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(NW Florida Daily News)   Apparently in Florida it's illegal to arrange the money in your wallet by denomination because that's called 'street folding' and it's what drug dealers do   (nwfdailynews.com) divider line 146
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2013-07-04 08:18:48 AM
It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.
 
2013-07-04 08:23:07 AM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


this..... way to be full of shiat subby.  If you said apparently in florida its illegal to be a man because its what drug dealers are then that would have been just as accurate.
 
2013-07-04 09:05:02 AM
It's called "folding", and it's illegal.

/obscure?
 
2013-07-04 09:06:36 AM
whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though
 
2013-07-04 09:08:20 AM

GooberMcFly: It's called "folding", and it's illegal.

/obscure?


No. Kiting.
 
2013-07-04 09:08:20 AM
are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already
 
2013-07-04 09:09:25 AM
Way to troll, subby.  Born stupid or just work really hard at it?
 
2013-07-04 09:09:33 AM
Just sprinkle some crack on him
 
2013-07-04 09:10:27 AM
Drug dealers also poop, I'm told.
 
2013-07-04 09:10:38 AM
Those damn blind dope dealers.
 
2013-07-04 09:11:15 AM
I tried to google this and all I got was Ben Folds videos, I think the cops made it up.
 
2013-07-04 09:11:37 AM

danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already


No That's CDO.

/put the letters in the *correct* order.
 
2013-07-04 09:12:57 AM
Anyone with any amount of money, in any form, has definitely done something illegal at some point in their life.
Best give it to me.
 
2013-07-04 09:13:02 AM
WTF are they talking about?  How does arranging money have anything to do with "intent to distribute"?  This crap about being able to legally determine intent is pure crap.

It sounds like another BS way to make innocent people seem guilty.
 
2013-07-04 09:13:16 AM
Keep the $1 bill flat and unfolded.Fold the $5 bill in half crosswise (with the short ends together).Fold the $10 bill in half lengthwise (with the long sides together).Fold the $20 bill like a $10 bill lengthwise, and then in half again crosswise, like the $5 bill:
Surely it's not this simple. Must be a way to grab money from your wallet without taking your eyes off the junkie.
 
2013-07-04 09:13:34 AM

danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already


I stopped carrying cash largely because I got sick of being " that guy" holding up the checkout line to reorganize that filthy wadded pile of cash the clerk gave me for change.

/ was even worse when I WAS the clerk, organizing EVERYONE'S money before I put it on the drawer.
 
2013-07-04 09:14:23 AM
I have to say, it's a lot easier than searching through my wallet for the right bills.
 
2013-07-04 09:16:46 AM
I'd better go unsort the bills in my wallet then. I don't want to be considered a drug dealer.
 
2013-07-04 09:17:53 AM
Does not use a wallet:

www.sportsgrid.com
 
2013-07-04 09:18:17 AM
Liar liar,

static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-07-04 09:18:32 AM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


Uh huh. If a rich white kid is caught with an ounce of cocaine and $10K "folded" in his Ferrari, I'm sure that will be used to demonstrate intent.

If sorting bills is intent to commit a crime, then *having* bills is at least as much an indication of intent.

But no matter what, keep us safe, keep us safe, safe, keep us safe from drug dealers.

Safe.
 
2013-07-04 09:19:03 AM
Subby is an idiot.

Wolfman Johnny: Keep the $1 bill flat and unfolded.Fold the $5 bill in half crosswise (with the short ends together).Fold the $10 bill in half lengthwise (with the long sides together).Fold the $20 bill like a $10 bill lengthwise, and then in half again crosswise, like the $5 bill:
Surely it's not this simple. Must be a way to grab money from your wallet without taking your eyes off the junkie.


Blind people also employ this method in their wallets.
 
2013-07-04 09:20:08 AM
How lucky of the police to find a vehicle violation as a premise to stop a known drug dealer.
 
2013-07-04 09:20:34 AM

Wolfman Johnny: Keep the $1 bill flat and unfolded.Fold the $5 bill in half crosswise (with the short ends together).Fold the $10 bill in half lengthwise (with the long sides together).Fold the $20 bill like a $10 bill lengthwise, and then in half again crosswise, like the $5 bill:
Surely it's not this simple. Must be a way to grab money from your wallet without taking your eyes off the junkie.


This.

It also helps keep track of what you sold.
 
2013-07-04 09:21:15 AM
Apparently on FARK it's illegal to read an article and write a headline which comports with it.
 
2013-07-04 09:22:51 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


At the casinos, those people are just gamblers.  Maybe he was on his way to the casino?
 
2013-07-04 09:24:01 AM
Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate.

But seriously... back when I worked retail, the bank would always biatch if we brought the daily deposit over without sorting the bills and having them all face the same way. I still do that with my own money. Much easier than digging for the right denomination.
 
2013-07-04 09:24:16 AM
www.rotorama.com
 
2013-07-04 09:26:28 AM

Kibbler: corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.

Uh huh. If a rich white kid is caught with an ounce of cocaine and $10K "folded" in his Ferrari, I'm sure that will be used to demonstrate intent.

If sorting bills is intent to commit a crime, then *having* bills is at least as much an indication of intent.

But no matter what, keep us safe, keep us safe, safe, keep us safe from drug dealers.

Safe.


The safe way to go is the "jock wad".  Just wad up all your cash like a used tissue and cram into your underwear.  The cops would never be able to call that intent, and it makes them use those blue rubber gloves.
 
2013-07-04 09:27:14 AM
Is this like when they pull someone over whose on their way to go buy a car or something with cash, and they maybe have $5-$10K in cash on them, they seize it as "potential" drug proceeds? Because anyone carrying a lot of cash must be into drugs, right?
 
2013-07-04 09:28:13 AM
I can't find a definition of "street folding" on the internet even. Sounds like more made up cop stuff.
 
2013-07-04 09:29:38 AM

Carn: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

At the casinos, those people are just gamblers.  Maybe he was on his way to the casino?


not so much in the UK. online poker maybe, but you dont need a fat wad of real cash and two mobile phones for that
 
2013-07-04 09:30:34 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


Stereotyping is an incredible time saver!
 
2013-07-04 09:31:01 AM
I don't understand how this helps if it is like the poster above explained it. Wouldn't folded over bills stick when being put into a wallet? Make it harder to shut?
Why not just buy a wallet with different sections for each domination? I have two in mine, on one side I have 20s and on the other 1, 5, and 10s.

/ yeah I'm rollin big time
 
2013-07-04 09:34:13 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


Yup. Those are the only people I've ever seen with huge wads of cash like that.
 
2013-07-04 09:34:34 AM
Found this from the American Foundation For the Blind.


http://www.afb.org/section.aspx?DocumentID=2232
 
2013-07-04 09:34:55 AM

Lady J: Carn: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

At the casinos, those people are just gamblers.  Maybe he was on his way to the casino?

not so much in the UK. online poker maybe, but you dont need a fat wad of real cash and two mobile phones for that


They keep legalizing table games in more and more states here.  There are going to be four casinos within about an hour from DC in a year or two woohoo!
 
2013-07-04 09:37:10 AM
(reads article)

I assume it's still legal if you're white, right?
 
2013-07-04 09:38:11 AM
But I thought drug dealers put their money in hundreds with one note folded over or thousands in a roll with an elastic band then you fill storage boxes with the rolls?

Oh I see, crap dealers...
 
2013-07-04 09:39:26 AM

loser0: (reads article)

I assume it's still legal if you're white, right?


Only if you don`t have the crack...
 
2013-07-04 09:41:34 AM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


I don't if it is true in this case because they didn't say how much crack they found, but the street fold bit is a way for the state to up charges from possession to intent to distribute even if the amount of drugs the person is caught with doesn't meet the requirement for the intent to distribute charge.
 
2013-07-04 09:42:08 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


Overheard one of my neighbors complaining about the local cops pulling him over for that.  OTOH, the combo of the tinted windows & neon undercarriage lighting ( Honda Civic ) attracts the attention of Law Enforcement, IMHO.
 
2013-07-04 09:42:50 AM

loser0: (reads article)

I assume it's still legal if you're white, right?


I think, to tell the truth,  that the idea here is, "Here's a young black man who went to the mental effort of sorting pieces of paper that had numbers on them, and nobody would believe he did that unless he had some kind of criminal intent in mind.  If he didn't, he'd just pull crumpled bills out of his pocket to buy a 40 and a rock, am I right?"

Show me an article where the cops arrest a white guy and cite his money being sorted as evidence of...anything.

"Did we mention that this young black man also had a cell phone?  A CELL PHONE, ladies and gentlemen of the jury!"
 
2013-07-04 09:43:40 AM
typical Jalmel Lafarn Merriel
 
2013-07-04 09:43:47 AM

A Terrible Human: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

Yup. Those are the only people I've ever seen with huge wads of cash like that.


they never have fivers though
 
2013-07-04 09:45:43 AM
Doesn't it just make sense to organize cash by denomination? It's easier to find the cash you need when paying for something. Who wants to be the schlub digging through their wallet at the register?
 
2013-07-04 09:48:47 AM

dready zim: loser0: (reads article)

I assume it's still legal if you're white, right?

Only if you don`t have the crack...

drive a car too nice for your "demographic".

Kibbler: Show me an article where the cops arrest a white guy and cite his money being sorted as evidence of...anything.

 
2013-07-04 09:48:59 AM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


The fact that the arrest for crack was legitimate doesn't justify the use of the fact that he arranged his bills in order to prove anything

It's still asinine and worthy of the Florida tag because the organizing of money has no relevance
 
2013-07-04 09:48:59 AM
Breakin the law, breakin the law...
 
2013-07-04 09:51:13 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

Overheard one of my neighbors complaining about the local cops pulling him over for that.  OTOH, the combo of the tinted windows & neon undercarriage lighting ( Honda Civic ) attracts the attention of Law Enforcement, IMHO.


out and out profiling
 
2013-07-04 09:51:23 AM
izquotes.com
 
2013-07-04 09:53:23 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


Fun fact: Only drug dealers dislike being hot while in a vehicle!
 
2013-07-04 09:53:45 AM

SarcasticFark: Blind people also employ this method in their wallets.


No raise dots on your money? Surprised the ADA hasn't (successfully) fought to get some sort of tactile indicator on the currency. Canadian banknotes have had a braille-like markings for almost a decade now.
 
2013-07-04 09:55:51 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


When I see someone with a shaved head and sunglasses, I think "drug addict" because the court mandated drug tests involve hair samples and they get around that by not having hair.

/also if you drive a pickup or minivan it is because you're fat
 
2013-07-04 09:56:45 AM
did he have a beeper, I've heard thats a sign too.
 
2013-07-04 09:56:56 AM

markfara: Drug dealers also poop, I'm told.


Do they weigh the same as a duck?
 
2013-07-04 10:00:34 AM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also foundplanted.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


I mean I could be wrong, but they "found crack in his ashtray"?  Seems a bit small and a bit convenient.
 
2013-07-04 10:00:58 AM

Kibbler: corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.

Uh huh. If a rich white kid is caught with an ounce of cocaine and $10K "folded" in his Ferrari, I'm sure that will be used to demonstrate intent.

If sorting bills is intent to commit a crime, then *having* bills is at least as much an indication of intent.

But no matter what, keep us safe, keep us safe, safe, keep us safe from drug dealers.

Safe.


If a rich white kid has an ounce of coke, he's way up the creek.
 
2013-07-04 10:02:23 AM

Cataholic: Apparently on FARK it's illegal to read an article and write a headline which comports with it.


I think you are unaware of what "illegal" and "comports" mean.
 
2013-07-04 10:02:46 AM

abhorrent1: Is this like when they pull someone over whose on their way to go buy a car or something with cash, and they maybe have $5-$10K in cash on them, they seize it as "potential" drug proceeds? Because anyone carrying a lot of cash must be into drugs, right?


Car dealerships (at least in Ohio) will not take more than $10,000 cash for car purchases.

http://www.niada.com/PDFs/Publications/USAPatriotAct.pdf
 
2013-07-04 10:04:02 AM
lack of warmth:
The safe way to go is the "jock wad".  Just wad up all your cash like a used tissue and cram into your underwear.  The cops would never be able to call that intent, and it makes them use those blue rubber gloves.

This enough?
i42.tinypic.com

/i don't want to know where you got it
 
2013-07-04 10:04:16 AM

BSABSVR: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

Fun fact: Only drug dealers dislike being hot while in a vehicle!


I live in London dude, it's never that hot.
 
2013-07-04 10:05:01 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


What precinct do you work at, Officer Lady J?
 
2013-07-04 10:05:09 AM
That whole "driving a car" thing is going to be problematic to his "It's ok, I was just blind" defense.
 
2013-07-04 10:07:39 AM

GoldDude: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

What precinct do you work at, Officer Lady J?


hehe
1) it's ok to profile in your head
2) it's not really profiling if you don't care
 
2013-07-04 10:07:46 AM

Mister Peejay: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

When I see someone with a shaved head and sunglasses, I think "drug addict" because the court mandated drug tests involve hair samples and they get around that by not having hair.

/also if you drive a pickup or minivan it is because you're fat


Those cancer victims must be upper level drug dealers, they have taken great lengths to not have any hair whatsoever
 
2013-07-04 10:08:50 AM
My wallet has three distinct sections. I keep my 500's in one section and my 100's in another. The $2 bills go in the third one.

/What do I have if I find two $100's in one pocket and 3 $50's in the other?
//Someone else's pants!
 
2013-07-04 10:09:47 AM
Silly Farkers.  It's not that he arranged his money by denominations, it's how he arranged his money.  And now, you OCD people who have everything arranged by denomination and faced are not going to have problems.
 
2013-07-04 10:10:05 AM
64 comments in and not one person who knows the meaning of the word "apparently." This thread has been a great trolling job by subby with all the bites he got. I not sure if it should be called trolling or downright snagging.
 
2013-07-04 10:10:12 AM

skinink: How lucky of the police to find a vehicle violation as a premise to stop a known drug dealer.


It's this. I'd like to see the dash-cam footage of that inoperative tail light.
 
2013-07-04 10:16:16 AM

danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already


I believe you mean CDO. You know, with the letters arranged alphabetically.
 
2013-07-04 10:17:22 AM

Odoriferous Queef: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already

No That's CDO.

/put the letters in the *correct* order.


dammit.
 
2013-07-04 10:18:45 AM

rev. dave: WTF are they talking about?  How does arranging money have anything to do with "intent to distribute"?  This crap about being able to legally determine intent is pure crap.

It sounds like another BS way to make innocent people seem guilty.


So you didn't bother to RTFA nor read the posts prior to your own.
 
2013-07-04 10:27:28 AM

Latinwolf: rev. dave: WTF are they talking about?  How does arranging money have anything to do with "intent to distribute"?  This crap about being able to legally determine intent is pure crap.

It sounds like another BS way to make innocent people seem guilty.

So you didn't bother to RTFA nor read the posts prior to your own.


His question is valid. Just having crack doesn't automatically bring on intent to distribute. There is a specific amount of crack you have to have to be charged with that over just possession, or have other contributing factors. Having a large sum of money folded in a particular way is one of those contributing factors that they will use to raise drug charges from a possession to an intent to deliver when the amount of drugs you are caught with doesn't meet the minimum threshold for an intent to deliver charge by themselves.

Also cops have been known to use this bullshiat as probable cause to search a vehicle or house.
 
2013-07-04 10:27:46 AM
Oh hai guys.
i.imgur.com

/2 priors, one for possession and one intent to distribute cocaine
//both in 2007
 
2013-07-04 10:32:40 AM
FTA:
According to the report, the deputy stopped Merriel's vehicle for an inoperative tail light. He recognized Merriel from past narcotics-related investigations.
During the stop, a K9 unit alerted to the presence of narcotics in Merriel's vehicle. It was searched and deputies found crack cocaine in the ashtray. They also found large sums of money in both the vehicle and Merriel's wallet, arranged in "street folds," a way that drug dealers maintain separate denominations.

Okay that last piece was dumb, but the suspect was not a random stop. Really some people this thread are going out of their way to make this suspect seem like some angel minding his own business when he was stopped when in truth the cops recognized him from his involvement in previous investigations.
 
2013-07-04 10:32:44 AM
Having RTFA, I hereby charge subby AND the ad-mon who clearly didn't RTFA and greenlit it anyway with Felony Being Stupid In A Built-Up Area.
 
2013-07-04 10:35:49 AM
I always keep the hundreds, fifty's, twenty's in order, doesn't everyone ?
/ anything less the a twenty is chump change.
 
2013-07-04 10:35:58 AM

ongbok: Latinwolf: rev. dave: WTF are they talking about?  How does arranging money have anything to do with "intent to distribute"?  This crap about being able to legally determine intent is pure crap.

It sounds like another BS way to make innocent people seem guilty.

So you didn't bother to RTFA nor read the posts prior to your own.

His question is valid. Just having crack doesn't automatically bring on intent to distribute. There is a specific amount of crack you have to have to be charged with that over just possession, or have other contributing factors. Having a large sum of money folded in a particular way is one of those contributing factors that they will use to raise drug charges from a possession to an intent to deliver when the amount of drugs you are caught with doesn't meet the minimum threshold for an intent to deliver charge by themselves.

Also cops have been known to use this bullshiat as probable cause to search a vehicle or house.


The cop may have made s stupid comment, but according to the article the suspect wasn't charged with distribution, just possession.
 
2013-07-04 10:38:14 AM

Kibbler: If a rich white kid is caught with an ounce of cocaine and $10K "folded" in his Ferrari, I'm sure that will be used to demonstrate intent.


To be fair, an ounce of coke is a pretty substantial amount.
 
2013-07-04 10:39:47 AM

danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me? I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already


Amateur.

I sort my bills by denomination, then serial number in reverse order, same side up and facing the same direction, and with all folds and creases removed.

Why? The serial number is a handy way to tell me when I'm about to run out of a particular denomination without having to rifle through my billfold. The folds and creases thing is for the vending machines at work that despise all humans.
 
2013-07-04 10:40:44 AM

rev. dave: It sounds like another BS way to make innocent people seem guilty.


So the police should just overlook his totally innocent possession of crack cocaine, huh?
 
2013-07-04 10:41:36 AM

rev. dave: WTF are they talking about?  How does arranging money have anything to do with "intent to distribute"?  This crap about being able to legally determine intent is pure crap.

It sounds like another BS way to make innocent people seem guilty.


It's like a woman carrying more than one condom is evidence of prostitution.
 
2013-07-04 10:42:26 AM
My street-folded underwear officer sexy, is an indication of my intent to supply...lurve.

images.bidorbuy.co.za
 
2013-07-04 10:42:42 AM

SourImplant: Kibbler: If a rich white kid is caught with an ounce of cocaine and $10K "folded" in his Ferrari, I'm sure that will be used to demonstrate intent.

To be fair, an ounce of coke is a pretty substantial amount.


I think he is referring to the old mandatory sentencing guidelines where there wasn't any mandatory sentencing for powdered cocaine, but for crack there was, and a very small amount of crack compared to an ounce of cocaine would get you 10 or 15 years mandatory.
 
2013-07-04 10:46:01 AM
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2013-07-04 10:47:00 AM
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2013-07-04 10:47:30 AM

propasaurus: rev. dave: WTF are they talking about?  How does arranging money have anything to do with "intent to distribute"?  This crap about being able to legally determine intent is pure crap.

It sounds like another BS way to make innocent people seem guilty.

It's like a woman carrying more than one condom is evidence of prostitution.


isn't it?
 
2013-07-04 10:53:17 AM
Weak. Cmon mods its the fourth, green some even close to clever links.
 
2013-07-04 10:56:28 AM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


That ranks right up there with "packaged to distribute" and "denominations used by drug dealers".

A guy buys a few bindles of cocaine and gets charged with sales because it's packaged for sale.  It's packaged for sale because it was just sold.  It doesn't magically consolidate itself into a non-sales-type container at the point of sale.  And "You've got fives, tens, and twenties.  Those are the denominations used by drug dealers."  Yeah.  And every other person who carries cash.
 
2013-07-04 11:05:36 AM
 
2013-07-04 11:12:31 AM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


"Whenever you see more then two men sitting in a parked car after dark you can be sure drugs are involved." - George Carlin
 
2013-07-04 11:19:58 AM

Odoriferous Queef: CDO


Odoriferous Queef: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already

No That's CDO.

/put the letters in the *correct* order.


Me personally, I have OCO, Obsessive Compulsive Order.  All the rest of you are disordered.
 
2013-07-04 11:24:33 AM

edmo: I can't find a definition of "street folding" on the internet even. Sounds like more made up cop stuff.


Same here. Aside the TFA, most Google links are about the musician Ben Folds.

Is Ben Folds a drug dealer?

Wolfman Johnny: Keep the $1 bill flat and unfolded.Fold the $5 bill in half crosswise (with the short ends together).Fold the $10 bill in half lengthwise (with the long sides together).Fold the $20 bill like a $10 bill lengthwise, and then in half again crosswise, like the $5 bill:
Surely it's not this simple. Must be a way to grab money from your wallet without taking your eyes off the junkie.


How do you know this (obviously not from Google!)? Are you a drug dealer?
 
2013-07-04 11:25:46 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [i.imgur.com image 400x480]
bargon wanchi pax ke solo, ho ho ho


If that's the guys picture, well he looks like a dealer not a user.
 
2013-07-04 11:27:33 AM
...it's illegal to arrange the money in your wallet by denomination because that's called 'street folding'

nsm05.casimages.com
 
2013-07-04 11:32:16 AM
What a "street fold" may look like

www.muleskinner.ca
 
2013-07-04 11:35:11 AM
DId anyone point out that the Subtard got it wrong, yet?
 
2013-07-04 11:36:37 AM

danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already


It's ok. I arrange my wallet the same way or it drives me bugfark.

/one is rarely alone on fark
 
2013-07-04 11:41:06 AM

Kibbler: loser0: (reads article)

I assume it's still legal if you're white, right?

I think, to tell the truth,  that the idea here is, "Here's a young black man who went to the mental effort of sorting pieces of paper that had numbers on them, and nobody would believe he did that unless he had some kind of criminal intent in mind.  If he didn't, he'd just pull crumpled bills out of his pocket to buy a 40 and a rock, am I right?"

Show me an article where the cops arrest a white guy and cite his money being sorted as evidence of...anything.

"Did we mention that this young black man also had a cell phone?  A CELL PHONE, ladies and gentlemen of the jury!"


Every article about drug arrests ever mentions cash taken.
 
2013-07-04 11:45:20 AM
For all of you beating up on subby, you have to remember this: this was in the USA -- the law could have been real.  That's how farked up that country is.
 
2013-07-04 12:08:43 PM

Xenomech: For all of you beating up on subby, you have to remember this: this was in the USA -- the law could have been real.  That's how farked up that country is.


Not only that, but the article must really like "street folds" - and the reporter probably didn't make that up, the cops probably called it that. And if the cops call it that, the cops consider that a sign of drug-dealing. And if the cops consider that a sign of drug-dealing, they might just consider it probable cause.

So, really, that it's not actually illegal anymore than those old McDonald's coffee spoons were, it's still a farking problem.

/Drug war is the most pernicious thing ever to enter our lives. If I had a choice between getting rid of the PRISM or the drug war, I'd get rid of the drug war any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
 
2013-07-04 12:10:16 PM

danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already




I have family that thinks your an idiot if you don't do that.
 
2013-07-04 12:11:32 PM

Assimilate This: Odoriferous Queef: CDO

Odoriferous Queef: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already

No That's CDO.

/put the letters in the *correct* order.

Me personally, I have OCO, Obsessive Compulsive Order.  All the rest of you are disordered.


I have COO.  It's OCO with the letters in the right order.  Also I'm a pigeon!
 
2013-07-04 12:15:19 PM
My first job as an adult was night shift at circle k, which instilled in me an obsessive need to always properly face my cash money and order it by denomination. Apparently just deigning to use cash like a pleb is considered suspect anymore.
 
2013-07-04 12:28:55 PM

Lydia_C: Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate.

But seriously... back when I worked retail, the bank would always biatch if we brought the daily deposit over without sorting the bills and having them all face the same way. I still do that with my own money. Much easier than digging for the right denomination.


Same here.  When we would count cash drawers at the end of the day we would have to arrange them by denomination and make sure all the heads faced to the right.  They actually charged us if it was wrong.  Now it's a habit and I do it all the time.  Was easier to do it when you took the money than to rearrange a dozen cash drawers at the end of the day.
 
2013-07-04 12:29:19 PM

Nexzus: No raise dots on your money? Surprised the ADA hasn't (successfully) fought to get some sort of tactile indicator on the currency. Canadian banknotes have had a braille-like markings for almost a decade now.


They did.  Treasury is still trying to figure out how to comply without changing the size of currency.  Current plan is that instead of varying the size and color of bills by denomination like just about every other country in the world, we will instead distribute electronic currency readers to all blind Americans.
 
2013-07-04 12:32:46 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [i.imgur.com image 400x480]
bargon wanchi pax ke solo, ho ho ho


Did she finish testifying in the Zimmerman trial?
 
2013-07-04 12:34:04 PM

ChicagoKev: Nexzus: No raise dots on your money? Surprised the ADA hasn't (successfully) fought to get some sort of tactile indicator on the currency. Canadian banknotes have had a braille-like markings for almost a decade now.

They did.  Treasury is still trying to figure out how to comply without changing the size of currency.  Current plan is that instead of varying the size and color of bills by denomination like just about every other country in the world, we will instead distribute electronic currency readers to all blind Americans.


For a fee. Wouldn't want socialism.
 
2013-07-04 12:38:34 PM

neongoats: My first job as an adult was night shift at circle k, which instilled in me an obsessive need to always properly face my cash money and order it by denomination. Apparently just deigning to use cash like a pleb is considered suspect anymore.




Look how they scrutinize a twenty dollar bill.
 
2013-07-04 12:42:52 PM

GloomCookie613: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction
/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already
It's ok. I arrange my wallet the same way or it drives me bugfark.
/one is rarely alone on fark


I do that too. Bad enough that I do the old lady thing and pay for everything with all my change when I can--at least I don't have to shuffle through my bills to find the correct money.
 
2013-07-04 12:51:16 PM
Too bad green backs are different sizes for different denominations.

Then you could show off your homeschool-Jebus-math skills with two venti ones, a grande one, and a tall or $260.
 
2013-07-04 12:53:52 PM
So to make things fair, why don't we start changing the size of our bills like the Euro?  This would also stop people washing $1 and $5 bills and reprinting them.  Make $1, $5 bills into coins too.
 
2013-07-04 01:23:52 PM

bearcats1983: Doesn't it just make sense to organize cash by denomination? It's easier to find the cash you need when paying for something. Who wants to be the schlub digging through their wallet at the register?


It is common sense, and it also makes it easier to know how much cash you have at a glance.  On top of arranging by denomination, I also automatically fold my money with the smaller bills facing outward.  My dad spent his youth bouncing around the crappiest neighborhoods of New York and southeast Florida, hanging out with all sorts of questionable friends, so he made sure to raise me to be as street smart as possible.  (It came in really handy while I was growing up in rural Maine.)  As soon as I was old enough to have money of my own, he started giving me tips to avoid having it stolen, and for some reason, that's one of the ones that really stuck.

That said, I hardly carry cash at all any more, and anytime I see someone with a lot of it, I'm always inclined to wonder why.
 
2013-07-04 01:25:54 PM
I wish the CIA would get charged with intent to distribute.

AM I RIGHT?
 
2013-07-04 01:28:49 PM
To avoid these issues, I just mug a random OCD suffer when I need organized cash.
 
2013-07-04 01:32:46 PM
Csb my dog got busted for a gram and a half of killer cannabis. He had 800 bucks in his wallet from his doggy inheritance, but thankfully the idiots cops searching him and his car totally forgot to look in his wallet. I am certain that my dog would have had the cash seized as "drug money" because apparently it's a crime to have money and a little cannabis at the same time.

Yay for moron cops. My poor dog would have lost that money for good if it were seized (makes no sense to hire a lawyer to get $800 back.)
 
2013-07-04 01:37:16 PM
Can I even get a prescription for crack? What about generics?
 
2013-07-04 01:40:04 PM

Elegy: Oh hai guys.


/2 priors, one for possession and one intent to distribute cocaine
//both in 2007


Looks like he's been eating all the profits.
 
2013-07-04 01:50:28 PM

hooligan sidekick: bearcats1983: Doesn't it just make sense to organize cash by denomination? It's easier to find the cash you need when paying for something. Who wants to be the schlub digging through their wallet at the register?

It is common sense, and it also makes it easier to know how much cash you have at a glance.  On top of arranging by denomination, I also automatically fold my money with the smaller bills facing outward.  My dad spent his youth bouncing around the crappiest neighborhoods of New York and southeast Florida, hanging out with all sorts of questionable friends, so he made sure to raise me to be as street smart as possible.  (It came in really handy while I was growing up in rural Maine.)  As soon as I was old enough to have money of my own, he started giving me tips to avoid having it stolen, and for some reason, that's one of the ones that really stuck.

That said, I hardly carry cash at all any more, and anytime I see someone with a lot of it, I'm always inclined to wonder why.


One of these pseudo-psychologists idiots asserted men keep the highest denomination on the outside because they want people to assume those are all that denomination and demonstrate their wealth and manliness.
 
2013-07-04 01:59:22 PM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


your just supposed to glob it all together, and do the crack *before* you drive.

newbs
 
2013-07-04 02:00:02 PM
The crack possession is the stronger part of the argument they have to charge him with dealing, but thanks anyway subby.

Let's look at this rationally though.  It is not illegal nor is it an indication of illegal activity to keep your bills in your wallet in sequential order.  That's just common sense.

However the "street fold" is quite different.  For one thing it's a wad that is too big to fit in your wallet.  What does that say?  It says it's not your money. You keep your money in your wallet, and someone else's money (your boss) in the fold.  For another thing, the proper fold functions as a simple method for making change.  Someone gives you a $100 for two dime bags, and you don't know how to do math - using the fold properly helps you calculate change and not get killed for losing your boss' money.  Normal people walking down the street usually don't carry more money than they can fit in a wallet (or would have an explanation for it) and also don't need to make change repeatedly on the street.  The fold itself is not illegal but it sure as hell is an indicator that you're engaging in illegal street dealing.
 
2013-07-04 02:13:57 PM
Subby's derp wouldn't be so bad except in about a month it's going to be passed on as fact amongst the 'America is turning into Nazi Germany' crowd.
 
2013-07-04 02:25:04 PM

vygramul: One of these pseudo-psychologists idiots asserted men keep the highest denomination on the outside because they want people to assume those are all that denomination and demonstrate their wealth and manliness.


It's called a Chicago Bankroll: "A bankroll consisting of a large number of singles rolled over with one 20, which one might chuck in one direction when about to be mugged, while simultaneously running in the other direction. "

Personally, I pay for everything with a mix of $50 and two dollar bills.   Annoys cashiers, delights strippers.
 
2013-07-04 02:34:22 PM

ChicagoKev: vygramul: One of these pseudo-psychologists idiots asserted men keep the highest denomination on the outside because they want people to assume those are all that denomination and demonstrate their wealth and manliness.

It's called a Chicago Bankroll: "A bankroll consisting of a large number of singles rolled over with one 20, which one might chuck in one direction when about to be mugged, while simultaneously running in the other direction. "

Personally, I pay for everything with a mix of $50 and two dollar bills.   Annoys cashiers, delights strippers.


I only spend $2 bills and nickels because I went to UVA.
 
2013-07-04 02:44:18 PM

cefm: The crack possession is the stronger part of the argument they have to charge him with dealing, but thanks anyway subby.

Let's look at this rationally though.  It is not illegal nor is it an indication of illegal activity to keep your bills in your wallet in sequential order.  That's just common sense.

However the "street fold" is quite different.  For one thing it's a wad that is too big to fit in your wallet.  What does that say?  It says it's not your money. You keep your money in your wallet, and someone else's money (your boss) in the fold.  For another thing, the proper fold functions as a simple method for making change.  Someone gives you a $100 for two dime bags, and you don't know how to do math - using the fold properly helps you calculate change and not get killed for losing your boss' money.  Normal people walking down the street usually don't carry more money than they can fit in a wallet (or would have an explanation for it) and also don't need to make change repeatedly on the street.  The fold itself is not illegal but it sure as hell is an indicator that you're engaging in illegal street dealing.




That's farking nuts.
 
2013-07-04 02:56:55 PM
I always do that. Plus they all have to be face up and not upside down. But then, I've been accused of being anal retentive. It seems to run on the maternal side of the family
 
2013-07-04 02:59:00 PM

ChicagoKev: Nexzus: No raise dots on your money? Surprised the ADA hasn't (successfully) fought to get some sort of tactile indicator on the currency. Canadian banknotes have had a braille-like markings for almost a decade now.

They did.  Treasury is still trying to figure out how to comply without changing the size of currency.  Current plan is that instead of varying the size and color of bills by denomination like just about every other country in the world, we will instead distribute electronic currency readers to all blind Americans.


why use an obvious solution when a lucrative contract can be used instead?
 
2013-07-04 03:01:39 PM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


I think stripper or waiter with their tip money.
 
2013-07-04 03:14:02 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

Overheard one of my neighbors complaining about the local cops pulling him over for that.  OTOH, the combo of the tinted windows & neon undercarriage lighting ( Honda Civic ) attracts the attention of Law Enforcement, IMHO.


I drive the same car without the tints and shiatty body kit. Never got busted.

Being white in suburbia also helps.
 
2013-07-04 03:23:06 PM
"The arrest took place June 19 in the parking lot of TGI Fridays, according to a report. Arrested was 39-year-old Jalmel Lafarn Merriel of Fort Walton Beach, who is charged with possession of a controlled substance without a prescription."

I wasn't aware that you could get 'CRACK COCAINE' by prescription??
 
2013-07-04 03:28:01 PM

Kibbler: corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.

Uh huh. If a rich white kid is caught with an ounce of cocaine and $10K "folded" in his Ferrari, I'm sure that will be used to demonstrate intent.

If sorting bills is intent to commit a crime, then *having* bills is at least as much an indication of intent.

But no matter what, keep us safe, keep us safe, safe, keep us safe from drug dealers.

Safe.


But if it saves just one child....
 
2013-07-04 03:52:46 PM

Odoriferous Queef: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already

No That's CDO.

/put the letters in the *correct* order.


bows to the master

/why did I bring a fresh hot cup of coffee to catch up on the comments of this thread?  Now I have to clean it again.
 
2013-07-04 03:54:00 PM
/clean *it* being the monitor

//happy fourth of july, everybody
 
2013-07-04 04:10:10 PM
three things I learned from this whole article/thread

Apparently in Florida you can get crack with a prescription.
Streetfolds wither means your a drug dealer or a blind person
Guess there was not really a three...
 
2013-07-04 04:21:00 PM

Cup_O_Jo: three things I learned from this whole article/thread

Apparently in Florida you can get crack with a prescription.
Streetfolds wither means your a drug dealer or a blind person
Guess there was not really a three...



I thought all hospitals had cocaine.
 
2013-07-04 04:38:46 PM

abhorrent1: Is this like when they pull someone over whose on their way to go buy a car or something with cash, and they maybe have $5-$10K in cash on them, they seize it as "potential" drug proceeds? Because anyone carrying a lot of cash must be into drugs, right?


Exactly.
A few months ago I was driving all over town with 6K in my pocket looking at beater cars that I could use as a commute vehicle.
 
2013-07-04 05:42:56 PM
You suck, subby.
 
2013-07-04 05:54:04 PM
Came for pictures of "street folds" since the Googles failed me.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-04 06:06:47 PM

Wolfman Johnny: I tried to google this and all I got was Ben Folds videos, I think the cops made it up.


Try googling "street folds money".
Then all you get is this thread and the story.

I think you're right.
 
2013-07-04 06:26:03 PM

skinink: How lucky of the police to find a vehicle violation as a premise to stop a known drug dealer.


Also lucky they had a K9 unit with them. Why can't they just call it a dog?
 
2013-07-04 06:48:14 PM

Click Click D'oh: Silly Farkers. It's not that he arranged his money by denominations, it's how he arranged his money.


Until you can show me a law on the books that makes it illegal to arrange money, then the fact that he had arranged his money isn't relevant.

The fact that people in this thread have been searching via google for evidence o fthis "street folding" and finding either nothing, or links to how blind people fold money so they can tell which bill is which, tells me that it's probably some kind of nonsense the cops made up.

The descriptions in this thread involve "fold the ones this way, then the 5's this way", etc.  I have trouble believing that there are a lot of ones and fives in use when people are dealing drugs.  I could be wrong, it just seems unlikely that a lot of dealers are going to risk jail time for $2.
 
2013-07-04 09:05:29 PM
images.paraorkut.com
 
2013-07-04 11:54:53 PM

SarcasticFark: Subby is an idiot.

Wolfman Johnny: Keep the $1 bill flat and unfolded.Fold the $5 bill in half crosswise (with the short ends together).Fold the $10 bill in half lengthwise (with the long sides together).Fold the $20 bill like a $10 bill lengthwise, and then in half again crosswise, like the $5 bill:
Surely it's not this simple. Must be a way to grab money from your wallet without taking your eyes off the junkie.

This=====>Blind people also employ this method in their wallets.


 
2013-07-05 08:17:10 AM

bratface: "The arrest took place June 19 in the parking lot of TGI Fridays, according to a report. Arrested was 39-year-old Jalmel Lafarn Merriel of Fort Walton Beach, who is charged with possession of a controlled substance without a prescription."

I wasn't aware that you could get 'CRACK COCAINE' by prescription??


Cocaine is a Schedule II drug, so technically you could get that by prescription. Pretty damn unlikely, though.
 
2013-07-05 10:00:14 AM

Fluid: bratface: "The arrest took place June 19 in the parking lot of TGI Fridays, according to a report. Arrested was 39-year-old Jalmel Lafarn Merriel of Fort Walton Beach, who is charged with possession of a controlled substance without a prescription."

I wasn't aware that you could get 'CRACK COCAINE' by prescription??

Cocaine is a Schedule II drug, so technically you could get that by prescription. Pretty damn unlikely, though.


All the "caine" drugs are very similar and have similar characteristics, including drug resistance. You need more cocaine the more you use it, or you simply don't get the effects. One problem with cocaine addicts is that if they need medical care, many anesthetics work a lot less effectively, or not at all. So novocaine, xylocaine, lidocaine, and so on, all become ineffective. (My aunt, an emergency-room doc, refused to buy sunburn lotion with lidocaine in it. "A little pain never hurt anyone," being her favorite saying. I've always been happy I didn't have to rely on her for pain management.)
 
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