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(Network World)   FARK joins civil rights groups and other major websites in the July 4 protest against NSA surveillance   (networkworld.com) divider line 271
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2013-07-03 02:03:43 AM
Fun!

i just wish someone cared enough to spy on me.
 
2013-07-03 02:11:43 AM

Confabulat: Fun!

i just wish someone cared enough to spy on me.


Seriously

/we should proclaim it "Bore a NSA agent to suicide day"
//I could easily take out 3 or 4
 
2013-07-03 02:14:57 AM
While this is good,  I wish there had been planned protests in front of the White House demanding Obama's action.
 
2013-07-03 02:21:07 AM
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 
2013-07-03 02:25:37 AM
Good. It's gone way too far. We've done a lot of stupid shiat because 9/11 caught us with our pants down, but we passed enough is enough long ago, we're America dammit.
 
2013-07-03 02:28:34 AM
SOPA Blackout Deux? Unlike SOPA however, NSA will just order drone strikes to all who fail to obey.
 
2013-07-03 02:30:20 AM

eddievercetti: SOPA Blackout Deux? Unlike SOPA however, NSA will just order drone strikes to all who fail to obey.


Note to self: buy Lockheed
 
2013-07-03 02:43:33 AM
Mozilla is a major website?
 
2013-07-03 02:45:35 AM
We do?
 
2013-07-03 02:45:37 AM
I'd be curious to know how many people join/joined these protests because of what other people told them.  This shiat is entirely blown out of proportion and a number of folks are utilizing common fears to make their appeals.
 
2013-07-03 02:47:45 AM

Confabulat: Fun!

i just wish someone cared enough to spy on me.


I'll spy on you.

Maybe we can get something going on Facebook and pair people up to spy on each other.
 
2013-07-03 02:50:04 AM
Cheezburger? Seriously?
So they'll see what 4chan does and try to monetize it? fark those assholes
 
2013-07-03 02:50:05 AM
LOL.
What is a protest going to do?
Are you going to beg the gov't to turn in their equipment and hope that cleans it up?
The skidmarks are way deep in the Underoos, folks.
 
2013-07-03 02:50:28 AM
That's nice, but where was this level of outcry in 2006 when the story was first reported?
 
2013-07-03 02:50:30 AM

GreatGlavinsGhost: Confabulat: Fun!

i just wish someone cared enough to spy on me.

I'll spy on you.

Maybe we can get something going on Facebook and pair people up to spy on each other.


Hell, we could probably start a subscription service....

/wait a minute...
//mods, please delete this comment
 
2013-07-03 02:50:55 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Mozilla is a major website?


Firefox is one of the top three web browsers, so yes.
 
2013-07-03 02:51:05 AM
I wish they would have warned me before I logged in.
 
2013-07-03 02:51:59 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: GreatGlavinsGhost: Confabulat: Fun!

i just wish someone cared enough to spy on me.

I'll spy on you.

Maybe we can get something going on Facebook and pair people up to spy on each other.


What?

Are you just agreeing with what I said? I'm not seeing your comment if you left one.
 
2013-07-03 02:53:18 AM
Oh yeah, this will make the NSA change their ways!
 
2013-07-03 02:53:38 AM
If the Republicans in power weren't as corrupt as the Democrats in power, they would try and pin Obama to the wall for the next four years with the NSA scandal.

Presumably a pro gun rights party, because guns are needed to overthrow a tyrannical government, should be strong on the 4th amendment, 5th amendment and against government spying on its citizens (except of course in the bedroom because sodomy).

And unlike Benghazi, they would probably get a lot of support for that.
 
2013-07-03 02:58:43 AM
got a bad feeling.
 
2013-07-03 03:00:25 AM
Protest for a day..big flipping whoop
 
2013-07-03 03:01:35 AM

Mock26: Oh yeah, this will make the NSA change their ways!


You have a better idea genius? We're listening.
 
2013-07-03 03:03:16 AM

RoyBatty: If the Republicans in power weren't as corrupt as the Democrats in power, they would try and pin Obama to the wall for the next four years with the NSA scandal.

Presumably a pro gun rights party, because guns are needed to overthrow a tyrannical government, should be strong on the 4th amendment, 5th amendment and against government spying on its citizens (except of course in the bedroom because sodomy).

And unlike Benghazi, they would probably get a lot of support for that.


Since when did you start making sense?

Also, this has taken too long to get everyone worked up.

Now that they've been doing it this long they will never give up the power.
 
2013-07-03 03:03:32 AM

bluorangefyre: That's nice, but where was this level of outcry in 2006 when the story was first reported?


big farking this. Also:
 
2013-07-03 03:03:35 AM
Oh look. A virtual protest. Because that's going to change anything.

This isn't standing up against legislation like SOPA. This is a fait accompli.It's already done.

The war is over, and freedom lost. The only option to restore it- TRULY restore it- is not an option Americans can stomach.

The American experiment, for all intents and purposes, is over. Now we enter the decline of empire. Enjoy it. Decadence does have its benefits.
 
2013-07-03 03:04:13 AM
www.faithvillage.com
 
2013-07-03 03:04:22 AM

RoyBatty: If the Republicans in power weren't as corrupt as the Democrats in power, they would try and pin Obama to the wall for the next four years with the NSA scandal.

Presumably a pro gun rights party, because guns are needed to overthrow a tyrannical government, should be strong on the 4th amendment, 5th amendment and against government spying on its citizens (except of course in the bedroom because sodomy).

And unlike Benghazi, they would probably get a lot of support for that.


Guns? Lmao.

Unless they are mounted on A-10s, which I doubt you mean.

/still laughing
 
2013-07-03 03:10:33 AM
libranoelrose: RoyBatty: If the Republicans in power weren't as corrupt as the Democrats in power, they would try and pin Obama to the wall for the next four years with the NSA scandal.

Presumably a pro gun rights party, because guns are needed to overthrow a tyrannical government, should be strong on the 4th amendment, 5th amendment and against government spying on its citizens (except of course in the bedroom because sodomy).

And unlike Benghazi, they would probably get a lot of support for that.

Since when did you start making sense?


No worries, I am sure you will find things to disagree with tomorrow.

Also, this has taken too long to get everyone worked up.

Now that they've been doing it this long they will never give up the power.


I think this is true which is why protests like these need to have bodies in front of the White House and Congressional offices, not just banners on websites.
 
2013-07-03 03:12:12 AM

DeathByGeekSquad: I'd be curious to know how many people join/joined these protests because of what other people told them.


That and people who are just plain clueless.  The idea that someone is reading your email is just silly.  There are an estimated 89 billion emails per day sent.  Projected to be over 100 billion per day by next year.  And that, btw, is just a tiny fraction of all internet traffic. No one is reading your email (probably not even your intended recipient), no  one is watching you download porn.  You aren't that special.  This is THE biggest clueless outrage over very little in a while.
 
2013-07-03 03:12:32 AM

RoyBatty: I think this is true which is why protests like these need to have bodies in front of the White House and Congressional offices, not just banners on websites


You could get half a million people on the National Mall and it'd mean exactly two things- jack and shiat.
 
2013-07-03 03:13:08 AM
Good on you Fark, who-ever you are.
 
2013-07-03 03:13:31 AM
Websites participating include Reddit, where Restore the Fourth originated, WordPress, 4chan, Mozilla, Fark and Cheezburger.com.

Well clearly, the Department of Defense shall take note of such an august assemblage of titans of industry. DNI Clapper never does anything without seeking advice from 4chan pedos and photos of cats with intentionally misspelled captions.
 
2013-07-03 03:13:50 AM
Can someone explain to me how what NSA is doing is more invasive than what we willingly surrender to Google all day long?
 
2013-07-03 03:13:57 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: DeathByGeekSquad: I'd be curious to know how many people join/joined these protests because of what other people told them.

That and people who are just plain clueless.  The idea that someone is reading your email is just silly.  There are an estimated 89 billion emails per day sent.  Projected to be over 100 billion per day by next year.  And that, btw, is just a tiny fraction of all internet traffic. No one is reading your email (probably not even your intended recipient), no  one is watching you download porn.  You aren't that special.  This is THE biggest clueless outrage over very little in a while.


The issue is not that they ARE. It is that they CAN.

You don't understand your rights enough to miss them, or really even notice they're gone.
 
2013-07-03 03:15:10 AM
Yeah right I go along with this and the next thing I know the NSA is sending my mom copies of my Chinese midget donkey fisting porn....
 
2013-07-03 03:15:51 AM

randomjsa: Mock26: Oh yeah, this will make the NSA change their ways!

You have a better idea genius? We're listening.

?


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-03 03:15:54 AM

RoyBatty: While this is good,  I wish there had been planned protests in front of the White House demanding Obama's action.


The who's in the what now?
 
2013-07-03 03:16:20 AM
Thanks, Drew.

This is an issue that has polarized users and it would be simpler for you to just sit back and not take a position which potentially risks some TF revenue.
 
2013-07-03 03:18:39 AM

quickdraw: Can someone explain to me how what NSA is doing is more invasive than what we willingly surrender to Google all day long?


The Googles promises not to be evil?

/we really shouldn't have to be subjected to either one, in a perfect world
//capitalism and fascism seem to be merging rapidly, though
 
2013-07-03 03:19:14 AM
memeguy.com
 
2013-07-03 03:19:18 AM

bluorangefyre: That's nice, but where was this level of outcry in 2006 when the story was first reported?


I followed this pretty closely at the time, and then it didn't provoke this kind of reaction. All it did was turn a blatantly illegal warrentless wiretapping program into a rubberstamped-by-FISA every three months program that has at least some oversight. Even if it's legal--and I'll leave that answer to Constitutional experts--it violates the spirit of the 4th Amendment.
 
2013-07-03 03:24:04 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Mozilla is a major website?


Given the amount of bytes they push out for downloads and updates to Firefox and Thunderbird, yes (if you use "website" loosely)
 
2013-07-03 03:24:13 AM
Nothing short of the deaths of many who are involved at the upper levels will have any effect.  Either that or the deaths of their families.  Either one will be fine as long as things turn away from the gestapo so many seem to want.
 
2013-07-03 03:25:57 AM
Install a Tor or I2P non exit relay, turn them up a bit, make sure they're open and can relay data, and then do nothing with them but let them relay data for others.

Add to the noise a little.
 
2013-07-03 03:28:06 AM
Posting encrypted random content (bonus for destroying the private key afterwards) in various places will keep the NSA computers from getting lonely... since they seem to class "accidental" collection from US citizens OK to retain for 5 years, just as they do if they think there's "evidence of a crime"

Let's fill up that new data center in Utah with encrypted lolcats.
 
2013-07-03 03:30:09 AM

AndreMA: Posting encrypted random content (bonus for destroying the private key afterwards) in various places will keep the NSA computers from getting lonely... since they seem to class "accidental" collection of encrypted content from US citizens OK to retain for 5 years, just as they do if they think there's "evidence of a crime"

Let's fill up that new data center in Utah with encrypted lolcats.


FTFM
 
2013-07-03 03:31:23 AM

quickdraw: Can someone explain to me how what NSA is doing is more invasive than what we willingly surrender to Google all day long?


We can choose not to use Google?
 
2013-07-03 03:32:17 AM
So, what's Fark's contribution here gonna be... Ditch the tracking cookies and cross-site scripting?
 
2013-07-03 03:32:34 AM
Cyclometh - The American experiment, for all intents and purposes, is over.
The issue is not that they ARE. It is that they CAN.


You got it right. And, for those who say "I wish they would spy on me. They would be bored to death in a matter of minutes." don't seem to realize that, if in fact you were not doing anything of merit, and the government was spying on you, they would certainly come up with something to make you interesting to the Attorney General's office. We are about to have to make a decision based on the dual legal system in this country, and this abuse of power is one of the main contentions.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
WHETHER THE PROOF EXISTS OR NOT, I KNOW
I WILL FIND IT!

/remember this little gem? Sadly, it is more true than anyone wants to admit...
 
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