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(LA Times)   Long John Silver's has the least healthful meal in America, according to people who have never been to a Cracker Barrel   (latimes.com) divider line 78
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2013-07-02 07:12:09 PM

Tellingthem: My favorite part of Long john Silvers are the little crumbly bits at the bottom of the basket. And yeah i wish more places had malt vinegar. I love putting that stuff on french fries...


If you ask for them, they will give you more with your meal.  My brother in law does this.  He is actually not enormous, for the record, but that's mostly because he's also a crazy gym rat.
 
2013-07-02 07:24:19 PM

KhamanV: Tellingthem: My favorite part of Long john Silvers are the little crumbly bits at the bottom of the basket. And yeah i wish more places had malt vinegar. I love putting that stuff on french fries...

If you ask for them, they will give you more with your meal.  My brother in law does this.  He is actually not enormous, for the record, but that's mostly because he's also a crazy gym rat.


Yup, dated a girl who use to ask for extra "cracklings". They came in a little cardboard container like an extra side did.

I like the chicken better than the fish at LJS, but captain ds fish sandwich is awesome , even if my non gall bladder having self hates me for it instantly.
 
2013-07-02 07:30:26 PM
So what? I could make my own equally (or worse) unhealthy meals prepared freshly using products purchased at my local market. No one is forcing me to do that, and no one is forcing you to order long john's fatty meals, so mind your own business maybe?
 
2013-07-02 07:39:28 PM

KhamanV: Tellingthem: My favorite part of Long john Silvers are the little crumbly bits at the bottom of the basket. And yeah i wish more places had malt vinegar. I love putting that stuff on french fries...

If you ask for them, they will give you more with your meal. My brother in law does this.  He is actually not enormous, for the record, but that's mostly because he's also a crazy gym rat.


Oh good lord...I would probably just get a mound of those and skip the rest. (thank god there isn't one near me or i'd be there right now stuffing my face with crumbly goodness) And I'm not enormous either, I swear some people think that eating a meal at a fast food joint makes you insta fat. I probably eat out a couple of times a month so an occasional splurge isn't going to do much.
 
2013-07-02 07:44:29 PM
My last two trips to ljs ended in me lying on the cool tile of the bathroom, calling on the white phone and praying for the sweet, sweet release of death to end the gut wrenching pain of acute food poisoning.

Don't think I will give them at shot at 3 for 3.
 
2013-07-02 07:44:42 PM

Bippal: KhamanV: Tellingthem: My favorite part of Long john Silvers are the little crumbly bits at the bottom of the basket. And yeah i wish more places had malt vinegar. I love putting that stuff on french fries...

If you ask for them, they will give you more with your meal.  My brother in law does this.  He is actually not enormous, for the record, but that's mostly because he's also a crazy gym rat.

Yup, dated a girl who use to ask for extra "cracklings". They came in a little cardboard container like an extra side did.

I like the chicken better than the fish at LJS, but captain ds fish sandwich is awesome , even if my non gall bladder having self hates me for it instantly.


There was a period of time where the chicken was really bad.  It was a few years ago and it was super processed and rubbery; like a nugget gone wrong.  The one time I've been since, it seemed like the 'chicken planks' had gone back to what they used to be like.  Also the onion rings weren't bad, although they pretty much tasted like everything else... not surprising since I think there's like one fryer and one type of batter.

It's been two years since I had that crap.  I'm feeling a disgusting urge.  My weekend is going to be full of regret.
 
2013-07-02 07:48:20 PM
Its pretty obvious that LJS is greasy cheap fish with an enormous high fat content. So, DUH.

That said, I wouldn't trust the Center for Science in the Public Interest to tell me if the sky was blue.
 
2013-07-02 08:04:15 PM
I have to pay for bad versions of the foods I eat at Grandma's on Sundays? No thanks.

Cracker Barrel sucks.
 
2013-07-02 08:14:14 PM
For reference, the batter crumbs are officially called "crumbles". There used to be franchise owners who charged extra for scoops of them, but corporate put an end to that I was told.
 
2013-07-02 09:23:29 PM
I don't even think the Cracker Barrel stuff holds a candle to Bob Evans' biscuit and gravy platter. If I'm ever on death row, I'm ordering that as my last meal and beating them to the punch.
 
2013-07-02 09:24:43 PM
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2013-07-02 09:43:25 PM
"4½ ounces of fish and 3 ounces of batter"

The perfect food!

Seriously, I tried a LJS meal about 30 years ago.  Might as well have eaten the menu.
 
2013-07-02 09:54:50 PM

Despair of the Cheese: I understand that people have to rate the least healthy thing ever so they can feel superior, but seriously, who goes to LJS for healthy food? I go in there solely for the reason that when I come out of there after eating a meal that I will be coated with grease, inside and out.

This was almost LJS's exact response. They talked about how it was a "great value" at $4.99.

There are a few problems with the meal that are underreported or ignored. First, CSPI found that the thing has 33g of trans saturated fat, because LJS fries in cheap partially hydrogenated vegetable oil-except in California, where that's illegal, and they use canola oil and it has only the natural trans fat in the fish flesh (<1 g).

Second, LJS advertises this thing as "7oz to 8oz of haddock," but after checking samples from around the country, they found it was about 4.5oz of fish and 3.5 oz of fried batter. You can't say it's 8oz of fish when it's half that. (There's no little asterisked "pre-cooking weight" either.)

Third, LJS's published numbers for sodium and saturated fat in the hushpuppies and onion rings are i>substantially lower than what lab samples found.

To recap: it's got 33g trans fat when it should have virtually none, they're lying about how much fish you get, and they're lying about how much sodium and saturated fat are in the food.

Me, I say you can serve unhealthy food, but you can't lie about it.
 
2013-07-02 10:06:01 PM
Over-medium egg sandwich on sourdough with hash brown casserole is amazing, will last me until dinner, and only about 900 calories.
 
2013-07-02 10:22:47 PM

lordargent: theorellior: Kentucky Fried Chicken is my guilty pleasure. And I've been known to sneak a Taco Bell bean burrito from time to time,

Popeyes and crunchy tacos.

// never enough cajun rice.


Popeyes buscuits are farking CRACK, man. CRACK I tell you! Not as fluffy as KFC biscuits fresh
from the oven, but OMG the taste....it's a farking multiple orgasm for my tastebuds.
 
2013-07-02 11:05:17 PM

lordargent: theorellior: Kentucky Fried Chicken is my guilty pleasure. And I've been known to sneak a Taco Bell bean burrito from time to time,

Popeyes and crunchy tacos.

// never enough cajun rice.


Man, I do love Popeye's Spicy Chicken and their Mashed Potatoes with Cajun Gravy.

I do pretty well in general, and only eat fast food about once a month (I love to cook, that helps a lot). I eat LJS maybe once or twice a year. Does anyone remember when they had fried oysters and fried scallops on the menu?

Yes, I'm old.

=]
 
2013-07-02 11:27:25 PM

starlost: give me a pork butt any day. 99 cents a pound and you have all that nice fat too. marinade and throw it in the crock pot. i'm not a sweet bbq coca cola. root beer, dr pepper type bbq person. give me a white wine and herbs type marinade cooked through.



Try this Roast Cuban Pork recipe. Farking amazing.

1 (4 -7 lb)  pork shoulder (or use fresh ham)  
4   garlic cloves, peeled (you can use more garlic, this is the minimum)  
1  large onion, quartered  
2  tablespoons fresh oregano leaves or 1  tablespoon dried oregano  
1  tablespoon ground cumin  
1  teaspoon dried ancho chile powder or 1  teaspoon  other mild chili powder  
1  tablespoon salt  
2  teaspoons fresh ground black pepper  
olive oil, as needed 
1  tablespoon wine or 1  tablespoon cider vinegar  
lime wedge, for serving

Directions:
1
Heat oven to 300 degrees. Score meat's skin with a sharp knife, making a cross-hatch pattern. Pulse garlic, onion, oregano, cumin, chili, salt and pepper together in a food processor, adding oil in a drizzle and scraping down sides as necessary, until mixture is pasty. (Alternatively, mash ingredients in a mortar and pestle.) Blend in the vinegar.

2
Rub this mixture well into pork, getting it into every nook and cranny. Put pork in a roasting pan and film bottom with water. Roast pork for several hours (a 4-pound shoulder may be done in 3 hours), turning every hour or so and adding more water as necessary, until meat is very tender. Finish roasting with the skin side up until crisp, raising heat at end of cooking if necessary.

3
Let meat rest for 10 to 15 minutes before cutting it up; meat should be so tender that cutting it into uniform slices is almost impossible; rather, whack it up into chunks. Serve with lime.
 
2013-07-02 11:32:24 PM

BizarreMan: Beerguy: CRACKER BARREL PORN THREAD!!

Cracker Barrel Hash Brown Casserole FTW!


QFT
 
2013-07-02 11:45:37 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I like Long John Silvers.  Too bad there aren't many around.  I have fond memories of my dad taking me there when I was a kid and loving the fish and chicken.
 
2013-07-02 11:49:38 PM

starlost: give me a pork butt any day. 99 cents a pound and you have all that nice fat too. marinade and throw it in the crock pot. i'm not a sweet bbq coca cola. root beer, dr pepper type bbq person. give me a white wine and herbs type marinade cooked through.


Marinade and crock pot?

Son, you gotta brine it and use a damned smoker! You're defiling a wonderful piece of meat!

/Yes, I'm from Georgia, why do you ask?
 
2013-07-02 11:58:34 PM

Soulcatcher: starlost: give me a pork butt any day. 99 cents a pound and you have all that nice fat too. marinade and throw it in the crock pot. i'm not a sweet bbq coca cola. root beer, dr pepper type bbq person. give me a white wine and herbs type marinade cooked through.


Try this Roast Cuban Pork recipe. Farking amazing.

1 (4 -7 lb)  pork shoulder (or use fresh ham)  
4   garlic cloves, peeled (you can use more garlic, this is the minimum)  
1  large onion, quartered  
2  tablespoons fresh oregano leaves or 1  tablespoon dried oregano  
1  tablespoon ground cumin  
1  teaspoon dried ancho chile powder or 1  teaspoon  other mild chili powder  
1  tablespoon salt  
2  teaspoons fresh ground black pepper  
olive oil, as needed 
1  tablespoon wine or 1  tablespoon cider vinegar  
lime wedge, for serving

Directions:
1
Heat oven to 300 degrees. Score meat's skin with a sharp knife, making a cross-hatch pattern. Pulse garlic, onion, oregano, cumin, chili, salt and pepper together in a food processor, adding oil in a drizzle and scraping down sides as necessary, until mixture is pasty. (Alternatively, mash ingredients in a mortar and pestle.) Blend in the vinegar.

2
Rub this mixture well into pork, getting it into every nook and cranny. Put pork in a roasting pan and film bottom with water. Roast pork for several hours (a 4-pound shoulder may be done in 3 hours), turning every hour or so and adding more water as necessary, until meat is very tender. Finish roasting with the skin side up until crisp, raising heat at end of cooking if necessary.

3
Let meat rest for 10 to 15 minutes before cutting it up; meat should be so tender that cutting it into uniform slices is almost impossible; rather, whack it up into chunks. Serve with lime.


Sounds awesome, I am going to try to make this!
 
2013-07-03 12:53:56 AM

browser_snake: I don't even think the Cracker Barrel stuff holds a candle to Bob Evans' biscuit and gravy platter. If I'm ever on death row, I'm ordering that as my last meal and beating them to the punch.


Sausage gravy isn't as horrible for you as you may think. The sausage is the only bad thing. Other than that it's just flour and milk and spices.

Stupid easy to make.
 
2013-07-03 01:13:35 AM

thomps: basemetal: About once a year, I just need some grease, man.

maybe 3-4 times a year i find myself with a car in the suburbs (there are no LJS's in chicago proper, i think due to the trans-fat ban?) and indulge.  if i'm being honest, one of those 3-4 times per year i grab a zipcar for no other purpose than to drive to and from an LJS in the suburbs so i can go home and eat my heart attack alone in shame.


I don't know if the trans fat ban had anything to do with it because I can't ever remember there being any LSJ in Chicago, all the ones I have ever seen are in the suburbs, plus currently there are hundreds of places like J and J's fish that are like LJS.

I grew up in Oak Park and in the early 80's the LJS on Harlem just north of Madison was so bad that if you came within 2 blocks of it you could smell it. And by smell it I don't mean smell the fish or the batter, I mean you could smell the grease. It has gotten a little better since, you can't smell it until you are a little closer now and you can actually smell a hint of fish mixed in with the grease smell. But back in the 80's it was almost as bad as the Churches Chicken on Austin and Lake.
 
2013-07-03 01:26:41 AM
Oh look, a new report by the self-appointed Nutrition Nags. They're like having national condo Nazis.
 
2013-07-03 01:34:07 AM
I saw that article this morning and took it as a challenge. So for lunch my buddy and I went and each got the big catch meal with rings and hush puppies.

You know it's a good meal when after you've chewed the food, you feel the liquid fat sliding down your gullet.

/I just wish I didn't have to help my sister move in to her new apartment tonight.
//Second level, no elevator.
 
2013-07-03 07:53:45 AM
Maybe once every 3 months or so we'll get a family meal at LJS. I usually eat on piece of chicken and split a piece of fish with my wife.

The big catch basket looks like something I'd have bought every day for a week 10 years ago. Now, any single meal that exceeds 1000 calories generally is a no no, unless I've just gone all day without eating due to being busy and need to catch up.


/still a fattie
//just not as much of a fattie as I was.
 
2013-07-03 08:08:02 AM
Ugh.  LJS.  Ugh.  They'd probably deep fry the coleslaw if they could find a way.

Crazy thing is I love the fish-n-chips at a nearby pub and it's just as deep fried as LJS.  Their fish is like a crispy fish cloud while LJS feels like a gut bomb of grease.  I assume it has to do with the fact that the pub starts with non-frozen fish and LJS is frozen, bringing down the temperature of the oil.
 
2013-07-03 02:06:58 PM
 That place is guaranteed diarrhea
 
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