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(The Atlantic Wire)   Now I know this'll come as a shock to you, but you remember that neurosurgeon who wrote a book claiming his experiences scientifically PROVED heaven existed? Turns out he ain't much of a doctor and science says he's full of shiat   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 17
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2013-07-02 02:52:45 PM
6 votes:
I wish I didn't feel guilty about lying.  I could make so much money off of the religious.  All it takes is an 5-8th grade writing level, and a lot of telling people what they want to hear.
2013-07-02 02:49:42 PM
4 votes:
And like everyone promising heaven, he was doing it to make money.
2013-07-02 03:05:31 PM
2 votes:

HairBolus: So if his "religious" experience can be discounted as "just a hallucination" what if all of our experiences are just hallucinations?

Suck on that, scientific realists.


Settle down Descartes
2013-07-02 02:54:41 PM
2 votes:
There's a reason we say that neuroscience is about 50/50 with legitimate scientists and people who get the degree just to be able to "justify" their quackery.

Hell, both the quacks Mayim Bailik of The Big Bang Theory tv show, and Deepak Chopra - the king of all quacks - have advanced degrees in neuroscience.
2013-07-02 02:53:30 PM
2 votes:
I'm going to start collecting these get rich quick ideas and unleash them all at once.
2013-07-02 02:50:53 PM
2 votes:
The credulous rubes will still line up to buy his next book.
2013-07-02 03:51:39 PM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: And like everyone promising heaven, he was doing it to make money.


Done in one, and, well, duh.
2013-07-02 03:32:26 PM
1 votes:

Magorn: ikanreed: impaler: No way!

And I'm also totally surprised that people of "faith" want scientific proof of their faith. Totally defeating the point, but what have you.

You will hear such incredible definitions of the word "faith" if you ask those sorts of people.  It's like a fascinating study of cognitive dissonance all in one tiny conversation*

I rememeber hearing a story of a woman who believed she was dying of AIDS, and suffering all the rapid physical and mental declines that come with endstage AIDS-who as it turned out, wasn;t HIV+ at all and all her physical symptoms were actually caused by the drug cocktail she took to fight the supposed infection.

As it turned out, her mis-diagnosis had been deliberate.  The woman working at the AIDS clinic knew the woman was a lesbian, and the clinic worker was hoping to convince the woman to come to the clinic worker's church and "repent".  The end game would be that after the woman was saved, she'd get re-tested, and of course be HIV-  and the worker would then be able to "prove" a miracle faith healing had occurred.

When you wrap your head around the mindset of someone who knowing perpetrates a fraud in order to validate and "prove" the truth of her sincerely and deeply-held beliefs to others- you begin to understand how such people think


That was Charlene Riling. You can hear the story in Act 1 of this This American Life episode: "The High Cost of Living."

I cant confirm it, but I recall reading that the counselor or nurse who gave her the false information in order to trick her to converting to Christianity at Hope Ministries eventually went on to become a medical doctor, and never really suffered any penalties for what she did.
2013-07-02 03:22:12 PM
1 votes:

ikanreed: impaler: No way!

And I'm also totally surprised that people of "faith" want scientific proof of their faith. Totally defeating the point, but what have you.

You will hear such incredible definitions of the word "faith" if you ask those sorts of people.  It's like a fascinating study of cognitive dissonance all in one tiny conversation*


I rememeber hearing a story of a woman who believed she was dying of AIDS, and suffering all the rapid physical and mental declines that come with endstage AIDS-who as it turned out, wasn;t HIV+ at all and all her physical symptoms were actually caused by the drug cocktail she took to fight the supposed infection.

As it turned out, her mis-diagnosis had been deliberate.  The woman working at the AIDS clinic knew the woman was a lesbian, and the clinic worker was hoping to convince the woman to come to the clinic worker's church and "repent".  The end game would be that after the woman was saved, she'd get re-tested, and of course be HIV-  and the worker would then be able to "prove" a miracle faith healing had occurred.

When you wrap your head around the mindset of someone who knowing perpetrates a fraud in order to validate and "prove" the truth of her sincerely and deeply-held beliefs to others- you begin to understand how such people think
2013-07-02 03:10:10 PM
1 votes:

ch13fwiggum: Copper Spork: You don't need to be a scientist to be a doctor any more than you need to be a mathematician to be an engineer or a chemist to be a painter. We need to stop giving so much credibility to people who use things rather than understand them.


So, true... If anyone has worked with medical doctors in any regular capacity, you'll come to learn they really don't understand science... They are lifesavers yes, but they are trained in the scientific method at all.


They're mechanics, not automotive engineers
2013-07-02 03:05:57 PM
1 votes:
Religious faith is impervious to proof or reason. When faith is contradicted by reality, its owner simply regards the contradiction as an opportunity to strengthen their faith and dismisses the reality, thus creating their own.

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2013-07-02 03:05:00 PM
1 votes:

eynonmcwanker: I'm confused about how he "aint much of a doctor"...his creds are pretty impressive (Duke MD, Harvard, etc)


For one, it depends on what you mean by "doctor." If you mean medical doctor, then he probably has pretty good credentials for his ability to perform medical tasks, such as neurosurgery.  If you mean research doctor, then he probably has pretty poor credentials, as his only publication that I'm aware of is a book, rather than publishing in peer reviewed journals.

In the sciences, it's not so much who you are, but rather the quality of your research.
2013-07-02 03:01:35 PM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: And like everyone promising heaven, he was doing it to make money.


Hey now. Some want power. And some are legitimately crazy. It takes all kinds.
2013-07-02 02:56:54 PM
1 votes:
`I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
2013-07-02 02:53:28 PM
1 votes:
Just wait until you die and find out this is a big farked up MMORPG with shiatty tech support.
2013-07-02 02:51:29 PM
1 votes:
I'm shocked!  Shocked!
2013-07-02 02:51:13 PM
1 votes:
You don't need to be a scientist to be a doctor any more than you need to be a mathematician to be an engineer or a chemist to be a painter. We need to stop giving so much credibility to people who use things rather than understand them.
 
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