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(Boston Herald)   Massachusetts governor vetoes tax increase bill because it doesn't raise taxes enough   (bostonherald.com) divider line 34
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2013-07-02 06:47:57 PM  
Ah, the Herald. Printed with ink mixed from conservative tears.
 
2013-07-02 07:13:31 PM  
"This threatens working families and businesses still fighting to overcome the financial downturn, - See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/07/patrick_n i xes_transportation_bill_demands_800m_in_new_spending#sthash.KDgx9OTB.d pufThis threatens working families and businesses still fighting to overcome the financial downturn

A financial downturn which will much easier for those families to escape once they are unable to drive to work.
This threatens working families and businesses still fighting to overcome the financial downturn - See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/07/patrick_n i xes_transportation_bill_demands_800m_in_new_spending#sthash.KDgx9OTB.d pu"This threatens working families and businesses still fighting to overcome the financial downturn, - See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/07/patrick_n i xes_transportation_bill_demands_800m_in_new_spending#sthash.KDgx9OTB.d pu
 
2013-07-02 07:15:29 PM  
Well, none of that junk showed up in the preview.  But really - who doesn't think roads are a good example of worthwhile government spending?.
 
2013-07-02 07:28:58 PM  
Stupid tag is for Subby, apparently.
 
2013-07-02 07:33:26 PM  
Those EBT cards and tuition assistance for illegals isn't going to pay for its self you know.
 
2013-07-02 07:45:11 PM  
One of the big things Patrick is trying to do is bring the subway and public transportation system into this century in terms of both safety and amenities.

Bottom line is that Massachusetts is a place where a shiat ton of money is made in the IT sector by folks who commute by public transportation.  It's also used by students who come here for colleges (we have a few of them here) and then look for work.  It's very much a "gateway" feature to greater economics that has been neglected and overlooked for decades.
 
2013-07-02 07:46:46 PM  

Karac: Well, none of that junk showed up in the preview.  But really - who doesn't think roads are a good example of worthwhile government spending?.


Libertarians?

/why do they hate roads?
 
2013-07-02 07:50:39 PM  

Skarekrough: One of the big things Patrick is trying to do is bring the subway and public transportation system into this century in terms of both safety and amenities.

Bottom line is that Massachusetts is a place where a shiat ton of money is made in the IT sector by folks who commute by public transportation.  It's also used by students who come here for colleges (we have a few of them here) and then look for work.  It's very much a "gateway" feature to greater economics that has been neglected and overlooked for decades.


I was actually strangely excited about this tax increase. It seems no one wants to invest in civilization anymore. It is exciting to think that the state will be moving forward, instead of just watching what our ancestors built age and decay.
 
2013-07-02 07:54:36 PM  

Xythero: Skarekrough: One of the big things Patrick is trying to do is bring the subway and public transportation system into this century in terms of both safety and amenities.

Bottom line is that Massachusetts is a place where a shiat ton of money is made in the IT sector by folks who commute by public transportation.  It's also used by students who come here for colleges (we have a few of them here) and then look for work.  It's very much a "gateway" feature to greater economics that has been neglected and overlooked for decades.

I was actually strangely excited about this tax increase. It seems no one wants to invest in civilization anymore. It is exciting to think that the state will be moving forward, instead of just watching what our ancestors built age and decay.


Same here.

There was a crash awhile ago on the subway and it came out that most other transit systems have safeguards in place which would have prevented what happened.

The commuter rail now has WiFi, but that should have happened a long time ago and it should be much faster than it is.

When the state gets a shot at making things better that's when it tends to shine.  I'm fine with higher taxes if it means more IT companies to fill the coffers and a better public transportation system for everyone to use.
 
2013-07-02 08:01:35 PM  
According to the article the Gov. wanted to accurately account for taxes to support the spending based which the bill failed to do later in time when the cost of tolls were going to decrease. You the accuracy that was missing in your headline as well.
 
2013-07-02 08:02:53 PM  

Skarekrough: Bottom line is that Massachusetts is a place where a shiat ton of money is made in the IT sector by folks who commute by public transportation.


More tech research money is spent in Kendall Square in Cambridge than in Palo Alto and Berkley combined. It's crazy how much those few square blocks have changed in the past five years.
 
2013-07-02 08:06:14 PM  
Fahk you, subby. He's a good governor and this state is doing very well, thanks. Stay in your mom's basement in Alabama or Somalia or wherever and enjoy your lack of public services.
 
2013-07-02 08:09:09 PM  
BTW, just do you understand - there are almost no Republicans in politics here. This is just a budgeting matter between the governor, the State Senate, and the State House. There aren't any heroic teahadists here trying to liberate taxpayers from libtard tyranny.
 
2013-07-02 08:31:35 PM  
I'm surprised. Until now Patrick never saw a tax increase he didn't like.
 
2013-07-02 08:36:11 PM  

Edsel: Fahk you, subby. He's a good governor and this state is doing very well, thanks. Stay in your mom's basement in Alabama or Somalia or wherever and enjoy your lack of public services.


What makes you think he won't have public services?  I mean...isn't that what states that don't shirk their public responsibility just to squeeze out the last dollar of a 6-7 figures annual salary are for?
 
2013-07-02 08:58:14 PM  

kyrg: Those EBT cards and tuition assistance for illegals isn't going to pay for its self you know.


Says the guy from Vermont.
 
2013-07-02 09:04:14 PM  

Karac: Well, none of that junk showed up in the preview.  But really - who doesn't think roads are a good example of worthwhile government spending?.


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2013-07-02 10:06:10 PM  
Good Job Gov.

/rides the subway everyday
//it is well below standards
///800m is not enough
 
2013-07-02 10:07:23 PM  
When they start raising T prices to pay for the roads they can start raising the cost of driving to pay for the T.

/Want to ride on a "better train"?   Pay for it.
 
2013-07-02 11:31:17 PM  
Nowhere to post this: Why are so many Fark threads closed?
 
2013-07-02 11:32:49 PM  

Skarekrough: One of the big things Patrick is trying to do is bring the subway and public transportation system into this century in terms of both safety and amenities.

Bottom line is that Massachusetts is a place where a shiat ton of money is made in the IT sector by folks who commute by public transportation.  It's also used by students who come here for colleges (we have a few of them here) and then look for work.  It's very much a "gateway" feature to greater economics that has been neglected and overlooked for decades.


You said it right that time
 
2013-07-02 11:38:24 PM  

92myrtle: robrr2003: When they start raising T prices to pay for the roads they can start raising the cost of driving to pay for the T.

/Want to ride on a "better train"?   Pay for it.


Horseshiat.  Half the T's financial problems are because the bus-and-choo-choo-train agency of the unwashed masses is carrying a crippling load of Big Dig highway debt on its coffers as a lame Weld-era accounting trick.  The T is already paying more than its fair share for the frickin' roads it has no part in administering and has cut service, crammed record fare increase after record fare increase, and reneged on a half-dozen law-bound Transit Mitigation Commitments because of this Big Dig anvil around its neck.

You want every user of every mode to pay for only their mode...fine.  Take the CA/T debt off the T's books.  Whoops!  Now MassHighway's bankrupt instead.  Well, good luck with that!


you're wasting your breath. robrr doesn't even believe in the MA black/latino legislative caucus, he probably thinks the Big Dig was invented by Patrick (using 0bama's time machine) to cover up the operating costs of the Abortion-plex.
 
2013-07-03 12:40:54 AM  

hardinparamedic: Libertarians?

/why do they hate roads?


They hate everything that costs them money. They're simple folks.
 
2013-07-03 01:16:47 AM  

Karac: Well, none of that junk showed up in the preview.  But really - who doesn't think roads are a good example of worthwhile government spending?.


Several "conservative" relatives of mine.... Along with things like education for teh childrens, preventative medical care for the purpose of staving off pandemics, scientific research of any kind, and basically any other investment that can't easily be attached to some corporate entity making a shiatload of money in the next quarter.

/yeah, a lot of my relatives are f*cking tards
 
2013-07-03 01:24:44 AM  

Karac: Well, none of that junk showed up in the preview.  But really - who doesn't think roads are a good example of worthwhile government spending?.


Merpeople.
 
2013-07-03 01:50:38 AM  
It isn't "stupid" at all.

Shiat costs money. There clearly were not enough revenues.

Send the plan back. Dude deseves a HERO tag, quite frankly.
 
2013-07-03 04:57:42 AM  

Craptastic: They hate everything that costs them money. They're simple folks.


Salt of the Earth?
 
2013-07-03 07:06:01 AM  
shiat needs to get paid for, repaired and upgraded... The Bill basically uses "fuzzy math". Tolls from the Western Pike are going to be phased out, but the Bill just pretends that isn't going to happen.

This isn't Bumblefark Co. in Flyover State. We have aging infrastructure that desperately needs to be updated.
 
2013-07-03 07:33:54 AM  

keylock71: shiat needs to get paid for, repaired and upgraded... The Bill basically uses "fuzzy math". Tolls from the Western Pike are going to be phased out, but the Bill just pretends that isn't going to happen.

This isn't Bumblefark Co. in Flyover State. We have aging infrastructure that desperately needs to be updated.


Aren't the western tolls already gone?

/uses EZ Pass, so I never notice.
 
2013-07-03 07:34:14 AM  
Free bikes exchange centers and pave over (with recycle materials /old tires ) the rails.
Then pass a law making every frigging backpacking student and single person under 30 ride or walk .

Blue collar families still get to drive to work and Costco.

Extemp all civil servants. In fact provide each with Charger and omnipass parking sticker.

// How many billions did the Big Dig cost again ?  Was that all funded in state ?
 
2013-07-03 08:22:28 AM  

Xythero: I was actually strangely excited about this tax increase. It seems no one wants to invest in civilization anymore.


Yes, America might as well be a 3rd world backwater.
 
2013-07-03 08:45:58 AM  
Good!
 
2013-07-03 02:03:17 PM  

Elmo Jones: Craptastic: They hate everything that costs them money. They're simple folks.

Salt of the Earth?


You know...morons.

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2013-07-03 07:32:08 PM  
Just trying to correct the problems left over from that greasy out of state Mormon, Romney.

People got $125 back more a year for the last 10 years, meanwhile the infrastructure went to shiat and funding of the state university system lagged behind.  He cut taxes and gave back a trivial amount to put a check-box on paper for his failed bid for the presidency, to the long term detriment of the state he was supposed to be a steward of.

Those bills are coming due, and now it's going to cost a hell of a lot more since maintenance was deferred for a decade.

Dem's get the blame too.  They should have fixed the financial issues as soon as he was gone, but were happy to ride the "no tax raises" train for all it was worth.
 
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