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(Fark)   I'm 4 days into a 2-week vacation, the office wants me to come in, fix something. Should I even return the call? They've treated me horribly all year, ripped me off on back pay caused the current trouble themselves. DIT   (fark.com) divider line 68
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2013-07-02 05:34:23 PM
How screwed is the office if you don't fix it for two weeks?

For example...
Is the server on fire or is someone's email signature not displaying properly?

I'd just fix it and tell them you're taking another day off.
 
2013-07-02 05:34:59 PM
Depends on how you described your vacation. If you said I will be on vacation and completely unavailable then don't return the call. If you said I will be checking email/phone intermittently then you kind of have to. But you don't have to go in...you are on vacation.
 
2013-07-02 05:37:19 PM
It also depends on how badly you need the job.
 
2013-07-02 05:42:27 PM
Wait, did they rip you off on back pay, and cause the problem themselves? Or was ripping you off on back pay what caused the problem?

Either way, I wouldn't do it. Or do what bulldg4life said, and fix it then take an extra day.
 
2013-07-02 05:43:25 PM
Depends on what the offer to come in entails. Is it double time or better with a bonus vacation day tacked on to the end of your current break for disrupting your peace and tranquility on vacation? Flip side is how easy would it be to get another job if the person who caused the problem is also the person that can let you go. I would say textor email your question about it and include failure to reply means the problem is solved. You can always deny receiving a text or email due to technical problems and text works where voice may not.
 
2013-07-02 05:44:09 PM
OP here, I'm a condom repair man in a brothel. There's a high-end customer who has a condom he really favours and now we almost don't let anyone use it but him.

Thing is, one of the new people at the desk gave it to a really big guy and now it's all stretched out. They want me to come in and shrink it by stuffing it in my butt for a couple of hours.

I want to tell them to go to hell but I need the job and, as you can imagine, my skill isn't really readily transferable.

Thoughts?
 
NFA
2013-07-02 05:44:14 PM
Not fixing the problem will just cause them to fire/replace you.  There are lots of people out there who would love a crappy job vs no job.

It's your call, is getting even with the douche bags worth the stress of being unemployed and looking for another job?
 
2013-07-02 06:06:26 PM
did I click the TF Discussion tab by accident?
 
2013-07-02 06:49:44 PM
NOPE. Your vacation. You were told at the time of hire that compensation included a certain number of vacation days. Your backup should take care of things while you are gone. No backup? Um .. why?

Still ... enjoy your time off. I don't care if you are sitting on the curb in front of your job's building. Get paid to not work.
 
2013-07-02 07:03:13 PM

Nadie_AZ: NOPE. Your vacation. You were told at the time of hire that compensation included a certain number of vacation days. Your backup should take care of things while you are gone. No backup? Um .. why?

Still ... enjoy your time off. I don't care if you are sitting on the curb in front of your job's building. Get paid to not work.


Do you live in a right to work state? Are you replaceable?
 
2013-07-02 07:14:08 PM

rwhamann: Nadie_AZ: NOPE. Your vacation. You were told at the time of hire that compensation included a certain number of vacation days. Your backup should take care of things while you are gone. No backup? Um .. why?

Still ... enjoy your time off. I don't care if you are sitting on the curb in front of your job's building. Get paid to not work.

Do you live in a right to work state? Are you replaceable?


I was shiatcanned for taking a sick day after Christmas. I had the flu from x-mas until after New Year's. Even though it was more expensive to replace me, I was fired anyway to be made an example of. Right-to-work states are farked.
 
2013-07-02 07:53:45 PM
Unless there was some sort of understanding beforehand that you were "on call" I wouldn't answer unless you get a 911 text or something of that nature.
 
2013-07-02 07:57:04 PM
Why do you take your mobile phone on vacations?
 
2013-07-02 07:57:57 PM

rwhamann: Nadie_AZ: NOPE. Your vacation. You were told at the time of hire that compensation included a certain number of vacation days. Your backup should take care of things while you are gone. No backup? Um .. why?

Still ... enjoy your time off. I don't care if you are sitting on the curb in front of your job's building. Get paid to not work.

Do you live in a right to work state? Are you replaceable?


You know right to work means you can't be forced to join a union. It means only that, nothing else.
 
2013-07-02 07:59:51 PM
When I am on vacation, I do not answer Work calls.  Period.
 
2013-07-02 08:02:35 PM
I thought there would be DIT?
 
2013-07-02 08:12:09 PM
Do you own the company?

No?

Then the correct answer is "what part about vacation don't you understand".
 
2013-07-02 08:50:13 PM
Fark that shiat.
 
2013-07-02 08:58:25 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: rwhamann: Nadie_AZ: NOPE. Your vacation. You were told at the time of hire that compensation included a certain number of vacation days. Your backup should take care of things while you are gone. No backup? Um .. why?

Still ... enjoy your time off. I don't care if you are sitting on the curb in front of your job's building. Get paid to not work.

Do you live in a right to work state? Are you replaceable?

I was shiatcanned for taking a sick day after Christmas. I had the flu from x-mas until after New Year's. Even though it was more expensive to replace me, I was fired anyway to be made an example of. Right-to-work states are farked.


That has nothing to with right to work. Right to work only means you can't be forced to join a union to get a job.

You're probably thinking of employment at will, which is what most employment is unless you have a contract.
 
2013-07-02 09:06:36 PM
are you looking for a new job now since the one you have doesn't sound like its one you would want to stay with?
 
2013-07-02 09:41:49 PM
Karma, baby. Karma.
 
2013-07-02 09:49:24 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: rwhamann: Nadie_AZ: NOPE. Your vacation. You were told at the time of hire that compensation included a certain number of vacation days. Your backup should take care of things while you are gone. No backup? Um .. why?

Still ... enjoy your time off. I don't care if you are sitting on the curb in front of your job's building. Get paid to not work.

Do you live in a right to work state? Are you replaceable?

I was shiatcanned for taking a sick day after Christmas. I had the flu from x-mas until after New Year's. Even though it was more expensive to replace me, I was fired anyway to be made an example of. Right-to-work states are farked.


Jesus, I hope you went in and horked on your boss's desk.
 
2013-07-02 09:50:03 PM
you have to ask?
 
2013-07-02 09:52:23 PM

bulldg4life: I'd just fix it and tell them you're taking another two days off.


You're doing them a favor if you go in.  They owe you.  Or if they are being completely unreasonable, break another couple of things while you're there.
 
2013-07-02 10:04:09 PM
No. Don't return the call.

They need to learn how indispensable you really are.

You need to learn how valuable you really are.

Not being there is the only way that either point will ever be made.
 
2013-07-02 10:22:05 PM
Long time ago, my wife and I worked in the same office and were pestered by work while on vacation, We changed our answering machine (pre cell phones) message to "We are on vacation. If you are a friend or family, leave a message. If you are from the office, leave us alone."
Worked really well.
 
2013-07-02 10:30:58 PM
I always figure if you can be gone for two weeks at a time for vacation, you are replaceable.
 
2013-07-02 10:46:18 PM

basemetal: I always figure if you can be gone for two weeks at a time for vacation, you are replaceable.


IOW pretty much anyone in upper management.
 
2013-07-02 10:51:34 PM
Use this time to go on interviews for your next job. This one sounds like it sucks.
 
2013-07-02 10:52:38 PM
i46.tinypic.com
I'm sorry. I'm in Lower Tasmania this week, and missed your call....
 
2013-07-02 11:40:31 PM
My first vacation in three years, with the birth of my daughter, I got a call from one of my cooks about an order placed to a local produce distributor. Took about two minutes to resolve. Chef problems...

NO I didn't come in. Cripes.
 
2013-07-03 12:13:11 AM

Kuta: No. Don't return the call.

They need to learn how indispensable you really are.

You need to learn how valuable you really are.

Not being there is the only way that either point will ever be made.


THIS
 
2013-07-03 12:28:14 AM

Barfmaker: OP here, I'm a condom repair man in a brothel. There's a high-end customer who has a condom he really favours and now we almost don't let anyone use it but him.

Thing is, one of the new people at the desk gave it to a really big guy and now it's all stretched out. They want me to come in and shrink it by stuffing it in my butt for a couple of hours.

I want to tell them to go to hell but I need the job and, as you can imagine, my skill isn't really readily transferable.

Thoughts?


I was waiting for DIT before thoughts.

My thought? Copypasta mothersubba
 
2013-07-03 12:29:06 AM
I did giggle though
 
2013-07-03 12:34:22 AM
fark 'em.....

/Unless you LIKE the job
 
2013-07-03 12:53:38 AM
cf.badcheese.com
 
2013-07-03 12:55:03 AM

NFA: There are lots of people out there who would love a crappy job vs no job.


Who cares? You are your own man, make some boundaries and stick by them. Your workplace will respect you for it, or at least whatever sad piece of shiat coworker called to bother you.
 
2013-07-03 01:06:26 AM

Barfmaker: OP here, I'm a condom repair man in a brothel. There's a high-end customer who has a condom he really favours and now we almost don't let anyone use it but him.

Thing is, one of the new people at the desk gave it to a really big guy and now it's all stretched out. They want me to come in and shrink it by stuffing it in my butt for a couple of hours.

I want to tell them to go to hell but I need the job and, as you can imagine, my skill isn't really readily transferable.

Thoughts?


C'mon, man, your butt isn't that tight.
 
2013-07-03 01:22:27 AM
Subby here, for real.

Sorry I didn't check into the thread earlier, but like I said, I AM on vacation, and so not near a competitor that often. And it didn't get greenlighted for a long time, so I had to go do other stuff, just now fund it again.


 I was supposed to be in Hawaii for the next 14 days, but these bastiges refused to pay me about ten grand in illegally with-held overtime. The ten grand was going to fund the trip. The trip was to celebrate my rigthtous win of overtime they refused to pay me for three years.  Overtime isn't about the money as much as the extra money is a payback for the loss of quality time with the ones you love. And they took a LOT of time from me. I won my overtime case after a three-year struggle, but they say they're only paying going forward, and if I want the back pay, well fark me.   The bosses have been pricks to me all year, ordering petty little get-backs like that I am not allowed to ever close my office door for privacy, even work-related privacy. They force me to account for my time in fifteen minute increments, but nobody else has to. It's been a campaign of trying to get me to quit: I'm the old-timer, they are carpetbagger hacks who got clouted in, but lost their clout when their boss went to jail. However, they still have their jobs... for now. But less juice, so they can't just fire me.  And their time is running out... in another two ears, they will likely be gone with the turnover in the head office. I'll still likely be here.

The current problem came about because the supervisor knows nothing of our specialized work, and took away our ability to talk directly to client/customers.  Even when a customer is ten feet away from me, I can't talk to them; I need to have every conversation go thru this idiot supervisor, who invariably re-types my questions to the client and garbles them in the translation (again, because the supervisor has zero background in our line of work), then, when the client answers, this supervisor only gives me partial answers back, and is all put out and unwilling to ask follow-up questions.

With that as background, client-customer ordered up a job, and did not initially provide all the raw data and documents.  I did the best I could with the partial list of "ingredients", but working with this client is always like playing piñata; you take blind swings with your best guess, then see how they like what you did.  Compound this with the supervisor who likes to play "telephone", and well. the final product was awesome, but wound up needing changes. Changes that would  never have needed to come up initially or changes that would have been trivial, had they given me the right components the first time, or even the second.   Anyway, I went thru three rounds of these changes, got an approval before the vacation.  The vacation time was booked 4 months ahead and approved.


Four days into my vacation,  suddenly, someone further up the chain has decided the project needs more tweaks.  I get one text that it's just one little change on one of two projects.   These dicks had four weeks where the project was done waiting for their review, and NOW they want more tweaks.

Another text comes in from a buddy at work; it's actually four changes on TWO projects, he's been tasked with handling these changes in my absence, but nobody in the shop can do what I do, as well as I do it: he's not that well-versed on the particular software, which is my specialty, and unfamiliar with how I arrange the raw assets for the project. The thing is 32 layers deep, and has to go thru three intermediary processes to complete the "little" change.  If my bud tries to do it, I imagine, with me talking him thru it over the phone, he could do it in three days.   I figure a full day for fixing all of it for both projects  if I have to come in and do it.  And I actually WANT to come in and do it.  I'm a team player, normally, and I love getting called in to "save the day"; it gives me a sense of worth. And I want to help my work buddy.

 But if I give in this time, I think they'll just see it as permission to further own my ass and never let me up from under their foot. If I respond to the call, I will never have a day off or holiday truly "mine" again.  We already have one indispensable guy on the team, an engineer, whom they force into overtime nearly every Sunday. He makes mad bank, but his stress levels are off the chart. Mine aren't much better, considering all the asshattery I have to endure from the clowns in charge every week.  I try to bury the hatchet and contribute my help and advice, and every time I go out of my way to MacGyver around/ cover up for/ repair one of management's mistakes, I never get credit for it, they just find new ways to fark me over.

I am in the union, I don't know for sure if the contract lets me ignore the calls or not, waiting for a call from my shop steward to advise me.    Thing is, HE may also be out on vacation. Might take another day or two to hear back.

If I was actually IN Hawaii right now, there is nothing I could do for them, so,  they'd have to either guess at how to re-configure my masterpiece, and probably tank it, or they could just give up and re-make the two projects using the less-qualified guy and get a weaker end product. Normally, I would rather die than let that happen.  But somehow these pinheads have to learn my actual value and skill level is higher than what they credit me for.  They have been under-utilizing me for over a year, making me do the milk runs and assigning the glamor ops to other people.  This was one of the first higher-profile tasks I've got in a while.

Money will be lost on the client's part, if the changes are not implemented sooner than my scheduled return. So now the super is calling but hanging up when the machine clicks on.  It could be they will have to toss my work product aside and have another expert re-do something from scratch instead; it won't be as good, it also won't be mine, but I think I can live with that part of it.
 
2013-07-03 01:24:28 AM
BTW, the autocomplete on my browser sucks balls. Sorry about the typos in my post above.
 
2013-07-03 01:40:43 AM
You're farked. Enjoy Hawaii.
 
2013-07-03 01:44:33 AM
Hawaii looks a lot like the Midwestern Plains from here. As I explained in my earlier, longer post.
 
2013-07-03 01:45:52 AM
Subby, I think you just answered your own question.

BTW: Find out who some background on these client-customers and contact them and ask if they're hiring. I think you're better off.
 
2013-07-03 01:54:32 AM

Any Pie Left: Subby here, for real.


Well, I certainly wouldn't respond until you hear back from the shop steward.  I certainly hope he agrees with me, and I said fark 'em.  If they won't pay you the OT you earned, they can figure out the work.

You must get maid massive wages, or I'm just very nastily mercenary, but the first paycheck without my promised OT would've been enough for me to cause a stink.  I've fought my current job on trying to jack me over for OT, and managed to win, probably because it was only a few hours, but still...  And I certainly wouldn't be offering to come in any extra from here on out.

TL;DR - Let 'em twist in the wind.
 
2013-07-03 02:21:07 AM
Fark 'em.
 
2013-07-03 02:30:12 AM
It's blowing my mind that you'd even consider it.

Seriously, if your bosses are gonna be replaced in a couple of years anyway and they've never shown any appreciation for saving their asses in the past... why would you?

Call and tell 'em you're out of state.
 
2013-07-03 02:47:54 AM

basemetal: I always figure if you can be gone for two weeks at a time for vacation, you are replaceable.


In an industry where you have to respond quickly to customer, like IT, perhaps.

My industry, where we deliver something to the customer a few times per year, not so much.
 
2013-07-03 08:18:33 AM
You're not in a position to come in, sorry, but you did book this vacation ahead of time.
 
2013-07-03 08:30:50 AM

Any Pie Left: I won my overtime case after a three-year struggle, but they say they're only paying going forward, and if I want the back pay, well fark me.


The authorities are going to be thrilled to hear about your employer's contempt of court in ignoring the ruling.
 
2013-07-03 08:43:42 AM
"Sorry guys, I'm on the Sprint network, my phone wasn't working 2 weeks, very frustrating, but I can't afford a phone on a contract at the moment"
 
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