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2013-07-03 04:55:54 PM

MalvolioMandarin: Cato: Anyway, as for all the "but, but democracy" stuff, that's irrelevant and I wish Americans could get that through their thick heads. The Nazis were democratically, too. The important thing isn't democracy, it's liberty - democracy is only important in as much as it fosters and protects liberty.

Democracy is the best system around for giving the people what they want, but it doesn't insure they want the right things. If they want liberty, they will get it. If they want a dictator that will suspend freedoms and oppress a minority, that's what they'll get. If they want violence and terror (like when we gave the Palestinians the vote), they'll get that.

Democracy is not an unadulterated good. It can often be a source of great evil. So stop with the "democracy!" thing and realize Morsi was an oppressive dictator, however he got power, and needed to go.

I love how you use the word freedom as if it were plural.


En, considering I was typing on my phone with my 10 year-old yelling in my ear, I think I did pretty well.
 
2013-07-03 05:02:14 PM

Soup4Bonnie: So we're at Serious Pie one night and this guy at a table in the back gets up and goes to leave.  He brushes my wife's arm in passing, causing her to look up.  She gets this googley-eyed look on her face and says "OMG! I think that was Morrissey!"  Just like I do every time I click on the Entertainment tab I go "Who?" and she's says "MORRISSEY!  From the Smiths! OMG!"  and then she calls over the waiter who confirms that it was him and pretty soon everyone in the damn place including the manager is clustered around our table nattering on about some stupid guy I've never heard of.  We manage our way through the meal and get home.  My wife is determined that I know who he is even though I repeatedly tell her I have no clue.  She proceeds to play every farking song this pretentious asshole ever recorded while prodding me with "oh come on! Even you have to have heard this song!" while randomly selecting things from his catalog.  This went on for hours while she drank wine and sang along to what she was calling music.

So that is why I hate Morsi/Morrissey headlines and am secretly glad that one of them has been arrested.


People who know more than you do are SO STOOPID!!!
 
2013-07-03 05:03:05 PM

CFitzsimmons: Ambitwistor, tell him that Khaddafi is spelled with an H and two D's and isn't a seven-letter word for anything.


farking transliteration, how does it work?
 
2013-07-03 05:05:42 PM
Lifeless, it's a West Wing quote. Lighten up, buddy.
 
2013-07-03 05:23:22 PM

Lifeless: CFitzsimmons: Ambitwistor, tell him that Khaddafi is spelled with an H and two D's and isn't a seven-letter word for anything.

farking transliteration, how does it work?


Lifeless, it's a West Wing quote. Lighten up, buddy.
 
2013-07-03 05:25:40 PM
Egypt's army chief Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi

*giggle* El Sissy.
 
2013-07-03 05:54:04 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The thing is, not all coups are bad.


My dad a had a rebuilt 47 chevy, and you're right...it was sweet.
 
2013-07-03 05:58:57 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-03 06:05:38 PM

MalvolioMandarin: Cato: Anyway, as for all the "but, but democracy" stuff, that's irrelevant and I wish Americans could get that through their thick heads. The Nazis were democratically, too. The important thing isn't democracy, it's liberty - democracy is only important in as much as it fosters and protects liberty.

Democracy is the best system around for giving the people what they want, but it doesn't insure they want the right things. If they want liberty, they will get it. If they want a dictator that will suspend freedoms and oppress a minority, that's what they'll get. If they want violence and terror (like when we gave the Palestinians the vote), they'll get that.

Democracy is not an unadulterated good. It can often be a source of great evil. So stop with the "democracy!" thing and realize Morsi was an oppressive dictator, however he got power, and needed to go.

I love how you use the word freedom as if it were plural.



Just like FDR did?
 
2013-07-03 07:19:45 PM

make me some tea: Good riddance.

Now it remains to be seen whether the military allows a do-over on democracy or whether they decide to keep the power for themselves.


My view of the military there is that they just want the trains running on time, not to run the place.  I'm a little wary of this coup though.  Not that Morsi was anyone to defend.
 
2013-07-03 07:29:48 PM

I_C_Weener: make me some tea: Good riddance.

Now it remains to be seen whether the military allows a do-over on democracy or whether they decide to keep the power for themselves.

My view of the military there is that they just want the trains running on time, not to run the place.  I'm a little wary of this coup though.  Not that Morsi was anyone to defend.


Yeah, that's the story they're selling, we'll see whether it works out that way in practice. I'm cautiously optimistic. They really shouldn't elect politicians until they agree on a framework of fair laws first, though. Otherwise whomever gets in there can run amok, and that's what happened.
 
2013-07-03 08:20:56 PM
not sure about Egypt's chances in a war considering their army chief's name is "el Sissi"

/5th grader snickering
 
2013-07-03 08:45:08 PM

Zafler: Amos Quito

I'm still convinced your Tatsuma's alternate dimension self.  You're both that far out there on the subject of Israel, just on opposite sides.



Tell him (them?) that. I'm sure he'd (they'd?)get a kick.

I would, but he's had me on "ignore" since day 1.
 
2013-07-03 08:49:34 PM
I never thought a Islamist government would work well in Egypt. Egyptian identity is something that far pre-dates Islam by thousands of years, and it looms like a mighty shadow over everything in Egypt, and it is destroying tourism. Unlike many other Arab countries, Egyptians are have deep roots in another heritage that has no roots in the British partitioning. Cheops is not amused.
 
2013-07-03 09:03:14 PM

odinsposse: His name is  محمد محمد مرسى عيسى العياط . All of those different spellings are different ways of transliterating Arabic letters. Since there is no formal and universal method for doing that all of those spellings are acceptable.


His name is Muhammad Muhammad?  [checks Wiki]  Yep, He's Muhammad Muhammad Morsi.  Name so nice they named him twice, I guess.

/Took Arabic in college
//Only remember the alphabet
///Slashies come in threes
 
2013-07-03 10:23:54 PM
ariseatex:

His name is Muhammad Muhammad?

static.flickr.com
 
2013-07-04 12:42:52 AM

Harry_Seldon:  Egyptian identity is something that far pre-dates Islam by thousands of years, and it looms like a mighty shadow over everything in Egypt, and it is destroying tourism.


The only thing damaging tourism in egypt is Islamic extremism. That and hardcore misogyny and a tendency to rip everyone off given half a chance but mostly the fear of being shot at/kidnapped by islamic extremists.
 
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