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(Daily Mail)   Meet the autistic three-year-old girl whose paintings are already fetching thousands of dollars   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 44
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2013-07-02 10:39:32 AM  
well thats retarded
 
2013-07-02 10:46:28 AM  
Actually, no piece of art has any objective value. It is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it. Not one penny more or one penny less.

This doesn't mean the cute little girl is awesome, only that somebody was willing to give a lot of money for her painting.
 
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2013-07-02 10:49:20 AM  
I think it's cool that she is artistic at such a young age.
 
2013-07-02 11:07:23 AM  

vpb: I think it's cool that she is artistic at such a young age.


every kid is.
and every kids looks just as crappy as that ones
 
2013-07-02 11:37:37 AM  
Art isn't art until the right people say it is. Then others agree and follow. And they vote with their pocketbooks.

I'm glad they showed more than one of her paintings. The only way to appreciate an artist's work is to see a body of their work. Looking at one piece of an artist's work is like trying to speak to someone, and they only say one word.
 
2013-07-02 11:58:49 AM  
I like the ones they showed. I wouldn't pay that much for them but I'd have them in my house.
 
2013-07-02 12:22:26 PM  
That painting will look great next to my Brassau.
 
2013-07-02 12:27:48 PM  
I'm not really an art person, I guess.  I thought the last one was at least interesting and none were hideous to me, but that kind of painting really isn't my thing.  That said, that kid is adorable and I'm glad she found something she enjoys.
 
2013-07-02 12:34:16 PM  

Relatively Obscure: I thought the last one was at least interesting and none were hideous to me, but that kind of painting really isn't my thing.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a revulsion to modern art.  That's called "being normal".
 
2013-07-02 01:23:59 PM  
That's nothing. I know of a finger painting by a class of kindergartners that sold for $50,000.
 
2013-07-02 01:43:52 PM  
Portrait of the Autist as a young girl
 
2013-07-02 02:28:15 PM  
And this is why it must suck to try to be a professional in a completely subjective field. You can work your whole life and unless you have the right rich person vouch for you you won't make anything near what this girl makes for her doodles. Good for her, though.
 
2013-07-02 02:31:48 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Portrait of the Autist as a young girl


WIN!
 
2013-07-02 02:54:23 PM  

Barfmaker: I like the ones they showed. I wouldn't pay that much for them but I'd have them in my house.


Same here.  They were actually quite nice.

And on the topic of autistic artists:

mymeproject.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-02 03:02:41 PM  
Bet you're glad you got all those vaccines now, eh?
 
2013-07-02 03:05:37 PM  
pity money. maybe i should act handicapped so my job would give me a raise
 
2013-07-02 03:14:40 PM  
My Kid Could Paint That
 
2013-07-02 03:14:57 PM  
Only now they will call her "Cristobar!"
 
2013-07-02 03:18:20 PM  

Godscrack: Art isn't art until the right people say it is.


Normally Charles Saatchi.

A few years ago a guy who was in the Brit Art (I forget his name) set pissed off Charles Saatchi, who had brought some of his work. Saatchi basically went home and threw out his collection of this guys work. The next day the guys work went from being worth thousands of dollars a piece to being worth nothing.
 
2013-07-02 03:28:18 PM  
I hate to be That Person, but this art probably wouldn't have been looked at twice if the kid weren't autistic.

/Just sayin'
/Good on her.  Wish I could do visual art.  Genuinely envious
 
2013-07-02 03:35:28 PM  
Do a GIS for Nadia horse drawings for another example of autistic savant art. Or read  http://nliventech.net/downloads/ebooks/rawvision_december/chapter5.ht m l . However, I became very suspicious when the author said "Today, she decides not to perform just for my benefit. Instead, she watches Tom And Jerry cartoons and chuckles at the jokes." There have been more than a few recent cases of children heralded as child geniuses whose minders somehow make sure no one actually sees them doing the work. Because, you know, they didn't do it. Also, I've seen very few photographs of people with autism smiling, she seems awfully cheerful for a child who prefers to go naked who somehow got stuffed into a dress for the photo shoot, and the whole point of autism is that you can't chuckle at Tom and Jerry cartoons because you don't get it. I'm not saying this kid isn't genuine, there are plenty of savants who are, but if this girl's a fake (or rather, her parents are), then this is exactly the kind of write-up/bait-and-switch you'd expect to see.
 
2013-07-02 03:49:38 PM  

kvinesknows: well thats retarded


That, was wonderful.
 
2013-07-02 04:14:48 PM  

kvinesknows: well thats retarded


Autism is not mental retardation you putz
 
2013-07-02 04:27:35 PM  

Godscrack: Art isn't art until the right people say it is. Then others agree and follow. And they vote with their pocketbooks.

I'm glad they showed more than one of her paintings. The only way to appreciate an artist's work is to see a body of their work. Looking at one piece of an artist's work is like trying to speak to someone, and they only say one word.


Wut?
 
2013-07-02 04:29:26 PM  

apacheco: pity money. maybe i should act handicapped so my job would give me a raise


Maybe ptiy is the only reason you have the job you currently do.
 
2013-07-02 04:52:04 PM  

The Incredible Sexual Egg: Autism is not mental retardation you putz


You sound autistic.
 
2013-07-02 04:53:19 PM  

The Incredible Sexual Egg: kvinesknows: well thats retarded

Autism is not mental retardation you putz


hey ralph malph!  hows it going?
 
2013-07-02 05:09:42 PM  
It is a quirk of her autism that she insists on carrying something in her left hand - at the moment it is a pink plastic spoon - at all times and she does not like wearing clothes.

So all the other 3 year olds in history who like to snatch up whatever isn't nailed down and strip off their clothes, much to their parents' chargrin or amusement, are autistic?

I don't buy it.
 
2013-07-02 06:00:11 PM  
Somebody inform  Subby that 850 pounds is not "thousands of dollars"...
 
2013-07-02 06:06:15 PM  

docmattic: Wut?


Sorry, I forgot this was Fark :)
 
2013-07-02 06:35:23 PM  
I used to think it was 'artistic' instead of 'autistic'. Guess I wasn't entirely wrong.
 
2013-07-02 06:59:22 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: I hate to be That Person, but this art probably wouldn't have been looked at twice if the kid weren't autistic.

/Just sayin'
/Good on her.  Wish I could do visual art.  Genuinely envious


I am actually an artist by trade and through my schooling. Completely fed-up with the intellectual artists and the bullshiat surrounding art, I had a gallery showing where I had created all of the pieces in the exhibit - however, with the consent of some of the other kids in class, I had their names on the art with a brief bio of the artists and the process of the pieces (fictitious).  We had some visiting artists, art critics, and professors come to the show and their responses were absolutely hilarious. They responded so well to the pieces tagged with the batshiat intellectual story and persona I had created, and completely scoffed at pieces tagged with the real story and process. Keep in mind, all of the art was the same style, created using the same mixed materials and process I used. After I let them ramble about this and go on their little intellectual journey, I revealed to them the truth.

This was documented and included in a thesis paper that I wrote about the meaning of art. The fact of the matter is, and I tell students with dreams of grandeur all the time this, it has less to do with the art and piece itself, than your marketing abilities and process. Art is supposed to be sacred and we try to find a higher meaning behind it, however it is just as fake as the self-tanned "blondes" in the bar.
 
2013-07-02 07:09:35 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: I hate to be That Person, but this art probably wouldn't have been looked at twice if the kid weren't autistic.

/Just sayin'
/Good on her.  Wish I could do visual art.  Genuinely envious

I am actually an artist by trade and through my schooling. Completely fed-up with the intellectual artists and the bullshiat surrounding art, I had a gallery showing where I had created all of the pieces in the exhibit - however, with the consent of some of the other kids in class, I had their names on the art with a brief bio of the artists and the process of the pieces (fictitious).  We had some visiting artists, art critics, and professors come to the show and their responses were absolutely hilarious. They responded so well to the pieces tagged with the batshiat intellectual story and persona I had created, and completely scoffed at pieces tagged with the real story and process. Keep in mind, all of the art was the same style, created using the same mixed materials and process I used. After I let them ramble about this and go on their little intellectual journey, I revealed to them the truth.

This was documented and included in a thesis paper that I wrote about the meaning of art. The fact of the matter is, and I tell students with dreams of grandeur all the time this, it has less to do with the art and piece itself, than your marketing abilities and process. Art is supposed to be sacred and we try to find a higher meaning behind it, however it is just as fake as the self-tanned "blondes" in the bar.


Huh, interesting. I never much "got" art but I get business and I wonder if this was a career limiting move for you? You're young-ish I assume?

I have a good friend who loves visits to the art gallery but I can't go anymore, I just feel beyond stupid, I totally don't get why the pile called "42 pieces of felt" is art when in my garage waiting for recycle day is a pile called "42 pieces of cardboard".
 
2013-07-02 07:51:35 PM  

clambam: Do a GIS for Nadia horse drawings for another example of autistic savant art. Or read  http://nliventech.net/downloads/ebooks/rawvision_december/chapter5.ht m l . However, I became very suspicious when the author said "Today, she decides not to perform just for my benefit. Instead, she watches Tom And Jerry cartoons and chuckles at the jokes." There have been more than a few recent cases of children heralded as child geniuses whose minders somehow make sure no one actually sees them doing the work. Because, you know, they didn't do it. Also, I've seen very few photographs of people with autism smiling, she seems awfully cheerful for a child who prefers to go naked who somehow got stuffed into a dress for the photo shoot, and the whole point of autism is that you can't chuckle at Tom and Jerry cartoons because you don't get it. I'm not saying this kid isn't genuine, there are plenty of savants who are, but if this girl's a fake (or rather, her parents are), then this is exactly the kind of write-up/bait-and-switch you'd expect to see.


We have friends with an autistic 15 yo son. He smiles all the time. All. the. time. He also laughs. He loves to watch cartoons. He has his favorites memorized and will blurt out a line and giggle or laugh manically. It's pretty funny the first dozen times.
 
2013-07-02 07:58:08 PM  

clambam: Do a GIS for Nadia horse drawings for another example of autistic savant art. Or read  http://nliventech.net/downloads/ebooks/rawvision_december/chapter5.ht m l . However, I became very suspicious when the author said "Today, she decides not to perform just for my benefit. Instead, she watches Tom And Jerry cartoons and chuckles at the jokes." There have been more than a few recent cases of children heralded as child geniuses whose minders somehow make sure no one actually sees them doing the work. Because, you know, they didn't do it. Also, I've seen very few photographs of people with autism smiling, she seems awfully cheerful for a child who prefers to go naked who somehow got stuffed into a dress for the photo shoot, and the whole point of autism is that you can't chuckle at Tom and Jerry cartoons because you don't get it. I'm not saying this kid isn't genuine, there are plenty of savants who are, but if this girl's a fake (or rather, her parents are), then this is exactly the kind of write-up/bait-and-switch you'd expect to see.


I think we can trust the journalistic integrity of the Daily Mail to root out such a ruse, don't you?

They have a reputation to protect!
 
2013-07-02 08:19:55 PM  
Her art is really only worth .2034

/Or, about a hundred dollars.
 
2013-07-02 09:05:46 PM  

Barfmaker: I like the ones they showed. I wouldn't pay that much for them but I'd have them in my house.


Yeah, ^this^. To hell with the haters. I don't even like modern art and I can tell this stuff is good. That is to say, if you put a bunch of it in front of me and included her stuff I would probably put many of her pieces in the top 10%.

i.imgur.com

No, seriously. I'm not bullshiatting. Look at her painting up there. Ok, now do a GIS for Jackson Pollock and tell me which one (just based on aesthetics) you'd rather have on your wall. I've scrolled several pages down and can't even find even one that I like better.
 
2013-07-02 11:20:00 PM  

clambam: Do a GIS for Nadia horse drawings for another example of autistic savant art. Or read  http://nliventech.net/downloads/ebooks/rawvision_december/chapter5.ht m l . However, I became very suspicious when the author said "Today, she decides not to perform just for my benefit. Instead, she watches Tom And Jerry cartoons and chuckles at the jokes." There have been more than a few recent cases of children heralded as child geniuses whose minders somehow make sure no one actually sees them doing the work. Because, you know, they didn't do it. Also, I've seen very few photographs of people with autism smiling, she seems awfully cheerful for a child who prefers to go naked who somehow got stuffed into a dress for the photo shoot, and the whole point of autism is that you can't chuckle at Tom and Jerry cartoons because you don't get it. I'm not saying this kid isn't genuine, there are plenty of savants who are, but if this girl's a fake (or rather, her parents are), then this is exactly the kind of write-up/bait-and-switch you'd expect to see.


You assume that autistic children don't smile, laugh, or get humor. Some do, just not the way we do.

My youngest son is high functioning autistic and has Asperger's. It is fascinating the things that he
finds amusing. When he was a toddler, he would watch MXC (the Japanese obstacle course game
show) and would just giggle his little head off through the entire thing. He's 12 years old now and
he does the same thing when he watches Wipeout.
 
2013-07-02 11:23:39 PM  
Definitely a good painter. Something, Wapner, something, something K-Mart.
 
2013-07-03 01:00:53 AM  

Zombalupagus: Barfmaker: I like the ones they showed. I wouldn't pay that much for them but I'd have them in my house.

Yeah, ^this^. To hell with the haters. I don't even like modern art and I can tell this stuff is good. That is to say, if you put a bunch of it in front of me and included her stuff I would probably put many of her pieces in the top 10%.

[i.imgur.com image 634x476]

No, seriously. I'm not bullshiatting. Look at her painting up there. Ok, now do a GIS for Jackson Pollock and tell me which one (just based on aesthetics) you'd rather have on your wall. I've scrolled several pages down and can't even find even one that I like better.


That doesn't really make it  better, though--it just means you like one more than the other.

Liking something doesn't make it good; conversely, disliking something doesn't make it bad.

Figuring out what makes art good is an endless, although worthwhile, pursuit.
 
2013-07-03 01:12:24 AM  

Zombalupagus: Ok, now do a GIS for Jackson Pollock


You compare a new scam to an old one in order to validate the new one? Hey everybody, this politician ain't a criminal... now Nixon, he was a criminal . . .
 
2013-07-03 02:12:22 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Zombalupagus: Ok, now do a GIS for Jackson Pollock

You compare a new scam to an old one in order to validate the new one? Hey everybody, this politician ain't a criminal... now Nixon, he was a criminal . . .


You imply art and love of art is a scam though, so your argument is kind of invalid. While you, and others, may not like or appreciate art in its many forms, there are people who do, so stop being a hater nobody is telling you to buy this little child's artwork.

/stop liking things i don't like.jpg
 
2013-07-03 04:35:05 AM  

Tooterfish: HotWingAgenda: Zombalupagus: Ok, now do a GIS for Jackson Pollock

You compare a new scam to an old one in order to validate the new one? Hey everybody, this politician ain't a criminal... now Nixon, he was a criminal . . .

You imply art and love of art is a scam though, so your argument is kind of invalid. While you, and others, may not like or appreciate art in its many forms, there are people who do, so stop being a hater nobody is telling you to buy this little child's artwork.

/stop liking things i don't like.jpg


I don't dislike art. I love art. I make art. Jackson Pollock was never a real artist, just a guy that scammed people into buying random splatters.

Objectively, according to google:

"jackson pollock is a shiatty artist" - 3,460,000 results
"jackson pollock is a great artist" - 2,490,000 results
 
2013-07-03 07:37:26 AM  
I work for a school for the.mentally handicapped. None of the students in that school has a tenth the artistic ability displayed by this girl. Also, whoever posted that kids with autism don't smile (I don't feel like scrolling back up to check), that's bullshiat. My autistic students smile and laugh all the damn time, sometimes at random, but sometimes at things they see. There's an arc to it, and the higher functioning kids totally get Tom and Jerry (or whatever else they watch).
 
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