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(NW Florida Daily News)   Apparently in Florida it's illegal to arrange the money in your wallet by denomination because that's called 'street folding' and it's what drug dealers do   (nwfdailynews.com) divider line 146
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2013-07-04 11:45:20 AM
For all of you beating up on subby, you have to remember this: this was in the USA -- the law could have been real.  That's how farked up that country is.
 
2013-07-04 12:08:43 PM

Xenomech: For all of you beating up on subby, you have to remember this: this was in the USA -- the law could have been real.  That's how farked up that country is.


Not only that, but the article must really like "street folds" - and the reporter probably didn't make that up, the cops probably called it that. And if the cops call it that, the cops consider that a sign of drug-dealing. And if the cops consider that a sign of drug-dealing, they might just consider it probable cause.

So, really, that it's not actually illegal anymore than those old McDonald's coffee spoons were, it's still a farking problem.

/Drug war is the most pernicious thing ever to enter our lives. If I had a choice between getting rid of the PRISM or the drug war, I'd get rid of the drug war any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
 
2013-07-04 12:10:16 PM

danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already




I have family that thinks your an idiot if you don't do that.
 
2013-07-04 12:11:32 PM

Assimilate This: Odoriferous Queef: CDO

Odoriferous Queef: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already

No That's CDO.

/put the letters in the *correct* order.

Me personally, I have OCO, Obsessive Compulsive Order.  All the rest of you are disordered.


I have COO.  It's OCO with the letters in the right order.  Also I'm a pigeon!
 
2013-07-04 12:15:19 PM
My first job as an adult was night shift at circle k, which instilled in me an obsessive need to always properly face my cash money and order it by denomination. Apparently just deigning to use cash like a pleb is considered suspect anymore.
 
2013-07-04 12:28:55 PM

Lydia_C: Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate.

But seriously... back when I worked retail, the bank would always biatch if we brought the daily deposit over without sorting the bills and having them all face the same way. I still do that with my own money. Much easier than digging for the right denomination.


Same here.  When we would count cash drawers at the end of the day we would have to arrange them by denomination and make sure all the heads faced to the right.  They actually charged us if it was wrong.  Now it's a habit and I do it all the time.  Was easier to do it when you took the money than to rearrange a dozen cash drawers at the end of the day.
 
2013-07-04 12:29:19 PM

Nexzus: No raise dots on your money? Surprised the ADA hasn't (successfully) fought to get some sort of tactile indicator on the currency. Canadian banknotes have had a braille-like markings for almost a decade now.


They did.  Treasury is still trying to figure out how to comply without changing the size of currency.  Current plan is that instead of varying the size and color of bills by denomination like just about every other country in the world, we will instead distribute electronic currency readers to all blind Americans.
 
2013-07-04 12:32:46 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [i.imgur.com image 400x480]
bargon wanchi pax ke solo, ho ho ho


Did she finish testifying in the Zimmerman trial?
 
2013-07-04 12:34:04 PM

ChicagoKev: Nexzus: No raise dots on your money? Surprised the ADA hasn't (successfully) fought to get some sort of tactile indicator on the currency. Canadian banknotes have had a braille-like markings for almost a decade now.

They did.  Treasury is still trying to figure out how to comply without changing the size of currency.  Current plan is that instead of varying the size and color of bills by denomination like just about every other country in the world, we will instead distribute electronic currency readers to all blind Americans.


For a fee. Wouldn't want socialism.
 
2013-07-04 12:38:34 PM

neongoats: My first job as an adult was night shift at circle k, which instilled in me an obsessive need to always properly face my cash money and order it by denomination. Apparently just deigning to use cash like a pleb is considered suspect anymore.




Look how they scrutinize a twenty dollar bill.
 
2013-07-04 12:42:52 PM

GloomCookie613: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction
/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already
It's ok. I arrange my wallet the same way or it drives me bugfark.
/one is rarely alone on fark


I do that too. Bad enough that I do the old lady thing and pay for everything with all my change when I can--at least I don't have to shuffle through my bills to find the correct money.
 
2013-07-04 12:51:16 PM
Too bad green backs are different sizes for different denominations.

Then you could show off your homeschool-Jebus-math skills with two venti ones, a grande one, and a tall or $260.
 
2013-07-04 12:53:52 PM
So to make things fair, why don't we start changing the size of our bills like the Euro?  This would also stop people washing $1 and $5 bills and reprinting them.  Make $1, $5 bills into coins too.
 
2013-07-04 01:23:52 PM

bearcats1983: Doesn't it just make sense to organize cash by denomination? It's easier to find the cash you need when paying for something. Who wants to be the schlub digging through their wallet at the register?


It is common sense, and it also makes it easier to know how much cash you have at a glance.  On top of arranging by denomination, I also automatically fold my money with the smaller bills facing outward.  My dad spent his youth bouncing around the crappiest neighborhoods of New York and southeast Florida, hanging out with all sorts of questionable friends, so he made sure to raise me to be as street smart as possible.  (It came in really handy while I was growing up in rural Maine.)  As soon as I was old enough to have money of my own, he started giving me tips to avoid having it stolen, and for some reason, that's one of the ones that really stuck.

That said, I hardly carry cash at all any more, and anytime I see someone with a lot of it, I'm always inclined to wonder why.
 
2013-07-04 01:25:54 PM
I wish the CIA would get charged with intent to distribute.

AM I RIGHT?
 
2013-07-04 01:28:49 PM
To avoid these issues, I just mug a random OCD suffer when I need organized cash.
 
2013-07-04 01:32:46 PM
Csb my dog got busted for a gram and a half of killer cannabis. He had 800 bucks in his wallet from his doggy inheritance, but thankfully the idiots cops searching him and his car totally forgot to look in his wallet. I am certain that my dog would have had the cash seized as "drug money" because apparently it's a crime to have money and a little cannabis at the same time.

Yay for moron cops. My poor dog would have lost that money for good if it were seized (makes no sense to hire a lawyer to get $800 back.)
 
2013-07-04 01:37:16 PM
Can I even get a prescription for crack? What about generics?
 
2013-07-04 01:40:04 PM

Elegy: Oh hai guys.


/2 priors, one for possession and one intent to distribute cocaine
//both in 2007


Looks like he's been eating all the profits.
 
2013-07-04 01:50:28 PM

hooligan sidekick: bearcats1983: Doesn't it just make sense to organize cash by denomination? It's easier to find the cash you need when paying for something. Who wants to be the schlub digging through their wallet at the register?

It is common sense, and it also makes it easier to know how much cash you have at a glance.  On top of arranging by denomination, I also automatically fold my money with the smaller bills facing outward.  My dad spent his youth bouncing around the crappiest neighborhoods of New York and southeast Florida, hanging out with all sorts of questionable friends, so he made sure to raise me to be as street smart as possible.  (It came in really handy while I was growing up in rural Maine.)  As soon as I was old enough to have money of my own, he started giving me tips to avoid having it stolen, and for some reason, that's one of the ones that really stuck.

That said, I hardly carry cash at all any more, and anytime I see someone with a lot of it, I'm always inclined to wonder why.


One of these pseudo-psychologists idiots asserted men keep the highest denomination on the outside because they want people to assume those are all that denomination and demonstrate their wealth and manliness.
 
2013-07-04 01:59:22 PM

corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.


your just supposed to glob it all together, and do the crack *before* you drive.

newbs
 
2013-07-04 02:00:02 PM
The crack possession is the stronger part of the argument they have to charge him with dealing, but thanks anyway subby.

Let's look at this rationally though.  It is not illegal nor is it an indication of illegal activity to keep your bills in your wallet in sequential order.  That's just common sense.

However the "street fold" is quite different.  For one thing it's a wad that is too big to fit in your wallet.  What does that say?  It says it's not your money. You keep your money in your wallet, and someone else's money (your boss) in the fold.  For another thing, the proper fold functions as a simple method for making change.  Someone gives you a $100 for two dime bags, and you don't know how to do math - using the fold properly helps you calculate change and not get killed for losing your boss' money.  Normal people walking down the street usually don't carry more money than they can fit in a wallet (or would have an explanation for it) and also don't need to make change repeatedly on the street.  The fold itself is not illegal but it sure as hell is an indicator that you're engaging in illegal street dealing.
 
2013-07-04 02:13:57 PM
Subby's derp wouldn't be so bad except in about a month it's going to be passed on as fact amongst the 'America is turning into Nazi Germany' crowd.
 
2013-07-04 02:25:04 PM

vygramul: One of these pseudo-psychologists idiots asserted men keep the highest denomination on the outside because they want people to assume those are all that denomination and demonstrate their wealth and manliness.


It's called a Chicago Bankroll: "A bankroll consisting of a large number of singles rolled over with one 20, which one might chuck in one direction when about to be mugged, while simultaneously running in the other direction. "

Personally, I pay for everything with a mix of $50 and two dollar bills.   Annoys cashiers, delights strippers.
 
2013-07-04 02:34:22 PM

ChicagoKev: vygramul: One of these pseudo-psychologists idiots asserted men keep the highest denomination on the outside because they want people to assume those are all that denomination and demonstrate their wealth and manliness.

It's called a Chicago Bankroll: "A bankroll consisting of a large number of singles rolled over with one 20, which one might chuck in one direction when about to be mugged, while simultaneously running in the other direction. "

Personally, I pay for everything with a mix of $50 and two dollar bills.   Annoys cashiers, delights strippers.


I only spend $2 bills and nickels because I went to UVA.
 
2013-07-04 02:44:18 PM

cefm: The crack possession is the stronger part of the argument they have to charge him with dealing, but thanks anyway subby.

Let's look at this rationally though.  It is not illegal nor is it an indication of illegal activity to keep your bills in your wallet in sequential order.  That's just common sense.

However the "street fold" is quite different.  For one thing it's a wad that is too big to fit in your wallet.  What does that say?  It says it's not your money. You keep your money in your wallet, and someone else's money (your boss) in the fold.  For another thing, the proper fold functions as a simple method for making change.  Someone gives you a $100 for two dime bags, and you don't know how to do math - using the fold properly helps you calculate change and not get killed for losing your boss' money.  Normal people walking down the street usually don't carry more money than they can fit in a wallet (or would have an explanation for it) and also don't need to make change repeatedly on the street.  The fold itself is not illegal but it sure as hell is an indicator that you're engaging in illegal street dealing.




That's farking nuts.
 
2013-07-04 02:56:55 PM
I always do that. Plus they all have to be face up and not upside down. But then, I've been accused of being anal retentive. It seems to run on the maternal side of the family
 
2013-07-04 02:59:00 PM

ChicagoKev: Nexzus: No raise dots on your money? Surprised the ADA hasn't (successfully) fought to get some sort of tactile indicator on the currency. Canadian banknotes have had a braille-like markings for almost a decade now.

They did.  Treasury is still trying to figure out how to comply without changing the size of currency.  Current plan is that instead of varying the size and color of bills by denomination like just about every other country in the world, we will instead distribute electronic currency readers to all blind Americans.


why use an obvious solution when a lucrative contract can be used instead?
 
2013-07-04 03:01:39 PM

Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though


I think stripper or waiter with their tip money.
 
2013-07-04 03:14:02 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Lady J: whenever I see anyone with a big wad of cash I think 'drug dealer'. ditto any young guy in a car with blacked out windows

don't get me wrong, I dont care. It's what I think though

Overheard one of my neighbors complaining about the local cops pulling him over for that.  OTOH, the combo of the tinted windows & neon undercarriage lighting ( Honda Civic ) attracts the attention of Law Enforcement, IMHO.


I drive the same car without the tints and shiatty body kit. Never got busted.

Being white in suburbia also helps.
 
2013-07-04 03:23:06 PM
"The arrest took place June 19 in the parking lot of TGI Fridays, according to a report. Arrested was 39-year-old Jalmel Lafarn Merriel of Fort Walton Beach, who is charged with possession of a controlled substance without a prescription."

I wasn't aware that you could get 'CRACK COCAINE' by prescription??
 
2013-07-04 03:28:01 PM

Kibbler: corq: It's not the folding that was illegal, subby; it was the crack they also found.

However, the 'folding' will be used to demonstrate likely intent-to-distribute.

Fold what you like, but try not to get caught with the rock and these nasty things are less likely to happen.

Uh huh. If a rich white kid is caught with an ounce of cocaine and $10K "folded" in his Ferrari, I'm sure that will be used to demonstrate intent.

If sorting bills is intent to commit a crime, then *having* bills is at least as much an indication of intent.

But no matter what, keep us safe, keep us safe, safe, keep us safe from drug dealers.

Safe.


But if it saves just one child....
 
2013-07-04 03:52:46 PM

Odoriferous Queef: danno_to_infinity: are you shiatting me?  I put my money by denomination, facing the same side up and same direction

/if that's OCD, then dammit, it's OCD, fark off already

No That's CDO.

/put the letters in the *correct* order.


bows to the master

/why did I bring a fresh hot cup of coffee to catch up on the comments of this thread?  Now I have to clean it again.
 
2013-07-04 03:54:00 PM
/clean *it* being the monitor

//happy fourth of july, everybody
 
2013-07-04 04:10:10 PM
three things I learned from this whole article/thread

Apparently in Florida you can get crack with a prescription.
Streetfolds wither means your a drug dealer or a blind person
Guess there was not really a three...
 
2013-07-04 04:21:00 PM

Cup_O_Jo: three things I learned from this whole article/thread

Apparently in Florida you can get crack with a prescription.
Streetfolds wither means your a drug dealer or a blind person
Guess there was not really a three...



I thought all hospitals had cocaine.
 
2013-07-04 04:38:46 PM

abhorrent1: Is this like when they pull someone over whose on their way to go buy a car or something with cash, and they maybe have $5-$10K in cash on them, they seize it as "potential" drug proceeds? Because anyone carrying a lot of cash must be into drugs, right?


Exactly.
A few months ago I was driving all over town with 6K in my pocket looking at beater cars that I could use as a commute vehicle.
 
2013-07-04 05:42:56 PM
You suck, subby.
 
2013-07-04 05:54:04 PM
Came for pictures of "street folds" since the Googles failed me.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-04 06:06:47 PM

Wolfman Johnny: I tried to google this and all I got was Ben Folds videos, I think the cops made it up.


Try googling "street folds money".
Then all you get is this thread and the story.

I think you're right.
 
2013-07-04 06:26:03 PM

skinink: How lucky of the police to find a vehicle violation as a premise to stop a known drug dealer.


Also lucky they had a K9 unit with them. Why can't they just call it a dog?
 
2013-07-04 06:48:14 PM

Click Click D'oh: Silly Farkers. It's not that he arranged his money by denominations, it's how he arranged his money.


Until you can show me a law on the books that makes it illegal to arrange money, then the fact that he had arranged his money isn't relevant.

The fact that people in this thread have been searching via google for evidence o fthis "street folding" and finding either nothing, or links to how blind people fold money so they can tell which bill is which, tells me that it's probably some kind of nonsense the cops made up.

The descriptions in this thread involve "fold the ones this way, then the 5's this way", etc.  I have trouble believing that there are a lot of ones and fives in use when people are dealing drugs.  I could be wrong, it just seems unlikely that a lot of dealers are going to risk jail time for $2.
 
2013-07-04 09:05:29 PM
images.paraorkut.com
 
2013-07-04 11:54:53 PM

SarcasticFark: Subby is an idiot.

Wolfman Johnny: Keep the $1 bill flat and unfolded.Fold the $5 bill in half crosswise (with the short ends together).Fold the $10 bill in half lengthwise (with the long sides together).Fold the $20 bill like a $10 bill lengthwise, and then in half again crosswise, like the $5 bill:
Surely it's not this simple. Must be a way to grab money from your wallet without taking your eyes off the junkie.

This=====>Blind people also employ this method in their wallets.


 
2013-07-05 08:17:10 AM

bratface: "The arrest took place June 19 in the parking lot of TGI Fridays, according to a report. Arrested was 39-year-old Jalmel Lafarn Merriel of Fort Walton Beach, who is charged with possession of a controlled substance without a prescription."

I wasn't aware that you could get 'CRACK COCAINE' by prescription??


Cocaine is a Schedule II drug, so technically you could get that by prescription. Pretty damn unlikely, though.
 
2013-07-05 10:00:14 AM

Fluid: bratface: "The arrest took place June 19 in the parking lot of TGI Fridays, according to a report. Arrested was 39-year-old Jalmel Lafarn Merriel of Fort Walton Beach, who is charged with possession of a controlled substance without a prescription."

I wasn't aware that you could get 'CRACK COCAINE' by prescription??

Cocaine is a Schedule II drug, so technically you could get that by prescription. Pretty damn unlikely, though.


All the "caine" drugs are very similar and have similar characteristics, including drug resistance. You need more cocaine the more you use it, or you simply don't get the effects. One problem with cocaine addicts is that if they need medical care, many anesthetics work a lot less effectively, or not at all. So novocaine, xylocaine, lidocaine, and so on, all become ineffective. (My aunt, an emergency-room doc, refused to buy sunburn lotion with lidocaine in it. "A little pain never hurt anyone," being her favorite saying. I've always been happy I didn't have to rely on her for pain management.)
 
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