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(Reuters)   Bolivian president pissed we diverted his plane because we thought Snowden was on board. Investigators pissed because they were told Bolivian hookers were on board   (reuters.com ) divider line
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2013-07-03 09:26:42 AM  
I hope Snowden has a comfortable bunk at the airport. On a brighter note he has a good opportunity to learn Russian
 
2013-07-03 09:29:42 AM  

LasersHurt: To The Escape Zeppelin!: SpdrJay: Glass. Parking. Lot.

I don't like Austria either but that seems a little extreme.

Besides, the whole "glass" bit is predicated on the prevalence of sand.


Yup. Not much sand in the Outback.
 
2013-07-03 09:36:43 AM  
And here I was, thinking that such a thing called diplomatic immunity exists. Amazing that France, Italy ect. are so scared of a whistleblower flying over their country that they, without the US saying so *rollseys*, force the plane to land and even let it be searched.

If Bolivia didn't want to shelter the guy before, they have a reason to now.

Is it just me, or are the US completly off their meds? Filesharing? Raid! Hate speech? Drone strike!

But at least Bush and Cheney walk free and can visit any god damn country they like.
 
2013-07-03 09:41:14 AM  

lucksi: And here I was, thinking that such a thing called diplomatic immunity exists. Amazing that France, Italy ect. are so scared of a whistleblower flying over their country that they, without the US saying so *rollseys*, force the plane to land and even let it be searched.

If Bolivia didn't want to shelter the guy before, they have a reason to now.

Is it just me, or are the US completly off their meds? Filesharing? Raid! Hate speech? Drone strike!

But at least Bush and Cheney walk free and can visit any god damn country they like.


More or less.  I can see a few countries who have originally denied requests or claimed that Snowden needed to be on their territory for asylum change their minds.  It would be funny if Snowden pops up in Venezuela after this kerfluffle.
 
2013-07-03 09:45:06 AM  
came for the Bolivian hooker pics........
 
2013-07-03 09:48:30 AM  

aardwolf: Do you Americans on FARK actually read your posts? To the whole english speaking world FARK seems entirely composed of NSA sock puppets, fascists, nationalistic racist, religious nut cases and warmongering hate filled retrogrades... as a reader for 10 years from London UK, FARK used to have an attractive freedom loving, progressive commentariat. However, the events of the last few months have shown FARK and by extension the rest of the US population as deeply ignorant of the world, the nature of freedom and having completely sleepwalked into fascism.... My country the U.K. is obviously just as bad, however, at least our Guardian newspaper reveals, that whilst our politicians are lapdog slaves to the US, at least some of our people still believe in freedom...FARK's readership appears to have deteriorated very rapidly...However, I at least hold some hope for the US as at least it was an American journalist Glenn and an American spy Edward that revealed the totalitarian world we live in...even if they needed a British newspaper to tell the world...

FARK I am disappointed...


FARK is hardly an accurate reflection of the American public, but yeah, I've noticed the sheer volume of jadedness go way up.

An American citizen saying, "Of COURSE our government illegally spies on everyone and everything!  I'm totally cool with that" makes me believe that all the constant fearmongering has made some people into mewling cowards who are too scared to even for a moment consider the gravity of what they're saying, and what they're giving up with nothing but a shrug.
 
2013-07-03 10:04:14 AM  

LasersHurt: To The Escape Zeppelin!: SpdrJay: Glass. Parking. Lot.

I don't like Austria either but that seems a little extreme.

Besides, the whole "glass" bit is predicated on the prevalence of sand.


Given enough conventional explosives first, everythings gets reduced to sand.
 
2013-07-03 10:07:21 AM  

MythDragon: LasersHurt: To The Escape Zeppelin!: SpdrJay: Glass. Parking. Lot.

I don't like Austria either but that seems a little extreme.

Besides, the whole "glass" bit is predicated on the prevalence of sand.

Given enough conventional explosives first, everythings gets reduced to sand.


But not transmogrified into Silica.
 
2013-07-03 10:11:59 AM  

rocky_howard: They don't need proof to make the accusation. It's ridiculous to even suggest otherwise. Imagine if cops couldn't arrest you unless they had proof.


Actualy that sounds pretty farking ideal.

/♫Imagine if cops couldn't arrest you unless they had proof. It's easy if you try. No pigs tasing us, just at a diner, eating pie. Imagine all the people liiiiiiiiiving for todaaaaaaay!♪
 
2013-07-03 10:13:36 AM  

LasersHurt: So they continue to say "THE US DIVERTED THE PLANE" even though there is, as of yet, no evidence of that?


I bet you're baffled by those pictures where you draw by the numbers.
 
2013-07-03 10:14:48 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: LasersHurt: So they continue to say "THE US DIVERTED THE PLANE" even though there is, as of yet, no evidence of that?

I bet you're baffled by those pictures where you draw by the numbers.


Fark me for wanting proof of things before reacting too harshly, right?

/actually since the Snowden thing broke that's almost exactly what I've been told
 
2013-07-03 10:19:04 AM  

aardwolf: Do you Americans on FARK actually read your posts? To the whole english speaking world FARK seems entirely composed of NSA sock puppets, fascists, nationalistic racist, religious nut cases and warmongering hate filled retrogrades... as a reader for 10 years from London UK, FARK used to have an attractive freedom loving, progressive commentariat. However, the events of the last few months have shown FARK and by extension the rest of the US population as deeply ignorant of the world, the nature of freedom and having completely sleepwalked into fascism.... My country the U.K. is obviously just as bad, however, at least our Guardian newspaper reveals, that whilst our politicians are lapdog slaves to the US, at least some of our people still believe in freedom...FARK's readership appears to have deteriorated very rapidly...However, I at least hold some hope for the US as at least it was an American journalist Glenn and an American spy Edward that revealed the totalitarian world we live in...even if they needed a British newspaper to tell the world...

FARK I am disappointed...


Hey, I'm still here.

I'm pretty sure some of these people (not naming names) are being paid by either the government or political organizations to spread their filthy ideas all over our community.

You know who you are.
 
2013-07-03 10:20:26 AM  

aardwolf: Do you Americans on FARK actually read your posts? To the whole english speaking world FARK seems entirely composed of NSA sock puppets, fascists, nationalistic racist, religious nut cases and warmongering hate filled retrogrades... as a reader for 10 years from London UK, FARK used to have an attractive freedom loving, progressive commentariat. However, the events of the last few months have shown FARK and by extension the rest of the US population as deeply ignorant of the world, the nature of freedom and having completely sleepwalked into fascism.... My country the U.K. is obviously just as bad, however, at least our Guardian newspaper reveals, that whilst our politicians are lapdog slaves to the US, at least some of our people still believe in freedom...FARK's readership appears to have deteriorated very rapidly...However, I at least hold some hope for the US as at least it was an American journalist Glenn and an American spy Edward that revealed the totalitarian world we live in...even if they needed a British newspaper to tell the world...

FARK I am disappointed...


We have too many people who don't want to believe it so they jump and any chance to discredit the whistleblowers.

America is the land of "Choose your own reality".
 
2013-07-03 11:12:02 AM  

LewDux: Reroutings will continue until Morales improves




This is what makes Fark great, but it's getting lost in this mess of a thread.
 
2013-07-03 11:41:59 AM  
So we are now forcing presidential planes to land to try and get this single guy? (assuming that indeed they closed the airspace of those countries to that plane). I don't remember such actions being taken even for the worst criminals. I can only imagine the world reaction if such action had resulted in a plane crash. This thing looks more and more like a Bourne movie to me and not because of Snowden being a "hero" but because of the desperation of the U.S. government to catch it (again, if the story the Bolivians say is true).
 
2013-07-03 11:44:12 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Hey, I'm still here.

I'm pretty sure some of these people (not naming names) are being paid by either the government or political organizations to spread their filthy ideas all over our community.

You know who you are.


Seconded.
 
2013-07-03 12:02:40 PM  

LewDux: Reroutings will continue until Morales improves


+1
 
2013-07-03 12:08:17 PM  

lucksi: And here I was, thinking that such a thing called diplomatic immunity exists. Amazing that France, Italy ect. are so scared of a whistleblower flying over their country that they, without the US saying so *rollseys*, force the plane to land and even let it be searched.

If Bolivia didn't want to shelter the guy before, they have a reason to now.

Is it just me, or are the US completly off their meds? Filesharing? Raid! Hate speech? Drone strike!

But at least Bush and Cheney walk free and can visit any god damn country they like.


Anything to distract the population and keep them in a tizzy over something inconsequential.
 
2013-07-03 01:43:55 PM  

jakomo002: aardwolf: Do you Americans on FARK actually read your posts? To the whole english speaking world FARK seems entirely composed of NSA sock puppets, fascists, nationalistic racist, religious nut cases and warmongering hate filled retrogrades... as a reader for 10 years from London UK, FARK used to have an attractive freedom loving, progressive commentariat. However, the events of the last few months have shown FARK and by extension the rest of the US population as deeply ignorant of the world, the nature of freedom and having completely sleepwalked into fascism.... My country the U.K. is obviously just as bad, however, at least our Guardian newspaper reveals, that whilst our politicians are lapdog slaves to the US, at least some of our people still believe in freedom...FARK's readership appears to have deteriorated very rapidly...However, I at least hold some hope for the US as at least it was an American journalist Glenn and an American spy Edward that revealed the totalitarian world we live in...even if they needed a British newspaper to tell the world...

FARK I am disappointed...

FARK is hardly an accurate reflection of the American public, but yeah, I've noticed the sheer volume of jadedness go way up.

An American citizen saying, "Of COURSE our government illegally spies on everyone and everything!  I'm totally cool with that" makes me believe that all the constant fearmongering has made some people into mewling cowards who are too scared to even for a moment consider the gravity of what they're saying, and what they're giving up with nothing but a shrug.


You do realize that there's a middle ground right? As in: No, spying is not all right, but revealing state secrets is not all right either.
 
2013-07-03 02:58:36 PM  
Coming on a Bicycle:

You do realize that there's a middle ground right? As in: No, spying is not all right, but revealing state secrets is not all right either.

Why? If the state has nothing to hide, then it has nothing to fear, right?
 
2013-07-03 03:03:09 PM  

lucksi: And here I was, thinking that such a thing called diplomatic immunity exists. Amazing that France, Italy ect. are so scared of a whistleblower flying over their country that they, without the US saying so *rollseys*, force the plane to land and even let it be searched.

If Bolivia didn't want to shelter the guy before, they have a reason to now.

Is it just me, or are the US completly off their meds? Filesharing? Raid! Hate speech? Drone strike!

But at least Bush and Cheney walk free and can visit any god damn country they like.


I seldom agree with you, but you're right. We (the US government) overstepped. Our government is a gang of international bullies. If we fail, it will not be pretty. We're not making friends with this situation.
 
2013-07-03 07:28:30 PM  
 
2013-07-03 07:58:08 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-07-03 08:16:06 PM  

studebaker hoch: France has decided to apologize rather than fight over what happened.


Looks like we can add most of Latin America to Russia and China in terms of the nations we've pissed off over Snowden. Who's next, I wonder?
 
2013-07-03 09:48:53 PM  
The Numbers

studebaker hoch: France has decided to apologize rather than fight over what happened.

Looks like we can add most of Latin America to Russia and China in terms of the nations we've pissed off over Snowden. Who's next, I wonder?


I'm thinking one of those one-way trips to Mars is about all he has left.
 
2013-07-03 10:20:14 PM  

aardwolf: Do you Americans on FARK actually read your posts? To the whole english speaking world FARK seems entirely composed of NSA sock puppets, fascists, nationalistic racist, religious nut cases and warmongering hate filled retrogrades... as a reader for 10 years from London UK, FARK used to have an attractive freedom loving, progressive commentariat. However, the events of the last few months have shown FARK and by extension the rest of the US population as deeply ignorant of the world, the nature of freedom and having completely sleepwalked into fascism.... My country the U.K. is obviously just as bad, however, at least our Guardian newspaper reveals, that whilst our politicians are lapdog slaves to the US, at least some of our people still believe in freedom...FARK's readership appears to have deteriorated very rapidly...However, I at least hold some hope for the US as at least it was an American journalist Glenn and an American spy Edward that revealed the totalitarian world we live in...even if they needed a British newspaper to tell the world...

FARK I am disappointed...


Plenty of lurkers (since 2003, signed up in 2006).  Actually, in most of these threads, I've noticed a healthy debate on either side.  Could be the six hour difference across the pond.
 
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