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2013-07-03 03:24:16 PM

HAMMERTOE: Like it or not, anybody who gets elected in Egypt from now on will get the message: "Yes the Constitution applies to you too.


Its kinda hard to take that seriously when the military has openly SUSPENDED the Constitution.
 
2013-07-03 03:24:38 PM
Idiot, every religious figure is political in nature.
 
2013-07-03 03:25:51 PM

HAMMERTOE: what_now: You elected a bad guy? You get a do over in 4 years.

That's exactly what got the US in the mess it's in now, with the Executive Branch making up the rules as it goes along.


When did that happen in the US?
 
2013-07-03 03:25:54 PM

Somacandra: HAMMERTOE: Like it or not, anybody who gets elected in Egypt from now on will get the message: "Yes the Constitution applies to you too.

Its kinda hard to take that seriously when the military has openly SUSPENDED the Constitution.


The Constitution was invalid the moment Morsi amended it to give himself unlimited power.
 
2013-07-03 03:26:16 PM
Morsi, Morsi, Morsi.


/ you know, sometimes we're not prepared for adversity...
 
2013-07-03 03:27:39 PM
Can't we just revert power back to the pharaohs? I'm sure Ramses has to have a descendant or two.
 
2013-07-03 03:28:42 PM

netweavr: Somacandra: HAMMERTOE: Like it or not, anybody who gets elected in Egypt from now on will get the message: "Yes the Constitution applies to you too.

Its kinda hard to take that seriously when the military has openly SUSPENDED the Constitution.

The Constitution was invalid the moment Morsi amended it to give himself unlimited power.


Kinda like how Congress voted to remove the whole "insider trading thing?"
 
2013-07-03 03:29:20 PM

bloobeary: Friend of mine just commented "Sure has been a lot of history happening lately."

Still not sure how to respond to that.


Or play him We didn't start the fire
 
2013-07-03 03:29:35 PM

Somacandra: HAMMERTOE: Like it or not, anybody who gets elected in Egypt from now on will get the message: "Yes the Constitution applies to you too.

Its kinda hard to take that seriously when the military has openly SUSPENDED the Constitution.


I think that's because Morsi changed it to protect his power.

Interim president is talking about rewriting it now.
 
2013-07-03 03:29:56 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: How does Obama support Morsi?

All we did was help them have the chance to have elections.  They're the ones who voted for a religious authoritarian.


Check Republican talking points.  Everything Obama does, regardless of outcome, is wrong.

Not ousting Qaddafi: Islamic terrorist left in power.
Ousting Qaddafi: destabilizes North Africa
Intervene in Syria: Unauthorized reckless foreign policy
Not intervene in Syria: Islamic terrorist left in power and weakness shown towards Russia

If Obama announced he discovered a cure for cancer, the R's would complain about 'government intrusion in the private sector' and 'job losses in the medical profession'.  Tomorrow they would be asking how long did he know how to cure cancer, why didn't he announce it sooner and how many Americans died because of his treacherous secrecy?
 
2013-07-03 03:30:24 PM

BarleyGnome: netweavr: Somacandra: HAMMERTOE: Like it or not, anybody who gets elected in Egypt from now on will get the message: "Yes the Constitution applies to you too.

Its kinda hard to take that seriously when the military has openly SUSPENDED the Constitution.

The Constitution was invalid the moment Morsi amended it to give himself unlimited power.

Kinda like how Congress voted to remove the whole "insider trading thing?"


More along the lines of: "Congress amended the constitution to remove the requirement that the President has to sign legislation."
 
2013-07-03 03:31:12 PM

JerseyTim: Can't we just revert power back to the pharaohs? I'm sure Ramses has to have a descendant or two.


Say what you will about the pharoahs, at least they made the slave drawn giant stone blocks run on time.
 
2013-07-03 03:31:26 PM

wxboy: CNN International talking to a Muslim Brotherhood member, he's not too pleased.  Just compared this to a theoretical overthrow of GW Bush when he was unpopular in terms of legitimacy.


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2013-07-03 03:31:31 PM
The problem with the legitimacy issue and comparing it to a stable democracy is that Morsi was actively trying to undermine the process that put him in office.  He rewrote the constitution and was well on the way to making himself President-for-life.   That's not how democracy works, the majority doesn't get to run roughshod over the minority.
 
2013-07-03 03:32:57 PM
Somacandra: Jake Steed: Way to go Huessein..

Jake? Is that you? Wow, man. Long time, no see. I'm almost nostalgic for you given the quality of the trolling on this site recently. Hope all is well. I like the angle you've taken--with the protest signs and all. That should liven things up around here.


=======================

Hey man!! It has been a while!!

Last time I was in a thread like this was about 18 months ago. You were telling me what a dumb ass I was for suggesting the Muslim Brotherhood would assume power in Egypt. When I mentioned that Obama was supporting the wrong team you were adamant that he was right.

I guess you were dead wrong for a bit on the Muslim Brotherhood part but time has proven you right! Good call bro! Still wrong Barry though!
 
2013-07-03 03:33:46 PM
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Somebuddy say my name?
 
2013-07-03 03:35:23 PM

netweavr: BarleyGnome: netweavr: Somacandra: HAMMERTOE: Like it or not, anybody who gets elected in Egypt from now on will get the message: "Yes the Constitution applies to you too.

Its kinda hard to take that seriously when the military has openly SUSPENDED the Constitution.

The Constitution was invalid the moment Morsi amended it to give himself unlimited power.

Kinda like how Congress voted to remove the whole "insider trading thing?"

More along the lines of: "Congress amended the constitution to remove the requirement that the President has to sign legislation."


I know, but it's still more about what they can do for themselves, rather than what they can do for the people. And by people, I mean the low and middle class.
 
2013-07-03 03:35:38 PM

phaseolus: Morsi, Morsi, Morsi.


/ you know, sometimes we're not prepared for adversity...


www.sitcomsonline.com 

All, all day long at school I hear how great Morsi is at this or how wonderful Morsi did that!  Morsi, Morsi, Morsi!
 
2013-07-03 03:37:53 PM

netweavr: The Constitution was invalid the moment Morsi amended it to give himself unlimited power.


This. ^

Kumana Wanalaia: When did that happen in the US?


Unilateral Drone attacks and other acts of war, for one.
Unconstitutional NSA wholesale "fishing trips" for another.
Not enforcing Federal Laws that go against thier political interests, for another.

And those are only the ones I can come up with off the top of my head...
 
2013-07-03 03:38:21 PM
From the Telegraph: The now ex-President Morsi has apparently been moved to an undisclosed location.

www.english-online.at
/Watch your six broski
 
2013-07-03 03:38:39 PM

Somacandra: chumboobler: Why are they calling this a coup? It seems to me that the military is enforcing the will of the people. If they don't hold free elections afterwards it could then be considered a coup. Right now it looks like the military is more interested in public safety than taking power.

If in the United States, if the Joint Chiefs of Staff announced that the Constitution is being suspended and installed Chief Justice John Roberts of the Supreme Court as the interim President, we in the U.S. would call that a coup d'etat.


It all depends. If the president had just declared that he had amended the constitution so that the supreme court could no longer review his actions and granted himself vast new authority rendering the both other branches of government effectively powerless, then we might not be so hasty to call military intervention a coup d'etat. At least in the short term, I don't think most people would consider it a coup unless the military didn't have a plan for restoring the constitution and holding new elections.
 
2013-07-03 03:38:40 PM
Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy
 
2013-07-03 03:38:56 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The problem with the legitimacy issue and comparing it to a stable democracy is that Morsi was actively trying to undermine the process that put him in office.  He rewrote the constitution and was well on the way to making himself President-for-life.   That's not how democracy works, the majority doesn't get to run roughshod over the minority.


It might be important to point out here that at the same time the Mubarak-era Justice system was trying to dissolve the entire Legislature that was in the process of writing the Constitution. Morsi was trying to support the MB-led Parliament. I'm not a fan of Morsi but what you said was a very glib interpretation of events.
 
2013-07-03 03:39:43 PM
I hope they don't lose health care.
 
2013-07-03 03:40:04 PM
Oh no, Morsi can't just fark the people of Egypt consequence-free because he happened to win an election. It's so awful. Elections are consent to anything the elected person chooses to do and no one should ever object because reasons.

Do people really believe this shiat?
 
2013-07-03 03:40:38 PM
The fireworks remind me of the Ewoks celebrating the Battle of Endor.
 
2013-07-03 03:40:55 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 699x402]

From Al Jazeera English, just now. Statement being read now by military leadership on a transitional plan.


Seriously? I give up on watching people stand around and cheer, and something actually happens? Dammit! I vowed not to miss this "historical moment"...
 
2013-07-03 03:41:00 PM
I need to know what is bad here and why it's Obama's fault.
 
2013-07-03 03:41:10 PM

runin800m: If the president had just declared that he had amended the constitution so that the supreme court could no longer review his actions and granted himself vast new authority rendering the both other branches of government effectively powerless, then we might not be so hasty to call military intervention a coup d'etat.


If the SCOTUS was entirely appointed by the Republican Party and was trying to dissolve Congress, you might definitely expect the Executive to engage it in a Constitutional showdown. Morsi didn't do this just out of the blue--all this took place in the context of a crisis between the old Judiciary and the brand new Parliament and Presdency.
 
2013-07-03 03:41:50 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: ...Elections are consent to anything the elected person chooses to do and no one should ever object because reasons.

Do people really believe this shiat?


Ask the state of Wisconsin.
 
2013-07-03 03:42:07 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Kumana Wanalaia: How does Obama support Morsi?

All we did was help them have the chance to have elections.  They're the ones who voted for a religious authoritarian.

Check Republican talking points.  Everything Obama does, regardless of outcome, is wrong.

Not ousting Qaddafi: Islamic terrorist left in power.
Ousting Qaddafi: destabilizes North Africa
Intervene in Syria: Unauthorized reckless foreign policy
Not intervene in Syria: Islamic terrorist left in power and weakness shown towards Russia

If Obama announced he discovered a cure for cancer, the R's would complain about 'government intrusion in the private sector' and 'job losses in the medical profession'.  Tomorrow they would be asking how long did he know how to cure cancer, why didn't he announce it sooner and how many Americans died because of his treacherous secrecy?


And how do we know Obama didn't invent cancer in the first place, just to force us to buy his ObamaCure?

I'm just asking questions. . .
 
2013-07-03 03:42:31 PM

Rapmaster2000: I need to know what is bad here and why it's Obama's fault.


It's bad because if someone wins a slim majority in an election that is consent for them to literally have sex with your unlubricated anus for the next four years, and if you do anything about it except vote against them next time it's a violation of stuff.

It's Obama's fault because he's black and also president.
 
2013-07-03 03:42:59 PM
Morsi tried to force his religion on the people. Just like Gov. Perry in Texas.
 
2013-07-03 03:43:16 PM

HAMMERTOE: what_now: You elected a bad guy? You get a do over in 4 years.

That's exactly what got the US in the mess it's in now, with the Executive Branch making up the rules as it goes along. Like it or not, anybody who gets elected in Egypt from now on will get the message: "Yes the Constitution applies to you too. You campaigned on a platform. You don't get to take it easy now that you won the National Popularity Contest. Now, your work begins in earnest."

If only we had a similar system...


I love people who think that anything Obama does is one millionth as bad as what political leaders in the Middle East do. You're going to find a lot of Arabs that have trouble sympathizing with the fact that you have more money being offset from your paycheck that is given back to you at the end of the year if you don't owe enough in taxes, for example.
 
2013-07-03 03:43:24 PM

that bosnian sniper: A Dark Evil Omen: ...Elections are consent to anything the elected person chooses to do and no one should ever object because reasons.

Do people really believe this shiat?

Ask the state of Wisconsin.


Well, yes, that was partly a rhetorical question. I'm glad the people of Egypt have a bit more dignity.
 
2013-07-03 03:43:25 PM

Rapmaster2000: I need to know what is bad here and why it's Obama's fault.


Obama's FaultTM is like Global Warming. It doesn't cause individual actions---but should be considered a default factor in all activities. In that sense, EVERYTHING is Obama's FaultTM
 
2013-07-03 03:43:35 PM
I hope Bob Bradley doesn't get fired.
 
2013-07-03 03:45:14 PM

Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy


At least CNN isn't calling him Ralph or something.
 
2013-07-03 03:45:42 PM
Morsi rides a cock camel?
 
2013-07-03 03:46:15 PM

Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy

Daily Mail: Moz
 
2013-07-03 03:46:49 PM
Aren't they running outa shiat to protest and riot over? Pass that d00b over here, we need some rioting and protesting up in this biatch too.
 
2013-07-03 03:46:59 PM
For those who have missed it...

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2013-07-03 03:47:02 PM

Dr.Zom: Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy
Daily Mail: Moz

Fox News: Obama
 
2013-07-03 03:47:08 PM

and Natasha: Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy

At least CNN isn't calling him Ralph or something.


CNN Top Story: Morrisey Performs In Egypt Amidst Concerns About Germaneness
 
2013-07-03 03:48:57 PM
The overthrowing of a "tyrannical ruler" in July and celebrating with fireworks is ripping us off.

Get your own thing,
 
2013-07-03 03:49:10 PM

Teiritzamna: AverageAmericanGuy: Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.

This is not a coup.  A coup suggests a framework in which a strong military decides to take over a previously independent government.

This is more a situation where before the Arab Spring, the actual power of Egypt was the military, after it, the actual power of Egypt was the military, and with the removal of Morsi, the actual power of Egypt will be the military.

It is somewhat similar to discussions of Iran electing a reformer president, which sounds heartening until you realize that the actual power both before, during and after Ahmadinejad was always the Supreme Cleric.


So, what you're saying is, until Egyptians go after the military, it will continue being like this?
 
2013-07-03 03:49:26 PM
No matter what happens, it's Obama's fault!
That's for sure!
 
2013-07-03 03:49:47 PM

Archae hippy: Al Jazeera:  Morsi
Reuters:  Mursi
CNN:  Morsy


I was going to say something... CNN has been spelling it that way for the past few days, I submitted it as an error and received this reply:

Greetings,

Thank you for contacting CNN. We appreciate your input regarding our coverage. According to the Foreign Ministry, Mohamed Morsy is the preferred spelling of Egypt's first democratically elected president. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Sincerely,CNN.com

So apparently CNN is saying that every other media outlet in the world is spelling it wrong.
 
2013-07-03 03:49:58 PM

wxboy: CNN International talking to a Muslim Brotherhood member, he's not too pleased.  Just compared this to a theoretical overthrow of GW Bush when he was unpopular in terms of legitimacy.


Difference was...wait, there is really that much of a difference.  More of a case of semantics, but he's pretty much nailed it.
 
2013-07-03 03:50:18 PM
Sounds like the Military is trying to make this bloodless. They've simply stated Morsi is no longer in power without doing anything to him.

This only works if the treasury, police, and media join them. Morsi will simply have no one follow his orders.
 
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