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2013-07-03 11:58:09 AM
Good
 
2013-07-03 11:59:21 AM
Geez, Morsi doesn't have to be all emo about getting kicked out of office.
 
2013-07-03 11:59:28 AM
Surely democracy will work next time.
 
2013-07-03 11:59:34 AM
Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?
 
2013-07-03 11:59:34 AM
Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.
 
2013-07-03 11:59:34 AM
You shut your mouth.  How can you say he's going about things the wrong way?
 
2013-07-03 11:59:43 AM
Is it me or does he look like that blind governor guy from New York?
 
2013-07-03 11:59:46 AM
This is the US media reporting what Egyptian "media" is claiming. In other words, two notoriously crappy sources of news citing each other.

Take it with a grain of salt.
 
2013-07-03 11:59:50 AM
As one guy said in the last thread; Morsi was the fairest elected leader of Egypt in living memory and he was taking steps to make sure of that.
 
2013-07-03 12:00:01 PM
As long as it doesn't interfere with The Monkees Revisited Tour I'm OK with it.
 
2013-07-03 12:00:31 PM
So you go and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own and you... oh wait, no you don't.
 
2013-07-03 12:00:34 PM
He does have a shyness that is criminally vulgar.
 
2013-07-03 12:01:05 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.


You'd biatch about it either way, that's for certain.
"Wah wah wah, Muslims have took over Egypt."
"Wah wah wah, military has removed the Muslim dictator that was fairly elected, wah wah wah."
 
2013-07-03 12:01:07 PM
You shut your mouth, how can you say he  goes about things the wrong way
 
2013-07-03 12:01:14 PM
Not unexpected but Faaaark.
 
2013-07-03 12:01:32 PM
Thanks Obama.
 
2013-07-03 12:01:35 PM

Griftin Rubes: You shut your mouth, how can you say he  goes about things the wrong way


he is human and he needs to be loooooooved
 
2013-07-03 12:01:41 PM
What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.
 
2013-07-03 12:01:54 PM
www.medpagetoday.com

RIP Morsi
 
2013-07-03 12:01:59 PM
CNN is sticking with the George Zimmerman trial with a small screen in Cairo as thing are going batty.

/it's not news
//it's CNN
 
2013-07-03 12:02:03 PM
This happens so much over there I don't even give a shait anymore.
 
2013-07-03 12:02:04 PM

Twitch Boy: Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?


uh, it's already there
 
2013-07-03 12:02:31 PM
And now he knows how Joan of Arc felt.
 
2013-07-03 12:02:36 PM
Ruh roh.

Militant islamist government blowing up Egyptian cultural heritage in 5... 4... 3...
 
2013-07-03 12:02:41 PM

bsharitt: Surely democracy will work next time.


The US declared independence from England in 1776. George Washington became President in 1789. In between, we had the Continental Congress, the Articles of Confederation, and essentially 13 little nations with a common coin and army.

These things don't always work flawlessly the first time. Give the Egyptians some time, and be thankful that their military seems to be big on the Rule of Law.
 
2013-07-03 12:02:55 PM
We hate it when our friends become successful.
 
2013-07-03 12:02:55 PM

Tommy Moo: What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.


He was turning the nation into a terrorist factory. He was also exploiting the countries resources for Western-interests.

Basically he was playing both sides against the middle. The middle being the Egyptian people.
 
2013-07-03 12:03:21 PM

FullMetalPanda: Is it me or does he look like that blind governor guy from New York?


HOLY SHIAT, that's who he is! I knew he reminded me of somebody.
 
2013-07-03 12:03:48 PM
Al Jazeera isn't reporting this...
 
2013-07-03 12:03:56 PM

Satanic_Hamster: AverageAmericanGuy: Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.

You'd biatch about it either way, that's for certain.
"Wah wah wah, Muslims have took over Egypt."
"Wah wah wah, military has removed the Muslim dictator that was fairly elected, wah wah wah."


Yes. Both of those are pretty shiatty outcomes, I think.

Morsi's job was to help formulate a new constitution. The anti-Islamists wanted nothing to do with the process, and now are pissed that they were left out. For the most part, Morsi has been a pitiable bystander in watching his country get torn apart.

Think of Morsi as Obama and the protestors as the House Republicans. The ideals may be different, but the tactics are very similar.
 
2013-07-03 12:04:15 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.


This is not a coup.  A coup suggests a framework in which a strong military decides to take over a previously independent government.

This is more a situation where before the Arab Spring, the actual power of Egypt was the military, after it, the actual power of Egypt was the military, and with the removal of Morsi, the actual power of Egypt will be the military.

It is somewhat similar to discussions of Iran electing a reformer president, which sounds heartening until you realize that the actual power both before, during and after Ahmadinejad was always the Supreme Cleric.
 
2013-07-03 12:04:25 PM

Satanic_Hamster: AverageAmericanGuy: Great. A military coup.

I'm sure that will bring peace and freedom to Egypt.

You'd biatch about it either way, that's for certain.
"Wah wah wah, Muslims have took over Egypt."
"Wah wah wah, military has removed the Muslim dictator that was fairly elected, wah wah wah."


To be fair, sometimes all paths out of a terrible situation are, themselves, terrible.  If this gets it through the collective consciousness of their leaders that elected doesn't mean all-powerful, then there's hope for the next election.  I'm not sure I believe that.
 
2013-07-03 12:04:43 PM

Glendale: This happens so much over there I don't even give a shait anymore.


This is only the second time in quite a while that Egypt has tried to change power. The first being from a dictator to a democracy, and now being "hey you suck at democracy, Morsi and MB, let's fix this/Nuh uh the MB is fine ignore the protests." It's not like this happens every 3 years or something.
 
2013-07-03 12:04:46 PM

Tommy Moo: What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.


I think when he came out and said the Egyptian constitution doesn't apply to him was the beginning of the end but yeah economics and crime/corruption are hurting him too.
 
2013-07-03 12:05:01 PM

russlar: Al Jazeera isn't reporting this...


That's because it's propaganda at this point. US Media doesn't actually fact-check before publishing.
 
2013-07-03 12:05:13 PM
I'm sure America will condemn this illegal coup.

Though it might give us a chance to get in a more radical Islamic president who'll finish off the non-muslim Egyptian population for good.
 
2013-07-03 12:05:26 PM

Twitch Boy: Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?


Why would prices drop?

/lives in Chicago
 
2013-07-03 12:05:30 PM

FullMetalPanda: Is it me or does he look like that blind governor guy from New York?


The governor of New York use to be a cab driver?
 
2013-07-03 12:05:33 PM
Dish Network channel 280 RT is showing real news.
 
2013-07-03 12:05:44 PM

Heathen: Twitch Boy: Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?

uh, it's already there


Sucks to be you, I paid $3.70 in New York yesterday.
 
2013-07-03 12:06:03 PM

netweavr: Tommy Moo: What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.

He was turning the nation into a terrorist factory. He was also exploiting the countries resources for Western-interests.

Basically he was playing both sides against the middle. The middle being the Egyptian people.


But he was democratically elected. You can't have a democracy if you decide "Oh, I don't like that guy. We'll just have the military oust him".

You elected a bad guy? You get a do over in 4 years.
 
2013-07-03 12:06:16 PM

Tommy Moo: What started all this? Does anyone remember? Was he cracking down on dissent? Was he ignoring the needs of the poor? I thought this was the guy that got elected by the people just a couple of years ago.


no one really started the fire... it was always burning, since the worlds been turning
 
2013-07-03 12:06:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Heathen: Twitch Boy: Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?

uh, it's already there

Sucks to be you, I paid $3.70 in New York yesterday.


3.29 in Florida
 
2013-07-03 12:06:35 PM
Like Iran's protests. . .remember those delusional threads on Fark?. . . .I'm not so sure this is going to pan out for the protesters, who, like Iran, might represent a small but vocal minority.

Morsi won a majority of votes, and the Muslim Brotherhood has deep roots in Egypt.  It's not out of possibility to say the military has miscalculated here.
 
2013-07-03 12:06:46 PM

russlar: Al Jazeera isn't reporting this...


They are now.
 
2013-07-03 12:06:48 PM
I'm just glad both sides blame America for this. The protestors are holding up anti-Obama messages accusing America of backing Morsi the same way we did Mubarak. Morsi has suggested that any success the protestors have is a sign the West is trying to stamp out the Muslim Brotherhood and is manipulating events in Egypt. In other words, both sides are butthurt over their belief we masterminded a dispute we had jack all to do with.

Let's see how the military deals with this: go the democratic route again, or decide to forgo the appearance that they haven't been running the country they've been keeping up for decades.
 
2013-07-03 12:06:53 PM

reillan: Griftin Rubes: You shut your mouth, how can you say he  goes about things the wrong way

he is human and he needs to be loooooooved


Just like everybody else does.
 
2013-07-03 12:06:55 PM

YixilTesiphon: FullMetalPanda: Is it me or does he look like that blind governor guy from New York?

HOLY SHIAT, that's who he is! I knew he reminded me of somebody.


Patterson? You guys are not wrong.
 
2013-07-03 12:07:26 PM
Why are people so shocked an appalled at this?  Revolutions aren't one-shot deals, and then everything is fairies and roses.  Look at the two bbiggies: America went through a major evolution in the idea of democracy in the first 15 years after the Declaration of Independance (roughly, I don't recall exactly how long the Articles of Confederation where in place), and nearly a century later killed millions settling the final balance between states and federal power.  France went through a half-century, two republics, two Empires, and two monarchies before they got things settled down reasonably well; but were STILL tweaking the process into the 50's when de Gaulle did basically what the Egyptian Army is doing now.

If Egypt has a Washington / de Gaulle figure, a military leader who can use the Army to gain leadership, and then remove the ability to do so right after that, then they will probably be alright.  But it's going to be decades before Egypt, Libya, and Syria have this sorted out.

/Algeria and Tunisia might actually be further along in this process, Morocco seems to be there.  Turkey is in the final stages of this (I think constitutional revision is coming, rather than revolution), Iraq is a huge mess, and Iran needs its own new revolution.  Israel seems to be going in the other direction, towards a democratic theocracy/apartheid state
 
2013-07-03 12:07:37 PM
Thank goodness CNN has a little window letting us know there's a coup underway in Egypt. Wouldn't want to take away from a lawyer droning on in the Zimmerman trial.
 
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