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2013-07-03 09:21:59 AM
but, but...minorities vote for people of their same ethnicity blindly and without question!!!  Right?
 
2013-07-03 09:24:11 AM
Mexicans love Marc Rubio because he's one of them.  If was working his campaign, I would organize a Marc Rubio Latino Outreach throughout the Southwest and serve traditional latino nachos from a food truck.  I would bring along a mariachi band and some of those women with fruit on their heads to really make it authentic Mexican.  We could get J. Lo to do some Tejano music.  They love that.
 
2013-07-03 09:25:30 AM
It's almost like there is a strong hierarchy in Hispanic culture created through 500 years of conquest and pillaging that would keep a man of Cuban descent from winning an state-wide election outside of the state of Florida.
 
2013-07-03 09:26:57 AM

Rapmaster2000: Mexicans love Marc Rubio because he's one of them.  If was working his campaign, I would organize a Marc Rubio Latino Outreach throughout the Southwest and serve traditional latino nachos from a food truck.  I would bring along a mariachi band and some of those women with fruit on their heads to really make it authentic Mexican.  We could get J. Lo to do some Tejano music.  They love that.


I can see the ad campaign now. "I pick tomatoes and I pick Rubio!"
 
2013-07-03 09:30:29 AM

Tarl3k: but, but...minorities vote for people of their same ethnicity blindly and without question!!!  Right?


If only the GOP had nominated Herman Cain then all of the libs and blacks who only voted for Obama because they are racist would be totally confused.  They would be like "TWO black guys?!  I don't know what to do!  The Hermanator's Cain Train is coming on like a Hermacain so I guess I'll vote for that black."

The Hermanatrix would have won by a landslide.
 
2013-07-03 09:30:51 AM
www.slate.com
"How can I convince these fence jumpers I'm one of them..?"
 
2013-07-03 09:31:44 AM
By the time the House Republicans are done "debating" the immigration bill, the Democrats will be ensured an even larger portion of the Hispanic vote and Rubio will have been so viciously attacked by his own party members that he won't have a chance in the primaries. Santorum is already attacking Rubio on the issue.
 
2013-07-03 09:32:15 AM
A high visibility candidate beat a fairly newcomer in a pole 3 years out from an election.... y'a dont say.
 
2013-07-03 09:34:01 AM
Mitt Romney might have been one of the most uniquely unlikable candidates in this country's history, but he could at least take a sip of water without making everyone cringe.
 
2013-07-03 09:37:57 AM
Viva El Palin!
 
2013-07-03 09:38:32 AM

Poopspasm: Mitt Romney might have been one of the most uniquely unlikable candidates in this country's history, but he could at least take a sip of water without making everyone cringe.


Not lemonade, though. He totally botched that one.
 
2013-07-03 09:40:01 AM

Saiga410: A high visibility candidate beat a fairly newcomer in a pole 3 years out from an election.... y'a dont say.


there are so many things to make fun of about your post, I don't even know where to start...
 
2013-07-03 09:45:48 AM

Tarl3k: but, but...minorities vote for people of their same ethnicity blindly and without question!!! Right?


A fair number of them don't even know who he is.
 
2013-07-03 09:46:37 AM

Epoch_Zero: "How can I convince these fence jumpers I'm one of them..?"


holy farking shiat lol
 
2013-07-03 09:50:42 AM

Tarl3k: but, but...minorities vote for people of their same ethnicity blindly and without question!!!  Right?



I'm told all you need to do to get Democratic votes is be a minority or a woman, or give people free stuff.
 
2013-07-03 10:06:42 AM
FTA: In several polls, including some by  Fox News Latino, likely Latino voters said they felt that Republicans had addressed issues of concern to them with hostility and insensitivity.

Uh, do you think so?

/Marco Rubio's being Hispanic is as politically useful as Alan Keyes being black.
 
2013-07-03 10:15:37 AM
Rubio, table for one. This way, sir...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-03 10:20:35 AM

AliceBToklasLives: FTA: In several polls, including some by  Fox News Latino, likely Latino voters said they felt that Republicans had addressed issues of concern to them with hostility and insensitivity.

Uh, do you think so?

/Marco Rubio's being Hispanic is as politically useful as Alan Keyes being black.



Good thing you didn't say Herman Cain, or Michael Steele, cause being black was certainly useful to them.
 
2013-07-03 10:51:29 AM
Maybe it has more to do with GOP branding of Latinos as parasites.
 
2013-07-03 10:53:31 AM
"Here I am, rock you like a Hermancain!"

/9-9-9
 
2013-07-03 10:55:44 AM
I spend a chunk of my week among latinos of questionable immigration status and I gotta say Marco Rubio is hardly the latino he pretends to be. He might have an actual meso-american in his blood line but that's a minority in his case.
 
2013-07-03 10:56:15 AM
Most Latinos in the US are Mexican. Rubio is Cuban. Mexicans don't give a fark about Cubans.

Yes that's a broad brush stroke, but it's pretty close to the truth.
 
2013-07-03 11:19:35 AM

Tarl3k: but, but...minorities vote for people of their same ethnicity blindly and without question!!!  Right?


That's why women turned out in droves to vote for Palin. Herman Cain and Alan Keyes also pulled in a lot of the black vote, too.
 
Bf+
2013-07-03 12:12:31 PM

Poopspasm: Mitt Romney might have been one of the most uniquely unlikable candidates in this country's history, but he could at least take a sip of water without making everyone cringe.


oi45.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-03 12:27:21 PM
News flash.. "Hispanics/ Latinos " dont like cubans...
 
2013-07-03 12:32:13 PM

Bf+: Poopspasm: Mitt Romney might have been one of the most uniquely unlikable candidates in this country's history, but he could at least take a sip of water without making everyone cringe.

[oi45.tinypic.com image 480x360]


Every time I see a picture from this interview, I cringe. The dude put on the equivalent of blackface, basically! In 2012! What the hell?
 
2013-07-03 01:00:04 PM

Smelly McUgly: Bf+: Poopspasm: Mitt Romney might have been one of the most uniquely unlikable candidates in this country's history, but he could at least take a sip of water without making everyone cringe.

[oi45.tinypic.com image 480x360]

Every time I see a picture from this interview, I cringe. The dude put on the equivalent of blackface, basically! In 2012! What the hell?


Well, to be fair, the GOP is still living in the 1950s.
 
2013-07-03 01:17:33 PM
I can't understand why people who were big Batista supporters aren't loved more.
 
2013-07-03 01:49:30 PM

Rapmaster2000: Mexicans love Marc Rubio because he's one of them.  If was working his campaign, I would organize a Marc Rubio Latino Outreach throughout the Southwest and serve traditional latino nachos from a food truck.  I would bring along a mariachi band and some of those women with fruit on their heads to really make it authentic Mexican.  We could get J. Lo to do some Tejano music.  They love that.


You're like a ninja or something.

NIN-JA. I said "ninja". Not that other word.
/I need to watch  The Jerk again soon, it's been years
 
2013-07-03 01:49:52 PM

Tarl3k: Saiga410: A high visibility candidate beat a fairly newcomer in a pole 3 years out from an election.... y'a dont say.

there are so many things to make fun of about your post, I don't even know where to start...


Ooh, Ooh, I do!

Favorable/unfavorable:

Hilary: +56
Biden: +37
Rubio: +2

The Latino community doesn't like him.
 
2013-07-03 01:55:07 PM

N4LG4s: News flash.. "Hispanics/ Latinos " dont like cubans...


Cubans generally are Latinos, sometimes of Hispanic descent. Do you mean there is generally not a lot of love lost between Cubans and other Latinos?
/don't discuss racial things if you don't know the difference between Latino and Hispanic, and who makes up both groups
//yes there is a shiatload of overlap between Latinos and Hispanics
 
2013-07-03 02:15:27 PM

Jackpot777: Rubio, table for one. This way, sir...

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Many of us brown folks call guys like him "Tio Tacos." :)

The DBS: Most Latinos in the US are Mexican. Rubio is Cuban. Mexicans don't give a fark about Cubans.

Yes that's a broad brush stroke, but it's pretty close to the truth.


This, mainly because Cubans who come to the U.S. without papers are welcomed by the GOP with open arms, while Mexicans who do the same are treated like shiat.
 
2013-07-03 02:16:08 PM
Ok people. The animosity among latinos can be explained:

Cubans hate on other latinos.

Puerto Ricans: They are already U.S. citizens. They hate on Cubans.
 
2013-07-03 02:37:38 PM
It's awesome that people like Marco Rubio, whose family benefited from centuries of racial oppression in Cuba, can come to America and benefit from affirmative action programs designed to address the same injustices that they themselves benefited from.  Meanwhile, the son of a dirt poor Cambodian who comes here is shut out of Harvard because they have too many Asians already.  What a great system.
 
2013-07-03 02:37:46 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: N4LG4s: News flash.. "Hispanics/ Latinos " dont like cubans...

Cubans generally are Latinos, sometimes of Hispanic descent. Do you mean there is generally not a lot of love lost between Cubans and other Latinos?
/don't discuss racial things if you don't know the difference between Latino and Hispanic, and who makes up both groups
//yes there is a shiatload of overlap between Latinos and Hispanics


Saying Hispanics don't like Cubans is the same as saying Americans don't like Texans.  Your pedantry is misplaced it seems.
 
2013-07-03 02:49:03 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Rapmaster2000: Mexicans love Marc Rubio because he's one of them.  If was working his campaign, I would organize a Marc Rubio Latino Outreach throughout the Southwest and serve traditional latino nachos from a food truck.  I would bring along a mariachi band and some of those women with fruit on their heads to really make it authentic Mexican.  We could get J. Lo to do some Tejano music.  They love that.

You're like a ninja or something.

NIN-JA. I said "ninja". Not that other word.
/I need to watch  The Jerk again soon, it's been years


Is that pronounced NEEN-ha in Hispanic?
 
2013-07-03 03:14:14 PM

manimal2878: Crotchrocket Slim: N4LG4s: News flash.. "Hispanics/ Latinos " dont like cubans...

Cubans generally are Latinos, sometimes of Hispanic descent. Do you mean there is generally not a lot of love lost between Cubans and other Latinos?
/don't discuss racial things if you don't know the difference between Latino and Hispanic, and who makes up both groups
//yes there is a shiatload of overlap between Latinos and Hispanics

Saying Hispanics don't like Cubans is the same as saying Americans don't like Texans.  Your pedantry is misplaced it seems.


A Hispanic is someone of direct Spanish descent; not all Cubans are descended from Spaniards (though as far as I know all Cubans and damn near all Hispanics identify as Latinos, but the terms are not interchangeable) while some Cubans are indeed Hispanic (read up on the history of Cuba). What you're saying is the equivalent of saying that all white people are Scandinavians or something else equally lazy and ignorant. You don't know a thing.

And things are not all roses and sunshine between various Latino groups. Really I think the only thing that unifies Latinos is how annoying they find Anglophonic Western culture (not even all Latin American nations speak Spanish as a primary language either).
 
2013-07-03 03:22:34 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: manimal2878: Crotchrocket Slim: N4LG4s: News flash.. "Hispanics/ Latinos " dont like cubans...

Cubans generally are Latinos, sometimes of Hispanic descent. Do you mean there is generally not a lot of love lost between Cubans and other Latinos?
/don't discuss racial things if you don't know the difference between Latino and Hispanic, and who makes up both groups
//yes there is a shiatload of overlap between Latinos and Hispanics

Saying Hispanics don't like Cubans is the same as saying Americans don't like Texans.  Your pedantry is misplaced it seems.

A Hispanic is someone of direct Spanish descent; not all Cubans are descended from Spaniards (though as far as I know all Cubans and damn near all Hispanics identify as Latinos, but the terms are not interchangeable) while some Cubans are indeed Hispanic (read up on the history of Cuba). What you're saying is the equivalent of saying that all white people are Scandinavians or something else equally lazy and ignorant. You don't know a thing.

And things are not all roses and sunshine between various Latino groups. Really I think the only thing that unifies Latinos is how annoying they find Anglophonic Western culture (not even all Latin American nations speak Spanish as a primary language either).


BTW one of the reasons I'm so hammering this so much is half the reason the GOP's outreach fails is they do think of Latinos as a unified culture instead of a several groups of Spanish and Portuguese speakers with many conflicting interests (witness how much animosity there tends to be between Mexicans and Cubans).
 
2013-07-03 03:56:38 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: A Hispanic is... blah blah blah  a bunch of wrong

You are incorrect.

Definition of HISPANIC1: of or relating to the people, speech, or culture of Spain or of Spain and Portugal 2: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin
 
2013-07-03 04:17:12 PM

manimal2878: Crotchrocket Slim: A Hispanic is... blah blah blah  a bunch of wrong
You are incorrect.

Definition of HISPANIC1: of or relating to the people, speech, or culture of Spain or of Spain and Portugal 2: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin


That's not the definition of the words I've heard from the people the words actually describe, I'm thinking some egghead needs to get out and actually find out how the word is used outside of a Klan meeting. In any case your definitions don't take away from the fact that "Latinos" or "Hispanics" covers Cubans too, and that Cubans and Mexicans have different priorities and interests politically speaking so trying a one-size fits all approach or running a token Cuban-Canadian-American to try to appeal to Cubans AND Mexicans AND Puerto Ricans AND Chileans AND (you get the point) is farking retarded.
 
2013-07-03 04:26:26 PM
It's pretty dead at work given that it's a day before the 4th of July so I have nothing better to do than to look up definitions too... and I'll actually provide a citation.


A simple way of remembering the difference is this:though every Latino is a Hispanic, not every Hispanic is a Latino.Hispanic is themore inclusive term.

For the purposes of this contemporary usage, these are the definitions used:

Hispanic:a person of Latin American or Iberian ancestry, fluent in Spanish. It is primarily used along the Eastern seaboard, and favored by those ofCaribbean and South American ancestry or origin.English or Spanish can be their "native" language.

Latino:a U.S.-born Hispanic who is not fluent in Spanish and is engaged in social empowerment through Identity Politics. "Latino" is principally used west of theMississippi, where it has displaced "Chicano" and "Mexican American." English is probably their "native" language. "Empowerment" refers to increasing the political, social, and spiritual strength of an individual or a community, and it is associated with the development of confidence of that individual or community in their own abilities.

Latin:an abbreviation for "Latin American," or "Latinoamericano" in Spanish (written as one word), a Latin is a person who was born in Latin America and migrated to theUnited States. Regardless of his or her immigration status, a Latin is a foreign-born worker for whom English is a "foreign" language and who lacks the cultural fluency taken for granted by those born and raised in theUnited States. Spanish, Portuguese, or an indigenous language is their "native" language.

These words are not interchangeable, notwithstanding what Hispanic and Latino groups might want to mislead themselves into thinking. The following sentence is true: Hispanic culture had a huge impact on Aztec society. The following sentence is false: Latino culture had a huge impact on Aztec society.


I was a little unclear as to their usage outside of the US but the terms Latino and Hispanic are not the same thing... close but not the same.

Identity politics is an obnoxious and ultimately unproductive thing; can we at least agree on that?
 
2013-07-03 04:30:10 PM
The poor GOP must be so confused. He's brown and both of his names end in a vowel, so what's the problems? Won't all the other brown people whose names end in a vowel vote for him just because of that? It can't be that they're smart enough to listen to what the party and the candidates are saying and decide based on that. People who weren't born in America aren't smart. We know this because they don't speak English. Jeeze, what do we have to do to get votes?

/both names end in a vowel
//not Hispanic or Latino
///Italian, FTW
 
2013-07-03 04:46:09 PM
FTA: In several polls, including some by Fox News Latino, likely Latino voters said they felt that Republicans had addressed issues of concern to them with hostility and insensitivity.
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Heh. Yep! That's republicans for ya.
 
2013-07-03 05:15:49 PM

manimal2878: Saying Hispanics don't like Cubans is the same as saying Americans don't like Texans.  Your pedantry is misplaced it seems.


No, that sounds about right.
 
2013-07-03 10:44:14 PM
www.bartcop.com

/caliente
 
2013-07-03 11:21:04 PM

Tarl3k: Saiga410: A high visibility candidate beat a fairly newcomer in a pole 3 years out from an election.... y'a dont say.

there are so many things to make fun of about your post, I don't even know where to start...


I count 7.
 
2013-07-04 07:16:00 PM
Dating back to Regan there was their theory that Mexican (hispanic) and from other south American countries (latinos) are to some degree, cultural conservatives.  It probably dates back to this Nixon quote.

The Mexicans are a different cup of tea. They have a heritage. At the present time they steal, they're dishonest, but they do have some concept of family life. They don't live like a bunch of dogs...[quote appended to not threadjack]

I don't see how people are going to get latinos/hispanics to vote republican even with a non-anglo candidate, if they keep on sucking the dicks of white cultural conservatives and pushing the party to the right.

To those not sure about Mitt and his connection to Mexico, check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpIyaIHsJbc
 
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