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2013-07-03 01:12:51 PM  
14 votes:
That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.
2013-07-03 01:02:09 PM  
14 votes:
Police said Wallace then started a 60-second countdown that the suspect warned would end up with him harming the child.

That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Dayum.

Kudos to you, Captain.
2013-07-03 01:16:09 PM  
10 votes:
Had to be suicide by cop if he started a 60 second countdown..
2013-07-03 04:24:47 PM  
6 votes:

ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.

 give this dude a month of family leave and some post-trauma counseling. Having to do that kind of shiat will mess you up.
2013-07-03 06:34:00 PM  
5 votes:

Cyno01: "I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just killed her.' I thought, 'she's dead,'" she said.
Is mom an idiot, or what?


Mom is a mother facing the highest stress situation of her life. Nothing in her past has prepared her for this level of stress. She is flooded with adrenaline the likes of which she has never known. Her baby is in mortal danger and she is completely helpless. A shot was fired in the area in which her child is being held at knifepoint.

No. Mom is not an idiot. She is human.
2013-07-03 02:31:43 PM  
5 votes:
I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.
2013-07-03 01:25:22 PM  
5 votes:

Blues_X: Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?

"History of mental problems" was mentioned on the local news.

In the security footage, he walks into the store while talking on his cell phone. Grabs a cart, shops a bit, and then grabs the kid out of nowhere.


That's a shame, but I can't really fault the police officer for using lethal force - if he said he was going to hurt the little girl at the end of the countdown, he had to do something.
2013-07-03 04:20:09 PM  
4 votes:
I don't think it was suicide-by-cop, I think it was just stupid.  There's a thing I see on TV all the time I call "the magic gun" - the idea that if I point a gun at you, you are forced to do what I say.  Like "go in that room and let me torture you to death for weeks, or else I'll shoot you."  Doesn't make logical sense.  But people in the real world think that the threat of violence compels  obedience, and don't know what to do if someone refuses.
2013-07-03 05:32:43 PM  
3 votes:

markie_farkie: Had to be suicide by cop if he started a 60 second countdown..


...and then proceeded to not harm the child in the time that it took for the officer to walk up to him, draw his weapon, and point it at the perp's head. Yeah, definitely suicide by cop.

Which always kind of pisses me off.  That clown affected a whole lot of other people in his effort to rid the world of himself---it's kind of a dick move.  The cop can't feel good about having killed a guy, the mother and family were probably traumatized, etc.
2013-07-03 04:48:20 PM  
3 votes:
Clearly a typically heinous over-use of force by another Nazi Cop.  I've played 1430 hours of SWAT 3 so I know a little something about this sort of thing!  All he had to do was flashbang the room, jump over a counter and melee the guy with his baton, problem solved.  I mean, give a guy a gun and a badge and he thinks he's a demi-god, going around deciding who lives and who dies.  It's amazing that he could find time between taking bribes and planting evidence to actually show up.  I hope he gets charged with murder.  Disarm the Pigs!!!11eleven!!

(Sorry, the lack of cop-hate in this Fark thread was making me nervous.)

In all seriousness, while the ending is unfortunate, if this cop accomplishes nothing else of significance in his entire career, he will always know that someone's daughter gets to grow up and have a life because he was there to make a difference.  Good for him.
2013-07-03 04:33:55 PM  
3 votes:

museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.


49 comments before the first shiatpost, a new Fark best!
2013-07-03 04:32:15 PM  
3 votes:
Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.
2013-07-03 04:27:33 PM  
3 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?

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2013-07-03 03:14:09 PM  
3 votes:

basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.


See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.
2013-07-03 02:46:20 PM  
3 votes:
Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.
2013-07-03 02:23:42 PM  
3 votes:

what_now: Why? Is there any reason why he would do this?


Suicide by cop. If he wanted to harm a child -why didn't he just do it? Why wait for the police?
2013-07-03 02:08:48 PM  
3 votes:
Nuthin' but net.
2013-07-03 01:23:08 PM  
3 votes:

ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.


Absolutely!
2013-07-03 06:45:02 PM  
2 votes:

MarkEC: Bokononist: The cop didn't need to be a marksman in here, just experienced and conditioned.

I doubt the Captain had killed anyone before, so experience is out the window. Conditioned? I'd just call it a gut check. No one knows how they would react until they are in a situation that requires that intestinal fortitude.


Mostly this. You certainly don't need accuracy from two inches, but you need some seriously calm nerves to get that close in that situation. If you watch the video, you'll see that as the guy starts counting, the captain crouches. The suspect is looking the other way. He doesn't run at him or make big movements that might have caught the guy's attention. He takes a few quick steps and fires. Decisive but not rushed. Really spectacular reaction.

One other thing. This store is literally a few hundred feet from the police station. The hostage negotiators were there in seconds.
2013-07-03 05:36:27 PM  
2 votes:
Clearing up a few things, as this happened locally and I followed it and watched the entire surveillance tape....

This was more a case of crazy than suicide by cop. The suspect was a paranoid schizophrenic. While police were negotiating with him for half an hour, he was ranting about the Illuminati, said he was being watched by George Bush and claimed to be the richest man in the world. He did time in Texas for shooting through a wall and hitting a child.

There was a SWAT team there, but the people who were dealing with the suspect were the department's two hostage negotiators, a sergeant and a captain. As he started counting from 60 by tens, he was looking at the sergeant and the captain just took three quick steps and capped him in the right temple. Calm and collected. He even ducked around and checked his gun during the negotiations to make sure there was a round in the chamber.
2013-07-03 05:24:13 PM  
2 votes:
"I did not maintain my composure. I was completely freaked out," she said. "I wanted to reach out and grab her but he had a knife. There was nothing I could do but stand there and beg for her life."

And that, is why so many american's carry sidearms.
2013-07-03 05:01:40 PM  
2 votes:

genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....


Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.
2013-07-03 04:58:30 PM  
2 votes:

Magnanimous_J: namegoeshere: I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.


If it was a standard glock-type weapon with an enclosed firing chamber (unlike a revolver for example), it's really not as loud as you might think. Sirens are much more damaging to a little tyke's ears.


I really do love Fark.
2013-07-03 04:47:15 PM  
2 votes:

Virulency: crypticsatellite: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

i like that sentence, it just so to the point.... but leaves it up to the imagination, was his gun drawn, did he say anything? calm quick walk BAM and just turned around? or bent down picked up the kid with that guys brains all over? no expression just deal with it?


The tv bit I saw had a video (not of the actual shooting, obviously.) Another officer spoke to him, causing him to look away. This guy then walked up, shot (video of brain splatter not shown) and then scooped the babby and moved away quickly. It was very fast.
2013-07-03 04:40:58 PM  
2 votes:
See? Why I never go to WalMart. The employees are bad enough, the customers are dangerous.
2013-07-03 04:35:57 PM  
2 votes:
Liveleak links to the actual videos.

That's gun control.

Sometimes the cops f•ck up epically. Other times, they do really, really good work.
2013-07-03 04:34:34 PM  
2 votes:

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: SirTanon: How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 390x300]

FTA: "At one point, they gave Wallace a chair and talked with him one-on-one ..."

Clint talking to a chair?  That's some damned inspired casting!


The chair is to get Crazyguy to sit still. He then makes a much better target than when he is up pacing and twitching all over.
2013-07-03 04:23:41 PM  
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?


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2013-07-03 04:20:54 PM  
2 votes:

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


Assholes think this sort of thing shows how tough they are.
2013-07-03 04:20:53 PM  
2 votes:

another cultural observer: TuteTibiImperes: basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.

See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.

The suit isn't going to come from the family of the deceased.  It'll come from the little girl's family, upset that she's sustained irreversible hearing loss.


Fark that, she was about to suffer irreversible respiratory and circulatory loss.
2013-07-03 03:19:34 PM  
2 votes:
Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

matthewturland.com

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?
2013-07-03 01:53:46 PM  
2 votes:

PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!


and 8, and a little in 9.
2013-07-03 01:35:51 PM  
2 votes:
Enjoy your wrongful death lawsuit, sir.

You're still a hero to me!
2013-07-03 01:23:11 PM  
2 votes:

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


"History of mental problems" was mentioned on the local news.

In the security footage, he walks into the store while talking on his cell phone. Grabs a cart, shops a bit, and then grabs the kid out of nowhere.
2013-07-03 01:20:03 PM  
2 votes:
Why? Is there any reason why he would do this?
2013-07-04 09:35:57 AM  
1 votes:
taurusowner:
Your assertions are unfounded and spoken from ignorance. Those of us who actually do this kind of thing day in and day out can see you're just plain wrong.

I'd also like to point out that police are, by and large, highly in favor of gun control. Because those who "do this kind of thing every day" see the dangers up close.
2013-07-04 07:54:22 AM  
1 votes:
I bet the cop who had to shoot the guy didn't enjoy it. Wish I could say the same for a lot of farkers commenting here.
2013-07-03 11:13:40 PM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


Low IQ? Daddy Issues? Lack of breastfeeding?
Who really cares. Daughter is safe with mom and bad guy gets a bullet to the head.
We all win.
2013-07-03 11:10:04 PM  
1 votes:
That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

As should be done to anyone who threatens the life of an innocent child.
Hope Captain Huff has a wonderful weekend and hope the parents of Mr. Wallace have a wonderful weekend as well.
2013-07-03 10:40:14 PM  
1 votes:
I love this cop so much!
 Way to handle it Sir!
2013-07-03 08:49:26 PM  
1 votes:

Brittabot: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

The little girl is only 2, that's young enough that she likely won't remember any of it when she gets a little older (the family needs to go on with life as normally as possible though, so she doesn't start to sense something is wrong - which might be tough at first).

Parents should definitely take her to a child psychologist to make sure she's alright, but I'd be willing to bet the mom and sister suffer psychologically more than the 2 year old (they should get some help too - I'd be a mess if something like this happened to my kid).


Toddlerhood is often referred to as "the formative years." The little girl may not remember all the details of what happened, but she may grow up to feel anxiety in situations that have elements of that scene -- and not really remember why. For example, she may get really panicky when somebody picks her up and puts her in their lap -- and not really understand why that scares the hell out of her.

Which does not bode well for her if she plans to spin around a brass pole someday.
2013-07-03 07:02:56 PM  
1 votes:

namegoeshere: Cyno01: "I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just killed her.' I thought, 'she's dead,'" she said.
Is mom an idiot, or what?

Mom is a mother facing the highest stress situation of her life. Nothing in her past has prepared her for this level of stress. She is flooded with adrenaline the likes of which she has never known. Her baby is in mortal danger and she is completely helpless. A shot was fired in the area in which her child is being held at knifepoint.

No. Mom is not an idiot. She is human.


Cyno01, on the other hand, is a farkmook moran of the highest caliber.
2013-07-03 05:56:09 PM  
1 votes:
Captain David Huff is a farking hero, indeed. I'm not saying this is ALWAYS the appropriate way to end a hostage situation, but damn if it didn't work extremely well here. And before anyone mews at me for disregarding the child's life: That didn't happen. The dude could have just as easily ended that count down at any second he choose and killed that girl. That also didn't happen. What did happen, however, was a HUGE SUCCESS.

/I'm making a note here
2013-07-03 05:39:46 PM  
1 votes:

KidneyStone: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

I have a permit, frequently carry, and I think I would have shot the guy in the head just like the cop did. Video footage of everything, a textbook case of justified shooting, I think I would take the shot.

I'm awfully glad I wasn't there because unlike the anti-gun-carry propaganda we're not all carrying while mentally masturbating about getting the chance to kill someone.

/although I know some who seem to be but I really think it's all talk


He had a knife to the girl's throat and likely would have stabbed her in the neck if you tried to approach. The only reason the cop was able to take the shot safely is because he was distracted looking at another officer while he counted down. There is a reason we let the police handle these things and not d-bags who took a one-day gun safety class.
2013-07-03 05:33:28 PM  
1 votes:

museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.


I have a permit, frequently carry, and I think I would have shot the guy in the head just like the cop did. Video footage of everything, a textbook case of justified shooting, I think I would take the shot.

I'm awfully glad I wasn't there because unlike the anti-gun-carry propaganda we're not all carrying while mentally masturbating about getting the chance to kill someone.

/although I know some who seem to be but I really think it's all talk
2013-07-03 05:32:37 PM  
1 votes:
I don't think the little girl is going to suffer any hearing loss. That gun looks like it was right against the guy's head.

Bravest damned cop in America.
2013-07-03 05:24:47 PM  
1 votes:

museamused: Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.


Most cops (90%ish) shoot their firearms the bare minimum required, usually the yearly qualification (if their dept can even afford that). Mine requires yearly qualifications with optional quarterly range time. I'm generally one of 3 or 4 deputies who show up to the quarterly events. Many deputies end up needing to reshoot just to qualify. I've also attended some advanced shooting school run by civilians, and the few fellow law enforcement officers who actually put the time and money in to do that kind of thing on the side are usually less accurate and slower than other civilians there. The things is...I started shooting before I became a cop just for fun. I enjoy it. I like practicing, I like learning about ballistics and powder burn rates. I like taking them apart and seeing how they work. I'm good at shooting because it was a hobby first that became part of my job later, not because the police academy trained me. I actually had to work to unlearn some of the garbage the academy tried to "teach".

It makes sense when you really thing about it. To a cop, a gun is just a tool of the job. Generally people who do something because they truly enjoy it are better at that thing than people who do it because their job requires it. People who work on cars because they grew up loving engines and mechanics, people who write computer code (just think of how much better amateur mods make games like Skyrim) vs someone who slogs through it for work. Hobbyists are just generally more proficient at specific tasks than someone for whom that task is a required aspect to stay employed. And it shows. How many office workers are really good with computers even though they are forced to use them every day vs. an IT guy who enjoyed learning about computers long before it became his job? How many cab drivers, bus drivers, pizza delivery guys, even cops are great at fixing cars even though they drive them every day vs. the kid who loved tinkering with engines and  thendecided to be a mechanic?

The myth that police are expert shots just because their job issues them a gun is as false as some office drone being a computer whiz because they were given a desk with a computer.
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearm-accessories/gun-cle an ing/articles/1764925-Where-did-all-the-bullets-go/
2013-07-03 05:17:13 PM  
1 votes:

namegoeshere: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.


One shot will cause a very small amount of hearing damage, which is permanent (and cumulative). She'll be fine both hearing-wise and mentally.

Young children bounce back a lot better that adults.
2013-07-03 05:13:17 PM  
1 votes:
This is why we need to arm all Wal-Mart greeters.

/seriously though, I feel sorry for the cop, but he did right.  Someone needs to remind him every day he has a flashback that he didn't so much kill a man as save a little girl's life.
2013-07-03 05:08:23 PM  
1 votes:

iheartscotch: namegoeshere: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.

No, he's only MOSTLY dead!

/ TO BLATHE


Blave.  To blave.
2013-07-03 05:06:12 PM  
1 votes:

DORMAMU: INeedAName: Makes you wonder what was going through that guy's head. A 38 or a 9mm?

.40 or .45 also likely.

Hallow point to boot


Was the guy a vampire too?
2013-07-03 04:55:51 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Tenga: He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.

FTA: They negotiated for more than 30 minutes with the suspect, Sammie Wallace, who continued to hold a knife to the toddler's neck


I'm gonna go with "That's a really bad idea".


I'm picturing a result that would look like a Tarentino clip done for Troma.
2013-07-03 04:54:16 PM  
1 votes:

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Most people who feel the need to carry a gun pee all over themselves in fear if the wind blows too hard, they'd never actually be able to respond in a crisis situation.


I'm eagerly anticipating the chance to pour over the data and citations you no doubt are preparing to post in order to back that wild ass claim up.
2013-07-03 04:53:31 PM  
1 votes:
Sounds like suicide by cop.  One of the most selfish and shiatty ways to off yourself.  Go find a tall building, arsehole.
2013-07-03 04:51:35 PM  
1 votes:
farm4.static.flickr.com

Did the cop say, "Play time's over."?
2013-07-03 04:49:26 PM  
1 votes:

justanotherfarkinfarker: Clean-up Isle 5!

Kid won't remember the details a few years down the road.

/I wonder what was the last thing to go through his mind?


Bits of skull, I imagine.
2013-07-03 04:49:01 PM  
1 votes:

goatleggedfellow: ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer. give this dude a month of family leave and some post-trauma counseling. Having to do that kind of shiat will mess you up.


Yeah, he's going to have that scene playing in his head for life. :(
2013-07-03 04:45:17 PM  
1 votes:

jchic: ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.

Absolutely!


Maybe we could all pitch in and throw him a keg party.
2013-07-03 04:44:48 PM  
1 votes:

jebusfreak: Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.


There's video of it, Mr. Loose Change.
2013-07-03 04:43:00 PM  
1 votes:

genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....


Rarely happens. Most people who feel the need to carry a gun pee all over themselves in fear if the wind blows too hard, they'd never actually be able to respond in a crisis situation. The movie they think they are starring in  just isn't that good.
2013-07-03 04:40:10 PM  
1 votes:

museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.


Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....
2013-07-03 04:36:15 PM  
1 votes:

violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.


Or needs therapy from seeing a dude get his face blasted off.
2013-07-03 04:33:31 PM  
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: OtherLittleGuy: scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?

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wants to know why you took his daughter

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2013-07-03 04:30:54 PM  
1 votes:

SirTanon: How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 390x300]


FTA: "At one point, they gave Wallace a chair and talked with him one-on-one ..."

Clint talking to a chair?  That's some damned inspired casting!
2013-07-03 04:29:35 PM  
1 votes:

GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.


I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.
2013-07-03 04:28:51 PM  
1 votes:
FrancoFile: /Old Man Jack Holloway relights his pipe, smiles, and nods.

Is that a Little Fuzzy reference? Talk about obscure


I also vote for suicide by cop.

Or he was just crazy. Can't anyone just be crazy anymore?
2013-07-03 04:28:39 PM  
1 votes:

GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception ilusion of personal safety.


FTFY
2013-07-03 04:26:30 PM  
1 votes:

violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.


Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.
2013-07-03 04:21:51 PM  
1 votes:
Salute
2013-07-03 04:21:21 PM  
1 votes:
This could've all been prevented if the little babby had been armed with a gun.

/obligatory
2013-07-03 04:20:09 PM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


I think the guy was trying to commit suicide by cop...and succeeded.
2013-07-03 04:20:03 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.

See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.


QFT

/Old Man Jack Holloway relights his pipe, smiles, and nods.
2013-07-03 04:18:42 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.

See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.


The suit isn't going to come from the family of the deceased.  It'll come from the little girl's family, upset that she's sustained irreversible hearing loss.
2013-07-03 02:27:55 PM  
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markie_farkie: Had to be suicide by cop


Yeah, that's what I'm inclined to think.
2013-07-03 01:28:27 PM  
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That'll learn em'
2013-07-03 01:11:25 PM  
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I'm guessing this guy was lousy at chess. He thought he had a checkmate, but the knight nailed him.
2013-07-03 01:09:13 PM  
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Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?
 
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