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(Rotten Tomatoes)   Let's check to see how Johnny Depp's latest is faring with the critics. Hi yo Silver   (rottentomatoes.com) divider line 120
    More: Fail, Johnny Depp, Lone Ranger, Gore Verbinski, Wild Wild West, Internet forum, Barry Sonnenfeld, Jerry Bruckheimer, Armie Hammer  
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2013-07-02 04:35:22 PM  

Confabulat: Lodger: The 80's Lone Ranger didn't tank because nobody could remember him.  Far from it.  What happened was that the actor from the TV series had been going around going to conventions dressed up as the LONE RANGER.  This had been going on for years and years (the show ended in 1954).  He wouldn't have done them if people didn't know who he (or the character) was.

omg I remember that. Ha, internet outrage before the internet.


If you want to use that term, I guess.  The Lone Ranger had built a following for decades, it's not like some Twilight flash-in-the-pan flavor of the moment.
 
2013-07-02 04:45:03 PM  

GRCooper: steverockson: LV426: GRCooper: serpent_sky: steverockson: A reviewer I read said that Depp just played the part of Captain Jack Sparrow as a Native American. If that's true then this will be a hard pass from me and an epic fail.  If you're a white dude playing a Native American you better be respectful.  Otherwise it comes across as playing an African American in blackface.  I was afraid this would happen when I read that Depp would be playing Tonto.

Isn't Johnny Depp actually part Cherokee Indian? And even a little more than the "my great-great uncle seven times removed may have been Native American" but actually it's pretty strong in his bloodline?

Yes and no. The interview snippet I saw he said "I'm part Cherokee, or Chocktaw, or Creek or something"

That's like saying "I'm part Scottish, or Welsh, or Irish or something".

/part Cherokee, still a honkey

It's starting to sound like all the people (my mother included) who believed some bull story that their great grandmother was a Native American princess. No and No. If I recall the rules correctly you have to have proof that you are more than 50 percent blood line to be considered a Native American. And there is no such thing as a Native American princess so stop.

So attention Johnny Depp YOU ARE NOT A NATIVE AMERICAN just because a tribe decided to steal some publicity by making you a member of the tribe still doesn't make you Native American. So yes STILL A HONKEY!!!!

According to the actual tribes you only have to prove that one of your ancestors was a Native American. I know this because I am a member of the Cherokee tribe.  I have a CDIB card that says I'm 1/256th Cherokee (even though I'm more than that, it's all I can prove). But still I have all the priviledges that go along with being a tribe member.

Interesting. I'm 128th Cherokee.

What are these priveledges?


Overactive tear ducts, alcoholism, and the ability to wear fringe without looking gay.
 
2013-07-02 04:46:13 PM  

steverockson: A reviewer I read said that Depp just played the part of Captain Jack Sparrow as a Native American. If that's true then this will be a hard pass from me and an epic fail.  If you're a white dude playing a Native American you better be respectful.  Otherwise it comes across as playing an African American in blackface.  I was afraid this would happen when I read that Depp would be playing Tonto.


I heard a lot about it and read exposes and I'd like to watch it once to show my editors.
 
2013-07-02 05:04:14 PM  
A bloated, over-budget studio tentpole movie may not be good?

Color me shocked.
 
2013-07-02 06:05:25 PM  
If you discover your culture, it isn't your culture. Doesn't matter what the genetics are.
 
2013-07-02 06:16:55 PM  
Capt.Sobel approves.

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2013-07-02 07:06:11 PM  

kim jong-un: If you discover your culture, it isn't your culture. Doesn't matter what the genetics are.


Don't tell the people who invented kwanza....
 
2013-07-02 07:23:15 PM  
Who didn't expect this? I mean really.
 
2013-07-02 07:53:57 PM  

Lunchlady: Who didn't expect this? I mean really.


Yeah, seeing a horse gallop through a train while her rider is shooting through the windows at another train reminded me of a submarine surfacing in the canals of Venice... or maybe a villain's evil iceberg lair, composed mostly of ice, exploding and then sinking.  Beneath the waves.  Waves made of water.  Which is heavier than ice.

So yeah, it's going to suck as much as League of Extraordinary Gentleman and  G.I. Joedid.

It's not necessarily the impossibly powerful yet amazingly recoilless laser guns (like in  Eraser) or the completely illogical science that kills action movies (like the time travel in every movie ever except Primer).  It's when they try to mess with the most basic laws of the universe that even non-physicists can understand: large things like horses don't fit into small things like train compartment aisles, and jumping into deep water is not the same at eighty feet as it is at ten.
 
2013-07-02 08:14:33 PM  

FlashHarry: GavinTheAlmighty: Arnie Hammer sounds like a porn star's name.

even better, it's armie hammer.

as in armand hammer, the famous oil tycoon.


By "oil tycoon," do you mean "baking soda tycoon"?
 
2013-07-02 10:34:04 PM  

thegod082: FlashHarry: GavinTheAlmighty: Arnie Hammer sounds like a porn star's name.

even better, it's armie hammer.

as in armand hammer, the famous oil tycoon.

By "oil tycoon," do you mean "baking soda tycoon"?


He was mostly an oil tycoon. Also a communist, oddly enough.
 
2013-07-02 11:37:20 PM  

thornhill: Despite the half-dozen trailers, I have no clue what the movie is about besides it having as many explosions as Transformers. But I suppose that's good enough for most people.


Pretty much this. 
I went to see Monsters U, expecting to finally get a good look at the Lone Ranger. I still have no idea what it's about. 
I really wanted this to be good. Probably won't waste my time now. 

I'm finding I enjoy independent films on Netflix more than any big budget, SPLOSIONS!!!! type movie.
 
2013-07-03 02:41:42 AM  

devilEther: IdBeCrazyIf: I've read and seen that it plays out as the tale told from the perspective of the side kick Tonto, kind of like Big Trouble in Little China. And honestly if that's the case, that's enough for me to plunk cash to see.

thanks, up til now I was quite perplexed as to why they cast a high-profile A-list actor as Tonto and a relative unknown for the titular role


Relative unknown? Check his filmography and get back to us.
 
2013-07-03 08:00:12 AM  

Big Beef Burrito: Overactive tear ducts, alcoholism, and the ability to wear fringe without looking gay.


Holy sh-t but that's funny. Full point.
 
2013-07-03 08:10:30 AM  

kim jong-un: If you discover your culture, it isn't your culture. Doesn't matter what the genetics are.


Given that many Native American groups thought the character of Tonto was just a racist caricature when the show came out, I don't really think they give a shiat if he's being played by a paleface.

That would be like Al Sharpton pitching a fit that Jim Carrey got cast in the Amos and Andy reboot.
 
2013-07-03 09:43:05 AM  

InmanRoshi: I can hardly remember the last good movie Depp was in.    The Tim Burton and Pirate movies have been absolutely unwatchable.     I would say he needs to resuscitate the Shantaram adaptation, but I'm afraid it would turn an otherwise good book into a star vehicle clunker (see Seven Years in Tibet).


I liked the first pirate movie, and the second was entertaining, but the third was dumb and I didn't bother with the 4th.

I have avoided all of the burton movies after sleepy hollow, which I really liked.
 
2013-07-03 10:05:54 AM  

The Banana Thug: devilEther: IdBeCrazyIf: I've read and seen that it plays out as the tale told from the perspective of the side kick Tonto, kind of like Big Trouble in Little China. And honestly if that's the case, that's enough for me to plunk cash to see.

thanks, up til now I was quite perplexed as to why they cast a high-profile A-list actor as Tonto and a relative unknown for the titular role

Relative unknown? Check his filmography and get back to us.


I instead spent an hour interviewing passersby on the street. Here's a summary of my results:

Q: "Are you a Johnny Depp fan?"
A: "Yes, I love him?" -OR- "No, I don't care for his work."
Q: "Are you an Armie Hammer fan?"
A: "Who?"

So as you can see, relative to Johnny Depp's worldwide fame and status as a household name, Armie Hammer is an unknown.
 
2013-07-03 10:25:58 AM  

manimal2878: I have avoided all of the burton movies after sleepy hollow, which I really liked.


I once stayed up until 2:30 just to watch that.
 
2013-07-03 01:39:24 PM  

liam76: kim jong-un: If you discover your culture, it isn't your culture. Doesn't matter what the genetics are.

Don't tell the people who invented kwanza....


Discovering a culture and inventing a culture are two different things.
 
2013-07-03 09:46:09 PM  

anfrind: liam76: kim jong-un: If you discover your culture, it isn't your culture. Doesn't matter what the genetics are.

Don't tell the people who invented kwanza....

Discovering a culture and inventing a culture are two different things.


There is a lot if resistance to it being 'invented' vice rediscovered.
 
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