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2013-07-03 05:41:50 PM  
I must first chide subby for sending us into a slideshow unwarned, but other than that, this is basically the greatest off-season football article ever written I agree with it just about 90%.
 
2013-07-03 06:05:29 PM  
That is such a piss-poor article. The first entry on Green Bay makes no sense whatsoever. The entry on Houston is even worse. Seattle and Jacksonville make some sense. I agree that FedEx field is an utterly miserable experience, but how are 45,000 people (1/3 to 1/2 of the game-day crowd is usually not Redskins fans) "the fan base"? How can the front-running, bandwagonning Cowboys fans from places like Bethesda, Connecticut, and Syracuse not be on this list? It boggles the mind.
 
2013-07-03 06:13:12 PM  

kronicfeld: How can the front-running, bandwagonning Cowboys fans from places like Bethesda, Connecticut, and Syracuse not be on this list? It boggles the mind.


Front-running bandwagon fans for a team that hasn't won a Super Bowl in 17 years? How does that work? How about contrarian fans. That's more like it.

Also, I would trade Philly fans for Houston in that list. I would also have a very different write-up for Green Bay, but I think they belong there.
 
2013-07-03 06:18:34 PM  

Di Atribe: Front-running bandwagon fans for a team that hasn't won a Super Bowl in 17 years?


Front-running for those who became "fans" in the mid-90s, bandwagon for those who subscribe to the popular team.
 
2013-07-03 06:24:18 PM  

kronicfeld: Front-running for those who became "fans" in the mid-90s, bandwagon for those who subscribe to the popular team.


Popular for a reason. Probably because we're so amazing & the best at everything we do.

And I mean really, if you stick with a team for 17 years, you're not front-running any more. Just accept it, man. Be at one with the world & be the thing where we are.
 
2013-07-03 06:27:58 PM  
Green Bay? One of the worst? What the fark is this guy talking about?

We have the smallest market for any NFL team, yet Favre and Rodgers jerseys were always top sellers. The estimated wait time for someone trying to get season tickets is almost a thousand years. We have foam hat that look like cheese for God's sake!
 
2013-07-03 06:31:51 PM  

ArkAngel: estimated wait time for someone trying to get season tickets is almost a thousand years


I like the Packers just fine, but that figure is total BS. The Skins boast of their generationally-long waitlist, but every single offseason they are cold-calling people trying to unload season tickets by the barrel.
 
2013-07-03 06:33:38 PM  

ArkAngel: Green Bay? One of the worst? What the fark is this guy talking about?

We have the smallest market for any NFL team, yet Favre and Rodgers jerseys were always top sellers. The estimated wait time for someone trying to get season tickets is almost a thousand years. We have foam hat that look like cheese for God's sake!


Ixnay on the athay.  We're trying to live that one down.
 
2013-07-03 06:46:07 PM  

Di Atribe: I must first chide subby for sending us into a slideshow unwarned, but other than that, this is basically the greatest off-season football article ever written I agree with it just about 90%.



Shenanigans....that article is bullshiat.
 
2013-07-03 06:50:09 PM  
FTFA:

The team's homefield advantage stems from pre-sets that have nothing to do with the fans: geography as it relates to other NFL cities, climate, a recent rise in hard-hitting defensive backs, and engineering that brought a synthetic loudness to CenturyLink Field.


Climate?  Get back to me when Seattle has harsh winters like Green Bay, Buffalo, and Denver.

Synthetic loudness?  Whatever you say, pal.
 
2013-07-03 06:55:49 PM  

kronicfeld: That is such a piss-poor article. The first entry on Green Bay makes no sense whatsoever. The entry on Houston is even worse. Seattle and Jacksonville make some sense. I agree that FedEx field is an utterly miserable experience, but how are 45,000 people (1/3 to 1/2 of the game-day crowd is usually not Redskins fans) "the fan base"? How can the front-running, bandwagonning Cowboys fans from places like Bethesda, Connecticut, and Syracuse not be on this list? It boggles the mind.


People don't root for the Cowboys because they're bandwagon fans. They root for the 'Boys because in a cynical world, in a game of lies, the Cowboys stand up for what they believe in.
And what they believe in is bestiality, which makes that accomplishment all the more impressive.
 
2013-07-03 06:56:17 PM  

The_Sponge: Synthetic loudness? Whatever you say, pal.


You say that because because you're an acoustical engineer and you've studied the design of The Link, you because just *know* that you have the ability to yell louder than any other fan of any of the other NFL teams?
 
2013-07-03 06:56:52 PM  
because
 
2013-07-03 06:58:29 PM  

ArkAngel: We have the smallest market for any NFL team, yet Favre and Rodgers jerseys were always top sellers. The estimated wait time for someone trying to get season tickets is almost a thousand years


WE KNOW

That's why Packers are on this list. Their fans cannot stop reminding everyone about the small-market, fan-owned, Norman Rockwellness of the whole experience. WE KNOW because their fans never shut up about it.
 
2013-07-03 06:58:52 PM  
Jesus, what an abortion of a comment.

Gecko Gingrich: You say that because because you're an acoustical engineer and you've studied the design of The Link, you because or because you just *know* that you have the ability to yell louder than any other fan of any of the other NFL teams?

 
2013-07-03 08:00:25 PM  
Not sure where this clown is coming from. The Texans have sold out every home game since they have been around. Also rated one of the top tailgating stadiums. I have NEVER been a Cowgirl fan in my entire 53 years.
 
2013-07-03 08:04:32 PM  
#1 Cowboys Fans!
 
2013-07-03 08:16:08 PM  
Jacksonville is about the only one on there I would agree with.

/no Philly fan?
//no cowboys?
///and of course, it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2013-07-03 08:18:55 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Jesus, what an abortion of a comment.



And I'll forgive you because you're drunk.
 
2013-07-03 08:34:21 PM  

The Italian Farker: Not sure where this clown is coming from. The Texans have sold out every home game since they have been around. Also rated one of the top tailgating stadiums. I have NEVER been a Cowgirl fan in my entire 53 years.


I know. That article was all kinds of farking dumb. We're not supposed to root for the Texans cause they're not the Oilers and cause we're defaulted to root for the Cowboys? Get farked.

He should have been here when the Oilers left. My dad took me to the last game (I was about 11). Bud Adams had to be escorted out of the dome cause Houstonians were lined up at every exit waiting to throw things at him. And losing the Oilers hurt much worse when they went to the Super Bowl as the Titans not much longer after that. And I'll lick clean every chemical refinery in Pasadena and LaPorte before I root for the Cowboys (their friendly fans are alright in my book though).

I was a hardcore Oiler fan till they left and became a Texan fan the day they announced it on the news. Even during the Carr/Capers era. *shudder*
 
2013-07-03 08:47:14 PM  
Link would have included Raiders fans, but they're all clearing the dinner trays right now, and laundry duty still waits.
 
2013-07-03 08:49:01 PM  

alwaysjaded: The Italian Farker: Not sure where this clown is coming from. The Texans have sold out every home game since they have been around. Also rated one of the top tailgating stadiums. I have NEVER been a Cowgirl fan in my entire 53 years.

I know. That article was all kinds of farking dumb. We're not supposed to root for the Texans cause they're not the Oilers and cause we're defaulted to root for the Cowboys? Get farked.

He should have been here when the Oilers left. My dad took me to the last game (I was about 11). Bud Adams had to be escorted out of the dome cause Houstonians were lined up at every exit waiting to throw things at him. And losing the Oilers hurt much worse when they went to the Super Bowl as the Titans not much longer after that. And I'll lick clean every chemical refinery in Pasadena and LaPorte before I root for the Cowboys (their friendly fans are alright in my book though).

I was a hardcore Oiler fan till they left and became a Texan fan the day they announced it on the news. Even during the Carr/Capers era. *shudder*


See, that's faithfulness right there. I can admire that. I've got no problems with the Texans fandom. Also, I live Arian Foster, so there's that.
 
2013-07-03 08:56:57 PM  

Di Atribe: ArkAngel: We have the smallest market for any NFL team, yet Favre and Rodgers jerseys were always top sellers. The estimated wait time for someone trying to get season tickets is almost a thousand years

WE KNOW

That's why Packers are on this list. Their fans cannot stop reminding everyone about the small-market, fan-owned, Norman Rockwellness of the whole experience. WE KNOW because their fans never shut up about it.


How this doesn't sync with people is beyond me.  Though I do have to say that the article is only half-right about the Patriots fans.  There are plenty of people who have been fans forever that just are some of the most miserable people out there.  At least the big four are still in one of the greatest streaks of success of all time.
 
2013-07-03 09:03:10 PM  
Two posts before the Cowboys bashing? At least Di got in the first shot.

i286.photobucket.com
/here's looking at you, Di ;)
 
2013-07-03 09:05:41 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Two posts before the Cowboys bashing? At least Di got in the first shot.


/here's looking at you, Di ;)


Ha! I knew this would be a fun thread. I don't mind kronic bashing the Boys. At least he's got a good reason.
 
2013-07-03 09:07:16 PM  
That article was... a little random, outside of the Jacksonville pick. You could probably make a similar case for almost any  fanbase in the league.

As a biased Chiefs fan, my list would go something like this:

Raiders
Broncos
Seahawks
Jaguars (for the same reasons listed in the article)
Redskins
 
2013-07-03 09:09:01 PM  
Di Atribe:

See, that's faithfulness right there. I can admire that. I've got no problems with the Texans fandom. Also, I live Arian Foster, so there's that.

Rooting for your team during that bad years just makes it all that much sweeter when they finally get good. But  we got shiatloads of fairweathers now, in their newly minted jerseys talking about how "Adrian Foster and J.J. Watts" are their favorite players. Probably had Cowboys jerseys in the mid 90's. But you cool Cowboys fans who just treat it like a friendly in state rivalry are always welcome in my pit area for whiskey and brisket. Just hand over the fans that caused all those fights during the last meetup that got the tailgaiting restricted so that we might hang them from the bulls horns in the square and we'll be peaches.
 
2013-07-03 09:09:27 PM  

The_Sponge: Gecko Gingrich: Jesus, what an abortion of a comment.


And I'll forgive you because you're drunk.


I wasn't then; I am now.
 
2013-07-03 09:22:16 PM  
Steelers.

FACT: Since 2006, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and three AFC Championships.

Their rankings in attendance since 2006.

2006: 26th
2007: 27th
2008: 28th
2009: 25th
2010: 23rd
2011: 22nd
2012: 25th

At least Baltimore fans, for as much as I hate them and consider them hypocritical sh*tbags, go out and support their team.
 
2013-07-03 09:23:33 PM  

kronicfeld: That is such a piss-poor article. The first entry on Green Bay makes no sense whatsoever. The entry on Houston is even worse. Seattle and Jacksonville make some sense. I agree that FedEx field is an utterly miserable experience, but how are 45,000 people (1/3 to 1/2 of the game-day crowd is usually not Redskins fans) "the fan base"? How can the front-running, bandwagonning Cowboys fans from places like Bethesda, Connecticut, and Syracuse not be on this list? It boggles the mind.


DC area Cowboy fans exist because of the Marshall era of ownership. To this day many black folks here despise the Washington Snyders.
 
2013-07-03 09:24:15 PM  

CavalierEternal: Steelers.

FACT: Since 2006, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and three AFC Championships.

Their rankings in attendance since 2006.

2006: 26th
2007: 27th
2008: 28th
2009: 25th
2010: 23rd
2011: 22nd
2012: 25th

At least Baltimore fans, for as much as I hate them and consider them hypocritical sh*tbags, go out and support their team.


That's because their fans all live someplace else.
 
2013-07-03 09:28:49 PM  
The Texans are an embarrassment to the great state of Texas because the birth right of all actual Texans is to support the Dallas Cowboys. You know, the National Team of Texas.

So his argument is that we aren't the Cowboys or Oilers? Fark that noise.

/Texans for life
//We do need a new QB though
 
2013-07-03 09:30:35 PM  
Well, Jacksonville, sure.  Except for <b>bunny</b>.  And I think there's another one here who's cool.  But that's it!
 
2013-07-03 09:31:29 PM  
Months later and I still get cheesed on the tags, Goddamn, lol.
 
2013-07-03 09:46:55 PM  

alwaysjaded: Di Atribe:

See, that's faithfulness right there. I can admire that. I've got no problems with the Texans fandom. Also, I live Arian Foster, so there's that.

Rooting for your team during that bad years just makes it all that much sweeter when they finally get good. But  we got shiatloads of fairweathers now, in their newly minted jerseys talking about how "Adrian Foster and J.J. Watts" are their favorite players. Probably had Cowboys jerseys in the mid 90's. But you cool Cowboys fans who just treat it like a friendly in state rivalry are always welcome in my pit area for whiskey and brisket. Just hand over the fans that caused all those fights during the last meetup that got the tailgaiting restricted so that we might hang them from the bulls horns in the square and we'll be peaches.


Holy shiat brisket I am so there.

I love the friendly in state rivalry. There's no need for hatred at all. I'll pull for the Texans any time they're not playing the Cowboys.
 
2013-07-03 10:03:20 PM  

The_Sponge: FTFA:

The team's homefield advantage stems from pre-sets that have nothing to do with the fans: geography as it relates to other NFL cities, climate, a recent rise in hard-hitting defensive backs, and engineering that brought a synthetic loudness to CenturyLink Field.


Climate?  Get back to me when Seattle has harsh winters like Green Bay, Buffalo, and Denver.

Synthetic loudness?  Whatever you say, pal.


Maybe he meant the constant farking rain? And in other news, 94 degrees is almost unbearable when it's 60% humid outside and you don't have AC. Monday farking sucked.

BKITU: Link would have included Raiders fans, but they're all clearing the dinner trays right now, and laundry duty still waits.


Yeah, I can't believe they got left off. A buddy of mine from back in the San Diego days was tailgating at the Q when he noticed a trickle of liquid running from underneath his truck right through the circle of chairs where everyone was sitting. He follows the trickle back to some asshole Raider Nation dickbag taking a piss on one of his tires. It's one thing to do that stuff when no one is there. It's another thing entirely when you can see 6 Charger fans right the fark there.
 
2013-07-03 10:06:24 PM  
Hey Jacksonville! Portland, OR will take that team off of your hands for you.
 
2013-07-03 11:03:03 PM  
The fact that this list doesn't include any team in Pennsylvania is proof that it is utter bullshiat.
 
2013-07-03 11:06:20 PM  

Di Atribe: I must first chide subby for sending us into a slideshow unwarned


Try pulling it up on an iPad. I love it when mobile sites crash a mobile browser.

/Just load your damned website
//I don't want a web book
 
2013-07-03 11:10:06 PM  

CavalierEternal: Steelers.

FACT: Since 2006, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and three AFC Championships.

Their rankings in attendance since 2006.

2006: 26th
2007: 27th
2008: 28th
2009: 25th
2010: 23rd
2011: 22nd
2012: 25th

At least Baltimore fans, for as much as I hate them and consider them hypocritical sh*tbags, go out and support their team.


Do you wonder why? I'll tell you why: at 65,050, they have the 7th smallest capacity in the NFL. The stadium is packed on gameday, even for a dogshiatgame against the Browns who haven't won at Heinz is a decade. Speaking of which, have you seen the stadium in Cleveland when the Steelers play there? It's a 9th home game for them.

Support their team, indeed.
 
2013-07-03 11:13:08 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: CavalierEternal: Steelers.

FACT: Since 2006, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and three AFC Championships.

Their rankings in attendance since 2006.

2006: 26th
2007: 27th
2008: 28th
2009: 25th
2010: 23rd
2011: 22nd
2012: 25th

At least Baltimore fans, for as much as I hate them and consider them hypocritical sh*tbags, go out and support their team.

Do you wonder why? I'll tell you why: at 65,050, they have the 7th smallest capacity in the NFL. The stadium is packed on gameday, even for a dogshiatgame against the Browns who haven't won at Heinz is a decade. Speaking of which, have you seen the stadium in Cleveland when the Steelers play there? It's a 9th home game for them.

Support their team, indeed.


The Steelers ranked 25th this year with 94.1% attendance. 

The Jaguars, the NFL's laughingstock franchise when it comes to attendance? 20th at 96.8% and about 3.5 thousand more fans than Pittsburgh.
 
2013-07-03 11:25:02 PM  

CavalierEternal: Adolf Oliver Nipples: CavalierEternal: Steelers.

FACT: Since 2006, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and three AFC Championships.

Their rankings in attendance since 2006.

2006: 26th
2007: 27th
2008: 28th
2009: 25th
2010: 23rd
2011: 22nd
2012: 25th

At least Baltimore fans, for as much as I hate them and consider them hypocritical sh*tbags, go out and support their team.

Do you wonder why? I'll tell you why: at 65,050, they have the 7th smallest capacity in the NFL. The stadium is packed on gameday, even for a dogshiatgame against the Browns who haven't won at Heinz is a decade. Speaking of which, have you seen the stadium in Cleveland when the Steelers play there? It's a 9th home game for them.

Support their team, indeed.

The Steelers ranked 25th this year with 94.1% attendance. 

The Jaguars, the NFL's laughingstock franchise when it comes to attendance? 20th at 96.8% and about 3.5 thousand more fans than Pittsburgh.


Really, what higher civic duty is there than to support the local football team?
 
2013-07-03 11:30:55 PM  

CavalierEternal: Adolf Oliver Nipples: CavalierEternal: Steelers.

FACT: Since 2006, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and three AFC Championships.

Their rankings in attendance since 2006.

2006: 26th
2007: 27th
2008: 28th
2009: 25th
2010: 23rd
2011: 22nd
2012: 25th

At least Baltimore fans, for as much as I hate them and consider them hypocritical sh*tbags, go out and support their team.

Do you wonder why? I'll tell you why: at 65,050, they have the 7th smallest capacity in the NFL. The stadium is packed on gameday, even for a dogshiatgame against the Browns who haven't won at Heinz is a decade. Speaking of which, have you seen the stadium in Cleveland when the Steelers play there? It's a 9th home game for them.

Support their team, indeed.

The Steelers ranked 25th this year with 94.1% attendance. 

The Jaguars, the NFL's laughingstock franchise when it comes to attendance? 20th at 96.8% and about 3.5 thousand more fans than Pittsburgh.


Is that the same Jacksonville team that had to close sections of the stadium with hefty bags for the duration of the season to reduce capacity so they wouldn't get blacked out? The same team that simply gives tickets away now to avoid blackouts?

Perhaps you might look at income from ticket sales to determine their alleged faithfulness. It's not hard to fill a stadium when the games are free or 20% is closed off and no longer counts toward sellout numbers.
 
2013-07-03 11:34:43 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: CavalierEternal: Adolf Oliver Nipples: CavalierEternal: Steelers.

FACT: Since 2006, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and three AFC Championships.

Their rankings in attendance since 2006.

2006: 26th
2007: 27th
2008: 28th
2009: 25th
2010: 23rd
2011: 22nd
2012: 25th

At least Baltimore fans, for as much as I hate them and consider them hypocritical sh*tbags, go out and support their team.

Do you wonder why? I'll tell you why: at 65,050, they have the 7th smallest capacity in the NFL. The stadium is packed on gameday, even for a dogshiatgame against the Browns who haven't won at Heinz is a decade. Speaking of which, have you seen the stadium in Cleveland when the Steelers play there? It's a 9th home game for them.

Support their team, indeed.

The Steelers ranked 25th this year with 94.1% attendance.

The Jaguars, the NFL's laughingstock franchise when it comes to attendance? 20th at 96.8% and about 3.5 thousand more fans than Pittsburgh.

Is that the same Jacksonville team that had to close sections of the stadium with hefty bags for the duration of the season to reduce capacity so they wouldn't get blacked out? The same team that simply gives tickets away now to avoid blackouts?

Perhaps you might look at income from ticket sales to determine their alleged faithfulness. It's not hard to fill a stadium when the games are free or 20% is closed off and no longer counts toward sellout numbers.



So the reason that Pittsburgh can't fill one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL is because tickets are too expensive?
 
2013-07-03 11:44:53 PM  
Eh, most of the time I hear people saying the Packers having a bad fanbase they either don't know what they're talking about, or they're Vikings or even Lions fans. Even Bears fans, as historic and bitter the rivalry is at least try to acknowledge the Packers history, fanbase and legacy, as much as a lot of my fellow Packer fans acknowledge the Bears in the same way, even if we don't usually like to admit it.  Vikings fans are those fans that are obsessed with their more successful rivals, to the point where a good portion of them spend more time hating their rivals than cheering on their own team. Lions fans (in the past 2-3 years anyway) are like that kid down the street who just started getting good but ends up throwing a temper tantrum whenever he doesn't get his way.
 
2013-07-03 11:53:39 PM  

Di Atribe: I must first chide subby for sending us into a slideshow unwarned, but other than that, this is basically the greatest off-season football article ever written I agree with it just about 90%.


Allow me to chide you right back for being so fat and lazy that literally clicking 5 times causes you enough discomfort and distress that you decided to wahh wahh about it afterward.
 
2013-07-03 11:55:38 PM  
As Red Smith once said of a bad book, "this shows that the English language can be a gun the author didn't know was loaded."

Or to put it another way, you know the bit about infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters eventually putting out the works of Shakespeare? This article - three monkeys, 10 minutes.
 
2013-07-03 11:57:38 PM  

CavalierEternal: So the reason that Pittsburgh can't fill one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL is because tickets are too expensive?


That's not at all what I said, but actually, the answer is yes. The Steelers have sold out every game since 1972, which means that they don't have a fan problem but instead they have a scalping problem, something virtually every successful sports team has to contend with. I have never paid face value for a ticket, and I probably never will. Some people aren't willing to pay a 100% markup to sit in nosebleed for any reason.

So, if the tickets are all sold and yet the attendance is so "low", it's because someone is eating tickets. Oh, I'm sure there are the usual times when someone has to eat them because something unavoidable came up and they can't unload them in time, but for numbers that large it's scalpers not caring about the 50 tickets he has to eat because he made it all back and more on the markup on the other hundred he sold. The Rooneys don't have to give away thousands of tickets to charity to get sellouts like the Jags, and they never will.

If you look at the Overall category, assuming that you're using ESPN's numbers, their away game attendance goes up over 100% and they're 12th. The Steelers draw fans and the fans do show up.
 
2013-07-04 12:00:18 AM  
I fell olike that article sucked living brain cells out through my ears. The entire article was rubbish that had no meaning nor theme. The author randomly chose 5 teams and called their fans names with no discernable theme or reasoning. It was as if they grabbed the first semi literate political troll from our own politics tab and told him to get busy writing something useless and pointless but divisive and inflamatory about football fans. Im essence to become ESPN-like for a blog
 
2013-07-04 12:00:51 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: CavalierEternal: So the reason that Pittsburgh can't fill one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL is because tickets are too expensive?

That's not at all what I said, but actually, the answer is yes. The Steelers have sold out every game since 1972, which means that they don't have a fan problem but instead they have a scalping problem, something virtually every successful sports team has to contend with. I have never paid face value for a ticket, and I probably never will. Some people aren't willing to pay a 100% markup to sit in nosebleed for any reason.

So, if the tickets are all sold and yet the attendance is so "low", it's because someone is eating tickets. Oh, I'm sure there are the usual times when someone has to eat them because something unavoidable came up and they can't unload them in time, but for numbers that large it's scalpers not caring about the 50 tickets he has to eat because he made it all back and more on the markup on the other hundred he sold. The Rooneys don't have to give away thousands of tickets to charity to get sellouts like the Jags, and they never will.

If you look at the Overall category, assuming that you're using ESPN's numbers, their away game attendance goes up over 100% and they're 12th. The Steelers draw fans and the fans do show up.


Reasonable enough answer. Kudos to you, sir, for a well thought out rebuttal.
 
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