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(The New York Times)   The border patrol has an open relationship with its drones   (nytimes.com) divider line 12
    More: Obvious, border patrol, law enforcement agencies, new immigration, interpersonal relationship, UAVs, borders  
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2013-07-03 05:00:54 PM  
I think you mean "boarder patrol".

/pet peeve
 
2013-07-03 05:02:28 PM  
959thehawk.com
Nothing wrong with being open minded
 
2013-07-03 05:05:23 PM  
They are completely understaffed for the size of the jurisdiction they are charged with patrolling.  If you see the need to protect the border, or else monitor for illegal immigration, then you should have absolutely no problem with this.
 
2013-07-03 05:38:54 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: They are completely understaffed for the size of the jurisdiction they are charged with patrolling.  If you see the need to protect the border, or else monitor for illegal immigration, then you should have absolutely no problem with this.


Perhaps I read something wrong, but isn't this about CBP letting other agencies use their UAVs for non-border enforcement tasks? If one sees the need to protect the border, wouldn't said person be pissed off that these UAVs are being used for other things when those flight hours should be spent watching the border?
 
2013-07-03 06:09:51 PM  
deployed them to investigate fishing violations, search for missing persons and inspect levees along the Mississippi River, among other things.

I find it pretty hard to imagine people having a problem with using drones to search for missing people and inspect levees.

I'm sure there are plenty of libertarian types that think the government shouldn't enforce fishing regulations. I'm not one of them.
 
2013-07-03 07:52:37 PM  
I wonder what sorts of non-lethal weapons you need against levees and fisherman.
 
2013-07-03 08:00:46 PM  
Is this the thread where idiots talk about how scary remote control airplanes with cameras are?
 
2013-07-03 09:18:54 PM  

cptjeff: Is this the thread where idiots talk about how scary remote control airplanes with cameras are?


Commendably concise, but I don't think you'll get too many bites so just 4/10.
 
2013-07-04 12:34:28 AM  
and has considered equipping them with "nonlethal weapons,"

Why did I suddenly recall the scene where he shoots the security guard in the leg and says "He'll live" ... ?


according to documents recently made public.

HAHA gee I wonder how that happened ... US hitmen getting overtime pay year.
 
2013-07-04 07:06:47 AM  
has considered equipping them with "nonlethal weapons,"

What the hell kind of "nonlethal" weapon could be fired from a drone? Unless you're dropping pillows, anything hitting someone from a few thousand feet up is bound to do some serious damage I'd think.
 
2013-07-04 10:07:30 AM  
Note that he denied wanting to put weapons on this Predators.  Not his drones, but specifically his Predators.
 
2013-07-04 02:04:06 PM  

abhorrent1: has considered equipping them with "nonlethal weapons,"

What the hell kind of "nonlethal" weapon could be fired from a drone? Unless you're dropping pillows, anything hitting someone from a few thousand feet up is bound to do some serious damage I'd think.


Tear Gas, flash-bangs, even rubber bullets are already running at or above terminal velocity when fired.   Now I have sincere doubts most of these things would be USEFUL, and they would still be "non lethal" in air-quotes because those non-lethal weapons already kill people, just less effectively than real bullets.

Authoritarian culture has a not-so-secret fantasy of hordes of zombie-like rioters rampaging through the city like the zombies in World War Z and the dream of deploying military-grade weapons against these unarmed hordes like an FPS-player running around with all the cheat codes active.  In that imaginary situation a drone which can air-drop flash-bangs and tear gas would hypothetically be useful (or at least fun) at disrupting, slowing down, and turning back the encroaching horde of evil criminal rioters.

Thing is, dude in a patrol car with a tear gas launcher can do the same thing, it's just not as "cool" or expensive.
 
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