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(LA Observed)   77-year old Irish pub in Los Angeles to close on Sunday. Thanks, O'Bama   (laobserved.com) divider line 55
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2013-07-04 08:57:02 AM  
Isn't this the bar Shawn Mullins reference in "Rocakbye"?
 
2013-07-04 08:57:24 AM  
Two person stools?  Yuk.
 
2013-07-04 08:58:10 AM  
heh... O'Bama. +1 subby, that got a larf from me! :-))
 
2013-07-04 08:58:21 AM  
77 years is old for a pub??

/snerk
 
2013-07-04 08:58:59 AM  
Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.
 
2013-07-04 09:01:45 AM  
I guess the LA public would rather pay $15 for a designer cocktail made by a mixologist than pay $4 for a glasse of Guinness served by a bartender.
 
2013-07-04 09:02:09 AM  

I'm no expert but...: 77 years is old for a pub??

/snerk


Yeah, someone should call Guiness.
 
2013-07-04 09:02:52 AM  
Bloody Sunday?
 
2013-07-04 09:03:02 AM  

jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.


Jmr61 has turned into a sourpuss, thanks Obama!
 
2013-07-04 09:03:26 AM  
'OK, most Angelenos probably haven't been inside Tom Bergin's in a long time.  '

I expect that's why it's closing then.

Nostalgia for nostalgia's sake is misplaced. Today's generation of drinkers don't give a shiat about Irisih heritage I guess. They're just American, which is maybe how it should be
 
2013-07-04 09:07:56 AM  
i149.photobucket.com
It's feckin' LA!
Half the town are recovering alckies on the wagon and the tuther half are vegans who won't eat the feckin' pickled eggs in the jar!
 
2013-07-04 09:08:42 AM  
The guy sittin' in the big chair gets BLAMEd for EVERYthing what happens that peeps don't like
Comes wit the territry
No likes Guiness, anyhoo
Gimme anudder 'Stella...
 
2013-07-04 09:11:18 AM  

I'm no expert but...: 77 years is old for a pub??

/snerk


77 years is ancient for LA.
 
2013-07-04 09:14:28 AM  

jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.


Thanks Bush?
 
2013-07-04 09:14:29 AM  
No one expects a parting glass.

Toronto equivalent, only about 50 years:

www.celtic-connection.com
 
2013-07-04 09:20:16 AM  
77 year old *faux* Irish pub
 
2013-07-04 09:20:48 AM  

diaphoresis: jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.

Thanks Bush?


Thanks Bushmill's, perhaps.
 
2013-07-04 09:21:33 AM  
Lady J: Today's generation of drinkers don't give a shiat about Irisih heritage

They're drunk. ;)
 
2013-07-04 09:22:33 AM  

jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama's crap.


FTFY

diaphoresis: jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.

Thanks Bushmills?


FTFY too
 
2013-07-04 09:24:17 AM  
Was it Lucky Baldwin's? What will happen to Maggie McGarry?
 
2013-07-04 09:26:32 AM  

Onkel Buck: FTFY


Well, to be fair, I was hammered when I last visited.
 
2013-07-04 09:28:05 AM  
Golden Gopher is older than this bar. It even survived prohibition.

Also it's not the official LA Chapter for the University of Minnesota's alumni association even though it's call Golden Gopher.
 
2013-07-04 09:32:20 AM  
i1.ytimg.com
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
I gave my love to Erin/She promised to be true
I went to war to come back
And find five British soldiers
Had their way with her
It was consensual
 And all their fathers were hanged
And the children all got pink eye
While their Harry Potter books were burned.
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
 
2013-07-04 09:35:04 AM  

jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-04 09:38:30 AM  

dennysgod: jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.

[i.imgur.com image 278x200]


My favorite:

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-07-04 09:54:29 AM  

dennysgod: jmr61: Hey subby:

Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass.

Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.


Great.
Coffee shot out of my nose.
Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-07-04 10:01:58 AM  
Call me when this one closes. It's kind of cool going into a pub that's 400 years older than your country. I'd consider going back to Brum for it... but then I'd remember that I hate Brum and I'd just be a little sad.

 http://www.theoldcrown.com/
 
2013-07-04 10:12:09 AM  
Darn it, guys. Between the last couple of weeks I had and this thread, I actually put some whiskey into my morning coffee without even thinking about it, not that my Irish/French Creole self needs any excuse to drink.

I've never been to L.A. or the pub in TFA but I still miss O'Flaherty's here in NOLA, which never reopened after Katrina. However, there is the Irish House on St. Charles now and I enjoy going there.
 
2013-07-04 10:14:00 AM  
If it were Chicago, 10 more Irish bars would open tomorrow in its place

Paddy O'Murphy's
Murphy O'Paddy's
Murphy O'Murphy's
Irish Oak
Oaky O'Murphy's
etc, etc
 
2013-07-04 10:39:23 AM  
Damn, that's weird. They just got done remodeling the place not long ago. Changed the menu and everything.

I don't go there a lot, but I've probably been at least 30 times or so over the past 10 years. They had a pretty good jukebox once upon a time, and the bread pudding on their dessert menu was farking delicious.

Hadn't planned to hit Bergin's this week, but now I feel like I kind of have to. My buddy that I usually go there with will be crushed.
 
2013-07-04 10:44:36 AM  

Lady J: 'OK, most Angelenos probably haven't been inside Tom Bergin's in a long time.  '

I expect that's why it's closing then.

Nostalgia for nostalgia's sake is misplaced. Today's generation of drinkers don't give a shiat about Irisih heritage I guess. They're just American, which is maybe how it should be


I haven't been there in about 25 years.

The place was known for serving green beer on St. Patrick's Day.

Ireland's 32 in the Valley is still open as far as I know...I've never been there, though.
 
2013-07-04 10:46:45 AM  

czei: I guess the LA public would rather pay $15 for a designer cocktail made by a mixologist than pay $4 for a glasse of Guinness served by a bartender.


Stop with this "mixologist" crap. I tended bar for years (that's what happens when you earn a philosophy degree), and while some bartenders are better than others, it's up to the owner and manager to design a "craft" cocktail menu. All that a "mixologist" does is follow a recipe. Just like every other bartender worth his or her salt.

I've worked in bars where drinks from yesteryear (pink lady, Ramos gin fizz, cobblers, sazerac, et al) were the standard. Sh*t that probably 5% of modern bartenders know the ingredients to, let alone how to properly assemble. That doesn't make me a "mixologist."

It makes me a damn good bartender.
 
2013-07-04 11:00:10 AM  
To be replaced with a Mexican, Indian, or other "ethnic" cuisine joint shortly.
 
2013-07-04 11:05:26 AM  

Marine1: To be replaced with a Mexican, Indian, or other "ethnic" cuisine joint shortly.


There are lotsa Ethiopian restaurants in the Fairfax District, even though the area is mostly white and Jewish.
 
2013-07-04 11:21:30 AM  
Great Irish coffee . And they do make  it with decaf unlike those snobs at Buena Vista in SF
 
2013-07-04 11:37:44 AM  
New Starbucks coming soon.
 
2013-07-04 11:57:26 AM  

Valiente: No one expects a parting glass.

Toronto equivalent, only about 50 years:

[www.celtic-connection.com image 432x324]


Yeah, McVeigh's is real Irish though. Not "Irish", which generally means they bought the pub in a box kit from Guinness, but Irish as in the people who started it were Irish and opened it for other Irish people. The kind of place where you wear a Union Jack only with caution.
 
2013-07-04 12:16:47 PM  
czei:   I guess the LA public would rather pay $15 for a designer cocktail made by a mixologist than pay $4 for a glasse of Guinness served by a bartender.

Oh bullshiat.  Other than transplants in the industry who like to overpay, plenty of folks here appreciate cheap drinks and dive bars.

Sounds like bad management to me.
 
2013-07-04 12:58:07 PM  
Another Government Employee Isn't this the bar Shawn Mullins reference in "Rocakbye"?

Nope, that's a Jewish/Chinese joint off Melrose with live music called "Gengis Cohen's"

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/09/entertainment/ca-socal9
good food btw, which is true of all Fairfax places down to the Farmer's Market...

Lorelle Ireland's 32 in the Valley is still open as far as I know...I've never been there, though.

That's a good place, too...my friend Missy got biatched out & flipped off by some woman during her band's St. Paddy's Day gig because they were playing "Rebel Songs" & I guess Lord Vader didn't like it...
 
2013-07-04 01:02:48 PM  

I'm no expert but...: 77 years is old for a pub??

/snerk


...two that i've been to more times than I can count...

upload.wikimedia.orgwww.old-new-orleans.com
 
2013-07-04 01:11:59 PM  
jmr61: Hey subby: Stick your Irish coffee and shamrocks up your ass. Had enough of the "thanks Obama" crap.

All Memes Now End With jmr61...I just hope you keep your Margaret Sanger-like views to yourself around Richard M. Daley
 
2013-07-04 01:41:13 PM  
NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THE PUB THAT CHEERS IS BASED ON.
CHEERS.
CHEERS.
 
2013-07-04 01:51:38 PM  
Weird, they're down the street from me, and they were doing renovation on the place for months earlier this year. Thought they were gearing up for a grand re-opening.

Haven't been there for quite some time, might have to drop in at some point this weekend. At least there's still Molly Malone's, FWIW.
 
2013-07-04 02:02:07 PM  

femme_fatale: NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THE PUB THAT CHEERS IS BASED ON.
CHEERS.
CHEERS.


I thought that was the Bull & Finch in boston...

/Do not go to the bull & finch in boston. It's a tourist trap, and effectively a Bennigan's by all measures (ambience, food/drink quality, service etc).
 
2013-07-04 02:30:03 PM  
That part of the city's gentrifying very fast, and in LA gentrification means your rent goes up 1000 percent.  I look forward to eating at the Tender Greens that they put there on my next trip to the museum.
 
2013-07-04 02:33:57 PM  

wjllope: femme_fatale: NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THE PUB THAT CHEERS IS BASED ON.
CHEERS.
CHEERS.

I thought that was the Bull & Finch in boston...

/Do not go to the bull & finch in boston. It's a tourist trap, and effectively a Bennigan's by all measures (ambience, food/drink quality, service etc).


In the 23rd century, faux Bennigans will be all the rage
 
2013-07-04 02:37:45 PM  

oldfarthenry: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
I gave my love to Erin/She promised to be true
I went to war to come back
And find five British soldiers
Had their way with her
It was consensual
 And all their fathers were hanged
And the children all got pink eye
While their Harry Potter books were burned.
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫


Do you like singing that? It's really depressing!
 
2013-07-04 02:42:57 PM  
 femme_fatale: NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THE PUB THAT CHEERS IS BASED ON. CHEERS. CHEERS.
wjllope  I thought that was the Bull & Finch in boston...

I thought their reaction to the tourist trapping is why "Frasier" never made any mention that Cafe Nervosa was based on the former coffeebar @ Elliott Bay Book Co.:  http://www.iamnotastalker.com/2010/10/14/elliott-bay-cafe-the-inspira t ion-for-cafe-nervosa-on-frasier/
 
2013-07-04 03:05:26 PM  

wjllope: I'm no expert but...: 77 years is old for a pub??

/snerk

...two that i've been to more times than I can count...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 375x262][www.old-new-orleans.com image 400x310]


I had a few Guinness here... a bit older than your bar...
localism.com
www.athlone.ie
 
2013-07-04 03:11:56 PM  

czei: I guess the LA public would rather pay $15 for a designer cocktail made by a mixologist than pay $4 for a glasse of Guinness served by a bartender.


Per TFA the pub was purchased by two guys in 2011 who closed it and changed a bunch of things.  I'm willing to bet they tried to make the pub more like those horrible designer bars and the place lost its "authenticity" in the process.

Sure enough: from a recent Yelp review:

"I live in the neighborhood.  I've literally walked here and stumbled home countless times.  and then they closed and re did stuff and quite frankly, it's awful.

First of all, the music.  No more jukebox?  Okay.  I can handle that.  But for the love of Christ, play something from that more people can relate to.  Jazz.  Really?  Really?  At in Irish pub?  and not the nice bluesy kind of jazz.  it's the off tempo, clangy, played in minor keys and makes you anxious kind of jazz.
When I asked the manager if she could change the music, she almost had a heart attack.  "on no.  not while the dining room is this full."  are you kidding me?
She asked me what I wanted.  "I dunno.  Something that doesn't give me an anxiety attack?"   I suggested the Ramones or something more classic rock.  She acted like I was suggesting she stand on the bar and take her top off.  We settled on Frank Friggin' Sinatra and she made it seem like it she was taking a huge risk and might lose other customers.

Secondly,  new menu blah blah blah.  I want to go to an Irish pub and drink Irish beer and talk smack with the patrons and laugh inappropriately with the bartenders.  If I wanted a good corned beef sandwich, I would go to Canter's.

AND!!! What happened to happy hour?

All the regulars are gone.  Even the old bartenders have jumped ship.

I'm open to change.  But this isn't a good change.
What happened to the soul of this pub?"

/this was very important
 
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