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2013-07-03 01:02:09 PM
Police said Wallace then started a 60-second countdown that the suspect warned would end up with him harming the child.

That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Dayum.

Kudos to you, Captain.
 
2013-07-03 01:09:13 PM
Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?
 
2013-07-03 01:11:25 PM
I'm guessing this guy was lousy at chess. He thought he had a checkmate, but the knight nailed him.
 
2013-07-03 01:12:51 PM
That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.
 
2013-07-03 01:16:09 PM
Had to be suicide by cop if he started a 60 second countdown..
 
2013-07-03 01:20:03 PM
Why? Is there any reason why he would do this?
 
2013-07-03 01:23:08 PM

ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.


Absolutely!
 
2013-07-03 01:23:11 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


"History of mental problems" was mentioned on the local news.

In the security footage, he walks into the store while talking on his cell phone. Grabs a cart, shops a bit, and then grabs the kid out of nowhere.
 
2013-07-03 01:25:22 PM

Blues_X: Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?

"History of mental problems" was mentioned on the local news.

In the security footage, he walks into the store while talking on his cell phone. Grabs a cart, shops a bit, and then grabs the kid out of nowhere.


That's a shame, but I can't really fault the police officer for using lethal force - if he said he was going to hurt the little girl at the end of the countdown, he had to do something.
 
2013-07-03 01:28:27 PM
That'll learn em'
 
2013-07-03 01:29:18 PM
I think that he wanted the police to kill him. He had plenty of time to hurt the girl if that was his real intention. And the policeman had time to draw his gun, walk up to him, and shoot. He could have stabbed her then, dropped her and tried to escape, etc.
 
2013-07-03 01:35:51 PM
Enjoy your wrongful death lawsuit, sir.

You're still a hero to me!
 
2013-07-03 01:42:45 PM
That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!
 
2013-07-03 01:53:46 PM

PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!


and 8, and a little in 9.
 
2013-07-03 02:08:48 PM
Nuthin' but net.
 
2013-07-03 02:23:42 PM

what_now: Why? Is there any reason why he would do this?


Suicide by cop. If he wanted to harm a child -why didn't he just do it? Why wait for the police?
 
2013-07-03 02:27:55 PM

markie_farkie: Had to be suicide by cop


Yeah, that's what I'm inclined to think.
 
2013-07-03 02:31:43 PM
I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.
 
2013-07-03 02:46:20 PM
Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.
 
2013-07-03 03:14:09 PM

basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.


See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.
 
2013-07-03 03:19:34 PM
Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

matthewturland.com

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?
 
2013-07-03 04:18:42 PM

TuteTibiImperes: basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.

See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.


The suit isn't going to come from the family of the deceased.  It'll come from the little girl's family, upset that she's sustained irreversible hearing loss.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:03 PM

TuteTibiImperes: basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.

See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.


QFT

/Old Man Jack Holloway relights his pipe, smiles, and nods.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:04 PM

ManateeGag: PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!

and 8, and a little in 9.


damn, that was funny!!!

/still laughing
 
2013-07-03 04:20:09 PM
I don't think it was suicide-by-cop, I think it was just stupid.  There's a thing I see on TV all the time I call "the magic gun" - the idea that if I point a gun at you, you are forced to do what I say.  Like "go in that room and let me torture you to death for weeks, or else I'll shoot you."  Doesn't make logical sense.  But people in the real world think that the threat of violence compels  obedience, and don't know what to do if someone refuses.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:09 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


I think the guy was trying to commit suicide by cop...and succeeded.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:53 PM

another cultural observer: TuteTibiImperes: basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.

See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.

The suit isn't going to come from the family of the deceased.  It'll come from the little girl's family, upset that she's sustained irreversible hearing loss.


Fark that, she was about to suffer irreversible respiratory and circulatory loss.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:54 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


Assholes think this sort of thing shows how tough they are.
 
2013-07-03 04:21:21 PM
This could've all been prevented if the little babby had been armed with a gun.

/obligatory
 
2013-07-03 04:21:51 PM
Salute
 
2013-07-03 04:23:37 PM
How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-07-03 04:23:41 PM

scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?


Also approves:
www.fanfilmfollies.com
 
2013-07-03 04:24:03 PM
Better than cyanide. Just out of curiosity, at any point did the attacker say what he wanted?
 
2013-07-03 04:24:47 PM

ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.

 give this dude a month of family leave and some post-trauma counseling. Having to do that kind of shiat will mess you up.
 
2013-07-03 04:26:09 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


what_now: Why? Is there any reason why he would do this?


I'm going with Totes Cray Cray for that one.
 
2013-07-03 04:26:26 PM
Good jorb.

The cops I know say that an encounter with a guy that has a bomb should proceed thusly:

Guy: I have a bo*BLAM*
 
2013-07-03 04:26:30 PM

violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.


Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.
 
2013-07-03 04:26:47 PM

Relatively Obscure: markie_farkie: Had to be suicide by cop

Yeah, that's what I'm inclined to think.


Probably; but good riddance.
 
2013-07-03 04:27:10 PM

PsyLord: This could've all been prevented if the little babby had been armed with a gun.

/obligatory


lulz
 
hej
2013-07-03 04:27:22 PM
This is why you don't hold people hostage with knives at a gun fight.
 
2013-07-03 04:27:33 PM

OtherLittleGuy: scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?

Also approves:
[www.fanfilmfollies.com image 300x176]


Also approves, wants to know if you're the man who shot his friend:
www.aceshowbiz.com
 
2013-07-03 04:28:26 PM
I'm curious as to how many posts it'll take before some asshat comes in bashing the cop for using deadly force instead of injuring the guy or trying harder to talk him down. Seems a bit odd that they tried negotiating with the guy for 30 minutes and suddenly dude decides he's gonna countdown until he hurts the kid. Seems like it was intentional suicide by cop, but there's no real way of knowing I guess unless there's audio tapes along with the video. Either way, as much as I dislike cops they did the right thing in this instance.
 
2013-07-03 04:28:39 PM

GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception ilusion of personal safety.


FTFY
 
2013-07-03 04:28:51 PM
FrancoFile: /Old Man Jack Holloway relights his pipe, smiles, and nods.

Is that a Little Fuzzy reference? Talk about obscure


I also vote for suicide by cop.

Or he was just crazy. Can't anyone just be crazy anymore?
 
2013-07-03 04:29:35 PM

GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.


I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.
 
2013-07-03 04:30:50 PM
I hope they dragged his carcass over to the gardening section and found a nice big garbage can to put him in
 
2013-07-03 04:30:54 PM

SirTanon: How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 390x300]


FTA: "At one point, they gave Wallace a chair and talked with him one-on-one ..."

Clint talking to a chair?  That's some damned inspired casting!
 
2013-07-03 04:31:30 PM

namegoeshere: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.


No, he's only MOSTLY dead!

/ TO BLATHE
 
2013-07-03 04:31:44 PM

iheartscotch: Guy: I have a bo*BLAM*


...bble head doll that looks just like you!

Damn, too late.
 
2013-07-03 04:32:15 PM
Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.
 
2013-07-03 04:32:43 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: SirTanon: How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 390x300]

FTA: "At one point, they gave Wallace a chair and talked with him one-on-one ..."

Clint talking to a chair?  That's some damned inspired casting!


I remember when Clint was really cool.  Now he's a senile old man... sadness...
 
2013-07-03 04:33:00 PM
Brought a knife to a gunfight. FAIL
 
2013-07-03 04:33:21 PM
the correct answer to "you see this knife" is "yeah" and just walk on.  not to act all ape shiat crazy
 
2013-07-03 04:33:31 PM

Satanic_Hamster: OtherLittleGuy: scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?

Also approves:
[www.fanfilmfollies.com image 300x176]

Also approves, wants to know if you're the man who shot his friend:
[www.aceshowbiz.com image 700x465]


Also approves,

filmonic.com

wants to know why you took his daughter

de.web.img1.acsta.net
 
2013-07-03 04:33:55 PM

museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.


49 comments before the first shiatpost, a new Fark best!
 
2013-07-03 04:34:22 PM

Satanic_Hamster: OtherLittleGuy: scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?

Also approves:
[www.fanfilmfollies.com image 300x176]

Also approves, wants to know if you're the man who shot his friend:
[www.aceshowbiz.com image 700x465]


Also approves:


www.lassothemovies.com
 
2013-07-03 04:34:34 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: SirTanon: How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 390x300]

FTA: "At one point, they gave Wallace a chair and talked with him one-on-one ..."

Clint talking to a chair?  That's some damned inspired casting!


The chair is to get Crazyguy to sit still. He then makes a much better target than when he is up pacing and twitching all over.
 
2013-07-03 04:34:46 PM
Eww, so much jizz in this thread
 
2013-07-03 04:34:48 PM

super_grass: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

49 comments before the first shiatpost, a new Fark best!

 
2013-07-03 04:34:49 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


According to the local news, he had a cellphone and told the local responders to call a cop in Texas.  He had the number pulled up in his phone, but they couldn't get the call to go through.
 
2013-07-03 04:34:52 PM

DaveX: iheartscotch: Guy: I have a bo*BLAM*

...bble head doll that looks just like you!

Damn, too late.


If that's the case; you shouldn't go around dressed up in a trench coat, like some perv about to flash people!

/ also, poor choice of words
 
2013-07-03 04:35:03 PM
PsyLord:

I remember when Clint was really cool.  Now he's a senile old man... sadness...

I prefer to remember him in his spaghetti western days, with some Dirty Harry thrown in.
 
2013-07-03 04:35:35 PM

ManateeGag: PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!

and 8, and a little in 9.


Dancin_In_Anson: Nuthin' but net.


See......see....this is why I come back to FARK day after day.
 
2013-07-03 04:35:57 PM
Liveleak links to the actual videos.

That's gun control.

Sometimes the cops f•ck up epically. Other times, they do really, really good work.
 
2013-07-03 04:35:59 PM
"I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just shot her with a knife!'"
 
2013-07-03 04:36:15 PM

violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.


Or needs therapy from seeing a dude get his face blasted off.
 
2013-07-03 04:37:06 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Satanic_Hamster: OtherLittleGuy: scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?

Also approves:
[www.fanfilmfollies.com image 300x176]

Also approves, wants to know if you're the man who shot his friend:
[www.aceshowbiz.com image 700x465]

Also approves:


[www.lassothemovies.com image 600x338]


Approves, wants you to know that your shopping privileges have just been revoked:
www.screeninsults.com
 
2013-07-03 04:38:18 PM
He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.
 
2013-07-03 04:39:10 PM

PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

Wet Clean-up on aisle 7!


Fixed

/didn't you ever work in retail? Ya gotta specify wet or dry...
 
2013-07-03 04:40:10 PM

museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.


Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....
 
2013-07-03 04:40:32 PM

crypticsatellite: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


i like that sentence, it just so to the point.... but leaves it up to the imagination, was his gun drawn, did he say anything? calm quick walk BAM and just turned around? or bent down picked up the kid with that guys brains all over? no expression just deal with it?
 
2013-07-03 04:40:58 PM
See? Why I never go to WalMart. The employees are bad enough, the customers are dangerous.
 
2013-07-03 04:41:23 PM

stir22: ManateeGag: PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!

and 8, and a little in 9.

damn, that was funny!!!

/still laughing


I laughed too, and kind of hate myself for it.
 
2013-07-03 04:41:27 PM

Tenga: He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.


Lol
 
2013-07-03 04:42:30 PM
*reads TFA*

O... kay... then...

Still kinda speechless.
 
2013-07-03 04:42:40 PM
There's just something about this I find a bit fishy... presumably SWAT would have been deployed, perimeter secured, etc.  And it's the police chief who just simply walks up to him and "BANG" in the head?  Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.

I'm not saying the cop's a hero for what he did, if it happened exactly as described.
 
2013-07-03 04:43:00 PM

genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....


Rarely happens. Most people who feel the need to carry a gun pee all over themselves in fear if the wind blows too hard, they'd never actually be able to respond in a crisis situation. The movie they think they are starring in  just isn't that good.
 
2013-07-03 04:43:11 PM
Even the angelic Danny Glover does not reprove you worthless bastards at the gates.
 
2013-07-03 04:43:32 PM
I thought you were always supposed to shoot the hostage?
 
2013-07-03 04:43:32 PM
That's some mighty fine police work there, Lou. No, I'm serious, it really is. Lou, I wasn't being a smart ass this time, I swear!
 
2013-07-03 04:44:45 PM
Did it happen on the Pop Tart aisle?
 
2013-07-03 04:44:48 PM

jebusfreak: Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.


There's video of it, Mr. Loose Change.
 
2013-07-03 04:45:17 PM

jchic: ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.

Absolutely!


Maybe we could all pitch in and throw him a keg party.
 
2013-07-03 04:45:42 PM
Any word on the perp's beef?
 
2013-07-03 04:47:12 PM
That's why I say man, nice shot
What a good shot man
 
2013-07-03 04:47:15 PM

Virulency: crypticsatellite: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

i like that sentence, it just so to the point.... but leaves it up to the imagination, was his gun drawn, did he say anything? calm quick walk BAM and just turned around? or bent down picked up the kid with that guys brains all over? no expression just deal with it?


The tv bit I saw had a video (not of the actual shooting, obviously.) Another officer spoke to him, causing him to look away. This guy then walked up, shot (video of brain splatter not shown) and then scooped the babby and moved away quickly. It was very fast.
 
2013-07-03 04:47:19 PM
Clean-up Isle 5!

Kid won't remember the details a few years down the road.

/I wonder what was the last thing to go through his mind?
 
2013-07-03 04:48:11 PM

jebusfreak: There's just something about this I find a bit fishy... presumably SWAT would have been deployed, perimeter secured, etc.  And it's the police chief who just simply walks up to him and "BANG" in the head?  Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.

I'm not saying the cop's a hero for what he did, if it happened exactly as described.


There's video. Every inch of WalMart is recorded.
 
2013-07-03 04:48:20 PM
Clearly a typically heinous over-use of force by another Nazi Cop.  I've played 1430 hours of SWAT 3 so I know a little something about this sort of thing!  All he had to do was flashbang the room, jump over a counter and melee the guy with his baton, problem solved.  I mean, give a guy a gun and a badge and he thinks he's a demi-god, going around deciding who lives and who dies.  It's amazing that he could find time between taking bribes and planting evidence to actually show up.  I hope he gets charged with murder.  Disarm the Pigs!!!11eleven!!

(Sorry, the lack of cop-hate in this Fark thread was making me nervous.)

In all seriousness, while the ending is unfortunate, if this cop accomplishes nothing else of significance in his entire career, he will always know that someone's daughter gets to grow up and have a life because he was there to make a difference.  Good for him.
 
2013-07-03 04:49:01 PM

goatleggedfellow: ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer. give this dude a month of family leave and some post-trauma counseling. Having to do that kind of shiat will mess you up.


Yeah, he's going to have that scene playing in his head for life. :(
 
2013-07-03 04:49:26 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: Clean-up Isle 5!

Kid won't remember the details a few years down the road.

/I wonder what was the last thing to go through his mind?


Bits of skull, I imagine.
 
2013-07-03 04:50:19 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: I'm curious as to how many posts it'll take before some asshat comes in bashing the cop for using deadly force instead of injuring the guy or trying harder to talk him down. Seems a bit odd that they tried negotiating with the guy for 30 minutes and suddenly dude decides he's gonna countdown until he hurts the kid. Seems like it was intentional suicide by cop, but there's no real way of knowing I guess unless there's audio tapes along with the video. Either way, as much as I dislike cops they did the right thing in this instance.


Tenga: He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.


So 68 comments until someone made the attempt.

Not as bad as I thought it would be.
 
2013-07-03 04:50:43 PM

museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.


yeah, because Oklahoma is an open carry state.
 
2013-07-03 04:51:33 PM
s21.postimg.org

Q&D
 
2013-07-03 04:51:35 PM
farm4.static.flickr.com

Did the cop say, "Play time's over."?
 
2013-07-03 04:52:22 PM

The_Philosopher_King: FrancoFile: /Old Man Jack Holloway relights his pipe, smiles, and nods.

Is that a Little Fuzzy reference? Talk about obscure


I also vote for suicide by cop.

Or he was just crazy. Can't anyone just be crazy anymore?


:-)

"Under Terran Federation law, anyone killed while committing a felony is simply bought and paid for. His blood is on no-one's hands but his own"
 
2013-07-03 04:52:31 PM

Tenga: He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.


FTA: They negotiated for more than 30 minutes with the suspect, Sammie Wallace, who continued to hold a knife to the toddler's neck


I'm gonna go with "That's a really bad idea".
 
2013-07-03 04:53:31 PM
Sounds like suicide by cop.  One of the most selfish and shiatty ways to off yourself.  Go find a tall building, arsehole.
 
2013-07-03 04:53:39 PM
Cop over-reacted.  That's not a knife...

3.bp.blogspot.com

/i keed
 
2013-07-03 04:54:04 PM
And people wonder why I order online.
 
2013-07-03 04:54:16 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception ilusion of personal safety.

FTFY


Or the illusion of proper spelling.
 
2013-07-03 04:54:16 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Most people who feel the need to carry a gun pee all over themselves in fear if the wind blows too hard, they'd never actually be able to respond in a crisis situation.


I'm eagerly anticipating the chance to pour over the data and citations you no doubt are preparing to post in order to back that wild ass claim up.
 
2013-07-03 04:54:34 PM

cefm: Sounds like suicide by cop.  One of the most selfish and shiatty ways to off yourself.  Go find a tall building, arsehole.


That guy's pretty big.  What happens if he lands on someone?
 
2013-07-03 04:55:51 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Tenga: He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.

FTA: They negotiated for more than 30 minutes with the suspect, Sammie Wallace, who continued to hold a knife to the toddler's neck


I'm gonna go with "That's a really bad idea".


I'm picturing a result that would look like a Tarentino clip done for Troma.
 
2013-07-03 04:56:52 PM

ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.


Hero tag well-earned, Captain.
 
2013-07-03 04:57:18 PM
Makes you wonder what was going through that guy's head. A 38 or a 9mm?
 
2013-07-03 04:57:20 PM

Boojum2k: Bathia_Mapes: Tenga: He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.

FTA: They negotiated for more than 30 minutes with the suspect, Sammie Wallace, who continued to hold a knife to the toddler's neck


I'm gonna go with "That's a really bad idea".

I'm picturing a result that would look like a Tarentino clip done for Troma.


Just think to yourself, what would Tony Scott do?
 
2013-07-03 04:57:30 PM

namegoeshere: I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.



If it was a standard glock-type weapon with an enclosed firing chamber (unlike a revolver for example), it's really not as loud as you might think. Sirens are much more damaging to a little tyke's ears.
 
2013-07-03 04:57:39 PM

GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.


The little girl is only 2, that's young enough that she likely won't remember any of it when she gets a little older (the family needs to go on with life as normally as possible though, so she doesn't start to sense something is wrong - which might be tough at first).

Parents should definitely take her to a child psychologist to make sure she's alright, but I'd be willing to bet the mom and sister suffer psychologically more than the 2 year old (they should get some help too - I'd be a mess if something like this happened to my kid).
 
2013-07-03 04:58:30 PM

Magnanimous_J: namegoeshere: I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.


If it was a standard glock-type weapon with an enclosed firing chamber (unlike a revolver for example), it's really not as loud as you might think. Sirens are much more damaging to a little tyke's ears.


I really do love Fark.
 
2013-07-03 04:59:41 PM

INeedAName: Makes you wonder what was going through that guy's head. A 38 or a 9mm?


.40 or .45 also likely.

Hallow point to boot
 
2013-07-03 05:01:40 PM

genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....


Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.
 
2013-07-03 05:01:58 PM

jebusfreak: There's just something about this I find a bit fishy... presumably SWAT would have been deployed, perimeter secured, etc.  And it's the police chief who just simply walks up to him and "BANG" in the head?  Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.


Ahh.....THERE we go.   I knew the X-Box Swat Teamtm would show up eventually to offer their "expert" analysis.  NOW it's a proper Fark thread.
 
2013-07-03 05:02:03 PM

s2s2s2: Any word on the perp's beef?


Video narration by the police says the guy was literally yammering about Illuminati and George W. Bush personally surveilling him.

IOW:
 
2013-07-03 05:02:52 PM

BKITU: s2s2s2: Any word on the perp's beef?

Video narration by the police says the guy was literally yammering about Illuminati and George W. Bush personally surveilling him.

IOW:


Derp

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-03 05:04:06 PM

BKITU: BKITU: s2s2s2: Any word on the perp's beef?

Video narration by the police says the guy was literally yammering about Illuminati and George W. Bush personally surveilling him.

IOW:

Derp


Yet strangely fitting
 
2013-07-03 05:04:10 PM

ManateeGag: PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!

and 8, and a little in 9.


ah... having a bad day.
Thanks for that, I lol'd.
 
2013-07-03 05:05:24 PM
For every 10 "bad" cop story I hear about, there's this one that makes me wonder what the eff is going on in the police stations...
 
2013-07-03 05:05:53 PM

jebusfreak: There's just something about this I find a bit fishy... presumably SWAT would have been deployed, perimeter secured, etc.  And it's the police chief who just simply walks up to him and "BANG" in the head?  Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.

I'm not saying the cop's a hero for what he did, if it happened exactly as described.


You're not saying the cop's a hero?  Or did you mean to say, "I'm not saying the cop's not a hero"???

Also, captain != chief
 
2013-07-03 05:06:12 PM

DORMAMU: INeedAName: Makes you wonder what was going through that guy's head. A 38 or a 9mm?

.40 or .45 also likely.

Hallow point to boot


Was the guy a vampire too?
 
2013-07-03 05:08:23 PM

iheartscotch: namegoeshere: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.

No, he's only MOSTLY dead!

/ TO BLATHE


Blave.  To blave.
 
2013-07-03 05:12:06 PM

markie_farkie: suicide by cop


This.
 
2013-07-03 05:13:17 PM
This is why we need to arm all Wal-Mart greeters.

/seriously though, I feel sorry for the cop, but he did right.  Someone needs to remind him every day he has a flashback that he didn't so much kill a man as save a little girl's life.
 
2013-07-03 05:14:06 PM

violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally


if ( cop )
ok_mentally = FALSE;

/just sayin'
 
2013-07-03 05:14:41 PM

J.Shelby: iheartscotch: namegoeshere: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.

No, he's only MOSTLY dead!

/ TO BLATHE

Blave.  To blave.


To be fair, I'm not sure that blave/blathe, either one, are words.
 
2013-07-03 05:14:53 PM

SavageWombat: I don't think it was suicide-by-cop, I think it was just stupid.  There's a thing I see on TV all the time I call "the magic gun" - the idea that if I point a gun at you, you are forced to do what I say.  Like "go in that room and let me torture you to death for weeks, or else I'll shoot you."  Doesn't make logical sense.  But people in the real world think that the threat of violence compels  obedience, and don't know what to do if someone refuses.


Without that theory half of The Deer Hunter would be out the window.  So, we're going to sit here and play Russian Roulette for our captors until we die because if we don't they'll... shoot us in the head?
 
2013-07-03 05:16:17 PM
And nothing of value was lost.

Now que the insane mom blithering on about how he was a good boy and the cop had no right to shoot him.
 
2013-07-03 05:17:13 PM

namegoeshere: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

I worry about her hearing, although better partially deaf than dead I suppose.


One shot will cause a very small amount of hearing damage, which is permanent (and cumulative). She'll be fine both hearing-wise and mentally.

Young children bounce back a lot better that adults.
 
2013-07-03 05:19:46 PM

spill_thrill: Eww, so much jizz in this thread


When a girl gets killed because a cop wouldn't react, I fully expect you to post in the following thread so that we can show you what an idiot you are.
 
2013-07-03 05:24:13 PM
"I did not maintain my composure. I was completely freaked out," she said. "I wanted to reach out and grab her but he had a knife. There was nothing I could do but stand there and beg for her life."

And that, is why so many american's carry sidearms.
 
2013-07-03 05:24:47 PM

museamused: Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.


Most cops (90%ish) shoot their firearms the bare minimum required, usually the yearly qualification (if their dept can even afford that). Mine requires yearly qualifications with optional quarterly range time. I'm generally one of 3 or 4 deputies who show up to the quarterly events. Many deputies end up needing to reshoot just to qualify. I've also attended some advanced shooting school run by civilians, and the few fellow law enforcement officers who actually put the time and money in to do that kind of thing on the side are usually less accurate and slower than other civilians there. The things is...I started shooting before I became a cop just for fun. I enjoy it. I like practicing, I like learning about ballistics and powder burn rates. I like taking them apart and seeing how they work. I'm good at shooting because it was a hobby first that became part of my job later, not because the police academy trained me. I actually had to work to unlearn some of the garbage the academy tried to "teach".

It makes sense when you really thing about it. To a cop, a gun is just a tool of the job. Generally people who do something because they truly enjoy it are better at that thing than people who do it because their job requires it. People who work on cars because they grew up loving engines and mechanics, people who write computer code (just think of how much better amateur mods make games like Skyrim) vs someone who slogs through it for work. Hobbyists are just generally more proficient at specific tasks than someone for whom that task is a required aspect to stay employed. And it shows. How many office workers are really good with computers even though they are forced to use them every day vs. an IT guy who enjoyed learning about computers long before it became his job? How many cab drivers, bus drivers, pizza delivery guys, even cops are great at fixing cars even though they drive them every day vs. the kid who loved tinkering with engines and  thendecided to be a mechanic?

The myth that police are expert shots just because their job issues them a gun is as false as some office drone being a computer whiz because they were given a desk with a computer.
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearm-accessories/gun-cle an ing/articles/1764925-Where-did-all-the-bullets-go/
 
2013-07-03 05:25:04 PM

jebusfreak: There's just something about this I find a bit fishy... presumably SWAT would have been deployed, perimeter secured, etc.  And it's the police chief who just simply walks up to him and "BANG" in the head?  Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.

I'm not saying the cop's a hero for what he did, if it happened exactly as described.


Midwest City, OK (population 55,000) has a SWAT team?
 
2013-07-03 05:26:45 PM
I joyoused out loud.
Ballsy (and very risky) move by the good Captain.
I salute you, Captain Huff.
 
2013-07-03 05:30:07 PM

ManateeGag: PreMortem: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.


Clean-up on aisle 7!

and 8, and a little in 9.

Herb, I wasn't even in aisle 9!
 
2013-07-03 05:32:15 PM

crypticsatellite: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

Dayum.

Kudos to you, Captain.


Could he have safely done this if the perp had been holding a gun instead of a knife?  Something I am trying to understand, whether you can count on the perp dying "fast enough", or if they might reflexively pull the trigger.
 
2013-07-03 05:32:37 PM
I don't think the little girl is going to suffer any hearing loss. That gun looks like it was right against the guy's head.

Bravest damned cop in America.
 
2013-07-03 05:32:43 PM

markie_farkie: Had to be suicide by cop if he started a 60 second countdown..


...and then proceeded to not harm the child in the time that it took for the officer to walk up to him, draw his weapon, and point it at the perp's head. Yeah, definitely suicide by cop.

Which always kind of pisses me off.  That clown affected a whole lot of other people in his effort to rid the world of himself---it's kind of a dick move.  The cop can't feel good about having killed a guy, the mother and family were probably traumatized, etc.
 
2013-07-03 05:33:28 PM

museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.


I have a permit, frequently carry, and I think I would have shot the guy in the head just like the cop did. Video footage of everything, a textbook case of justified shooting, I think I would take the shot.

I'm awfully glad I wasn't there because unlike the anti-gun-carry propaganda we're not all carrying while mentally masturbating about getting the chance to kill someone.

/although I know some who seem to be but I really think it's all talk
 
2013-07-03 05:36:27 PM
Clearing up a few things, as this happened locally and I followed it and watched the entire surveillance tape....

This was more a case of crazy than suicide by cop. The suspect was a paranoid schizophrenic. While police were negotiating with him for half an hour, he was ranting about the Illuminati, said he was being watched by George Bush and claimed to be the richest man in the world. He did time in Texas for shooting through a wall and hitting a child.

There was a SWAT team there, but the people who were dealing with the suspect were the department's two hostage negotiators, a sergeant and a captain. As he started counting from 60 by tens, he was looking at the sergeant and the captain just took three quick steps and capped him in the right temple. Calm and collected. He even ducked around and checked his gun during the negotiations to make sure there was a round in the chamber.
 
2013-07-03 05:37:25 PM
Just a victim of the in-house drive-by.
 
2013-07-03 05:38:27 PM
Obviously this man had found out the truth about Obama's birth certificate and knew the Clinton/Obama hit team was closing in so he made a desperate move, thinking if he could get the truth out, like by getting a news crew there, he could save his life. He didn't count on the local police being under the control of the Clinton/Obama cabal.
 
2013-07-03 05:39:46 PM

KidneyStone: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

I have a permit, frequently carry, and I think I would have shot the guy in the head just like the cop did. Video footage of everything, a textbook case of justified shooting, I think I would take the shot.

I'm awfully glad I wasn't there because unlike the anti-gun-carry propaganda we're not all carrying while mentally masturbating about getting the chance to kill someone.

/although I know some who seem to be but I really think it's all talk


He had a knife to the girl's throat and likely would have stabbed her in the neck if you tried to approach. The only reason the cop was able to take the shot safely is because he was distracted looking at another officer while he counted down. There is a reason we let the police handle these things and not d-bags who took a one-day gun safety class.
 
2013-07-03 05:42:14 PM

Befuddled: Obviously this man had found out the truth about Obama's birth certificate and knew the Clinton/Obama hit team was closing in so he made a desperate move, thinking if he could get the truth out, like by getting a news crew there, he could save his life. He didn't count on the local police being under the control of the Clinton/Obama cabal.


Close. He claimed he was being watched by George Bush. And something about the Illuminati and a Satanic cult.
 
2013-07-03 05:44:32 PM
I guess his "history of mental problems" was brought to a final conclusion, double underlined.
 
2013-07-03 05:45:36 PM

violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.


These are the only unresolved issues, assuming Wal-Mart does proper biohazard cleanup.
 
2013-07-03 05:52:42 PM
Poor kid, maybe a fireworks show will calm her down.
0.tqn.com
 
2013-07-03 05:55:42 PM

RedT: "I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just shot her with a knife!'"


''Hotlips, you incredible nincompoop, it's just the end of the quarter.''
 
2013-07-03 05:56:09 PM
Captain David Huff is a farking hero, indeed. I'm not saying this is ALWAYS the appropriate way to end a hostage situation, but damn if it didn't work extremely well here. And before anyone mews at me for disregarding the child's life: That didn't happen. The dude could have just as easily ended that count down at any second he choose and killed that girl. That also didn't happen. What did happen, however, was a HUGE SUCCESS.

/I'm making a note here
 
2013-07-03 05:58:13 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: SirTanon: How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 390x300]

FTA: "At one point, they gave Wallace a chair and talked with him one-on-one ..."

Clint talking to a chair?  That's some damned inspired casting!


I thought the same thing, except not talking to a chair, but more... "how can you be talking one-on-one if he's holding the hostage"?  If it was one-on-one there wouldn't be a hostage.
 
2013-07-03 06:02:47 PM

LouisZepher: RedT: "I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just shot her with a knife!'"

''Hotlips, you incredible nincompoop, it's just the end of the quarter.''


Heh!
 
2013-07-03 06:12:43 PM

Com-un-sense: Clearing up a few things, as this happened locally and I followed it and watched the entire surveillance tape....

This was more a case of crazy than suicide by cop. The suspect was a paranoid schizophrenic. While police were negotiating with him for half an hour, he was ranting about the Illuminati, said he was being watched by George Bush and claimed to be the richest man in the world. He did time in Texas for shooting through a wall and hitting a child.

There was a SWAT team there, but the people who were dealing with the suspect were the department's two hostage negotiators, a sergeant and a captain. As he started counting from 60 by tens, he was looking at the sergeant and the captain just took three quick steps and capped him in the right temple. Calm and collected. He even ducked around and checked his gun during the negotiations to make sure there was a round in the chamber.


Sad all around, really.
 
2013-07-03 06:16:39 PM

JungleBoogie: Liveleak links to the actual videos.

That's gun control.

Sometimes the cops f•ck up epically. Other times, they do really, really good work.


this is actually a paradox. What makes cops giant douches in many ways also make them do 'great work' every once in a while. This is actually a classic example. Someone who is not prone to violence with a hint of psychopathic tendencies and A type personality is not going to simply walk up to a total stranger and point blank shoot him dead in the face even if said stranger is holding a hostage.
 
2013-07-03 06:19:05 PM

museamused: genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....

Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.


Why would it be assumed that a private citizen could not satisfy this requirement and also that being a cop necessarily fulfills those requirements?
 
2013-07-03 06:19:56 PM
Good.

/Good.
 
2013-07-03 06:20:58 PM
"I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just killed her.' I thought, 'she's dead,'" she said.
Is mom an idiot, or what?
 
2013-07-03 06:22:19 PM

taurusowner: museamused: Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.

...

The myth that police are expert shots just because their job issues them a gun is as false as some office drone being a computer whiz because they were given a desk with a computer.


That's still not really applicable in this situation though. The cop didn't need to be a marksman in here, just experienced and conditioned.
 
2013-07-03 06:24:31 PM

Satanic_Hamster: OtherLittleGuy: scottydoesntknow: Were they dealing with a Mangalore?

[matthewturland.com image 480x217]

/Anyone else wanna negotiate?

Also approves:
[www.fanfilmfollies.com image 300x176]

Also approves, wants to know if you're the man who shot his friend:
[www.aceshowbiz.com image 700x465]


LOL. Good call, that was a freakin' awesome scene.
 
2013-07-03 06:26:26 PM

SuperNinjaToad: JungleBoogie: Liveleak links to the actual videos.

That's gun control.

Sometimes the cops f•ck up epically. Other times, they do really, really good work.

this is actually a paradox. What makes cops giant douches in many ways also make them do 'great work' every once in a while. This is actually a classic example. Someone who is not prone to violence with a hint of psychopathic tendencies and A type personality is not going to simply walk up to a total stranger and point blank shoot him dead in the face even if said stranger is holding a hostage.


You're either a master troll or a master dipshiat.

I'll split the difference and salute you with a size 12 boot in the ass.
 
2013-07-03 06:29:14 PM

Highroller48: Clearly a typically heinous over-use of force by another Nazi Cop.  I've played 1430 hours of SWAT 3 so I know a little something about this sort of thing!  All he had to do was flashbang the room, jump over a counter and melee the guy with his baton, problem solved.  I mean, give a guy a gun and a badge and he thinks he's a demi-god, going around deciding who lives and who dies.  It's amazing that he could find time between taking bribes and planting evidence to actually show up.  I hope he gets charged with murder.  Disarm the Pigs!!!11eleven!!

(Sorry, the lack of cop-hate in this Fark thread was making me nervous.)

In all seriousness, while the ending is unfortunate, if this cop accomplishes nothing else of significance in his entire career, he will always know that someone's daughter gets to grow up and have a life because he was there to make a difference.  Good for him.


Thanks buddy, that was wierding me out too.

And it's nice to hear something a cop did that turned out about the best that could be hoped for at that point, and was all by the book. They tried to talk him down, he escataled, it's a damn shame but it could have been worse.
 
2013-07-03 06:29:38 PM

Bokononist: The cop didn't need to be a marksman in here, just experienced and conditioned.


I doubt the Captain had killed anyone before, so experience is out the window. Conditioned? I'd just call it a gut check. No one knows how they would react until they are in a situation that requires that intestinal fortitude.
 
2013-07-03 06:29:56 PM
I just want you all to know I am putting all your names and responses in a spreadsheet and correlating them with the cop hate threads. Some time in the future, I will post the results for all to see.
 
2013-07-03 06:30:17 PM
just walks up to the guy and puts a bullet into him---this is what you get from hiring ex-mob hitmen as police chiefs---efficiency.  in some departments, you would have half the force emptying their guns in the general direction of the bad guy, and may not even score a hit.

think of the cost savings that not only the chief has provided for the department, at the same time saving the taxpayers the cost of prosecution expenses and jail expenses.

way to go, chief!!!  keep up the good work.
 
2013-07-03 06:33:12 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Tenga: He should have just shot the knife out of his hand.

FTA: They negotiated for more than 30 minutes with the suspect, Sammie Wallace, who continued to hold a knife to the toddler's neck

I'm gonna go with "That's a really bad idea".


Well duh, you bank the bullet off the back wall and a shelf and have it knock the blade away from behind.
 
2013-07-03 06:33:14 PM

johndalek: just walks up to the guy and puts a bullet into him---this is what you get from hiring ex-mob hitmen as police chiefs---efficiency.  in some departments, you would have half the force emptying their guns in the general direction of the bad guy, and may not even score a hit.

think of the cost savings that not only the chief has provided for the department, at the same time saving the taxpayers the cost of prosecution expenses and jail expenses.

way to go, chief!!!  keep up the good work.


You're using 100 lb test line. Ain't gonna get any hits with that. 0/10
 
2013-07-03 06:34:00 PM

Cyno01: "I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just killed her.' I thought, 'she's dead,'" she said.
Is mom an idiot, or what?


Mom is a mother facing the highest stress situation of her life. Nothing in her past has prepared her for this level of stress. She is flooded with adrenaline the likes of which she has never known. Her baby is in mortal danger and she is completely helpless. A shot was fired in the area in which her child is being held at knifepoint.

No. Mom is not an idiot. She is human.
 
2013-07-03 06:34:03 PM
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2013-07-03 06:35:05 PM
I don't think the kid needs therapy. She wasn't hurt, and if she was smart for her age then she'd know the guy holding her was bad and deserved to be killed. She might think "Ewww gross, skull pieces, blood, and brain jelly all over the floor! And the smell...yuuuuckkkk... mama I want a big mac!".
 
2013-07-03 06:35:35 PM

MarkEC: Bokononist: The cop didn't need to be a marksman in here, just experienced and conditioned.

I doubt the Captain had killed anyone before, so experience is out the window. Conditioned? I'd just call it a gut check. No one knows how they would react until they are in a situation that requires that intestinal fortitude.


You show me a citizen familiarized on the subtleties of lunatics and criminals confidently enough to act on them and I'll show you a person who's a lunatic or a criminal.
 
2013-07-03 06:36:12 PM

Highroller48: jebusfreak: There's just something about this I find a bit fishy... presumably SWAT would have been deployed, perimeter secured, etc.  And it's the police chief who just simply walks up to him and "BANG" in the head?  Yeah, I don't think it went down EXACTLY as reported.

Ahh.....THERE we go.   I knew the X-Box Swat Teamtm would show up eventually to offer their "expert" analysis.  NOW it's a proper Fark thread.


Sarcasm meter broken? Jesus.
 
2013-07-03 06:39:35 PM

GreenSun: I don't think the kid needs therapy. She wasn't hurt, and if she was smart for her age then she'd know the guy holding her was bad and deserved to be killed. She might think "Ewww gross, skull pieces, blood, and brain jelly all over the floor! And the smell...yuuuuckkkk... mama I want a big mac!".


The kid was 2 and a half. She isn't going to remember it.
 
2013-07-03 06:40:16 PM

Bokononist: MarkEC: Bokononist: The cop didn't need to be a marksman in here, just experienced and conditioned.

I doubt the Captain had killed anyone before, so experience is out the window. Conditioned? I'd just call it a gut check. No one knows how they would react until they are in a situation that requires that intestinal fortitude.

You show me a citizen familiarized on the subtleties of lunatics and criminals confidently enough to act on them and I'll show you a person who's a lunatic or a criminal.


They're the faces of the stranger, but we love to try them on.
 
2013-07-03 06:41:50 PM
willfullyobscureFine by me!/2 largely unevenful years on a small force
 
2013-07-03 06:45:02 PM

MarkEC: Bokononist: The cop didn't need to be a marksman in here, just experienced and conditioned.

I doubt the Captain had killed anyone before, so experience is out the window. Conditioned? I'd just call it a gut check. No one knows how they would react until they are in a situation that requires that intestinal fortitude.


Mostly this. You certainly don't need accuracy from two inches, but you need some seriously calm nerves to get that close in that situation. If you watch the video, you'll see that as the guy starts counting, the captain crouches. The suspect is looking the other way. He doesn't run at him or make big movements that might have caught the guy's attention. He takes a few quick steps and fires. Decisive but not rushed. Really spectacular reaction.

One other thing. This store is literally a few hundred feet from the police station. The hostage negotiators were there in seconds.
 
2013-07-03 06:47:17 PM
Eugenics By Cop
 
2013-07-03 06:47:39 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: Clean-up Isle 5!

Kid won't remember the details a few years down the road.

/I wonder what was the last thing to go through his mind?


A 9mm
 
2013-07-03 06:56:56 PM

SirTanon: How long till they sign Clint Eastwood for the film role?

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It was five.
 
2013-07-03 07:02:56 PM

namegoeshere: Cyno01: "I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just killed her.' I thought, 'she's dead,'" she said.
Is mom an idiot, or what?

Mom is a mother facing the highest stress situation of her life. Nothing in her past has prepared her for this level of stress. She is flooded with adrenaline the likes of which she has never known. Her baby is in mortal danger and she is completely helpless. A shot was fired in the area in which her child is being held at knifepoint.

No. Mom is not an idiot. She is human.


Cyno01, on the other hand, is a farkmook moran of the highest caliber.
 
2013-07-03 07:21:00 PM

Highroller48: Clearly a typically heinous over-use of force by another Nazi Cop.  I've played 1430 hours of SWAT 3 so I know a little something about this sort of thing!  All he had to do was flashbang the room, jump over a counter and melee the guy with his baton, problem solved.  I mean, give a guy a gun and a badge and he thinks he's a demi-god, going around deciding who lives and who dies.  It's amazing that he could find time between taking bribes and planting evidence to actually show up.  I hope he gets charged with murder.  Disarm the Pigs!!!11eleven!!

(Sorry, the lack of cop-hate in this Fark thread was making me nervous.)

In all seriousness, while the ending is unfortunate, if this cop accomplishes nothing else of significance in his entire career, he will always know that someone's daughter gets to grow up and have a life because he was there to make a difference.  Good for him.


Until she turn 15, hooks up with the local meth dealer, starts turning tricks to support her habit and ends up dead because she couldn't make payout to the strip club for fronting her the toot. Then he will be on scene investigating, realize who she is and have a moment of sad.

/c'mon. It IS Oklahoma.
 
2013-07-03 07:21:28 PM

museamused: genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....

Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.


Here's the thing a lot of self-proclaimed gun control advocates seem to miss, due to cognitive dissonance or otherwise: the argument for carry (concealed or otherwise) is not fundamentally about "pretending to be a cop", it's about having the ability to defend oneself and others if police are not available during an active threat. Luckily for this little girl, the loon didn't follow through with his threats during the few minutes that the police were still en route. I'm not going to entertain speculation about "yeah, but what if"s in this situation, but I'm certainly glad it turned out with the correct person losing their life, no matter who it was who ultimately pulled the trigger.

Also, just for clarity, every gun class I've been through starts the lesson with step 1: "if you're* able to escape unharmed, do so."

*plural form
 
2013-07-03 07:24:35 PM

goatleggedfellow: ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer. give this dude a month of family leave and some post-trauma counseling. Having to do that kind of shiat will mess you up.


People who are competent and fully in command don't require massive leave, nor counseling. The cop did his job, just like putting down a dog with rabies. The kid will need help but she'll get over it, especially since the outcome made sense in a metaphysical way (bad person suffers). I watched dozens of people blown up right in front of me at the age of 6, had their blood on me, and missed half a day of school. Traumatic, yes. Didn't need a full time psychiatrist for a year.
 
2013-07-03 07:25:17 PM
Old high school classmate went through some tough times, got depressed, and then was diagnosed with a brain tumor.  Operable, but with side effects like the ones you hear the commercial announcer run through after one of those drug advertisements.  He chose death by cop instead.  His weapon was a van, crashing into a police cruiser.  Police officer thought his life was in danger and went for the headshot.

/ran with a different crowd than me
//twin knew him pretty well, though
 
2013-07-03 07:27:02 PM

Spanky McStupid: justanotherfarkinfarker: Clean-up Isle 5!

Kid won't remember the details a few years down the road.

/I wonder what was the last thing to go through his mind?

A 9mm


I like to think the last thing that went through his head, other than that bullet, was to wonder how the hell David Huff ever got the best of him.
 
2013-07-03 07:30:40 PM

ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.


The props are for being a ranking officer on scene AND being the one willing to take the shot.
 
2013-07-03 07:31:00 PM

OnlyM3: "I did not maintain my composure. I was completely freaked out," she said. "I wanted to reach out and grab her but he had a knife. There was nothing I could do but stand there and beg for her life."

And that, is why so many american's carry sidearms.


So a hysterical mother can point a gun at a man holding her child?  F*ck that.
 
2013-07-03 07:31:46 PM

Bith Set Me Up: I like to think the last thing that went through his head, other than that bullet, was to wonder how the hell David Huff ever got the best of him.


"Zihuatanejo"
 
2013-07-03 07:33:21 PM

TuteTibiImperes: basemetal: Meh, dude asked for it, and while a wrongful death suit will be settled if it comes to fruition, (only because it's cheaper than a trial), no jury in this state would award the family jack or shiat.

See, that's something I have a problem with.  By just paying the family off they're perpetuating the problem - the next time somebody has a loser case they'll still threaten to get the settlement money.  Better to spend more right now and make an example out of him, and any other bullshiat wrongful death suits they face, by making sure they not only get nothing but get slapped with attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit in the first place.

If you're killed or injured during the commission of a felony neither you nor your family should have grounds to sue.


I do not disagree one bit.
 
2013-07-03 07:41:25 PM
Cyno01 [TotalFark]
2013-07-03 06:20:58 PM


"I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just killed her.' I thought, 'she's dead,'" she said.
Is mom an idiot, or what?

You're not exactly Mr. Current events now are you.

All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers
 
2013-07-03 07:47:35 PM
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2013-07-03 07:47:40 PM
If I live to be 100, I will never understand people who hurt kids. I mean, snatching a 2 year old and using her as a hostage... WTF?!

/Cop did the right thing
//Hopefully the kid is young enough to forget it ever happened
 
2013-07-03 08:03:27 PM

DesktopHippie: If I live to be 100, I will never understand people who hurt kids. I mean, snatching a 2 year old and using her as a hostage... WTF?!

/Cop did the right thing
//Hopefully the kid is young enough to forget it ever happened


Sure,  under normal circumstances, but odds are the mother will pester her for life with stories of 'that day', send her links to the online video of the head shot, etc. IOW, the poor little tot doesn't stand a chance.
 
2013-07-03 08:25:25 PM
For those hoping that the girl will be mentally okay. Don't worry.  Brains do not myelinate until about age 8 so forming strong memories before that time is difficult but not impossible. I think the mom and the officer involved in the shooting will be more at risk although from the calm that officer displayed he is certainly a veteran of tight situations. Kuodos to him. We all certainly wish that deadly force not be involved but I for one feel this was clearly and indisputably justified based on the video footage available.  Well done and glad the child is safe, as a father of 4 that is a nightmare situation and thank you to the police!
 
2013-07-03 08:31:12 PM

The_Philosopher_King: FrancoFile: /Old Man Jack Holloway relights his pipe, smiles, and nods.

Is that a Little Fuzzy reference? Talk about obscure


I also vote for suicide by cop.

Or he was just crazy. Can't anyone just be crazy anymore?


Ol' "Peace lovin'" Jack Holloway?
Last time somebody drew on Jack, they ruled it a suicide.


/far from obscure
 
2013-07-03 08:49:26 PM

Brittabot: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

The little girl is only 2, that's young enough that she likely won't remember any of it when she gets a little older (the family needs to go on with life as normally as possible though, so she doesn't start to sense something is wrong - which might be tough at first).

Parents should definitely take her to a child psychologist to make sure she's alright, but I'd be willing to bet the mom and sister suffer psychologically more than the 2 year old (they should get some help too - I'd be a mess if something like this happened to my kid).


Toddlerhood is often referred to as "the formative years." The little girl may not remember all the details of what happened, but she may grow up to feel anxiety in situations that have elements of that scene -- and not really remember why. For example, she may get really panicky when somebody picks her up and puts her in their lap -- and not really understand why that scares the hell out of her.

Which does not bode well for her if she plans to spin around a brass pole someday.
 
2013-07-03 09:03:09 PM

WordyGrrl: Brittabot: GoldDude: violentsalvation: I hope the cop is OK mentally and the little girl doesn't have any hearing damage.

Hope the little girl is okay physically and psychologically.  A situation like that can shatter your perception of personal safety.

The little girl is only 2, that's young enough that she likely won't remember any of it when she gets a little older (the family needs to go on with life as normally as possible though, so she doesn't start to sense something is wrong - which might be tough at first).

Parents should definitely take her to a child psychologist to make sure she's alright, but I'd be willing to bet the mom and sister suffer psychologically more than the 2 year old (they should get some help too - I'd be a mess if something like this happened to my kid).

Toddlerhood is often referred to as "the formative years." The little girl may not remember all the details of what happened, but she may grow up to feel anxiety in situations that have elements of that scene -- and not really remember why. For example, she may get really panicky when somebody picks her up and puts her in their lap -- and not really understand why that scares the hell out of her.

Which does not bode well for her if she plans to spin around a brass pole someday.


This is a good point.

Every time this girl, at any point in her life, has a knife held to her side, she's going to feel anxiety.
 
2013-07-03 09:09:04 PM

Hermione_Granger: I don't think the little girl is going to suffer any hearing loss. That gun looks like it was right against the guy's head.

Bravest damned cop in America.


Brave, certainly. Ice-f•cking-cold too.

"I see, the blood all over your hands
Does it make you feel, more like a man?
Was it all, just a part of your plan?
The pistol's shakin' in my hands"

-- "Always", Saliva

Fortunately for that little girl, the pistol did not shake in Captain Huff's hands.
 
2013-07-03 09:19:27 PM

TheSwissNavy: goatleggedfellow: ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer. give this dude a month of family leave and some post-trauma counseling. Having to do that kind of shiat will mess you up.

People who are competent and fully in command don't require massive leave, nor counseling. The cop did his job, just like putting down a dog with rabies. The kid will need help but she'll get over it, especially since the outcome made sense in a metaphysical way (bad person suffers). I watched dozens of people blown up right in front of me at the age of 6, had their blood on me, and missed half a day of school. Traumatic, yes. Didn't need a full time psychiatrist for a year.


Do you not believe in PTSD?

Yeah, we've all seen some shiat, but not done some shiat.

This cop had to make the decision to raise up (alone) in calm, controlled surroundings and cap somebody point blank in the head. Not a rabid dog, but a malfunctioning human with a human face and body. Memories of that won't play with context all the time.

The cop prolly won't need lots of counseling, but he'll prolly get some mandatory counseling to see if he's still cool.

/Internet tough guys need to meet some real-life cops
 
2013-07-03 09:41:25 PM

s2s2s2: Any word on the perp's beef?


Smoked.
 
2013-07-03 09:48:14 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


Death by cop?
 
2013-07-03 09:52:23 PM
But thats not what happens when you hold kids hostage in movies.
 
2013-07-03 10:11:56 PM
"I heard the shot go off and I thought, 'Oh my God, they just killed her.' I thought, 'she's dead,'" she said. "


Why?  Was the kid black?
 
2013-07-03 10:19:42 PM
As much as I despise the typical cop, kudos, buy the man a beer, did what had to happen, etc.

It may have been suicide by cop, but if so, he did it RIGHT.
 
2013-07-03 10:40:14 PM
I love this cop so much!
 Way to handle it Sir!
 
2013-07-03 11:10:04 PM
That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

As should be done to anyone who threatens the life of an innocent child.
Hope Captain Huff has a wonderful weekend and hope the parents of Mr. Wallace have a wonderful weekend as well.
 
2013-07-03 11:10:08 PM

jchic: ManateeGag: That's when police Capt. David Huff walked up to Wallace and shot him point-blank in the head.

I want to buy this mother-farker a beer.

Absolutely!


Fark should buy him a keg. I still don't know why he took her hostage???
 
2013-07-03 11:13:40 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


Low IQ? Daddy Issues? Lack of breastfeeding?
Who really cares. Daughter is safe with mom and bad guy gets a bullet to the head.
We all win.
 
2013-07-03 11:16:56 PM

Cythraul: Why the hell did he take the girl hostage to begin with?


If he had lived, I'm guessing a successful insanity defense would have been the endgame.

/Waiting for family members of Sammie Wallace to wail on TV about what a "good Christian man" he was and was "cut down in the prime of his ilfe" by "out of control" police as they "demand an investigation".
 
2013-07-03 11:28:21 PM

namegoeshere: No. Mom is not an idiot. She is human.


Exactly.
 
2013-07-03 11:35:12 PM
It's sad that the guy was crazy, and it's horrible that he dragged a little girl into it, but at least the crazy dead guy let the cops know that he really wanted to be shot in the head & not to actually go through with killing the girl.
 
2013-07-04 12:21:02 AM

namegoeshere: justanotherfarkinfarker: Clean-up Isle 5!

Kid won't remember the details a few years down the road.

/I wonder what was the last thing to go through his mind?

Bits of skull, I imagine.


See I'm going with a .40 S&W jacketed hollow-point.
 
2013-07-04 12:27:33 AM

Bathia_Mapes: namegoeshere: No. Mom is not an idiot. She is human.

Exactly.


Poor woman was trying to stretch her shopping dollars. That by itself would make anybody drop their guard.
 
2013-07-04 01:06:36 AM
I'm guessing death by cop is the only logical conclusion for his motive.
 
2013-07-04 01:07:40 AM
Satanic_Hamster:
Every time this girl, at any point in her life, has a knife held to her side, she's going to feel anxiety.

uhm, that's true for many people.
 
2013-07-04 01:20:34 AM
What if he missed?
 
2013-07-04 01:54:24 AM

TOSViolation: I'm guessing death by cop is the only logical conclusion for his motive.


Paranoid schizophrenia. He was ranting about the illuminati and being the richest man in the world.
 
2013-07-04 01:55:30 AM

Fista-Phobia: What if he missed?


Um, it's pretty hard to miss from two inches. The surveillance video cuts out just before the shot. He put his gun right to the guy's temple. He couldn't miss.
 
2013-07-04 02:01:11 AM
radiumsoup:

Here's the thing a lot of self-proclaimed gun control advocates seem to miss, due to cognitive dissonance or otherwise: the argument for carry (concealed or otherwise) is not fundamentally about "pretending to be a cop", it's about having the ability to defend oneself and others if police are not available during an active threat. Luckily for this little girl, the loon didn't follow through with his threats during the few minutes that the police were still en route. I'm not going to entertain speculation about "yeah, but what if"s in this situation, but I'm certainly glad it turned out with the correct person losing their life, no matter who it was who ultimately pulled the trigger.

Also, just for clarity, every gun class I've been through starts the lesson with step 1: "if you're* able to escape unharmed, do so."

*plural form


Here's the thing a lot of vigilante wannabes seem to miss, due to cognitive dissonance or otherwise: the argument against carry (concealed or otherwise) is that the vast majority of those carrying aren't trained in how to react to a situation where there is an active threat, and it's far more likely their kids or grandkids will find the gun and blow their own heads off than the gun owner successfully defending him/herself or others. There are other arguments as well, including the reality that if more people are carrying guns, the likelihood of an armed confrontation between two pissed off/drunk or dumb people goes ever higher. I could go on, but this is Fark, so why bother?
 
2013-07-04 02:17:10 AM

Com-un-sense: Fista-Phobia: What if he missed?

Um, it's pretty hard to miss from two inches. The surveillance video cuts out just before the shot. He put his gun right to the guy's temple. He couldn't miss.


Sorry. What if he slipped on the floor while making his move? I don't know. These great moments in firearm history have too many random variables for me. Hindsight never helped no one etc.
 
2013-07-04 03:04:40 AM
Thank God the officer used a foreign made weapon. Can you imagine if that thing was American? Jammedville...
 
2013-07-04 04:30:44 AM

Com-un-sense: Here's the thing a lot of vigilante wannabes seem to miss, due to cognitive dissonance or otherwise: the argument against carry (concealed or otherwise) is that the vast majority of those carrying aren't trained in how to react to a situation where there is an active threat, and it's far more likely their kids or grandkids will find the gun and blow their own heads off than the gun owner successfully defending him/herself or others. There are other arguments as well, including the reality that if more people are carrying guns, the likelihood of an armed confrontation between two pissed off/drunk or dumb people goes ever higher. I could go on, but this is Fark, so why bother?


Sorry, but I know more about this than you do. Gun owner for 10 years, Soldier for 8, cop for 5, Masters in Psychology, firearms instructor in my MP unit, my department, and certified NRA instructor for the purpose of training Concealed Pistol License holders.

Your assertions are unfounded and spoken from ignorance. Those of us who actually do this kind of thing day in and day out can see you're just plain wrong.
 
2013-07-04 04:37:38 AM

Bokononist: taurusowner: museamused: Yeah, I'm not a big cop fan but if I'm literally talking about my child's life I want someone who shoots their gun a LOT and is trained in pressure situations handling this rather than some guy who thinks he's Charlie Bronson because he's seen a lot of movies and owns a gun.

...
The myth that police are expert shots just because their job issues them a gun is as false as some office drone being a computer whiz because they were given a desk with a computer.


That's still not really applicable in this situation though. The cop didn't need to be a marksman in here, just experienced and conditioned.


You're right. I was responding to a statement along th lines of "this is why I'm glad it was a cop and not some Charles Bronson wannabe because cops are so much better trained."

That's a fallacy I've had to rectify a number of time and it bugs me every time I hear it. Cops are not better trained. Most cops are lousy shots due to the fact that just because carrying a gun is part of their job, doesn't mean they actually put the effort in to learn to use it just as office workers who are forced to use computers are often know the least about said computers. Tool being part of your job =/= proficiency with said tool. People just assume cops are better with guns than regular civilians. On average, we're not. Almost every time I've seen an officer shoot side by side with a civilian firearms hobbyist, the civilian has been safe, more accurate, and smoother.

So no, it doesn't have much to do with this particular situation. But a Farker brought up the "cops are better with guns, so only cops should have guns" myth, and as a cop and firearms instructor, I felt the need to correct that fallacy.
 
2013-07-04 04:53:09 AM
Herb! I swear to God I wasn't anywhere near aisle 5!


/obscure?
 
2013-07-04 06:45:46 AM
Let me set the story straight for everyone: The guy was schizo, and had a freak out. He told the cops the illuminati were after him and abunch of other nonsensical stuff.

The video of the shooting is available on liveleak. They gave the guy a chair to sit in so he wouldn't drop the child onto the knife, then talked to him for a minute and when he was distracted for a split second, the cop calmly stood up, took a step toward him drew his weapon and shot him in the head.... it was actually amazingly calm, he put the guy down like a dog.

Was some excellent police work.
 
2013-07-04 07:54:22 AM
I bet the cop who had to shoot the guy didn't enjoy it. Wish I could say the same for a lot of farkers commenting here.
 
2013-07-04 08:10:23 AM
CTRL-F , no one?  must be really obscure
"Maybe...you won't even...twitch" Bang!
 
2013-07-04 09:33:47 AM

taurusowner: Com-un-sense: Here's the thing a lot of vigilante wannabes seem to miss, due to cognitive dissonance or otherwise: the argument against carry (concealed or otherwise) is that the vast majority of those carrying aren't trained in how to react to a situation where there is an active threat, and it's far more likely their kids or grandkids will find the gun and blow their own heads off than the gun owner successfully defending him/herself or others. There are other arguments as well, including the reality that if more people are carrying guns, the likelihood of an armed confrontation between two pissed off/drunk or dumb people goes ever higher. I could go on, but this is Fark, so why bother?

Sorry, but I know more about this than you do. Gun owner for 10 years, Soldier for 8, cop for 5, Masters in Psychology, firearms instructor in my MP unit, my department, and certified NRA instructor for the purpose of training Concealed Pistol License holders.

Your assertions are unfounded and spoken from ignorance. Those of us who actually do this kind of thing day in and day out can see you're just plain wrong.


Um, no, your "qualifications" do not make your argument more valid, especially when there are numbers proving you are wrong. Merely owning a  gun makes you 4.5 times more likely to be shot. And that says nothing of the risk to others, especially kids, of dying in a firearms accident. I'm a former gun owner who had the sense to get rid of his firearm before I had a child because numbers don't lie.
 
2013-07-04 09:35:57 AM
taurusowner:
Your assertions are unfounded and spoken from ignorance. Those of us who actually do this kind of thing day in and day out can see you're just plain wrong.

I'd also like to point out that police are, by and large, highly in favor of gun control. Because those who "do this kind of thing every day" see the dangers up close.
 
2013-07-04 09:49:55 AM

Fista-Phobia: Com-un-sense: Fista-Phobia: What if he missed?

Um, it's pretty hard to miss from two inches. The surveillance video cuts out just before the shot. He put his gun right to the guy's temple. He couldn't miss.

Sorry. What if he slipped on the floor while making his move? I don't know. These great moments in firearm history have too many random variables for me. Hindsight never helped no one etc.


You're right.  Police should be banned from using guns.

Plus, he could have rolled an "one" on his attack roll, which is an automatic critical failure.
 
2013-07-04 11:05:32 AM

Com-un-sense: Merely owning a  gun makes you 4.5 times more likely to be shot.


That, or living in an area and/or having an occupation where you are likely to get shot makes you more likely to own a gun.
Circular logic never won any arguments around here.

/Oh, and you do know they make both gun safes and child locks for those things now, right?
//You getting rid of guns was probably a good idea though, being stupid enough to leave them out and loaded and all.
 
2013-07-04 11:27:41 AM
if you haven't seen it... SFW version

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f4_1372548151">http://www.liveleak.c om/view?i=6f4_1372548151
 
2013-07-04 11:50:37 AM

qualtrough: I bet the cop who had to shoot the guy didn't enjoy it. Wish I could say the same for a lot of farkers commenting here.


What if he did? Would that make him a bad person? To enjoy ushering a dangerous, beyond hope crazy person off the world while simultaneously saving a child? Maybe this was his dream. Maybe as soon as he got back to the station, away from the media, it was high-fives all around. What if he even cracked a smile! Boy, it's a good thing someone out there like you is throwing out blind judgements on people they don't know in the slightest just so they can deny the fact that blood and violence are a cornerstone of our society. Gotta feel better about YOURSELF at all costs, right?
 
2013-07-04 11:56:12 AM

genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....


... and because the dipshiat had no rapor with the nutjob, ended up killing the kid, so yeah tragedy.  A precision shot, while hopped up on adrenaline is one I'm not sure I'd be able to make with a kid in the way - and I was a biathlete. Cop had it under control. Cop did his job. Cop saves kid. Ta-dah.
 
2013-07-04 12:01:00 PM

llachlan: genner: museamused: Fortunately there weren't any dipshiats with concealed carry permits who tried to intervene.

Yeah it would have been a tragedy if someone who wasn't a cop shot him.....

... and because the dipshiat had no rapor with the nutjob, ended up killing the kid, so yeah tragedy.  A precision shot, while hopped up on adrenaline is one I'm not sure I'd be able to make with a kid in the way - and I was a biathlete. Cop had it under control. Cop did his job. Cop saves kid. Ta-dah.


It's almost like everything worked out in the end.
 
2013-07-04 01:10:27 PM
SOMEONE say guns are bad.
PLEASE.
 
2013-07-04 01:34:29 PM

aesirx: uhm, that's true for many people.


images.wikia.com

puddleonfire: SOMEONE say guns are bad.
PLEASE.


Someone did.
 
2013-07-04 07:39:42 PM
JungleBoogie: Liveleak links to the actual videos.

That's gun control.

Sometimes the cops f•ck up epically. Other times, they do really, really good work.

SuperNinjaToad: this is actually a paradox. What makes cops giant douches in many ways also make them do 'great work' every once in a while. This is actually a classic example. Someone who is not prone to violence with a hint of psychopathic tendencies and A type personality is not going to simply walk up to a total stranger and point blank shoot him dead in the face even if said stranger is holding a hostage.


I read this quote a long time ago: "There is a bit of the dragon in the dragonslayer."
 
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