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(Tech Crunch)   The TSA Instagramming photos of confiscated items may seem like a waste of our tax dollars, but look at it this way - some agent has to stop groping kids and grandmas to post them, right?   (techcrunch.com) divider line 65
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2013-07-04 08:43:59 AM  
"Waste of our tax dollars"? How much do you think it costs for someone to snap an instagram?
 
2013-07-04 09:05:21 AM  

LasersHurt: "Waste of our tax dollars"? How much do you think it costs for someone to snap an instagram?


Probably not a lot, unless there's enough of it going on for there to be a person dedicated to this at every airport - which is unlikely.  But whatever random agent snaps the photo has to send it to the "TSA Blog Team," which appears to be a  thing now, presumably with some descriptive info, and so on and so forth.  And that agent wouldn't  be working the checkpoint if they were able to make significantly more money elsewhere due to their high-level skills in photography, writing, and technology, right?  So, let's say it takes a half-hour for this all to transpire, and costs the taxpayers, oh, ten bucks.

Of course, the "TSA Blog Team" are probably salaried desk-jobbers in DC or wherever, who we're stuck paying for regardless of whether anyone finds anything prohibited or not...
 
2013-07-04 09:14:25 AM  
They've got some extra cash having recently shut down the wireless and mimeograph departments. FAX department should be able to hold on for another quarter century though.
 
2013-07-04 09:59:57 AM  
I have no love for the TSA but people biatch about "their" precious tax dollars being wasted on the wrong things.
 
2013-07-04 10:00:24 AM  

dbirchall: But whatever random agent snaps the photo has to send it to the "TSA Blog Team," which appears to be a thing now, presumably with some descriptive info, and so on and so forth


I assume taking a picture of a confiscated item is part of the normal process for confiscating an item.  All the reports come in to the "TSA blog team" (one guy at a desk making $50k or less) who looks at them and posts the ones he likes during his free time.
 
2013-07-04 10:03:48 AM  
Anyhow, the TSA blog has had some pretty good moments at times when people have gotten on the media with fake allegations of groping or other mistreatment.  They just post all the available security footage with a "see what really happened" and it usually becomes pretty apparent that the complainer is wildly exaggerating.
 
2013-07-04 10:30:05 AM  
Subby- that is the way any normal business would operate. The TsA is a government operation, meaning they will just hire an extra person or 3000.
 
2013-07-04 11:51:26 AM  
Granny groping would be more productive if it were a private sector endeavor.
 
2013-07-04 11:53:07 AM  
Reading the photo comments is like reading fark...
 
2013-07-04 11:54:51 AM  
"groping", Subby?
Thats a strange term for Pedophilia. Otherwise known as a child molester.

/but under martial law, whats the law matter anyways.
//Knee to their face is legally called 'self defense' when they fondle you or your kid and is fully permissible for you to do under the law.
///Bonus points if you break their nose or eye socket bone.
 
2013-07-04 12:11:23 PM  
TSA should stop this immediately and instead hire a top Madison Avenue ad firm to create a campaign and then buy air time on the top tv channels to broadcast the new "don't bring this" advertisements. Be sure to include multiple commercials during the Super Bowl. It's the only way to be sure everyone knows not to bring a morning star to the airport without wasting five seconds of some TSA agent's time.
 
2013-07-04 12:14:09 PM  

LasersHurt: "Waste of our tax dollars"? How much do you think it costs for someone to snap an instagram?


Well... if it costs ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS to send 0bummer back to Kenya and all the other Africas, i dunno... what? Like... ten cents?
 
2013-07-04 12:28:46 PM  
I'm more outraged that they're using instagram. Enough with the shiatty filters that make a perfectly decent snapshot look like a 70's Polaroid already.
 
2013-07-04 12:34:52 PM  
Subby, some TSA workers can multitask: groping granny and posting pics

blog.timesunion.com
 
2013-07-04 12:39:56 PM  
What they don't tell you is that they take the pictures with an iPad they stole out of someone's checked luggage.
 
2013-07-04 12:50:13 PM  
tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com
Gun knife?  WTF is that even used for since I doubt it shoots knives.
 
2013-07-04 01:04:47 PM  
the question was ask in the comments but not answered. anyone know what happens to the guns?
 
2013-07-04 01:20:10 PM  

sheep snorter: "groping", Subby?
Thats a strange term for Pedophilia. Otherwise known as a child molester.

/but under martial law, whats the law matter anyways.
//Knee to their face is legally called 'self defense' when they fondle you or your kid and is fully permissible for you to do under the law.
///Bonus points if you break their nose or eye socket bone.


But.. as there are many witnesses about to see that your precious life was not actually threatened, self defense would be a hard one to prove- you'd probably just end up in prison for assault on an agent of the government.
Bonus points when you find yourself to be the prison biatch
 
2013-07-04 01:26:09 PM  
FYI

at the courthouse where i worked for a while
the security guards had been given picures of things to look for

over the course of time the story changed
and they became pictures of what had been confiscated

just sayin those posted pictures might not all be exactly current
 
2013-07-04 01:29:14 PM  

clowncar on fire: sheep snorter: "groping", Subby?
Thats a strange term for Pedophilia. Otherwise known as a child molester.

/but under martial law, whats the law matter anyways.
//Knee to their face is legally called 'self defense' when they fondle you or your kid and is fully permissible for you to do under the law.
///Bonus points if you break their nose or eye socket bone.

But.. as there are many witnesses about to see that your precious life was not actually threatened, self defense would be a hard one to prove- you'd probably just end up in prison for assault on an agent of the government.
Bonus points when you find yourself to be the prison biatch


Claiming self-defense isn't justified against sexual assault, only to defend life?
 
2013-07-04 01:31:02 PM  

Curious: the question was ask in the comments but not answered. anyone know what happens to the guns?


Weaponry would be considered evidence gathered at the scene of a crime.  Probably held as evidence until the case is cleared- longer if there were a conviction.  I'm not sure if it would be returned to the owner afterward under special circumstances (gun belonged to a federal agency or security business, or if reported stolen, returned to its original owner)- probably just destroyed.
 
2013-07-04 01:36:05 PM  

PsyLord: [tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]
Gun knife?  WTF is that even used for since I doubt it shoots knives.


It shoots at knives. Cause they think they're so sharp.
 
2013-07-04 01:40:51 PM  

Lochsteppe: PsyLord: [tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]
Gun knife?  WTF is that even used for since I doubt it shoots knives.

It shoots at knives. Cause they think they're so sharp.


And it's camo so they'll never see it coming.
 
2013-07-04 01:41:01 PM  
Aside from the TSA trying to write jokes

Why are 50 people a week carrying loaded guns through the security lines? that's over 2,000 idiots a year, that  does not bode well for our education system
 
2013-07-04 01:46:03 PM  

Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: sheep snorter: "groping", Subby?
Thats a strange term for Pedophilia. Otherwise known as a child molester.

/but under martial law, whats the law matter anyways.
//Knee to their face is legally called 'self defense' when they fondle you or your kid and is fully permissible for you to do under the law.
///Bonus points if you break their nose or eye socket bone.

But.. as there are many witnesses about to see that your precious life was not actually threatened, self defense would be a hard one to prove- you'd probably just end up in prison for assault on an agent of the government.
Bonus points when you find yourself to be the prison biatch

Claiming self-defense isn't justified against sexual assault, only to defend life?


I don't believe a pat-down as part of a federally sanctioned search in the company of several witnesses would be considered sexual assault so much as an inconvenience or possibly an uncomfortable invasion of your personal space.  Hardly worth crippling or possible killing another human being or the ensuing jail time served for assault on a federal agent just to prove the government are fascists.

Define sexual assault?  Full on rape or accidently brushing a nipple during a pat down?  I'd think a simple pushing away of the offenders hand and a stern "don't touch me there" would be all that is needed, especially if you were in the company of other passengers.  Being assaulted in a "interrogation room" with no apparent witness or help would be a little more life threatening and may warrant a busted nose as you so prescribe.
 
2013-07-04 02:00:04 PM  

PsyLord: [tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]
Gun knife?  WTF is that even used for since I doubt it shoots knives.


i317.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-04 02:01:12 PM  

Kanemano: Aside from the TSA trying to write jokes

Why are 50 people a week carrying loaded guns through the security lines? that's over 2,000 idiots a year, that  does not bode well for our education system


Some people JUST DON"T GET IT.  That's why we have written law- for those who just don't get it.  The death of common sense...
 
2013-07-04 02:05:02 PM  

PsyLord: [tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]
Gun knife?  WTF is that even used for since I doubt it shoots knives.


When your amo is gone or you find yourself fighting in close quarters, needing to kill silently.   Probably no different than a bayonet.
 
2013-07-04 02:17:06 PM  
Number of Instagram Accounts by the TSA: 1
Number of terrorists caught by the TSA: 0
 
2013-07-04 02:31:50 PM  
Any pics of the money they steal?
 
2013-07-04 02:43:52 PM  

LessO2: Number of Instagram Accounts by the TSA: 1
Number of terrorists caught by the TSA: 0


Maybe no terrorists caught, that does not mean that terrorism was not prevented as a result of their actions.  Pulling weaponry off people 50 times a day seems to speak volumes when it comes to preventing certain types of weaponry from being brought into the aircraft.  The problem with prevention is you can't measure it other than to say that an event did not occur.  Should the event occur repeatedly with prevention in place, it only proves that your screening process  (prevention) is failing.  The lack of an event from occurring, is not necessarily proof that the process is working but on the other hand does not support your assertion that the TSA methods are failing.

The way I see it- we go back to the way things were before the TSA existed and an event does occur, this would only prove  that the methodology of the TSA was effective and they would probably double any sort authority the TSA currently holds.

Your best bet would be as cooperative as you can for now- don't keep giving them reasons to exist by trying to sneak by contraband-- and eventually the hub-bub will burn itself out.
 
2013-07-04 02:47:19 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Any pics of the money they steal?


Any proof that they steal money or just the tales of disgruntled passengers?
 
2013-07-04 03:02:58 PM  
Someone needs to start uploading photos of banned stuff that people accidentally or on purpose got past the TSA. Every time the feds or reporters run a test, they seem to be able to get entire weapons caches past the TSA molester brigade.

/Don't TSA me bro!
 
2013-07-04 03:12:05 PM  

PsyLord: [tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]
Gun knife?  WTF is that even used for since I doubt it shoots knives.


You can take the gun knife on a plane made out of guns that shoots guns.
 
2013-07-04 03:24:09 PM  

jjorsett: Someone needs to start uploading photos of banned stuff that people accidentally or on purpose got past the TSA. Every time the feds or reporters run a test, they seem to be able to get entire weapons caches past the TSA molester brigade.

/Don't TSA me bro!


You will need to take pics of yourself in the cabin of the aircraft with your contraband to prove you successfully made it by security.  Good luck with that and be sure to post the results on Facebook as well.
 
2013-07-04 03:31:44 PM  
Need more of these:

www.coldsteel.com

Or these:

www.trueswords.com
 
2013-07-04 04:13:24 PM  

clowncar on fire: Maybe no terrorists caught, that does not mean that terrorism was not prevented as a result of their actions.


Millions, nay  billions of imagined terrorists attacks were prevented as a result of their actions. Probably even more. We don't have any way of possibly quantifying it, but what we can quantify is the volume of contraband secured at checkpoints. And it's a lot. So if we add that to all the things that weren't counted because it passed through the checkpoint unnoticed, why, a nearly infinite number of terrorists attacks have been prevented!
</sarcasm>

There are only two things that have made air travel safer. First, we've stopped pretending that it's still the 70s, and that the common wisdom regarding skyjackings no longer holds. Instead of waiting, passengers know to respond immediately. Second, the cockpit door is secured.

Nothing done at a TSA checkpoint is useful, unless you count "employing the unemployable" as "useful".
 
2013-07-04 04:14:57 PM  

clowncar on fire: I don't believe a pat-down as part of a federally sanctioned search in the company of several witnesses would be considered sexual

...

Like blue latex humiliation exhibitionism isn't totally a real fetish on fetlife
 
2013-07-04 04:18:07 PM  

Kanemano: Aside from the TSA trying to write jokes

Why are 50 people a week carrying loaded guns through the security lines? that's over 2,000 idiots a year, that  does not bode well for our education system


If ALL of those were just from the Atlanta airport it would be 1 in 47,000 people. You really don't think there are that many brain dead in the US? Last year in Atlanta alone the TSA cost the US 137.5 lifetimes wasted arriving early, standing in line to be groped. One year, one airport.
 
2013-07-04 04:20:17 PM  
Pointless kabuki theater is pointless
 
2013-07-04 04:39:42 PM  

sheep snorter: "groping", Subby?
Thats a strange term for Pedophilia. Otherwise known as a child molester.

/but under martial law, whats the law matter anyways.
//Knee to their face is legally called 'self defense' when they fondle you or your kid and is fully permissible for you to do under the law.
///Bonus points if you break their nose or eye socket bone.


Yeah just like how pediatricians are child molesters too right?
 
2013-07-04 04:49:51 PM  

clowncar on fire: BarkingUnicorn: Any pics of the money they steal?

Any proof that they steal money or just the tales of disgruntled passengers?


How about the testimony of one of their own?

http://rt.com/usa/tsa-stealing-from-travelers-358/
 
2013-07-04 06:00:49 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: clowncar on fire: BarkingUnicorn: Any pics of the money they steal?

Any proof that they steal money or just the tales of disgruntled passengers?

How about the testimony of one of their own?

http://rt.com/usa/tsa-stealing-from-travelers-358/


I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is not unique to the TSA- not unique to any field actually, where people are: 1  underpaid and/or feel maltreated  2. work with a large amount of "anonymously owned" property 3 feel (or know) that they are not being monitored while handling all that property.  In this case, there is no security to monitor the security.  Total recipe for disaster in any occupation.  Theft in any occupation is wrong- and frustrating-- but not unique to the TSA.

FTA:  Many officers don't care about their work and complain about low pay and being treated badly, he claims, which prompts them to steal. To make it even easier to get away with, TSA managers also never search their employees' bags.

'Nuff said.  I'll be careful with the few valuables I travel with.  But then again- I only carry what I need and tend to keep my valuables on my person so not that big a deal.
 
2013-07-04 06:22:07 PM  

PsyLord: [tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]
Gun knife?  WTF is that even used for since I doubt it shoots knives.


Never bring a gun-knife to a knife-gun fight.

Also: knife-gun
i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-04 06:22:57 PM  

t3knomanser: clowncar on fire: Maybe no terrorists caught, that does not mean that terrorism was not prevented as a result of their actions.

Millions, nay  billions of imagined terrorists attacks were prevented as a result of their actions. Probably even more. We don't have any way of possibly quantifying it, but what we can quantify is the volume of contraband secured at checkpoints. And it's a lot. So if we add that to all the things that weren't counted because it passed through the checkpoint unnoticed, why, a nearly infinite number of terrorists attacks have been prevented!
</sarcasm>

There are only two things that have made air travel safer. First, we've stopped pretending that it's still the 70s, and that the common wisdom regarding skyjackings no longer holds. Instead of waiting, passengers know to respond immediately. Second, the cockpit door is secured.

Nothing done at a TSA checkpoint is useful, unless you count "employing the unemployable" as "useful".


How do you exactly measure their "usefulness" when what they prevent is not occurring?  The days of "catching a ride to Cuba" actually ended back in the mid 70's when terrorists went balls out "to the death".  While the TSA is not perfect, they are an effective way of screening out the obvious stuff that apparently use to get through.  It's going to take a little more than carrying a gun in your laptop or knife in your shoe to bring a plane down.  Their weaponry has become more sophisticated than a locked door. As annoying or invasive as it is, the TSA has the resources to find this new weaponry.  I wouldn't depend on a plane full of scared passengers as my final line of defense, but coupled with the TSA as your first line of defense, and a plan of defense should a plane be taken, it's going to make it a little more difficult to use a plane as a guided missile or take down nowadays.

Problem is, the bad guy will probably adapt and will eventually be happy strapping on a bomb and walking into a large sporting or entertainment venue on the next go around so for the time being- taking down a plane is no longer worth the effort so why even bother, right?.
 
2013-07-04 06:40:02 PM  

clowncar on fire: BarkingUnicorn: clowncar on fire: BarkingUnicorn: Any pics of the money they steal?

Any proof that they steal money or just the tales of disgruntled passengers?

How about the testimony of one of their own?

http://rt.com/usa/tsa-stealing-from-travelers-358/

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is not unique to the TSA- not unique to any field actually, where people are: 1  underpaid and/or feel maltreated  2. work with a large amount of "anonymously owned" property 3 feel (or know) that they are not being monitored while handling all that property.  In this case, there is no security to monitor the security.  Total recipe for disaster in any occupation.  Theft in any occupation is wrong- and frustrating-- but not unique to the TSA.

FTA:  Many officers don't care about their work and complain about low pay and being treated badly, he claims, which prompts them to steal. To make it even easier to get away with, TSA managers also never search their employees' bags.

'Nuff said.  I'll be careful with the few valuables I travel with.  But then again- I only carry what I need and tend to keep my valuables on my person so not that big a deal.


FTFY
 
2013-07-04 06:53:53 PM  

clowncar on fire: but coupled with the TSA as your first line of defense


The TSA isn't a defensive line- it's a frickin' chorus line. It's a song and dance routine at the Security Theater. When security professionals probe TSA checkpoints (for the TSA's own internal testing, not John Q. Yahoo), the checkpoint nearly always lets bomb components through. Their detection rate certainly doesn't merit the money we spend on them.

They're the Mall Ninjas of the "War on Terror".
 
2013-07-04 07:08:22 PM  

t3knomanser: The TSA isn't a defensive line- it's a frickin' chorus line. It's a song and dance routine at the Security Theater.


It's like when I take my nieces and nephews to Disney World, we have to wait a half hour while they inspect everyone's bag. They never did that before 9/11. And no one minds it now. But now they root around in everyone's tiny handbag while I walk by with cargo pants that could hold a handgun and enough C4 to blow up Space Mountain.

shiat, I'm on some kind of list now.
 
2013-07-04 07:42:05 PM  

Mugato: t3knomanser: The TSA isn't a defensive line- it's a frickin' chorus line. It's a song and dance routine at the Security Theater.

It's like when I take my nieces and nephews to Disney World, we have to wait a half hour while they inspect everyone's bag. They never did that before 9/11. And no one minds it now. But now they root around in everyone's tiny handbag while I walk by with cargo pants that could hold a handgun and enough C4 to blow up Space Mountain.

shiat, I'm on some kind of list now.


Probably not ,  because you are not talking about a water bottle and enough CO2 to blow it up.
 
2013-07-04 08:32:49 PM  

Kanemano: Aside from the TSA trying to write jokes

Why are 50 people a week carrying loaded guns through the security lines? that's over 2,000 idiots a year, that  does not bode well for our education system


Because they can. THIS IS AMERICA DAMMIT I HAVE A RIGHT TO OWN GUNZ!!!

Alternatively: Because they're idiots. You mean I can't take my gun on a plane, why not?
 
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