Ken VeryBigLiar: Wow, how did we Raider fans avoid this list? Nevermind the reputation; when they suck we totally vote with our feet./And as someone said in an article from a year ago "Packer fans are just Raider fans with permits for their guns and even more drunk".
CavalierEternal: Adolf Oliver Nipples: CavalierEternal: So the reason that Pittsburgh can't fill one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL is because tickets are too expensive?That's not at all what I said, but actually, the answer is yes. The Steelers have sold out every game since 1972, which means that they don't have a fan problem but instead they have a scalping problem, something virtually every successful sports team has to contend with. I have never paid face value for a ticket, and I probably never will. Some people aren't willing to pay a 100% markup to sit in nosebleed for any reason.So, if the tickets are all sold and yet the attendance is so "low", it's because someone is eating tickets. Oh, I'm sure there are the usual times when someone has to eat them because something unavoidable came up and they can't unload them in time, but for numbers that large it's scalpers not caring about the 50 tickets he has to eat because he made it all back and more on the markup on the other hundred he sold. The Rooneys don't have to give away thousands of tickets to charity to get sellouts like the Jags, and they never will.If you look at the Overall category, assuming that you're using ESPN's numbers, their away game attendance goes up over 100% and they're 12th. The Steelers draw fans and the fans do show up.Reasonable enough answer. Kudos to you, sir, for a well thought out rebuttal.
Lando Lincoln: What really bothers me about Green Bay is their myth of righteousness. It's the same reason I was rooting for the Miami over San Antonio during the NBA Finals.And then I stopped reading.
mikaloyd: I fell olike that article sucked living brain cells out through my ears. The entire article was rubbish that had no meaning nor theme. The author randomly chose 5 teams and called their fans names with no discernable theme or reasoning. It was as if they grabbed the first semi literate political troll from our own politics tab and told him to get busy writing something useless and pointless but divisive and inflamatory about football fans. Im essence to become ESPN-like for a blog
mikaloyd: The author randomly chose 5 teams and called their fans names with no discernable theme or reasoning.
Di Atribe: Those teams were not chosen randomly. :)
wesmon: 1. Dallas Cowboys: A whole lot of bandwagon fans that know little about football. They love to talk up their team when it is winning and then they disappear into the woodwork when their team sucks.
Di Atribe: wesmon: 1. Dallas Cowboys: A whole lot of bandwagon fans that know little about football. They love to talk up their team when it is winning and then they disappear into the woodwork when their team sucks.I really don't understand this. When the team is losing or mediocre, what do you want the fans to do? Stick around and keep talking their team up? Run their mouth some more so you can complain about how they never shut up? When my team's losing, I don't want to talk about it. I never understood this as an insult.Also, like I said above, if you stick with a team for 17 years with no SB wins, through Chan Gailey & Dave Campo, Quincy Carter & Drew Henson, you're not a bandwagon fan any more. You're just not.
SVenus: Di Atribe: Those teams were not chosen randomly. :)If a team can claim a sellout crowd for every single regular and post season game in the home stadium for the history of the franchise, that team should not be considered when talking about which team has the worst fan base.
wesmon: The idea is there are a lot of Cowboy fans who are only fans when the team is winning. A by product of being the most well known team and attracting a lot of casual fans who know little about football.
Di Atribe: I mean, I don't judge Yankees fans because of their casual fans. I judge them by their legion faithful who never pass up an opportunity to remind you how many WS trophies they have, even when they're wallowing at 4th in the division.
Adolf Oliver Nipples: You have that problem in Texas? I thought that was exclusively a northeast thing. Yankee fans make you and me look like amateurs.
balki1867: -Steeler fans: Love to tell you about how well they travel; don't mention they actually traveled to those places to find jobs.
Adolf Oliver Nipples: balki1867: -Steeler fans: Love to tell you about how well they travel; don't mention they actually traveled to those places to find jobs.I tell people that all the time whenever they try to claim that Steeler fans are bandwagon. No, they're not (well, some are), they're just spread to the four winds because the mills all closed up 30-40 years ago. It's not news.
CavalierEternal: Adolf Oliver Nipples: balki1867: -Steeler fans: Love to tell you about how well they travel; don't mention they actually traveled to those places to find jobs.I tell people that all the time whenever they try to claim that Steeler fans are bandwagon. No, they're not (well, some are), they're just spread to the four winds because the mills all closed up 30-40 years ago. It's not news.That I would have to disagree on. Especially here in Northeast Ohio, there are a metric f*ckton of bandwagon Steelers fans, most of whom aren't from Pennsylvania and don't have any connection to the region, and who only root for the Steelers because it's easier to cheer for the next closest team than the home team when the home team has the extended stretch of failure that the Browns have had.
kronicfeld: ArkAngel: estimated wait time for someone trying to get season tickets is almost a thousand yearsI like the Packers just fine, but that figure is total BS. The Skins boast of their generationally-long waitlist, but every single offseason they are cold-calling people trying to unload season tickets by the barrel.
Gecko Gingrich: The_Sponge: Gecko Gingrich: Jesus, what an abortion of a comment.And I'll forgive you because you're drunk.I wasn't then; I am now.
balki1867: -Seahawk fans: Retired #12 in honor of their fans in 1984 and have been blacked out on local TV a countless number of times since then for failing to sell out their games. Considering the symbolic nature of the 12th man (i.e.: they're part of the team and its successes), and how much they pride the monicker, they should consider showing up like the other 11 guys
no clever name here just move along: As an owner, I read TFA and thought, 'you mad, bro?'the ownership thing really grinds some people's gears, lol guess it's just because they can never own their team......
The_Sponge: Wow.....talk about old news. You do realize that the Seahawks no longer play at the Kingdome, right?
Maybe you should drive: Whenever people start talking about the relative worth of sport fan bases, it pisses me off. Quite frankly, I think it's ridiculous to look at any fan base as any group of people either better or worse than another group of fans. People choose to root for a particular team for a particular reason. If that bothers you, you have an issue.
balki1867: It's tongue-in-cheek humor.
balki1867: If you picked up the Cowboys and bonded with your grandfather over it, that's cool.
balki1867: The fact is that every fan base has a subset of incredibly stupid people whose entire self-worth is wrapped up in the external perception of their fanbase's 'nation' and how hardcore they are.
Di Atribe: That's why Packers are on this list. Their fans cannot stop reminding everyone about the small-market, fan-owned, Norman Rockwellness of the whole experience. WE KNOW because their fans never shut up about it.
Di Atribe: kronicfeld: How can the front-running, bandwagonning Cowboys fans from places like Bethesda, Connecticut, and Syracuse not be on this list? It boggles the mind.Front-running bandwagon fans for a team that hasn't won a Super Bowl in 17 years? How does that work? How about contrarian fans. That's more like it.Also, I would trade Philly fans for Houston in that list. I would also have a very different write-up for Green Bay, but I think they belong there.
Woolwine: Eh, most of the time I hear people saying the Packers having a bad fanbase they either don't know what they're talking about, or they're Vikings or even Lions fans. Even Bears fans, as historic and bitter the rivalry is at least try to acknowledge the Packers history, fanbase and legacy, as much as a lot of my fellow Packer fans acknowledge the Bears in the same way, even if we don't usually like to admit it. Vikings fans are those fans that are obsessed with their more successful rivals, to the point where a good portion of them spend more time hating their rivals than cheering on their own team. Lions fans (in the past 2-3 years anyway) are like that kid down the street who just started getting good but ends up throwing a temper tantrum whenever he doesn't get his way.
Boxcutta: It's why the Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys have such tremendous footholes in America.i.imgur.com
kronicfeld: Boxcutta: It's why the Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys have such tremendous footholes in America.i.imgur.comHe's just saying they're Jesus-like.
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