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(Denver Post)   The first decade of the new millennium showed the most global warming EVAR. Nothing extreme here, move along citizens   (denverpost.com) divider line 352
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2013-07-03 12:23:52 PM
And there is global warming on Mars too. Everybody panic!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming. ht ml
 
2013-07-03 12:31:46 PM

EnviroDude: And there is global warming on Mars too. Everybody panic!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming. ht ml


This guy?
http://iceagenow.info/2012/06/astrophysicist-forecasts-19th-ice-age- 75 00-years/

Look, he's given us a definite prediction for NEXT YEAR: "which, he says, will result in a temperature drop in approximately 2014. "

Let's see how that goes.
 
2013-07-03 12:35:52 PM
www.aboutlawsuits.com
 
2013-07-03 12:36:34 PM
"most global warming EVAR. "

"But going back to 1880"

The concept of time baffles most people.  Just like the reports of the hottest temperatures in Death Valley.  Oh really, then tell me the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD.  You can't... can you?  Recorded historical temperatures are so infinitesimally small.

I'm not denying global temperature rising, but I hate the science that some people use.
 
2013-07-03 12:38:06 PM
The only solution is cap and trade. Not just cap.

Because someone has to make money. Ok?
 
2013-07-03 12:50:31 PM
But... but during Obama's environment speech the other day Fox News told me that the rate of global warming was slowing. You mean Fox News might have lied to me?
 
2013-07-03 12:53:44 PM

netizencain: "most global warming EVAR. "

"But going back to 1880"

The concept of time baffles most people.  Just like the reports of the hottest temperatures in Death Valley.  Oh really, then tell me the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD.  You can't... can you?  Recorded historical temperatures are so infinitesimally small.

I'm not denying global temperature rising, but I hate the science that some people use.


It maxed out at 34.7 degrees that day.

Celsius, of course.
 
2013-07-03 12:55:59 PM
bradleydibble.authorsxpress.com
 
2013-07-03 12:56:23 PM
No its not.  Uh-uh.
 
2013-07-03 12:57:35 PM

What it's like to be in Las Vegas today:


i44.tinypic.com

 
2013-07-03 12:57:56 PM

netizencain: "most global warming EVAR. "

"But going back to 1880"

The concept of time baffles most people.  Just like the reports of the hottest temperatures in Death Valley.  Oh really, then tell me the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD.  You can't... can you?  Recorded historical temperatures are so infinitesimally small.

I'm not denying global temperature rising, but I hate the science that some people use.


I agree brother 100%.

I'll look forward to us both now being called luddite religious fanatic retards.
 
2013-07-03 12:58:22 PM
You can't fool me. There were secret e-mails.
 
2013-07-03 12:58:29 PM
So long and thanks for all the a few of the one fish and an ocean full of inedible jellies.
 
2013-07-03 12:58:48 PM
In b4 context-free graph wars.
 
2013-07-03 12:58:55 PM

netizencain: "most global warming EVAR. "

"But going back to 1880"

The concept of time baffles most people.  Just like the reports of the hottest temperatures in Death Valley.  Oh really, then tell me the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD.  You can't... can you?  Recorded historical temperatures are so infinitesimally small.

I'm not denying global temperature rising, but I hate the science that some people use.


We only have reliable data so far in the past you know. No one was manning weather stations in 921 AD.

The data we DO have is pretty evident though. I'm still not sure why certain people (i.e., right-wing Republicans) refuse to accept what is common sense, really. If you add a bunch of CO2 to the atmosphere, what do you THINK will happen? It's like they refuse to accept basic physics or something because it is a liberal plot to destroy the economy, or something.
 
2013-07-03 12:59:23 PM
It really sucks that we're in a warming trend. I moved out of Phoenix to get away from the farking heat, not to have it follow me. Salt Lake was supposed to be this nice, cooler version where it got to triple digits about 5 times a year, and by triple digits, I mean maybe 102...

Now it's one month into summer, and instead of 5 total days, we've gotten 7 in a row and aren't even close to the hot season.

Well, at least I don't have to live through a miserable, muggy Phoenix monsoon season where it will be 113 and 50% humidity, but no rain will actually fall in the city. As for the 118 temps, anything above 112 feels the same anyway: Too Farking Hot.
 
2013-07-03 01:01:42 PM
Clever...for 15 years the rate of warming has been > 0, BUT INFINITESIMAL.

If u dont see the stastical trick u r a fool. I mean, clearlyyy the solution is 100% UN Fascism.
 
2013-07-03 01:02:25 PM
Don't worry, I've learned on Facebook that global warming is [slowing down/cycles/sun spots/a fraud/good for the economy/not even happening at all].
 
2013-07-03 01:02:41 PM
But don't you see if we decide to set 1997/1998 as the baseline it suddenly proves there is no global warming? I've been assured that it does.
 
2013-07-03 01:03:14 PM

netizencain: then tell me the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD.  You can't... can you?


Shakes-Rain-Stick say high of very hot, chance of very high hot.
 
2013-07-03 01:06:24 PM

Mikey1969: As for the 118 temps, anything above 112 feels the same anyway: Too Farking Hot.


I feel the same way about anything above 85.
 
2013-07-03 01:10:52 PM

TheSwissNavy: Clever...for 15 years the rate of warming has been > 0, BUT INFINITESIMAL.

If u dont see the stastical trick u r a fool. I mean, clearlyyy the solution is 100% UN Fascism.


.5 degree C change is not infinitesimal on a global scale particularly if the trend continues...
 
2013-07-03 01:11:06 PM

netizencain: "most global warming EVAR. "

"But going back to 1880"

The concept of time baffles most people.  Just like the reports of the hottest temperatures in Death Valley.  Oh really, then tell me the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD.  You can't... can you?  Recorded historical temperatures are so infinitesimally small.

I'm not denying global temperature rising, but I hate the science that some people use.


I absolutely can't tell you the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD. But I can tell you why it doesn't matter. In terms of climate data, the temperature of individual days do not matter. What is important is the average temperature over a long period of time. We can reconstruct that from various sources to give us an accurate view of the climate over a very long period of time, along with other important and related data like the level of CO2 in the atmosphere. These methods are accurate, they just don't have a day by day resolution.

So why we talk about the day by day stuff like the record high temperatures in Death Valley, or Australia's heat wave isn't because it proves global warming, it's because it is first hand and real time results that are consistent with global warming.
 
2013-07-03 01:11:12 PM

Cyrus the Mediocre: netizencain: then tell me the temperature in Death Valley on July 1st, 921 AD.  You can't... can you?

Shakes-Rain-Stick say high of very hot, chance of very high hot.


Or chance of ice age. who knows we can only work from the records we have and that science stuff
 
2013-07-03 01:11:23 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-03 01:11:27 PM
Maybe the earth is warming and maybe it's not, but if it is, it's surely a coincidence that it's happening at the same time that we're pumping a gazillion tons of carbon into the atmosphere.
 
2013-07-03 01:14:35 PM
Ahh, the church of global warming climate change (is that still what we are calling it this week?). And the misguided and narcissistic belief that we can break the planet. The planet will be fine, when she is tired of us she will shake us off like fleas and start over, as she has done before. But go on pushing that junk science, have fun trying to convince people that your data means something!
 
2013-07-03 01:14:46 PM

Grungehamster: But don't you see if we decide to set 1997/1998 as the baseline it suddenly proves there is no global warming? I've been assured that it does.


www.woodfortrees.org
 
2013-07-03 01:15:31 PM

thurstonxhowell: Mikey1969: As for the 118 temps, anything above 112 feels the same anyway: Too Farking Hot.

I feel the same way about anything above 85.


Anything warm enough to get the temp up in the swimming areas is really enough for me, because that's also warm enough that you can get wet even fully clothed(Water fight, something like that), and you don't freeze your ass off... Anything above 95 is above my preferred zone for sure, but I can deal with 100-105 if I have to.
 
2013-07-03 01:16:21 PM

Confabulat: If you add a bunch of CO2 to the atmosphere, what do you THINK will happen? It's like they refuse to accept basic physics or something because it is a liberal plot to destroy the economy, or something.


If you accept the basic physics, not much will happen now.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-03 01:16:52 PM
FTA:

...going back to 1880, the average increase was .062 percent degrees Celsius per decade.
Average temperatures were 0.21 degrees Celsius warmer this past decade than from 1991 to 2000
which were in turn 0.14 degrees Celsius warmer than from 1981 to 1990.


Submitter can't read.
 
2013-07-03 01:17:43 PM

not collecting stamps: Ahh, the church of global warming climate change (is that still what we are calling it this week?). And the misguided and narcissistic belief that we can break the planet. The planet will be fine, when she is tired of us she will shake us off like fleas and start over, as she has done before. But go on pushing that junk science, have fun trying to convince people that your data means something!


0/10. You blew the attempt with the last phrase.
 
2013-07-03 01:19:27 PM
Detailed measurements of the Earth show that its shape is irregular, often related to the shape of a potato.  The Potato Earth.  Global warming is a good thing, here.  Because everyone loves a baked potato.  Keep that heat coming, we need to be able to fry up some bacon for this awesome incoming meal.  mmmmm baked potato....
 
2013-07-03 01:19:42 PM

not collecting stamps: Ahh, the church of global warming climate change (is that still what we are calling it this week?). And the misguided and narcissistic belief that we can break the planet. The planet will be fine, when she is tired of us she will shake us off like fleas and start over, as she has done before. But go on pushing that junk science, have fun trying to convince people that your data means something!


I think you're being purposely obtuse.  By 'break the planet' people mean 'make the planet unihabitable for animal and plant life', not that the planet itself will crumble.  No one really gives a shiat what happens to this rock if all of us are dead.
 
2013-07-03 01:19:46 PM

DesertDemonWY: Grungehamster: But don't you see if we decide to set 1997/1998 as the baseline it suddenly proves there is no global warming? I've been assured that it does.

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]


forthesakeofdebate.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-03 01:19:54 PM

Grungehamster: But don't you see if we decide to set 1997/1998 as the baseline it suddenly proves there is no global warming? I've been assured that it does.


It doesn't prove anything, but a good scientist should take into account all information, not just those data points that support his original hypothesis.   Why temperatures have leveled off after 1997/98 despite the increase in CO2 emissions is a valid question, that a lot of scientists aparently want to ignore.  The article, by picking picking comparisons that would mask this phenomenon seems to skirt this issue, so to me, it is more a poltical piece than genuine science.
 
2013-07-03 01:20:44 PM

not collecting stamps: Ahh, the church of global warming climate change (is that still what we are calling it this week?). And the misguided and narcissistic belief that we can break the planet. The planet will be fine, when she is tired of us she will shake us off like fleas and start over, as she has done before. But go on pushing that junk science, have fun trying to convince people that your data means something!


Pipe down there, spanky. There's grown-up talking here.
 
2013-07-03 01:21:19 PM
If all of the really bad stuff won't happen till I am dead, why should I care now?

/sarcasm
 
2013-07-03 01:23:06 PM

cubic_spleen: Pipe down there, spanky. There's grown-up talking here.


Is he new or have I not been paying attention?
 
2013-07-03 01:24:13 PM
 
2013-07-03 01:24:38 PM

TheSwissNavy: Clever...for 15 years the rate of warming has been > 0, BUT INFINITESIMAL.

If u dont see the stastical trick u r a fool. I mean, clearlyyy the solution is 100% UN Fascism.


It's funny. Those of us who get our science from scientists are suggesting that people try and conserve, reduce pollution, reduce dependance on middle east oil, participate in the profitable green energy industry, try to shift our energy production to greener sources, etc. Stuff like that.

But people who get their science from politicians claim the ridiculous strawman that you have above. We for some reason want to give the UN world domination. It is idiotic ... but you puppets endlessly parrot it.

It is like the other lie that gets parroted - that we want to introduce "economy destroying" measures. Who believes this drivel? Who actually wants to destroy their own economy and what government would actually implement measures like this?

And then there's the Big Bad UN. Most Fark threads the UN is portrayed as a completely ineffective organization that can only send "strongly worded letters". But in AGW threads they are evil masterminds bent on WORLD DOMINATION. Muh huh ha ha ha ha.

Sad.
 
2013-07-03 01:25:12 PM

WelldeadLink: Confabulat: If you add a bunch of CO2 to the atmosphere, what do you THINK will happen? It's like they refuse to accept basic physics or something because it is a liberal plot to destroy the economy, or something.

If you accept the basic physics, not much will happen now.
[i.imgur.com image 553x349]


Based on the "work" of Willis Eschenbach.

Willis Eschenbach, blogger with a certificate in massage and a B.A. in Psychology. Has worked recently as an Accounts/IT Senior Manager with South Pacific Oil. Has produced no peer-reviewed papers on climate science according to the criteria set by Skeptical Science.

http://denierlist.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/willis-eschenbach/
 
2013-07-03 01:25:34 PM
Main page? Wasn't it decided that since we as a country allow retards to vote, global warming threads had to be on the politics page so the Teatards could scream NUH UH! a lot?

/It's already too late. If the oil and coal companies simply sell their current inventory (including the stuff they own but is still in the ground), there is no model that doesn't predict a minimum 2 degree C increase in temperature, most models 5 degrees. That's catastrophic on this sort of time scale.
 
2013-07-03 01:25:44 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Why temperatures have leveled off after 1997/98 despite the increase in CO2 emissions is a valid question, that a lot of scientists aparently want to ignore.


Oh yeah? It's interesting that you would know that. You've been closely following climate science journals, then? Checking on the actual research still in progress?

...or did you just parrot that from someone who told you it was true?
 
2013-07-03 01:26:05 PM
Is that the story this week?  So hard to keep up.
 
2013-07-03 01:26:46 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Main page? Wasn't it decided that since we as a country allow retards to vote, global warming threads had to be on the politics page so the Teatards could scream NUH UH! a lot?

/It's already too late. If the oil and coal companies simply sell their current inventory (including the stuff they own but is still in the ground), there is no model that doesn't predict a minimum 2 degree C increase in temperature, most models 5 degrees. That's catastrophic on this sort of time scale.


Serious question: Why? Wont we adapt?
 
2013-07-03 01:27:15 PM

Confabulat: The data we DO have is pretty evident though. I'm still not sure why certain people (i.e., right-wing Republicans) refuse to accept what is common sense, really. If you add a bunch of CO2 to the atmosphere, what do you THINK will happen? It's like they refuse to accept basic physics or something because it is a liberal plot to destroy the economy, or something.


While I say we need to take way better care of this planet than we do, I just have to argue here. Data can be so misleading. Can you say, without a doubt in your mind, that perhaps some kind of climate change has NEVER happened in the past? No. We've had ice ages, world-altering meteor strikes, etc, etc. Can you verify with only a couple 100 years of data that THIS CHANGE HAPPENING NOW is a direct correlation of CO2 in the atmosphere? You can't because no one was around before and there was no data to prove or disprove it. Who's to say it's not just time for the Earth to warm up for a bit?
img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-07-03 01:27:33 PM

not collecting stamps: Ahh, the church of global warming climate change (is that still what we are calling it this week?). And the misguided and narcissistic belief that we can break the planet. The planet will be fine, when she is tired of us she will shake us off like fleas and start over, as she has done before. But go on pushing that junk science, have fun trying to convince people that your data means something!


Well, I'm sure the planet will be happy that YOU go extinct.
 
2013-07-03 01:28:17 PM

jst3p: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Main page? Wasn't it decided that since we as a country allow retards to vote, global warming threads had to be on the politics page so the Teatards could scream NUH UH! a lot?

/It's already too late. If the oil and coal companies simply sell their current inventory (including the stuff they own but is still in the ground), there is no model that doesn't predict a minimum 2 degree C increase in temperature, most models 5 degrees. That's catastrophic on this sort of time scale.

Serious question: Why? Wont we adapt?


To "adapt", in this case, means many people die.
 
2013-07-03 01:28:35 PM
temperature != climate
 
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