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(Huffington Post)   For those of you who were waiting for the Arizona firefighters' death to be blamed on the sequester, wait no more   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 108
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2013-07-04 11:03:26 AM

jcooli09: blaming the sequester on Obama is dishonest. Obama suggested it because the GOP was about to allow us to default on our obligations. It was meant to be bad enough that no one would allow it to happen. Then the repubs blocked every attempt to hold it off. The republicans are fully responsible for the sequester, it's part of their general strategy to dampen or stop economic recovery.


Something tells me the poster you're responding to really doesn't care about honesty.
 
2013-07-04 11:15:07 AM
jcooli09:

first you say:  blaming the sequester on Obama is dishonest.

Then in the very next sentence you say:  Obama suggested it

Okay, so the GOP and the Dems went with something that Obama suggested.  And you want to claim that you can't blame Obama?

WUT?
 
2013-07-04 11:19:43 AM
Trolltastic article.  The author isn't blaming anything...just asking questions.
 
2013-07-04 11:47:51 AM
The author is obviously a Republican. I can tell because he* is happy that those 19 firefighters died. He* is happy because this gave him an idea for an article which stupid people* will take as evidence that the deaths are Obama's fault.

*All Republicans

/ Happy Independence day, you ignorant, jingoistic, bloodthirsty pigfarkers.
 
2013-07-04 12:11:54 PM

The Numbers: Drones. Clearly what we need here are more drones.


You know, firefighting drones might be able to fly lower and make higher-risk runs, especially to save firefighters. You might be onto something.
 
2013-07-04 12:12:48 PM

ghare: Oh, I thought it was because of the homos.


www.bitlogic.com

(Ever notice how God mostly seems to target red states when He's angry about the gays?)
 
2013-07-04 12:14:22 PM
No, no.  They're deaths are suppose to be caused by overturning DOMA and Prop 8.
 
2013-07-04 12:17:12 PM

rewind2846: Now I know you's trollin'. Lemme 'splain' something... out here in the real world we have these creatures called "lawyers". These lawyers have nothing to do all day but look for loopholes in laws so that they can get the people who are paying them out of jail, a reduced or eliminated fine, denial of guilt, and so on. This means that a law must be written to cover EVERY SINGLE HAPPENSTANCE AND LOOPHOLE, and sometimes that takes a lot of words. Sometimes big ones with lots of syllables.


You know, when I started to read this, I thought you were going to say something along the lines of,

"Listen and understand: lawyers are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. These lawyers have nothing to do all day but look for loopholes in laws so that they can get the people who are paying them out of jail, a reduced or eliminated fine, denial of guilt, and so on. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until your "law" is a complicated morass of multisyllabic words."
 
2013-07-04 12:32:08 PM
It's good to know that Obama is vacationing in Africa.  Thanks sequester.
 
2013-07-04 12:32:32 PM

vygramul: ghare: Oh, I thought it was because of the homos.

[www.bitlogic.com image 800x506]

(Ever notice how God mostly seems to target red states when He's angry about the gays?)


Cuz they're not doin' enough to stop the spread of homoism! o_0
 
2013-07-04 12:46:13 PM

SithLord: vacationing


That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
 
2013-07-04 12:57:38 PM

foo monkey: Unless they were embryonic firefighters, I don't think the GOP gives a shiat.


So is this partisan poop you just pulled out of your ass or have you got some sort of citation to go along with that?  Seriously- you political hacks are just noise.
 
2013-07-04 01:00:34 PM
Give my regards to Shields.
/Rip Yarnell
 
2013-07-04 01:03:58 PM

Gyrfalcon: "They call the wind sequestraton" doesn't have the same rhythm, but okay.


OK, Mark Russell. You get right on that. ;)
 
2013-07-04 01:37:28 PM

clowncar on fire: foo monkey: Unless they were embryonic firefighters, I don't think the GOP gives a shiat.

So is this partisan poop you just pulled out of your ass or have you got some sort of citation to go along with that?  Seriously- you political hacks are just noise.


Your funny bone broke?   This is funny cause Pubs are obsessed with nonsense and blame everything on ridiculous crap.  Want a citation on that?  Google douchebag Republican ideas and I'm sure you'll find plenty of proof.  (maybe even your picture)
 
2013-07-04 01:43:44 PM
Why can't we just cut that spending that nobody needs and has no negative effect on the economy?
 
2013-07-04 01:44:05 PM
For those of you who were waiting forSubby to clumsily try to repackage the Arizona firefighters' death story as "blamed on the sequester", wait no more.
 
2013-07-04 02:00:50 PM

whidbey: Gyrfalcon: "They call the wind sequestraton" doesn't have the same rhythm, but okay.

OK, Mark Russell. You get right on that. ;)


Wasn't The Winds of Sequestration a Herman Wouk novel?
 
2013-07-04 02:25:16 PM
Obama never should have threatened to veto efforts to modify the sequester.

This is NOT the change we were hoping for.
 
2013-07-04 02:27:21 PM

vygramul: whidbey: Gyrfalcon: "They call the wind sequestraton" doesn't have the same rhythm, but okay.

OK, Mark Russell. You get right on that. ;)

Wasn't The Winds of Sequestration a Herman Wouk novel?


No, you're thinking of the children's book Wind in the Sequestration.
 
2013-07-04 02:30:59 PM

jcooli09: infidelic: Just for the record, sequester was Obummer's Idea. True, the republicans took a stupid pill and went along, but Obummer was the one who originally suggested it.

On a more important note, I would say I am surprised, but this is fark and most of you guys have never seen a real live naked women, but still not one mention of the article on the right about why men give oral sex to women.

son, I am disappoint.

blaming the sequester on Obama is dishonest.  Obama suggested it because the GOP was about to allow us to default on our obligations.  It was meant to be bad enough that no one would allow it to happen.  Then the repubs blocked every attempt to hold it off.  The republicans are fully responsible for the sequester, it's part of their general strategy to dampen or stop economic recovery.

/guess how I know subby is conservative.


Guess how I know jcooli09 is a libtard sucking in Obamas teat? And news flash for you... teats don't have pubic hair, so you may want to reconsider swallowing, or not.
 
2013-07-04 02:32:52 PM

give me doughnuts: vygramul: whidbey: Gyrfalcon: "They call the wind sequestraton" doesn't have the same rhythm, but okay.

OK, Mark Russell. You get right on that. ;)

Wasn't The Winds of Sequestration a Herman Wouk novel?

No, you're thinking of the children's book Wind in the Sequestration.


I've got it! It was a Hendrix song: The Wind Cries Sequestration.
 
2013-07-04 02:55:36 PM

Bigdogdaddy: I feel bad those firefighters died.  However, they knew that was a risk when they took that job.


And therefore, we should do nothing to aid their families, and do nothing about any of the easily preventable circumstances that led to their deaths.

/Seriously, stop making arguments for complacency, people.
 
2013-07-04 02:59:25 PM

vygramul: give me doughnuts: vygramul: whidbey: Gyrfalcon: "They call the wind sequestraton" doesn't have the same rhythm, but okay.

OK, Mark Russell. You get right on that. ;)

Wasn't The Winds of Sequestration a Herman Wouk novel?

No, you're thinking of the children's book Wind in the Sequestration.

I've got it! It was a Hendrix song: The Wind Cries Sequestration.


media.lehighvalleylive.com

The public debt clocks they turn blue tomorrow....
 
2013-07-04 04:28:19 PM

IlGreven: Bigdogdaddy: I feel bad those firefighters died.  However, they knew that was a risk when they took that job.

And therefore, we should do nothing to aid their families, and do nothing about any of the easily preventable circumstances that led to their deaths.

/Seriously, stop making arguments for complacency, people.


And what have you done to stop complacency?
 
2013-07-04 04:51:25 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Obama never should have threatened to veto efforts to modify the sequester.

This is NOT the change we were hoping for.


Did you think of that yourself?
 
2013-07-04 05:02:42 PM

Craptastic: tenpoundsofcheese: Obama never should have threatened to veto efforts to modify the sequester.

This is NOT the change we were hoping for.

Did you think of that yourself?


No.
Why do you ask?
 
2013-07-04 05:28:12 PM
Brick-House:

Guess how I know jcooli09 is a libtard sucking in Obamas teat? And news flash for you... teats don't have pubic hair, so you may want to reconsider swallowing, or not.

Shut up, Anne Coulter. Nobody likes you.
 
2013-07-04 05:59:22 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Craptastic: tenpoundsofcheese: Obama never should have threatened to veto efforts to modify the sequester.

This is NOT the change we were hoping for.

Did you think of that yourself?

No.
Why do you ask?


Just wondering where you get such cutting-edge material.
 
2013-07-04 06:01:07 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Obama never should have threatened to veto efforts to modify the sequester.

This is NOT the change we were hoping for.


Maybe if the Republicans would stop doing everything the can to destroy the country out of spite and hate, he wouldn't have had to suggest anything.

/Romneycare: created by Republicans, installed in Massachusetts without a fuss by Romney, decried as Satan's work by Republicans when Obama likes it
//party before country is no way to run things
 
2013-07-04 06:20:20 PM

randomjsa: I was not aware that the sequester could cause sudden unexpected shifts in wind direction

So first it was climate change and now its sequester... What other hot button political item can we get somebody to run forward screaming about in the wake of a tragedy?

Alternately I know it would somehow be Bush's fault if he were in office now, since everything that happened at every level across the country was always his fault.


Awww! You almost made it! Try harder, Tintin. Try again.
 
2013-07-04 06:23:08 PM

Bigdogdaddy: I've had to cut my spending at least 5% over the last year so, it doesn't bother me that they've had to do the same.


But you didn't cut your spending 5% across the board. For example, your mortgage or rent probably stayed the same. So you had to cut more in another part of your budget to make up for it.
 
2013-07-04 06:26:22 PM

snuffy: how many forest service and interior department management level drones will get a bonus this year, sequestration be damned?


You, of course, have no idea if any will. But you'll go ahead and imply that they will.
 
2013-07-04 07:35:56 PM

MyRandomName: rewind2846: MyRandomName: Alphax: gadian: Wait, it's been so long that I'm confused on the scoring.  Which side thinks the sequester stuff is cool right now?

Probably the ones that think that Congress passing the least amount of laws ever is a good thing.

Are we counting individual bills or by total page count? Congress seems dead set only passing bills longer than 1000 pages.

You're not one of those people who judge a bill's worth by the number of pages it contains, are you?
Cause that's a really, really stupid reason... should everything written fit on a bumper sticker?

Liberal mantra right there. 2 days to "read" a 1000 pages of legal documents.


I always get a kick out of this complaint. Bills are double-spaced with huge friggin' margins with tons of headings. 1000 pages of a bill condenses to about 100 single-spaced pages... if that.
 
2013-07-04 07:51:12 PM
FTA: The Forest Service and Interior Department don't stop fighting fires when they drain their firefighting funds. Instead, they draw money from other parts of their budgets, which could include programs for removing dried brush and dead trees from dry areas to make future fires less likely and less intense.

Given that the Yarnell Fire was supposedly on state and private lands, I'm unsure how budget issues with a federal department would apply here, unless the FS and ID issue grants to the state.  Which they shouldn't do.  Arizona can pay for it itself.
 
2013-07-04 09:41:13 PM

The Numbers: Lsherm: I'm not sure what the best answer is to prevent something like this from happening in the future. I suppose you could have a helicopter with a water bucket shadow crews on the ground, but I'm not even sure that's possible because of the intense heat from the fire and the wind patterns, not to mention fueling logistics. I also don't know that one bucket of water would have been enough to save these guys even if they were directly under it when it dropped.

Drones. Clearly what we need here are more drones.


F*ck yeah! Blow the shiat out of those fires!
 
2013-07-04 10:19:33 PM

Craptastic: tenpoundsofcheese: Craptastic: tenpoundsofcheese: Obama never should have threatened to veto efforts to modify the sequester.

This is NOT the change we were hoping for.

Did you think of that yourself?

No.
Why do you ask?

Just wondering where you get such cutting-edge material.


If you wonder about this like that, you probably should try using google (www.google.com).  You can enter a term and it will search and find out where else that term is used.  Best of all it is FREE.

Try it.
 
2013-07-04 10:20:14 PM
oopsie!  "things" not "this".
 
2013-07-04 11:20:08 PM

Gyrfalcon: In the midst of all this, spare a thought for the survivor of the Granite Mt. Hotshots...a 21 year old firefighter who was the lookout that day, who had just called his 19 other brothers to tell them the fire had turned, he could see it from the ridge where he was posted, and he was getting the hell out of there. A few minutes later, they were all dead except for him.

Knowing firefighters and young men as I do, I fully expect him to eat a bullet before the year is out, next to their graves or on the smoky ruins of that hillside, unless he is getting all kinds of support and reassurance that this was NOT HIS FAULT--and nobody else's fault either except that biatch Mother Nature. If you are of a praying bent, give this young man some prayers, and if not, give him whatever mental support you can. And hope he's not another survivor like the ones we don't hear about from Oklahoma City and 9/11 who let the political bickering pass them by.


Well agreed Gyrfalcon . . . this must be incomprehensible . . . a la the movie Fearless . . . tricky survivor disorders
 
2013-07-04 11:47:28 PM

fusillade762: The Numbers: Lsherm: I'm not sure what the best answer is to prevent something like this from happening in the future. I suppose you could have a helicopter with a water bucket shadow crews on the ground, but I'm not even sure that's possible because of the intense heat from the fire and the wind patterns, not to mention fueling logistics. I also don't know that one bucket of water would have been enough to save these guys even if they were directly under it when it dropped.

Drones. Clearly what we need here are more drones.

F*ck yeah! Blow the shiat out of those fires!


Well, it works for oil well fires.  wouldn't work for brush fires, though.
 
2013-07-04 11:52:29 PM

Gyrfalcon: Knowing firefighters and young men as I do, I fully expect him to eat a bullet before the year is out, next to their graves or on the smoky ruins of that hillside, unless he is getting all kinds of support and reassurance that this was NOT HIS FAULT--and nobody else's fault either except that biatch Mother Nature. If you are of a praying bent, give this young man some prayers,


I didn't know that you believed in God.
 
2013-07-05 12:19:18 AM

feckingmorons: Yet the cut is still less that Obama's last jaunt to Africa to insult them on their laws and religious beliefs.


OK, I'm sure you're bored, but that's no excuse to descend into blatant fact-free trolling.
 
2013-07-05 01:03:37 AM
No need, i can judge their deaths the result of climate law obstruction by the GOP.
 
2013-07-05 01:09:03 AM

brukmann: No need, i can judge their deaths the result of climate law obstruction by the GOP.


what climate laws were obstructed?

are the dems trying to make climate illegal now?  figures.
 
2013-07-05 01:21:33 AM
Wow subby, you just told. Rushing a news story because you (thought) had a great headline, and it back fires.

But how about the ass who greenlit it? He didn't read the story either. Perhaps the same guy?
You gotta have an in somewhere.

Na na nana!
 
2013-07-05 01:54:16 AM

BuckTurgidson: BuckTurgidson:
Bigdogdaddy:

That's the important thing for everyone in all this of course; your idlly-rambled lazy-ass feelings.

See, what happened here is, I drank a lot of liquor, got mixed up, and then was a complete dick on the Internet.

I take it back, I'm sorry, have a fun and safe holiday weekend, and you can punch me in the mug when so ever we should meet..


Meh.  Not much of a "nose puncher".  Besides, it's the internet.  Peace.
 
2013-07-05 02:34:16 AM

Stoker: Wow subby, you just GOT told. Rushing a news story because you (thought) had a great headline, and it back fires.

But how about the ass who greenlit it? He didn't read the story either. Perhaps the same guy?
You gotta have an in somewhere.

Na na nana!

-=-
oops, ftfm
 
2013-07-05 02:40:20 AM

Stoker: Stoker: Wow subby, you just GOT told. Rushing a news story because you (thought) had a great headline, and it back fires.

But how about the ass who greenlit it? He didn't read the story either. Perhaps the same guy?
You gotta have an in somewhere.

Na na nana!
-=-
oops, ftfm


Actually, the "ass" that "greenlit" this story is concerned about the Democratic Party's ability to lead the American people.

I mean they already lied about the NSA

DERP DERP DERP DERP

I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN
I'M A LIBERTARIAN
DERPY DERPY DERPY DOOOO
 
2013-07-05 03:01:44 AM
i thought we were blaming it on global warming?
 
2013-07-05 05:37:18 AM
i915.photobucket.com
 
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