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(Entertainment Weekly)   No matter how bad the "Lone Ranger" flops, it'll never come close to rivalling the epic bomb that was the 1981 re-make where they cast as actor with no previous (or subsequent) professional experience as the lead, because "he looked good in the mask"   (insidemovies.ew.com ) divider line 73
    More: Fail, humans, Lone Rangers, Klinton Spilsbury, Jason Robards, Armie Hammer, Spilsbury, Johnny Depp, Klinton  
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2013-07-02 02:35:58 PM  
Wow.  this is either the story of the greatest Agent or worst casting director in the history of cinema.

Guy has NO prior acting experience,  and asks to cut the audtion scene short because he can;t remmeber that many lines and he still gets the job?

and then when he's an utter disaster on set, and inists the movie be shot sequentially, like a play because he isn;t enough of an actor to do scenes out of order, they go ahead and do that, adding millions to the budget, instead of just canning his ass?

And in the end they have to hire another actor with actual talent to re-dub all his lines because his delivery is that flat an unemotional?  Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan
 
2013-07-02 03:02:56 PM  

Magorn: Wow.  this is either the story of the greatest Agent or worst casting director in the history of cinema.

Guy has NO prior acting experience,  and asks to cut the audtion scene short because he can;t remmeber that many lines and he still gets the job?

and then when he's an utter disaster on set, and inists the movie be shot sequentially, like a play because he isn;t enough of an actor to do scenes out of order, they go ahead and do that, adding millions to the budget, instead of just canning his ass?

And in the end they have to hire another actor with actual talent to re-dub all his lines because his delivery is that flat an unemotional?  Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan


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2013-07-02 03:13:52 PM  
Long but fascinating article.

CSB: In the original Mad Max for the US release they dubbed Mel Gibson's lines with an American actor because they were afraid his accent would drive audiences away. Little did they know, nothing would drive audiences away from a Mel Gibson film until he came out as a Nazi 30 years later.
 
2013-07-02 03:15:11 PM  
I find it hard to believe that a man with a name like "Klinton Spilsbury" couldn't make it as an action hero. Really, the only thing that movie had going for it, apart from some pretty standard western action and Jason Robards hamming it up as a drunken Ulysses S. Grant (no, I am not making that up), was that Christopher Lloyd played the bad guy. That alone should warrant at least one viewing.
 
2013-07-02 03:16:54 PM  
I saw it. It wasnt bad.
 
2013-07-02 03:18:05 PM  
(reads TFA) oh wow, they actually gave this movie some serious and lengthy discussion. Good on them.
 
2013-07-02 03:18:57 PM  
"Tonto, starring Johnny Depp. With cameo by the Lone Ranger as played by...Ball-peen Hammer or some shiat" -Disney
 
2013-07-02 03:21:13 PM  

Magorn: Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan


I coulda swore they did do it for one of his movies.
 
2013-07-02 03:24:34 PM  

CraicBaby: Magorn: Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan

I coulda swore they did do it for one of his movies.


Hercules in New York
 
2013-07-02 03:25:13 PM  

CraicBaby: Magorn: Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan

I coulda swore they did do it for one of his movies.


Hercules in New York he was dubbed over, but in later releases the original Audio track was included except for the radio scene because Arnold never read those lines. He knew he was being dubbed over.
 
2013-07-02 03:26:05 PM  

show me: Long but fascinating article.

CSB: In the original Mad Max for the US release they dubbed Mel Gibson's lines with an American actor because they were afraid his accent would drive audiences away. Little did they know, nothing would drive audiences away from a Mel Gibson film until he came out as a Nazi 30 years later.


At this point isn't Alec Baldwin coming up strong on the inside.
Isn't gay the new Jew for the 2013 ?

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// hang in there Alec the public is fickle .
 
2013-07-02 03:41:45 PM  
Doesn't that basically describe George Lazenby's Bond as well? He woke up one day and decided he wanted to be Bond. Got the audition with just a commercial or two as experience won the role just because he looked good in the get up and could play fight really well.  They even dubbed him a few times in the movie.  I know it is a love it or hate it, but it is still  the top half.
 
2013-07-02 03:42:09 PM  
I used to watch Siskel and Ebert's "Sneak Previews" every week; this was when they started on PBS. I remember them reviewing this movie and panning it. And I remember Gene Siskel jokingly comment that the only good thing to come out of this movie was the name "Klinton Spilsbury " because it would be a trivia question for years to come.

and yes, the name Klinton Spilsbury stuck with me all these years. Can't remember to pay the phone bill, but I can remember "Klinton Spilsbury"
 
2013-07-02 03:43:41 PM  
We talking about Legend of the Lone Ranger?
I remember seeing that as a kid and even then thought it sucked.
They really bombed it when they went after Moore.
 
2013-07-02 03:43:51 PM  
It won't bomb. Consumers are easily led sheep. They will go see anything with Depp.
 
2013-07-02 03:46:05 PM  

CraicBaby: Magorn: Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan

I coulda swore they did do it for one of his movies.


I think it was "Hercules Goes Bananas" or something like that.

My uncle used to have a few Hollywood contacts at that time, especially in the Native American community.  He told us that for one of the "riding off dramtically" scenes, Michael Horse liked to jump the cue, and leave Klinton in the dust.
 
2013-07-02 03:46:44 PM  
I remember Cheerios promoting the film, for some reason, and was bummed that it never played in a theater near me.

Andie MacDowell bounced back pretty well after Glenn Close dubbed her voice in Greystoke.
 
2013-07-02 03:47:23 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: At this point isn't Alec Baldwin coming up strong on the inside.
Isn't gay the new Jew for the 2013 ?


bu-bu-bu-liberal!
It's funny how some people have very progressive, empathetic political views but are complete dicks in real life. I would put Woody Allen sort of in this category also, only less dickish and more creepy.
 
2013-07-02 03:55:10 PM  

Old Man Winter: Doesn't that basically describe George Lazenby's Bond as well? He woke up one day and decided he wanted to be Bond. Got the audition with just a commercial or two as experience won the role just because he looked good in the get up and could play fight really well.  They even dubbed him a few times in the movie.  I know it is a love it or hate it, but it is still  the top half.


I really liked On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Diana Rigg was really good in it, as was Kojak. Lazenby did a good job. The ending was one of the best, kind of like the new Casino Royale.
 
2013-07-02 03:56:00 PM  
So there will be three terrible Lone ranger movies in a row.

Remember this gem from 2003?  It was when the CW was trying to "Smallville" other heroes, like Tarzan or, in this case, the Teen Lone Ranger with Tonto, the Kung-Fu Warrior.
 
2013-07-02 04:07:32 PM  
Anyone else see that article as a giant wall of text?
 
2013-07-02 04:08:43 PM  
Where does the Lone Ranger take his trash?
 
2013-07-02 04:10:13 PM  
Clayton Moore was able to turn the "can't wear the Lone Ranger mask" suit by getting custom sunglasses from Foster Grant that were the shape of the mask, and do even more appearances.  He did a commercial for them:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQmVXi133dw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wj_3curhd0

And the best story from Jay Thomas:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2drGtq83eE

Trivia: Jack Wrather also owned the rights to Lassie.
 
2013-07-02 04:10:48 PM  
Klinton changed his name to Billy Zane:


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2013-07-02 04:12:02 PM  
The movie is not THAT bad. Spilsbury certainly looked the part. The script was really sloppy and the departures they made from the mythos were all wrongheaded. If you are in the right mood, and don't expect too much it is an enjoyable film.  It LOOKS positively gorgeous.
 
2013-07-02 04:15:03 PM  
I saw this movie in the theatre. Place was packed, because the theatre was having a sneak preview of some new movie with it. Best part of it was Grant playing pool.

That sneak was, of course, "Raiders of the Lost Ark". Still the best action film ever made.
 
2013-07-02 04:15:45 PM  

Old Man Winter: Doesn't that basically describe George Lazenby's Bond as well? He woke up one day and decided he wanted to be Bond. Got the audition with just a commercial or two as experience won the role just because he looked good in the get up and could play fight really well.  They even dubbed him a few times in the movie.  I know it is a love it or hate it, but it is still  the top half.


I think that was more of a case of Sean Connery being sick of the role and someone saying, "You're not bigger than Bond. Anyone can play Bond." So they got George Lazenby, who proved anyone COULDN'T play Bond, and they backed a truck full of money up to Sean Connery's house for "Diamonds Are Forever."
 
2013-07-02 04:17:22 PM  

fickenchucker: Klinton changed his name to Billy Zane:


The circle is complete.
 
2013-07-02 04:18:17 PM  
Saw the 81 film in theaters.  I really liked it as a kid.

Years later, I met "Tonto"'s daughter on a shoot.  Gorgeous, rocker chick.

CSB
 
2013-07-02 04:20:10 PM  
Dammit:

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2013-07-02 04:23:21 PM  

varmitydog: Where does the Lone Ranger take his trash?


To the dump, the dump, the dump-dump-dump.
 
2013-07-02 04:23:41 PM  
"as actor"
 
2013-07-02 04:32:14 PM  
The whole damn thing is on YouTube.
 
2013-07-02 04:35:54 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Magorn: Wow.  this is either the story of the greatest Agent or worst casting director in the history of cinema.

Guy has NO prior acting experience,  and asks to cut the audtion scene short because he can;t remmeber that many lines and he still gets the job?

and then when he's an utter disaster on set, and inists the movie be shot sequentially, like a play because he isn;t enough of an actor to do scenes out of order, they go ahead and do that, adding millions to the budget, instead of just canning his ass?

And in the end they have to hire another actor with actual talent to re-dub all his lines because his delivery is that flat an unemotional?  Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan

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HEY! That man had a seven shot six-shooter. What more do you want?
 
2013-07-02 04:38:07 PM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: Anyone else see that article as a giant wall of text?


yep.  paragraphs motherfarker, do you speak them.

looks like a good article but couldn't make it through the formatting
 
2013-07-02 04:42:44 PM  

Magorn: Wow.  this is either the story of the greatest Agent or worst casting director in the history of cinema.

Guy has NO prior acting experience,  and asks to cut the audtion scene short because he can;t remmeber that many lines and he still gets the job?

and then when he's an utter disaster on set, and inists the movie be shot sequentially, like a play because he isn;t enough of an actor to do scenes out of order, they go ahead and do that, adding millions to the budget, instead of just canning his ass?

And in the end they have to hire another actor with actual talent to re-dub all his lines because his delivery is that flat an unemotional?  Hell they didn;t even do that to Schwarzenegger back when he could barely speak Englsh when they shot Conan


Well, they did do that to Arnold for Hercules. He got so much better later on.
 
2013-07-02 04:43:48 PM  
I cannot find a clip on You Tube but one of my favorite Siskal & Ebert moments was their review of this terrible film. "Apparently the Lone Ranger used silver bullets because he was such a bad shot."

/ I have no Google abilities today or I'd post a link.
 
2013-07-02 04:49:31 PM  

Khazar-Khum: I saw this movie in the theatre. Place was packed, because the theatre was having a sneak preview of some new movie with it. Best part of it was Grant playing pool.

That sneak was, of course, "Raiders of the Lost Ark". Still the best action film ever made.


I saw it in the theater, too. I was 8. I remember being bored by it.

And yeah, "Raiders" is the best action movie ever made. Easily. The rest of the "Indiana Jones" movies...not so much. "Raiders" takes itself pretty seriously, which makes all the difference. The other movies are practically slapstick comedies.
 
2013-07-02 04:54:03 PM  

movieman_1979: I find it hard to believe that a man with a name like "Klinton Spilsbury" couldn't make it as an action hero. Really, the only thing that movie had going for it, apart from some pretty standard western action and Jason Robards hamming it up as a drunken Ulysses S. Grant (no, I am not making that up), was that Christopher Lloyd played the bad guy. That alone should warrant at least one viewing.


Thank you, because I honestly thought I dreamt that movie.
 
2013-07-02 04:54:50 PM  
Based on the trailer, Johnny Depp has the exact same mannerisms and voice as Jack Sparrow. But I guess if 5 POTC movies aren't enough, trot it out again!
 
2013-07-02 04:57:09 PM  

NotoriousW.O.P: I think that was more of a case of Sean Connery being sick of the role and someone saying, "You're not bigger than Bond. Anyone can play Bond." So they got George Lazenby, who proved anyone COULDN'T play Bond, and they backed a truck full of money up to Sean Connery's house for "Diamonds Are Forever."


Bullshiat.

Lazenby acquitted himself quite well in the role and farked up his own career by refusing to do Diamonds Are Forever.

OHMSS is considered one of the better Bond films, and was seriously underrated until recently.
 
2013-07-02 05:02:00 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
Still the best recent Rangers...
And since it was mentioned:
www.boxofficeprophets.com
 
2013-07-02 05:02:34 PM  

movieman_1979: Jason Robards hamming it up as a drunken Ulysses S. Grant (no, I am not making that up)


Why should you have to make that up? Grant was a well-known and prolific drunkard.

"[F]ind out what he drinks, and send my other commanders a case." -Abraham Lincoln
 
2013-07-02 05:07:56 PM  

jake3988: Based on the trailer, Johnny Depp has the exact same mannerisms and voice as Jack Sparrow. But I guess if 5 POTC movies aren't enough, trot it out again!


Dont forget his characterization of HS Thompson.
 
2013-07-02 05:15:51 PM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: Anyone else see that article as a giant wall of text?


Yeah...one big honkin' paragraph.  I scanned down it, said "uh, no", and came here for the recap.
 
2013-07-02 05:43:27 PM  

RickN99: Handsome B. Wonderful: Anyone else see that article as a giant wall of text?

Yeah...one big honkin' paragraph.  I scanned down it, said "uh, no", and came here for the recap.


It sounds like an interesting article. I saw the movie, wasn't bad, wasn't great. But that block of small words in a big ass paragraph made me think it was not worth the headache that will come after reading it.

BTW: Val Kilmer was cast in the Zuckers underrated classic Top Secret! with no acting experience either
 
2013-07-02 05:51:00 PM  
One of Clayton Moore's first leading roles was the serial "Perils of Nyoka" and he was cast because he look a lot like the stuntman who would be doubling him.
 
2013-07-02 05:57:02 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: show me: Long but fascinating article.

CSB: In the original Mad Max for the US release they dubbed Mel Gibson's lines with an American actor because they were afraid his accent would drive audiences away. Little did they know, nothing would drive audiences away from a Mel Gibson film until he came out as a Nazi 30 years later.

At this point isn't Alec Baldwin coming up strong on the inside.
Isn't gay the new Jew for the 2013 ?

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 183x275]

// hang in there Alec the public is fickle .


Not sure how he's relevant but what secret does he have aside from being a big asshole IRL? Lots of people are afflicted with that.

I'm pretty sure if he were gay he'd have come out a long time ago. Look at his politics- he'd hardly care to stay closetted especially in this day and age.
 
2013-07-02 06:01:52 PM  

Madbassist1: I saw it. It wasnt bad.



Seconded. As an 11 year-old the whole idea of a lone surviving Texas Ranger going after the people that killed his brother and (so the bad guys thought) him, was pretty cool. And the scene where he rides in to save Tonto from being hanged, shooting the rope in half, all in front of a too-in-awe-of-what's-happening-in-front-of-them lynch mob was pure movie magic. UNTIL I saw the scene again on Youtube just a few days ago. It was actually pretty damn goofy.
 
2013-07-02 06:20:30 PM  
The producers of the 1981 remake poisoned there project when they forced Clayton Moore the original Lone ranger to stop where the mask.

It pissed fans off and contributed to the epic floppage.
 
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