWars, but what are the odds it  isn't true, given typical DHS shenanigans?
 
2013-07-04 02:45:55 PM

badhatharry: TV's Vinnie: I wish Fark had the wisdom of You Tube and banish this Alex Jones horsesh*t.

Right. Censorship is Wisdom. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.


please stop drinking the kool-aid.


Only if you stop drinking the tard-aid.
 
2013-07-04 02:50:58 PM

PsiChick: Sure, it's InfoWars, but what are the odds it  isn't true, given typical DHS shenanigans?


And this is why when we let news organizations become vest pocket propaganda arms for people protecting moneyed agendas or web sites selling urgency or "who's your pal?" talking heads as being of unimpeachable credibility, we lost the plot.  We don't need any more dime store messiahs.  We need Walter Cronkite.
 
2013-07-04 03:00:16 PM

bunner: olapbill: FatherChaos: 46,394,781

at the same time?

They're working on it.


on the way to the parking lot?
 
2013-07-04 03:25:25 PM
FTFA: "Officials claim the drills are to make the public feel "safe" in light of claims that the alleged Boston Bombers had planned a July 4 terror attack in New York. "

Really, is there anything, short of disbanding, that the Department of Homeland Security can do to make us feel safer?  And do you know of anybody who was worried that the Boston Marathon bombers, either the dead one or the captured one, were planning something for today?
 
2013-07-04 03:31:52 PM

Mike_LowELL: the abuse of presidential power.


List for us a single thing that Obama's done that's been an abuse of presidential power.  Do you think for a moment that a black president can do anything, legal or not, that's not scrutinized to within an inch of its life?  Faux News is already exploding daily over shiat Obama didn't do.

Go ahead, list one thing.  I'll help:
1,):
 
2013-07-04 03:35:20 PM

cig-mkr: Complete lock down of an entire city, no fly zone, public and private transportation stopped, swat team house to house searches, cell towers shut down in Boston just to find one teenager who may or may not be armed (or had a bomb) was the beginning of the end for personal freedoms.
I wouldn't take a backpack to a fireworks display, but some folks will and they will be searched. Anytime there will be big crowds this kind of activity will continue to happen. Boston was the first time, but won't be the last. It was a practice run for law enforcement.


I'm sitting on the lawn at Mt. Vernon right now. No security at all here.
But if we go down to the mall for fireworks tonight, they'll search our bags before letting us in to the 'safety zone'- a fenced-off area around the mall.

And this year, they're saying no backpacks. How the hell are you supposed to have a picnic?
 
2013-07-04 03:35:58 PM

Aquapope: Really, is there anything, short of disbanding, that the Department of Homeland Security can do to make us feel safer?


At this juncture, no.
 
2013-07-04 03:38:00 PM

TheMysticS: How the hell are you supposed to have a picnic?


Your kitchen broken, komrade?  You are forced to eat in the public streets?  You shame the glory of the proletariat.
 
2013-07-04 03:42:47 PM

Aquapope: And do you know of anybody who was worried that the Boston Marathon bombers, either the dead one or the captured one, were planning something for today?


It is well known that they were originally planning to bomb the Esplanade today, but finished making the bombs early.  There could be copycats. But most folks up here aren't worried.
 
2013-07-04 03:44:10 PM

TheMysticS: And this year, they're saying no backpacks. How the hell are you supposed to have a picnic?


You could adjust?  It's really not that hard.  But then, anyone who actually goes to the Esplanade on the 4th is probably mentally damaged somehow to begin with, so it could be difficult for them.
 
2013-07-04 03:45:01 PM
Ahahahaha so is there any way that this raid was mistaken for farking whatever the hell they're blathering on about? Yeah the drug war is stupid too and those cops woke up early on July 4th to bust a bunch of idiots.
 
2013-07-04 03:46:42 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: There could be copycats.


Doesn't that go for everywhere, every day?  I doubt you're that afraid, but I know my parents are ("What if they do another Oklahoma City right here?  RIGHT HERE??)  They vote republican, the party of fear.
 
2013-07-04 03:46:55 PM

bunner: TheMysticS: How the hell are you supposed to have a picnic?

Your kitchen broken, komrade?  You are forced to eat in the public streets?  You shame the glory of the proletariat.


You has a goofy.


I forgot to say-
Happy Independence Day all you American Farkers!
 
2013-07-04 03:48:52 PM

TheMysticS: You has a goofy.


I forgot to say-
Happy Independence Day all you American Farkers!


Thank you for having a working sense of humor in a sea of harrumphing dolts making their declarations of authority.  It's refreshing.  Happy blowed up good day.
 
2013-07-04 03:50:17 PM
id say better than half the people on this thread would gladly bend over and take a cavity search if someone told them it was for there own safety.
 
2013-07-04 03:55:23 PM
I'll go you one better.  I'll bet 70% of the people on this site use it to posit broad and baseless assumptions as discourse.
 
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