Mangoose: I know Zeppelin had a great rhythm section, but that's taking it a little too far.
raerae1980: Mangoose: I know Zeppelin had a great rhythm section, but that's taking it a little too far.If ONLY that was what was going on.I can't believe this shiat is taken seriously.
manimal2878: ...and he is credited with a miracle that took place 6 years after he died? Please. People actually believe this shiat?
Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: John Paul II made sure my microwave burrito was a uniform temperature throughout.
ZAZ: In the early days of the Roman Catholic Church, martyrdom was the more usual grounds for sainthood than the performance of miracles, which in modern days are mostly posthumous.Beatification by martyrdom is also posthumous.
MaudlinMutantMollusk: raerae1980: Mangoose: I know Zeppelin had a great rhythm section, but that's taking it a little too far.If ONLY that was what was going on.I can't believe this shiat is taken seriously.That. Right there.
ZAZ: manimal2878Catholic doctrine says saints do not perform miracles directly, but intercede on your behalf to persuade God to work a miracle. Divine lobbyists, you could call them. The miracles are evidence that the deceased is in heaven. I suppose the damned are not as persuasive when it comes to asking for favors.
KrispyKritter: MaudlinMutantMollusk: raerae1980: Mangoose: I know Zeppelin had a great rhythm section, but that's taking it a little too far.If ONLY that was what was going on.I can't believe this shiat is taken seriously.That. Right there.yous are aware there are many religions in which people perform rituals and accept by faith, right? these things are nothing new. millions around the globe participate. it may offend your sensibilities but it shouldn't be hard to believe these things take place.
ZAZ: Catholic doctrine says saints do not perform miracles directly, but intercede on your behalf to persuade God to work a miracle.
illannoyin: 'Vatican Miracle Judges' is the cool band name of the day.
Shirley Ujest: Back when I was a Catholic and kinda sorta believed , I never prayed to the "popular" saints because I figured they were backed up. I prayed to the obscure ones on my behalf for whatever a 8-12 year old girl needs. They totally let me down.
CowboyJeff: If we can interrupt the usual Fark (c) Catholic Bashing, lets look at some facts. When Pope John Pal II came into office the world was in the middle of a cold war that everyone assumed would end in mushroom clouds all over the world. President Reagan formed a secret alliance with AFL-CIO president Lane Kirkland and the Pope to secretly get money and equipment to the Polish Soidarity movement. The Bulgarian secret police (the same one that sent aid and wepons to Nelson Mandela) tried to assinate the Pope, and failed. Soldarity succeded in overthrowing the Polish government and then like dominoes the whole Soviet bloc collapsed, the Berlin Wall fell and then the Soviet Union collapsed....ALL WITHOUT A SHOT BEING FIRED....NO MUSHROOM CLOUDS...for a child of the cold war, that sounds like a miracle to me..and I am not even Catholic.
gimmegimme: That's strange...your definition of "miracle" seems to strongly resemble "things people did."
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