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2013-07-03 12:40:36 PM
This is going to be 0bama's BENGHAZI.
 
2013-07-03 12:41:48 PM

Granny_Panties: [i221.photobucket.com image 353x132]


Now that is some hard-hitting geopolitical analysis and commentary.
 
2013-07-03 12:42:04 PM

Satanic_Hamster: DarnoKonrad: No it's not. Morsi got a majority of votes and his party got a majority of seats. That means you make the rules. And I wouldn't be quick to *assume* the protestors represent a popular movement.

Getting 50.01% of the vote doesn't mean you can have all your opponents executed then raped.



And if they're very, very lucky ...
www.comicrelated.com
They'll do it in that order.
 
2013-07-03 12:42:26 PM

Tommy Moo: What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.


Sometimes people are stupid, and do stupid things, and later regret it.
 
2013-07-03 12:43:43 PM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-03 12:44:19 PM
What the Egyptian people want is safety. They need to set up some kind of a Committee on Public Safety to ensure that this goal is achieved.
 
2013-07-03 12:44:53 PM

Speaker2Animals: You hurt your shoulder reaching for that headline, subby?


I used this same line for our trivia team last night.  Or close to it.

HEY MORSI, HOW SOON IS NOW?
 
2013-07-03 12:45:21 PM

cameroncrazy1984: 21-7-b: travel ban extends to:

Muhammad Badie (Arabic: محمد بديع Muḥammad Badīʿ, IPA: [mæˈħæmmæd bæˈdiːʕ]) (born 1943) is the Supreme Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood.[1] He has headed the Egyptian branch of the international Islamist organization since 2010. Before becoming general guide, Badi'e had been a member of the group's governing council, the Guidance Bureau, since 1996.

Mohammed Khairat Saad El-Shater[1] (Arabic: محمد خيرت سعد الشاطر, IPA: [mæˈħæmmæd ˈxæjɾæt ˈsæʕd eʃˈʃɑːtˤeɾ]; born 4 May 1950) is an Egyptian engineer, businessman and Islamist political activist. He was the Muslim Brotherhood's candidate for the Egyptian presidential election in 2012 before disqualification by the election commission. Previously, he was the deputy chairman ("deputy supreme guide") of the Brotherhood.

Remember when people said the Muslim Brotherhood would be "taking over" the country?

Now their leaders are under house arrest. Democracy is beautiful.


And now the same people are weeping that Obama let the democratically elected leadership of Egypt get overthrown. Hopefully many in the region are put off by the party after their short rule and pursue a more secular alternative (though to be fair, their biggest failures are on an economic level and have zilch to do with the religious authoritarian bent they were trying to write into the Constitution.)
 
2013-07-03 12:45:24 PM

Thrag: Tommy Moo: What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.

A series of decisions and statement by Morsi that show a pattern of consolidating his power toward a theocratic dictatorship. Back in Nov. he declared his decisions not subject to judicial review. That was straw that broke the camel's back. Protests began again and the opposition began to solidify after that rather brazen power grab.

Since then there have been many protests and the two sides have not exactly been coming together. There has been violence between protesters and counter-protesters. Morsi has done a number of additional questionable and controversial things which for brevity I won't list here. The crisis has come to a head recently is because the opposition planned a mega protest in Tahir square for Jun 30 and they have gotten, by some reports, more people there than the protests that brought down Mubarak.

The turnout was likely fueled by the fact that Morsi gave a speech a few days earlier where he was expected to address the opposition's concerns but instead the speech turned out to be a rambling two and a half hour long middle finger to them. He also quoted some really obviously cooked stats about how the economy has been getting better under his rule. That probably turned some fence sitters over to the opposition since it is apparent to everyone in Egypt that their economy has been getting worse.


My wife says "thank you" for your answer. She was asking me the same question, but I couldn't give her as brief and concise an answer. Thanks.
 
2013-07-03 12:46:09 PM

durbnpoisn: I need a few questions answered - and I'm serious about this, because I am completely lost on this, thanks to the crap reporting.

1.  How did this guy get to be President?  Was he truly elected?
2.  What's he done to piss off millions of people in his country, including the military?
3.  Why does the media keep saying they are a "key ally"
4.  How much oil do the have, and how much are the selling to the US.
5.  Who is this fight between (that is, are the protesters the Muslims, or the other side)?


Yes he was elected.

He tried to give himself absolute power by decree after being elected and turn Egypt into a theocracy, by writing a constitution that was essentially Sharia law, instead of concentrating on fixing the economy.

They are a "Key Ally" because they're about the only country in the middle east that isn't openly hostile to Israel.

I don't think they have much/any oil. But they control the Suez Canal.

The protestors are pretty much everyone EXCEPT the Muslim Brotherhood. I wouldn't doubt that lots (most) of them are actually muslim as well, but they aren't happy with how Mori and the Muslim Brotherhood have been running the country for the reasons listed above.
 
2013-07-03 12:46:20 PM
So he ran as a secular centrist but governed as a religious fundamentalist and they are kicking him out? As an American I would like to take a page from this book.
 
2013-07-03 12:47:20 PM
never knew the decemberists were this popular in egypt
 
2013-07-03 12:47:40 PM

durbnpoisn: I need a few questions answered - and I'm serious about this, because I am completely lost on this, thanks to the crap reporting.

1.  How did this guy get to be President?  Was he truly elected?
2.  What's he done to piss off millions of people in his country, including the military?
3.  Why does the media keep saying they are a "key ally"
4.  How much oil do the have, and how much are the selling to the US.
5.  Who is this fight between (that is, are the protesters the Muslims, or the other side)?


1. He was fairly elected.  His party is the Muslim Brotherhood, which many people - including Egyptians - feel are hardline Islamists
2. He declared that the constitution didn't apply to him, and cancelled all elections for the foreseeable future.
3. Egypt is a strategically important, relatively pro-West, mostly Muslim-but-less-hardline-fundamentalist than many states in the area.
4. Dunno but Suez is a pretty important trade route
5. The army, moderate Muslims, Coptic Christians and millions of populace at large vs. a minority of pro-Morsi extremists.

This is all courtesy of a Coptic friend of mine in Cairo and includes his biases.  The Copts have been periodically hassled and oppressed by hardline Islamists, so they're extremely anti-Morsi.  Interesting he loves the US, but feels that Obama is being too supportive of Morsi.
 
2013-07-03 12:47:42 PM

HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me.  Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution?  Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media.  I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests.  I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible.  I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything.  You're all just full of boloney!  Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it.  I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken.  I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high.  Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey.  But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.


Haven't had one of these posts in awhile.
 
2013-07-03 12:48:01 PM

Nabb1: You shut your mouth.  How can you say he's going about things the wrong way?


I laughed way too hard at this. Bravo.
 
2013-07-03 12:48:09 PM

DarnoKonrad: ciberido: Really? I thought most democratic countries had was something called "checks and balances" that said otherwise.

Read the link.  "checks and balances" is specific our dysfunctional system.  Most parliamentary democracies  around the world think our system is undemocratic and stupid, and they're largely right.


sure if you're an American "checks and balances" might as well be written by Jesus, but no, most of the world does not practice "checks and balances."


One of us sucks at reading comprehension, because I'm pretty sure the article I linked. was about check-and-balance type systems in SEVERAL countries.  Maybe you're talking about some other link?
 
2013-07-03 12:48:11 PM

durbnpoisn: I need a few questions answered - and I'm serious about this, because I am completely lost on this, thanks to the crap reporting.

1.  How did this guy get to be President?  Was he truly elected?
2.  What's he done to piss off millions of people in his country, including the military?
3.  Why does the media keep saying they are a "key ally"
4.  How much oil do the have, and how much are the selling to the US.
5.  Who is this fight between (that is, are the protesters the Muslims, or the other side)?



1. Yes
2. Changed the constitution after he was elected, did jack shiat for the economy, cronyism
3. Key ally because they signed a peace treaty with Israel, and they control the Suez Canal.
4. They don't have much, but a lot of oil goes through the Suez Canal.
5. Muslim fundamentalists are in charge. Protestors are everyone else.
 
2013-07-03 12:50:15 PM
Good riddance.

Now it remains to be seen whether the military allows a do-over on democracy or whether they decide to keep the power for themselves.
 
2013-07-03 12:51:30 PM

bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.


Well it took the US 10 years from the declaration of independence to the US Constitution, so so far they are under how fast we did it still.
 
2013-07-03 12:53:06 PM

ciberido: DarnoKonrad: ciberido: Really? I thought most democratic countries had was something called "checks and balances" that said otherwise.

Read the link.  "checks and balances" is specific our dysfunctional system.  Most parliamentary democracies  around the world think our system is undemocratic and stupid, and they're largely right.


sure if you're an American "checks and balances" might as well be written by Jesus, but no, most of the world does not practice "checks and balances."

One of us sucks at reading comprehension, because I'm pretty sure the article I linked. was about check-and-balance type systems in SEVERAL countries.  Maybe you're talking about some other link?


Yeah.
An independent judiciary is pretty much par for the course in W. Europe, Australia, New Zealand, India, Canada.  That's more important than executive vs. legislative
So are multicameral legislatures, with different election cycles.
 
2013-07-03 12:54:33 PM

HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me.  Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution?  Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media.  I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests.  I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible.  I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything.  You're all just full of boloney!  Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it.  I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken.  I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high.  Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey.  But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.


Dear sir--I knew StopArrestingMe.  You're not StopArrestingMe...

...but this post is damn close, and it's making me decidedly hungry :9
 
2013-07-03 12:54:46 PM

Lionel Mandrake: FrancoFile: cwheelie: THIS JUST IN!
CNN IS REPORTING THAT MORSI IS ON A PLANE TO ECUADOR WITH PAULA DEEN!
MORE FACTS COMING AS SOON AS WE CAN THINK OF SOME!

NY Post FOX Reports 12 Morsis on Plane eating caviar and lobsters and drinking champagne with Michelle Obama!!


Unskewed Polls predicts Morsi will win 359 electoral votes.
 
2013-07-03 12:57:00 PM

durbnpoisn: I need a few questions answered - and I'm serious about this, because I am completely lost on this, thanks to the crap reporting.

1.  How did this guy get to be President?  Was he truly elected?
2.  What's he done to piss off millions of people in his country, including the military?
3.  Why does the media keep saying they are a "key ally"
4.  How much oil do the have, and how much are the selling to the US.
5.  Who is this fight between (that is, are the protesters the Muslims, or the other side)?


1. There were some reports of rigging in the election. Of course they were also stopping Mubarak's hand picked successor being blocked. Then there was all the measures to block more secular candidates from being voted. Throw in a heavy dose of voter fraud and intimidation, there was a few problems. Of course it was their first election too.

2. The military in general are a bit annoyed by the massive crack down on civil freedoms, violent crackdown on protesters, Then there was the laws Morsi created and executively signed into office to give himself more and more powers to go after anyone he dislikes. Add to that the general dislike of Islamist Governments in the region, the collapse of the economy and tourism, etc. has led to a bad time for Morsi.

3. Egypt is a key ally in the region. They have the Suez Canal, they import a large amount of military hardware, particularly tanks, weapons, aircraft etc. They also a been a stabilizing force in the region for the past 30 years.

4. Egypt isn't a massive oil producing country. They only export a relatively small amount of oil onto the market.

5. There are Muslims on both sides. It is a predominately Muslim country, with a large Coptic minority. The Muslim Brotherhood though would probably be the more radical of the groups, with talks about introducing Sharia law and solidifying the power back into the hands of Morsi. The protestors for the most part don't want that, nor the policies that have collapsed the economic engine of the country.
 
2013-07-03 12:58:50 PM
Al Jazeera reporting that tanks are outside the protests at Cairo University.
 
2013-07-03 12:58:55 PM

Corvus: bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.

Well it took the US 10 years from the declaration of independence to the US Constitution, so so far they are under how fast we did it still.


And it took us 90 years to eliminate slavery, 150 years to allow women to vote, and almost 200 years to mostly eliminate overt, uncamoflauged attempts to deny non-whites the vote.
 
2013-07-03 01:00:30 PM

GardenWeasel: Red Shirt Blues: cameroncrazy1984: Heathen: Twitch Boy: Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?

uh, it's already there

Sucks to be you, I paid $3.70 in New York yesterday.

3.29 in Florida

2.88 in Indy


:($4.22 in San Diego.
 
2013-07-03 01:00:45 PM

buckler: I sometimes wish our military had the same resolve when Bush the Lesser was in power.


You do realize what party the large majority of military personnel vote for, right?  I'll give you a hint.  Walk into most military gyms or PX food courts with TVs, and they will be tuned to Fox News, or maybe ESPN.  The military is just a tad more conservative than you seem to think it is.
 
2013-07-03 01:01:25 PM

Spindle: HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me.  Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution?  Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media.  I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests.  I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible.  I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything.  You're all just full of boloney!  Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it.  I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken.  I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high.  Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to

knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey.  But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.

Haven't had ...


Nice.
 
2013-07-03 01:01:32 PM

YixilTesiphon: Corvus: bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.

Well it took the US 10 years from the declaration of independence to the US Constitution, so so far they are under how fast we did it still.

And it took us 90 years to eliminate slavery, 150 years to allow women to vote, and almost 200 years to mostly eliminate overt, uncamoflauged attempts to deny non-whites the vote.


Only at the federal level.  Individual states forbade/disallowed each of those long before a federal law was enacted.
 
2013-07-03 01:01:38 PM

YixilTesiphon: Corvus: bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.

Well it took the US 10 years from the declaration of independence to the US Constitution, so so far they are under how fast we did it still.

And it took us 90 years to eliminate slavery, 150 years to allow women to vote, and almost 200 years to mostly eliminate overt, uncamoflauged attempts to deny non-whites the vote.


And 250 years to pretend that that last part could never happen again.
 
2013-07-03 01:01:57 PM
COUP underway!!!
 
2013-07-03 01:03:04 PM

YixilTesiphon: Corvus: bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.

Well it took the US 10 years from the declaration of independence to the US Constitution, so so far they are under how fast we did it still.

And it took us 90 years to eliminate slavery, 150 years to allow women to vote, and almost 200 years to mostly eliminate overt, uncamoflauged attempts to deny non-whites the vote.


/troll mode on
Yeah, but the Arabs like to talk big about how they were so much more civilized than Europe during the middle ages.  Which means they had a big head start that they've squandered.
/troll mode off
 
2013-07-03 01:06:37 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.


So, is he being deposed a) for being too Islamist, b) for not being Islamist enough, or c) just because the army wants to run things?
 
2013-07-03 01:06:39 PM

Robots are Strong: And 250 years to pretend that that last part could never happen again.


The SC was right. This map is absurd. Arkansas and North Carolina don't have to get state-level preclearance? Extend it to the entire United States.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-03 01:08:14 PM

Spindle: Haven't had one of these posts in awhile.


+
beef
bangers
frank
dog
knockwurst

/Well, some people eat dog... though maybe it's "give it a s hot, dog gedly ..."
 
2013-07-03 01:08:25 PM

BgJonson79: YixilTesiphon: Corvus: bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.

Well it took the US 10 years from the declaration of independence to the US Constitution, so so far they are under how fast we did it still.

And it took us 90 years to eliminate slavery, 150 years to allow women to vote, and almost 200 years to mostly eliminate overt, uncamoflauged attempts to deny non-whites the vote.

Only at the federal level.  Individual states forbade/disallowed each of those long before a federal law was enacted.


I think the point is that Jim Crow was still going on in some states until the Voting Rights Act was enacted in the '60s.
 
2013-07-03 01:12:35 PM

Nabb1: You shut your mouth.  How can you say he's going about things the wrong way?


See, he's already waited too long, and now his hope is gone.
 
2013-07-03 01:12:35 PM
Good times for a change.  See, the luck the Egyptians had can make a good man turn bad .

So please please please  Let them get what they want! Lord knows, it would be the first time.
 
2013-07-03 01:12:46 PM
Let my people go!
 
2013-07-03 01:13:42 PM
Personally, I don't think Morsi should be overthrown because he is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, or because his victory over more secular opponents "proves" that he "cheated," somehow.

I think he should be overthrown because he set Egypt on a direct course to economic suicide that will, even with full humanitarian assistance, lead to starvation of a significant portion of the population, violated his own constitution to do so, and surrounded himself with sufficient armed forces loyal to himself rather than to Egypt that a military coup is the least damaging option to impose rule of law.

/even a president must obey the law
//and a constitution that becomes a suicide pact must be repealed
 
2013-07-03 01:14:20 PM
So we're at Serious Pie one night and this guy at a table in the back gets up and goes to leave.  He brushes my wife's arm in passing, causing her to look up.  She gets this googley-eyed look on her face and says "OMG! I think that was Morrissey!"  Just like I do every time I click on the Entertainment tab I go "Who?" and she's says "MORRISSEY!  From the Smiths! OMG!"  and then she calls over the waiter who confirms that it was him and pretty soon everyone in the damn place including the manager is clustered around our table nattering on about some stupid guy I've never heard of.  We manage our way through the meal and get home.  My wife is determined that I know who he is even though I repeatedly tell her I have no clue.  She proceeds to play every farking song this pretentious asshole ever recorded while prodding me with "oh come on! Even you have to have heard this song!" while randomly selecting things from his catalog.  This went on for hours while she drank wine and sang along to what she was calling music.

So that is why I hate Morsi/Morrissey headlines and am secretly glad that one of them has been arrested.
 
2013-07-03 01:14:25 PM

Speaker2Animals: You hurt your shoulder reaching for that headline, subby?


Yeah, that was a reach. But you can't argue with success, I suppose.
 
2013-07-03 01:14:29 PM
I just hope the Scorpions don't write a rock ballad about all this.
 
2013-07-03 01:14:30 PM

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: CNN is sticking with the George Zimmerman trial with a small screen in Cairo as thing are going batty.

/it's not news
//it's CNN


That's actually CNN's new "Future Vision": it's showing what's going to happen when Zimmerman walks free.
 
2013-07-03 01:14:49 PM
The Laser Pointer Summer has spread to Egypt!
 
2013-07-03 01:14:53 PM
Hmmm I have always wondered what a military coupe looked like.  I never would have imagined it looked like a Kubelwagen.
 
2013-07-03 01:16:04 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me.  Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution?  Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media.  I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests.  I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible.  I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything.  You're all just full of boloney!  Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it.  I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken.  I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high.  Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey.  But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.


Just noticed that one.
 
2013-07-03 01:16:32 PM
Tanks are rolling

Morsi offers to form coalition government

(aljazeera)
 
2013-07-03 01:16:45 PM

Joe Peanut: Good times for a change.  See, the luck the Egyptians had can make a good man turn bad .

So please please please  Let them get what they want! Lord knows, it would be the first time.


fark, I hate The Smiths.
 
2013-07-03 01:17:14 PM
And here come the laser pointers...
 
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