thisisyourbrainonFark: The plot thickens ... this is interesting as hell.
HK-MP5-SD: We basically forced a diplomatic flight carrying a head of state to land in Europe.
Disgruntled Goat: Four, count 'em, FOUR greenlights to Main today about this guy.This is farking absurd.
Jekylman: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x178]Also ended up in Bolivia.
Adolf Oliver Nipples: Where does this insanity come from? Implanted microchips just because you have a security clearance? Someone's been watching too many movies.
davynelson: shame on the USA for lying and spying on its citizensshame on the world for not offering Snowden refuge from a rogue police stateshame on American citizens for standing around with thumbs in mouths with nothing to sayyet again, as their freedoms and rights are stripped from them over and over and overwhy you don't take your country back while there is still a system in place that would allow itis beyond me.your right to a fair trial is gone now, you do know that don't you, 'terrorist'?what's next? your right to free speech fo shizzle.
parasol: If you feel the country is moving away from the ideal then the question is - what are you doing to change the status quo?
oren0: gfid: Ahhh, Bolivia - that bastion of freedom and democracyAny moral high ground on "freedom and democracy" that the US had was gone the minute the government decided to pretend the fourth amendment didn't exist.
jsmilky: he probably has had a bug implanted in his ass so that Uncle Sam can track him. Thereis a price to pay for having access to taboo government info. The gov't isn't so stupid as tonot implant microchips in their employees who have high level clearance. Otherwise hewould have just moved to Idaho and assumed another identity. Nonetheless, there is moreto this story.
Satanic_Hamster: Hmmm. What's the protocol for asking/claiming a foreign military/presidential plane is lying about the passengerinin
aerojockey: Here's what I don't understand: France and Portugal closed off their airspace. It refueled in Spain (apparently they were allowed to refuel but not disembark), then landed in Austria? How did the airplane get to Spain if France was closed off its airspace? And, after refueling, why couldn't it have flown around Portugal?
CygnusDarius: It would be interesting if another country, let's say Bolivia, or maybe Russia, suggested the idea of the UN doing sanctions to the US. And other countries rallied behind that.
EngineerAU: Stone Meadow: I still think he was foolish for turning down Pooty-Poot's offer. Hell, I am functionally fluent in Spanish (lived in Guatemala as a youngster, and later in Honduras, Ecuador and Spain) and STILL would have chosen to stay in Russia under his circumstances. Bolivia? Third world shiathole.A third world shiathole from which he would be difficult to track. He could hang out there days or months, only to reappear somewhere else on the planet. Or he could slip across the boarder into Argentina. Economic issues aside, Argentina is a pretty nice country and one that doesn't really care all that much about what the US thinks about them.
Adolf Oliver Nipples: This soap opera amuses me. Snowden clearly thought that everybody would rally around him, he would be seen as noble and righteous and countries would line up to fete him. Instead he's being rejected left and right, he can't find a country to take him, and he's criticizing the US for violating his rights and other blah after he blatantly and publicly violated US laws.I don't think he thought his cunning plan the whole way through.
Aigoo: The story is the fact that we have no civil rights
Silverstaff: oren0: gfid: Ahhh, Bolivia - that bastion of freedom and democracyAny moral high ground on "freedom and democracy" that the US had was gone the minute the government decided to pretend the fourth amendment didn't exist.Since when did they do that?I haven't seen anything out of PRISM that violates the fourth amendment.FISA Court being used to issue search warrants, that fits Amendment IV requirements for a specific search.Broad metadata sweeps, no personal identifying information, not an Amendment IV issue.PRISM certainly looks like it was very carefully designed to hew to the exact limits of what they could do and stay within Fourth Amendment limitations.
Gyrfalcon: Jekylman: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x178]Also ended up in Bolivia.And like Butch and Sundance...never got out alive.Snowden's choices of refuge just keep getting worse and worse, don't they?
Day_Old_Dutchie: It's disguising how our paranoid "leaders" are doing their goddamnedness to make an example of this guy,
Popcorn Johnny: The USA had nothing to do with the plane being diverted, take off the tin foil.
Stone Meadow: But he's an attention whore who craves the self-righteous narcissism that goes with revealing secrets, so he will be in NSA/CIA's sights within days if not hours of settling in Bolivia.
Ivo Shandor: Bullshiat. Why else would any European nation care whether or not Snowden happened to be flying through its airspace?
BostonEMT: Hows that "rule of law" working out for you? dikbag countries just proved to the world that they won't follow their OWN rules when the rubber meets the road... Also proves that every country farks every other country, and all the fake 'rage' from these countries is fake.Is it legal to deny a diplomat almost anything?? what ever happened to diplomatic immunity??\fake rage is fake.
EngineerAU: Stone Meadow: But he's an attention whore who craves the self-righteous narcissism that goes with revealing secrets, so he will be in NSA/CIA's sights within days if not hours of settling in Bolivia.You sound... concerned.
Dinobot: I'd have liked to see the Bolivian plane to crash if only because it would be a diplomatic nightmare for France and Portugal
Popcorn Johnny: Ivo Shandor: Bullshiat. Why else would any European nation care whether or not Snowden happened to be flying through its airspace?Because they don't want to get involved, it's really not that hard to figure out.
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