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(Politico)   NTSB: There was no missile strike on TWA Flight 800. You people are idiots   (politico.com) divider line 95
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2013-07-03 09:11:13 AM
That's what the Bilderbergers WANT you to think!
 
2013-07-03 09:12:49 AM
Never let eye-witness reports get in the way of the facts you want people to know.
 
2013-07-03 09:13:39 AM
You guys are SHEEP!

/ALEX JONES told me!
// Ever NOTICE that CONSPIRACY buffs like TRUTHERS always talk like THIS?
 
2013-07-03 09:14:57 AM
Well okay, seems there's nothing to talk about on to the next thread.
 
2013-07-03 09:15:21 AM
That's technicall true, because there was no Flight 800 to begin with!

Do some Internet research on "Flight 801".  If you're ready to know the Truth about what happened.
 
2013-07-03 09:15:28 AM
Hmmm...I think my sock in tin just rose a quarter of point.
 
2013-07-03 09:15:33 AM
Yeah, whatevs.  I saw the video.  Pictures don't lie.  (Well, unless you're in some fashion mag.)
 
2013-07-03 09:17:16 AM
I have it on good authority that this is not the case, my source comes from a secret defected agent now living in the remote hinterlands of Siberia hidden from the grid. He telepathically connects with me to share the worlds darkest secrets and you know what, the dark honest truth is? It's that this plane WAS shot down with a missile, but it was not a terrorist plot. It was indeed a plot to save the world for you see on this plane was the dark world agent Venu who was plotting to terraform the Earth for his kind. We just happen to have gotten information that he was be on this flight and were forced to take action immediately. So a sleeper agent was activated to take the plane down on take off. And it wasn't a missile that took it down, a very high tech laser rail gun was used that gave the appearance that a faulty wire lit the fuel in the wing on fire.

So you can thank the secret program that keeps you all safe and alive from alien threats.
 
2013-07-03 09:18:22 AM
Aliens.
 
2013-07-03 09:20:02 AM
Where have I heard that before.
 
2013-07-03 09:20:35 AM
This happened about a week after my girlfriend in high school returned from Greece on TWA.  The flight for this plane was typically Greece to New York to France and then to Rome or Greece.  I saw a few friends in The airport while waiting for my girlfriend to arrive that were flying on the same plane to Paris.  It was pretty shocking for all of us because if everyone would have been travelling a week later, we would have been a part of this tragedy.  Makes you want a beer.
 
2013-07-03 09:21:07 AM
And what was Barack HUSSEIN 0bama doing in July 1996 when TWA flight 800 went down?

Nobody knows, right?

THAT'S RIGHT, SHEEPLE!
 
2013-07-03 09:22:51 AM

Parthenogenetic: And what was Barack HUSSEIN 0bama doing in July 1996 when TWA flight 800 went down?

Nobody knows, right?

THAT'S RIGHT, SHEEPLE!


I never thought of that, it's so obvious now
 
2013-07-03 09:23:10 AM
Simple solution. Put all the Missile Theorists on a plane to fly to the web site. NTSB fires a real missile at the plane and hits it. Let them see the difference. For everyone else who flies without the fuel tank exploding, thank the science.
 
2013-07-03 09:23:12 AM
Jesus farking Christ on a stick, this derp again. I thought people forget about this crap long ago. I remember back when this first happened I worked at this places where the radio was tuned into the Mancow show in the mornings and he went on and on about this and how Clinton ordered the plane shot down so he could blame it on terrorist in order to institute marshal law and take away more of our freedoms. Of course non of it made any sense since non of that stuff ever happened after the crash.
 
2013-07-03 09:23:20 AM

Parthenogenetic: And what was Barack HUSSEIN 0bama doing in July 1996 when TWA flight 800 went down?

Nobody knows, right?

THAT'S RIGHT, SHEEPLE!


Study it out!
 
2013-07-03 09:23:24 AM

DubtodaIll: Never let eye-witness reports get in the way of the facts you want people to know.


Yeah, because eyewitnesses who have never seen a surface-to-air missile are so much more reliable than radar and ship's logs.

/They don't create a streak of light at altitude; they just look like a glowing dot that doesn't appear to be moving that fast.

//If the Navy was going to lie about a shootdown, don't you think they'd have lied about this one?

///You people are idiots.
 
2013-07-03 09:24:22 AM

garon43: This happened about a week after my girlfriend in high school returned from Greece on TWA.  The flight for this plane was typically Greece to New York to France and then to Rome or Greece.  I saw a few friends in The airport while waiting for my girlfriend to arrive that were flying on the same plane to Paris.  It was pretty shocking for all of us because if everyone would have been travelling a week later, we would have been a part of this tragedy.  Makes you want a beer.


come on, do you really need an excuse to have a beer?
 
2013-07-03 09:24:49 AM
I always love the selective skepticism that conspiracy nut bars have. You can't trust the government because, well, they're the government, and you can't trust the mainstream media, because it belongs to corporate interests. But you can just swallow whole what some crazy screaming fatass on the radio or some whackaloon YouTube video tells you. They're legit.
 
2013-07-03 09:26:25 AM
There were multiple planes involved on 9-11 because the terrorists were sick and tired of the government brushing things under the rug.

If only one plane was involved in 9-11 the official word would have been pilot error.
 
2013-07-03 09:26:40 AM
I always thought it crashed because the pilot was dead and an asian woman took it upon herself to fly the plane.

/ah. . .there's my exit five lanes over.
 
2013-07-03 09:26:58 AM
www.acting-man.com
 
2013-07-03 09:29:20 AM

Hawnkee: Hmmm...I think my sock in tin just rose a quarter of point.


That sounds like a euphemism for an erection.
 
2013-07-03 09:33:04 AM
What actually happened was that David Banner (or is it Bruce Banner, I don't remember) was a passenger on the plane.  He had eaten a REALLY bad burrito just a few hours before the flight.  Well, if a flat tire can make him angry, imagine what Taco Ball can do to him at 30000 feet.

pewlpit.com
 
2013-07-03 09:36:37 AM

Giltric: There were multiple planes involved on 9-11 because the terrorists were sick and tired of the government brushing things under the rug.

If only one plane was involved in 9-11 the official word would have been pilot error.


WAKE UP SHEEPLE
 
2013-07-03 09:37:59 AM

Giltric: There were multiple planes involved on 9-11 because the terrorists were sick and tired of the government brushing things under the rug.

If only one plane was involved in 9-11 the official word would have been pilot error.


Well, yeah, because there were never any single-plane attacks that were blamed on terrorism. Ever.
 
2013-07-03 09:43:41 AM

mbillips: Giltric: There were multiple planes involved on 9-11 because the terrorists were sick and tired of the government brushing things under the rug.

If only one plane was involved in 9-11 the official word would have been pilot error.

Well, yeah, because there were never any single-plane attacks that were blamed on terrorism. Ever.


It is very difficult for the NTSB/us agency/us government to cover up international incidents, but they will cover up everything they can get away with covering up.

Plus, something exploding in mid air is hard not to blame on something that could explode "naturally" like flight 800 did.

Quite different with a plane crash.....

They tried claiming the Fort Hood shooter wasn't a terrorist.....
 
2013-07-03 09:45:27 AM

Giltric: It is very difficult for the NTSB/us agency/us government to cover up international incidents, but they will cover up everything they can get away with covering up.


[citation needed]

But of course, they covered up all the evidence, so there is no citation! DAMN YOU, OBAMA!
 
2013-07-03 09:47:58 AM

mbillips: Giltric: It is very difficult for the NTSB/us agency/us government to cover up international incidents, but they will cover up everything they can get away with covering up.

[citation needed]

But of course, they covered up all the evidence, so there is no citation! DAMN YOU, OBAMA!


Well there is no actual evidence that the NSA is recording every phone call, text and email sent......right?

Why do you get all defensive and bring Obama into the conversation?

Why are you trying to deflect and distract?
 
2013-07-03 09:57:02 AM
TWA Flight 800 did set the record though for fastest service between JFK and JFK jr...
 
2013-07-03 09:58:16 AM

jake_lex: I always love the selective skepticism that conspiracy nut bars have. You can't trust the government because, well, they're the government, and you can't trust the mainstream media, because it belongs to corporate interests. But you can just swallow whole what some crazy screaming fatass on the radio or some whackaloon YouTube video tells you. They're legit.


The difference is that youtube videos are on the INTERNET.
You can't put things on the internet that aren't true.

Just because you don't believe in something, doesn't mean it is wrong.
 
2013-07-03 09:59:01 AM

Hawnkee: Hmmm...I think my sock in tin just rose a quarter of point.


But tinfoil hats are made of aluminum now. IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!
 
2013-07-03 10:09:35 AM
Well shiat, if the NTSB said it, it must be true. There's no reason for them to lie!
 
2013-07-03 10:11:31 AM

jake_lex: I always love the selective skepticism that conspiracy nut bars have. You can't trust the government because, well, they're the government, and you can't trust the mainstream media, because it belongs to corporate interests. But you can just swallow whole what some crazy screaming fatass on the radio or some whackaloon YouTube video tells you. They're legit.


I wonder if a case could be made for a Biblical requirement to check your sources. It's said that Eve had heard from God Himself that eating from the tree would kill her. But when a talking snake told her she wouldn't die, she believed it without question. Could this not be considered a parallel to taking the word of random Internet wackos over people in an actual position to have genuine insight?

Just thinking out loud, really. With the number of hyper-evangelicals in the ranks of the conspiracy nutters, a religious argument that stands to remove them could be a powerful tool.
 
2013-07-03 10:12:52 AM
Like I'm going to take this BS from a file system.
 
2013-07-03 10:15:42 AM

DubtodaIll: Never let eye-witness reports get in the way of the facts you want people to know.


Which eyewitness has experience telling apart a midair explosion caused by tank problems and a surface to air missile?
 
2013-07-03 10:19:22 AM

CarnySaur: Hawnkee: Hmmm...I think my sock in tin just rose a quarter of point.

That sounds like a euphemism for an erection.


The Illuminati stole the t.  Crafty bastards, that lot.
 
2013-07-03 10:20:46 AM

DubtodaIll: Never let eye-witness reports get in the way of the facts you want people to know.


Yes - so when people say the center threw a soccer ball to the short-stop to score a third wicket, we should immediately agree that eyewitness reports say it was a hockey game.

That's the problem with these eyewitness reports - they don't match a missile of any kind any more than the above matches any known hockey game.
 
2013-07-03 10:24:15 AM

poot_rootbeer: That's technicall true, because there was no Flight 800 to begin with!

Do some Internet research on "Flight 801".  If you're ready to know the Truth about what happened.


"Psst...wanna buy some conspiracy theory?"

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-07-03 10:25:52 AM

D_PaulAngel: TWA Flight 800 did set the record though for fastest service between JFK and JFK jr...


that's terrible and I'm stealing it

/expect that as a follow-up headline
 
2013-07-03 10:26:42 AM

mbillips: DubtodaIll: Never let eye-witness reports get in the way of the facts you want people to know.

Yeah, because eyewitnesses who have never seen a surface-to-air missile are so much more reliable than radar and ship's logs.

/They don't create a streak of light at altitude; they just look like a glowing dot that doesn't appear to be moving that fast.

//If the Navy was going to lie about a shootdown, don't you think they'd have lied about this one?

///You people are idiots.



As Click and Clack like to say,  never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 
2013-07-03 10:26:49 AM
I don't have a dog in this hunt.... but I have a hard time believing that a federal agency would lie or cover up something that another federal agency wants covered up.  This is America, goddammit.  Or it was until a few years ago.  But still.
 
2013-07-03 10:27:06 AM
Borrrring. The new hotness in tinfoil land is that the government remotely hacked Michael Hastings car and crashed it on purpose.
 
2013-07-03 10:30:34 AM
While I don't agree with those who say it was a bomb or missile, if it  was a fuel tank explosion sparked by faulty wiring, why didn't they ground all Boeing 747-100's to check and see if they had the same problem?
 
2013-07-03 10:31:22 AM

vygramul: DubtodaIll: Never let eye-witness reports get in the way of the facts you want people to know.

Yes - so when people say the center threw a soccer ball to the short-stop to score a third wicket, we should immediately agree that eyewitness reports say it was a hockey game.

That's the problem with these eyewitness reports - they don't match a missile of any kind any more than the above matches any known hockey game.


The problem with the eyewitness reports is that none of them are from people who know what a missile strike looks like. They are basing there opinion that it was a missle strike on what they think a missle strike would look like which every expert said was wrong.
 
2013-07-03 10:38:10 AM
My 2 cents...
     I don't know what brought that bird down, but it wasn't a faulty wire in the center wing tank... Jet-A/B, JP-8 ect... has to be heated before its even introduced into the burner cans of a jet engine to be usable. the bird was already in the air for a short period of time at roughly -30F at altitude (approx. -3F loss for every 1000ft above MSL). very very cold.
 
2013-07-03 10:41:12 AM

ongbok: vygramul: DubtodaIll: Never let eye-witness reports get in the way of the facts you want people to know.

Yes - so when people say the center threw a soccer ball to the short-stop to score a third wicket, we should immediately agree that eyewitness reports say it was a hockey game.

That's the problem with these eyewitness reports - they don't match a missile of any kind any more than the above matches any known hockey game.

The problem with the eyewitness reports is that none of them are from people who know what a missile strike looks like. They are basing there opinion that it was a missle strike on what they think a missle strike would look like which every expert said was wrong.


That's pretty much my point.
 
2013-07-03 10:46:31 AM

flightmonkey88: I don't know what brought that bird down, but it wasn't a faulty wire in the center wing tank... Jet-A/B, JP-8 ect... has to be heated before its even introduced into the burner cans of a jet engine to be usable. the bird was already in the air for a short period of time at roughly -30F at altitude (approx. -3F loss for every 1000ft above MSL). very very cold.


It's supposed to be the vapor which ignited, not the liquid fuel.
 
2013-07-03 10:46:33 AM

flightmonkey88: My 2 cents...
     I don't know what brought that bird down, but it wasn't a faulty wire in the center wing tank... Jet-A/B, JP-8 ect... has to be heated before its even introduced into the burner cans of a jet engine to be usable. the bird was already in the air for a short period of time at roughly -30F at altitude (approx. -3F loss for every 1000ft above MSL). very very cold.


If you don't know what brought it down then how can you say it wasn't a faulty wire in the center wing fuel tank?
 
2013-07-03 10:48:04 AM
Not to say I buy into the missile theory, but I could have predicted most of the responses in this thread nearly verbatim.

I guess that's what happens when you're on fark long enough.
 
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