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2013-07-03 03:52:16 PM  

Jake Steed: Way to go Huessein..


Where are all the libtards biatching about how everyone hates us because of our president as they did when Bush was President??

I applaud the Egyptian citizins and their resolve against Islamists, now if only Americans showed the same resolve to get our Islamist out of the Whitehouse.

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So Obama is to blame for another country's dissatisfaction with its democratically elected leader? And he's also responsible for the continued support of the military dictator that the military used to support? Kinda of like he was an out of control monster for unilaterally going into Libya, but then scandalously leaving our diplomats to die, and simultaneously not sending in nuclear bombs to deal with Iran, Syria and North Korea?

Obama truly is the omni-boogeyman.

/I know, they are trollin', trollin', trollin'...
 
2013-07-03 03:52:42 PM  
Can't believe no one posted this yet...
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2013-07-03 03:52:42 PM  

USCLaw2010: From the Telegraph: The now ex-President Morsi has apparently been moved to an undisclosed location.

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/Watch your six broski


Tim Curry - Time Lord.

// Communism WAS just a red herring!
 
2013-07-03 03:53:27 PM  

netweavr: Sounds like the Military is trying to make this bloodless. They've simply stated Morsi is no longer in power without doing anything to him.

This only works if the treasury, police, and media join them. Morsi will simply have no one follow his orders.


And I'm guessing the Muslim Brotherhood will eventually be made persona non grata in Egypt.
 
2013-07-03 03:54:21 PM  

Rwa2play: netweavr: Sounds like the Military is trying to make this bloodless. They've simply stated Morsi is no longer in power without doing anything to him.

This only works if the treasury, police, and media join them. Morsi will simply have no one follow his orders.

And I'm guessing the Muslim Brotherhood will eventually be made persona non grata in Egypt.


The MB are complaining that the military has already shut down their media stations... so yeah.
 
2013-07-03 03:54:28 PM  

traylor: For those who have missed it...

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Sweet, torrential rain & big surf!
 
2013-07-03 03:54:34 PM  
I'm both saddened and proud of the fact that I learned more about the background of this thing from this thread than from any major media outlet in the past 6 months.

Kudos, Farkers!
 
2013-07-03 03:54:55 PM  

netweavr: Sounds like the Military is trying to make this bloodless. They've simply stated Morsi is no longer in power without doing anything to him.

This only works if the treasury, police, and media join them. Morsi will simply have no one follow his orders.


To be fair, the military has all the guns.
Going against their benevolence is a risky proposition and all you'd win is the thanks of the brotherhood.

/This could still end up as a military dictatorship but, at this point, the military has been the more reasonable group of the lot.
 
2013-07-03 03:55:20 PM  

netweavr: If Obama went full Native Son, he'd be removed in the same way


...with our citizenry the way it is? The president could admit to wanting to drop a nuke on NYC, and most Americans would go "Eh, he's the President. What can you do?"
 
2013-07-03 03:55:20 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: and Natasha: Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy

At least CNN isn't calling him Ralph or something.

CNN Top Story: Morrisey Performs In Egypt Amidst Concerns About Germaneness


Editorial: "In the age of Ke¢ha, is mopey music uncool?"

/the cent-sign was originally a typo
//but I liked it
///so I left it.
 
2013-07-03 03:55:46 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Kumana Wanalaia: When did that happen in the US?

Unilateral Drone attacks and other acts of war, for one.
Unconstitutional NSA wholesale "fishing trips" for another.
Not enforcing Federal Laws that go against thier political interests, for another.

And those are only the ones I can come up with off the top of my head...


Do you have links for those assertions? They sound like talking points.
 
2013-07-03 03:56:45 PM  

netweavr: Rwa2play: netweavr: Sounds like the Military is trying to make this bloodless. They've simply stated Morsi is no longer in power without doing anything to him.

This only works if the treasury, police, and media join them. Morsi will simply have no one follow his orders.

And I'm guessing the Muslim Brotherhood will eventually be made persona non grata in Egypt.

The MB are complaining that the military has already shut down their media stations... so yeah.


Not surprising; I'm guessing the other ME nations will look at the MB with a more jaundiced eye from now on.  Especially if a local chapter of MB tries to make nice with the local military.
 
2013-07-03 03:57:16 PM  
There was a good Planet Money podcast on Egypt's military. They're not just the military, they also control a lot of the economy. They own those resort hotels that no one wants to visit now.
 
2013-07-03 03:58:01 PM  

HighOnCraic:   I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible.

 
2013-07-03 03:58:29 PM  

way south: netweavr: Sounds like the Military is trying to make this bloodless. They've simply stated Morsi is no longer in power without doing anything to him.

This only works if the treasury, police, and media join them. Morsi will simply have no one follow his orders.

To be fair, the military has all the guns.
Going against their benevolence is a risky proposition and all you'd win is the thanks of the brotherhood.

/This could still end up as a military dictatorship but, at this point, the military has been the more reasonable group of the lot.


Nah, doubt it.  Egypt's military are pretty much "keepers of the faith" with regards to Egypt's identity; as soon as everything calms down and a legitimate civilian government is established, they'll fall back into their default position.
 
2013-07-03 04:01:33 PM  

JerseyTim: The fireworks remind me of the Ewoks celebrating the Battle of Endor.


Ewoks didn't have "lasers".
 
2013-07-03 04:02:07 PM  

netweavr: Rwa2play: netweavr: Sounds like the Military is trying to make this bloodless. They've simply stated Morsi is no longer in power without doing anything to him.

This only works if the treasury, police, and media join them. Morsi will simply have no one follow his orders.

And I'm guessing the Muslim Brotherhood will eventually be made persona non grata in Egypt.

The MB are complaining that the military has already shut down their media stations... so yeah.


I read that as MIB at first.
 
2013-07-03 04:02:26 PM  
I wonder how much of their economy depended on tourism?
 
2013-07-03 04:03:33 PM  

AlanSmithee: HighOnCraic:   I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible.


I didn't even see that one!
 
2013-07-03 04:03:38 PM  

whcrow: JerseyTim: The fireworks remind me of the Ewoks celebrating the Battle of Endor.

Ewoks didn't have "lasers".


No, they used type IV disruptors, everyone knows that.
 
2013-07-03 04:04:01 PM  
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2013-07-03 04:05:42 PM  

optikeye: I wonder how much of their economy depended on tourism?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Egypt
 
2013-07-03 04:07:08 PM  
Frankly, I've been baffled every since back when the old Egyptian Supreme Court ruled that the process of writing the new constitution was unconstitutional according to the old constitution.  I thought Egyptians showed remarkable restraint in not dragging the judges out into the desert and shooting them until nothing bigger than a falafel was left intact.
 
2013-07-03 04:07:34 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.



The same people have *effectively* been in charge in Egypt since Mubarak was in power.

But Mubarak was past his expiration date, and now they're just trying out different brands of makeup on the same old face.

You'll know that REAL change is taking place when (and if) Egypt stops cooperating with Israel's siege on Gaza, and Israel starts telling the US to bomb Cairo.
 
2013-07-03 04:10:02 PM  

Somacandra: runin800m: If the president had just declared that he had amended the constitution so that the supreme court could no longer review his actions and granted himself vast new authority rendering the both other branches of government effectively powerless, then we might not be so hasty to call military intervention a coup d'etat.

If the SCOTUS was entirely appointed by the Republican Party and was trying to dissolve Congress, you might definitely expect the Executive to engage it in a Constitutional showdown. Morsi didn't do this just out of the blue--all this took place in the context of a crisis between the old Judiciary and the brand new Parliament and Presdency.


A new president doesn't just get to unilaterally change the constitution because he doesn't like that the justices on the SC were appointed by his predecessor and aren't cooperating with him. Would it be a coup for the military to step in and force Obama out of office after he declared he had changed the constitution so that the supreme court could no longer review his decisions and granted himself sweeping new authority since Republicans put the majority on the court? I certainly hope that they would step in under a situation like that.
 
2013-07-03 04:10:28 PM  

Amos Quito: You'll know that REAL change is taking place when (and if) Egypt stops cooperating with Israel's siege on Gaza, and Israel starts telling the US to bomb Cairo.


Won't ever happen. Egypt and Israel love their $3 billion in cash and prizes for not blowing each other straight to hell too much to start squabbling, sparing some  huge development beyond the purview of either country.
 
2013-07-03 04:12:15 PM  
They should have waited till tomorrow, then to save money every year they could just show American fireworks on tv.
 
2013-07-03 04:12:51 PM  

A Screaming Man with Two-Toned Shoes: I'm both saddened and proud of the fact that I learned more about the background of this thing from this thread than from any major media outlet in the past 6 months.

Kudos, Farkers!


Maybe more people would talk to you if you got ONE-toned shoes like the rest of us.
 
2013-07-03 04:12:59 PM  

Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy


Qaddafi
Gadhafi
Gaddafi
Qadhafi
Kadafi
Kaddafi
Qaddafi
Khadafy
Al-Gathafi
 
2013-07-03 04:13:11 PM  

runin800m: Would it be a coup for the military to step in and force Obama out of office after he declared he had changed the constitution so that the supreme court could no longer review his decisions and granted himself sweeping new authority since Republicans put the majority on the court?


Yes, as that's the very definition of a coup d'etat. You're conflating denotation with connotation.
 
2013-07-03 04:17:26 PM  

that bosnian sniper: Amos Quito: You'll know that REAL change is taking place when (and if) Egypt stops cooperating with Israel's siege on Gaza, and Israel starts telling the US to bomb Cairo.

Won't ever happen. Egypt and Israel love their $3 billion in cash and prizes for not blowing each other straight to hell too much to start squabbling, sparing some  huge development beyond the purview of either country.



Which was kind of my point: The raging spoiled brat we call Israel will get its money in any case.

Egypt's money, OTOH, is and always has been the "carrot" portion of the "carrot and stick" used to convince them to play nice with Israel, and to allow them to continue to oppress the Palestinians unmolested.

Your tax dollars go to both Egypt AND Israel so that the latter can be unopposed dickheads.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:39 PM  

IlGreven: netweavr: If Obama went full Native Son, he'd be removed in the same way

...with our citizenry the way it is? The president could admit to wanting to drop a nuke on NYC, and most Americans would go "Eh, he's the President. What can you do?"


And half the country would claim it was only partisan racists that were making a big deal out if it. We're toast.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:45 PM  
Amos Quito

I'm still convinced your Tatsuma's alternate dimension self.  You're both that far out there on the subject of Israel, just on opposite sides.
 
2013-07-03 04:20:48 PM  

that bosnian sniper: runin800m: Would it be a coup for the military to step in and force Obama out of office after he declared he had changed the constitution so that the supreme court could no longer review his decisions and granted himself sweeping new authority since Republicans put the majority on the court?

Yes, as that's the very definition of a coup d'etat. You're conflating denotation with connotation.


You're conflabulating conflabulating with conflating.
/Oh shut up, tuna!
 
2013-07-03 04:21:26 PM  
Bah, screwed up "you're".  Oh well, fail me.
 
2013-07-03 04:23:44 PM  
The thing is, not all coups are bad.
 
2013-07-03 04:24:40 PM  

Cato: IlGreven: netweavr: If Obama went full Native Son, he'd be removed in the same way

...with our citizenry the way it is? The president could admit to wanting to drop a nuke on NYC, and most Americans would go "Eh, he's the President. What can you do?"

And half the country would claim it was only partisan racists that were making a big deal out if it. We're toast.


More like the center and left would be outraged, the right would try to make it all about Obama because they like the idea of nuking NYC and just don't want to eat shiat for it, and when this was pointed out the center and left would all be accused of being in the can for President Fart.
 
2013-07-03 04:32:34 PM  
Anyway, as for all the "but, but democracy" stuff, that's irrelevant and I wish Americans could get that through their thick heads. The Nazis were democratically, too. The important thing isn't democracy, it's liberty - democracy is only important in as much as it fosters and protects liberty.

Democracy is the best system around for giving the people what they want, but it doesn't insure they want the right things. If they want liberty, they will get it. If they want a dictator that will suspend freedoms and oppress a minority, that's what they'll get. If they want violence and terror (like when we gave the Palestinians the vote), they'll get that.

Democracy is not an unadulterated good. It can often be a source of great evil. So stop with the "democracy!" thing and realize Morsi was an oppressive dictator, however he got power, and needed to go.
 
2013-07-03 04:34:29 PM  

Tommy Moo: What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.


Not Obamadangaligone, the other one.
 
2013-07-03 04:34:49 PM  
Why do threads like this bring out the derpiest right-wing trolls Fark has to offer?
 
2013-07-03 04:36:23 PM  

Cato: The Nazis were democratically, too


If you mean "democratically elected," no the fark they weren't.

Hitler was appointed Chancellor, and he expelled the Communist Party from the government so that the Nazis would then have a a majority.

Stupid revisionist talking point is stupid.
 
2013-07-03 04:37:32 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The problem with the legitimacy issue and comparing it to a stable democracy is that Morsi was actively trying to undermine the process that put him in office.  He rewrote the constitution and was well on the way to making himself President-for-life.   That's not how democracy works, the majority doesn't get to run roughshod over the minority.


Damn straight.  Only corporations get to run roughshod - over everybody.
 
2013-07-03 04:38:35 PM  

Cato: Anyway, as for all the "but, but democracy" stuff, that's irrelevant and I wish Americans could get that through their thick heads. The Nazis were democratically, too. The important thing isn't democracy, it's liberty - democracy is only important in as much as it fosters and protects liberty.

Democracy is the best system around for giving the people what they want, but it doesn't insure they want the right things. If they want liberty, they will get it. If they want a dictator that will suspend freedoms and oppress a minority, that's what they'll get. If they want violence and terror (like when we gave the Palestinians the vote), they'll get that.

Democracy is not an unadulterated good. It can often be a source of great evil. So stop with the "democracy!" thing and realize Morsi was an oppressive dictator, however he got power, and needed to go.


I love how you use the word freedom as if it were plural.
 
2013-07-03 04:39:44 PM  

Gonz: bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.

The US declared independence from England in 1776. George Washington became President in 1789. In between, we had the Continental Congress, the Articles of Confederation, and essentially 13 little nations with a common coin and army.

These things don't always work flawlessly the first time. Give the Egyptians some time, and be thankful that their military seems to be big on the Rule of Law.


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2013-07-03 04:40:38 PM  

TheHubby: Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy

I was going to say something... CNN has been spelling it that way for the past few days, I submitted it as an error and received this reply:

Greetings,

Thank you for contacting CNN. We appreciate your input regarding our coverage. According to the Foreign Ministry, Mohamed Morsy is the preferred spelling of Egypt's first democratically elected president. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Sincerely,CNN.com

So apparently CNN is saying that every other media outlet in the world is spelling it wrong.


His name is  محمد محمد مرسى عيسى العياط . All of those different spellings are different ways of transliterating Arabic letters. Since there is no formal and universal method for doing that all of those spellings are acceptable.
 
2013-07-03 04:41:46 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Oh no, Morsi can't just fark the people of Egypt consequence-free because he happened to win an election. It's so awful. Elections are consent to anything the elected person chooses to do and no one should ever object because reasons.

Do people really believe this shiat?


Apparently, Shrub, Obama and their staffs did/do.
 
2013-07-03 04:43:41 PM  

MalvolioMandarin: Cato: Anyway, as for all the "but, but democracy" stuff, that's irrelevant and I wish Americans could get that through their thick heads. The Nazis were democratically, too. The important thing isn't democracy, it's liberty - democracy is only important in as much as it fosters and protects liberty.

Democracy is the best system around for giving the people what they want, but it doesn't insure they want the right things. If they want liberty, they will get it. If they want a dictator that will suspend freedoms and oppress a minority, that's what they'll get. If they want violence and terror (like when we gave the Palestinians the vote), they'll get that.

Democracy is not an unadulterated good. It can often be a source of great evil. So stop with the "democracy!" thing and realize Morsi was an oppressive dictator, however he got power, and needed to go.

I love how you use the word freedom as if it were plural.


like socialisms.
 
2013-07-03 04:52:22 PM  
Ambitwistor, tell him that Khaddafi is spelled with an H and two D's and isn't a seven-letter word for anything.
 
2013-07-03 04:55:54 PM  

MalvolioMandarin: Cato: Anyway, as for all the "but, but democracy" stuff, that's irrelevant and I wish Americans could get that through their thick heads. The Nazis were democratically, too. The important thing isn't democracy, it's liberty - democracy is only important in as much as it fosters and protects liberty.

Democracy is the best system around for giving the people what they want, but it doesn't insure they want the right things. If they want liberty, they will get it. If they want a dictator that will suspend freedoms and oppress a minority, that's what they'll get. If they want violence and terror (like when we gave the Palestinians the vote), they'll get that.

Democracy is not an unadulterated good. It can often be a source of great evil. So stop with the "democracy!" thing and realize Morsi was an oppressive dictator, however he got power, and needed to go.

I love how you use the word freedom as if it were plural.


En, considering I was typing on my phone with my 10 year-old yelling in my ear, I think I did pretty well.
 
2013-07-03 05:02:14 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So we're at Serious Pie one night and this guy at a table in the back gets up and goes to leave.  He brushes my wife's arm in passing, causing her to look up.  She gets this googley-eyed look on her face and says "OMG! I think that was Morrissey!"  Just like I do every time I click on the Entertainment tab I go "Who?" and she's says "MORRISSEY!  From the Smiths! OMG!"  and then she calls over the waiter who confirms that it was him and pretty soon everyone in the damn place including the manager is clustered around our table nattering on about some stupid guy I've never heard of.  We manage our way through the meal and get home.  My wife is determined that I know who he is even though I repeatedly tell her I have no clue.  She proceeds to play every farking song this pretentious asshole ever recorded while prodding me with "oh come on! Even you have to have heard this song!" while randomly selecting things from his catalog.  This went on for hours while she drank wine and sang along to what she was calling music.

So that is why I hate Morsi/Morrissey headlines and am secretly glad that one of them has been arrested.


People who know more than you do are SO STOOPID!!!
 
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