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2013-07-02 12:39:41 PM  
This is the problem with having lots and lots of experience with a dangerous thing. You start subconsciously thinking "If Nightmare Scenario X were going to happen, it would have happened by now." And without really thinking about it, you start skipping that one tedious step that gets in your way every day, because it only matters if Nightmare Scenario X happens, and Nightmare Scenario X will never happen. And you enjoy your work that little bit more, and everyone admires how good you are with that dangerous thing. And then one day Nightmare Scenario X happens, and no one can understand how that could have possibly happened.
 
2013-07-02 12:41:20 PM  

dslknowitall: This is why I brought my 5 and 6 year old out into the garage this past weekend and showed them how to use a table saw with a push stick and to wait until the blade stops to grab your cut.

Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".


Make sure you show them all the holes and dents in the wall behind the saw where the little slivers of wood got rocketed off the table.

/That shiat hurts.
//Don't stand behind the blade.
///Once saw a guy puree his thumb with a 3/4 dado blade
////CSB.
 
2013-07-02 12:43:21 PM  

imfallen_angel: I've used a wood chipper and know for a fact, no ifs or buts about it, you do NOT under ANY circumstances do anything in regards to blockage where opening it is required until there is absolutely nothing moving about it, inside it, or have someone within 10 feet from it (less they hit the gas by accident and restart it).


This goes for basically every machine bigger than a blender.  If there's no absolutely compelling reason why you must leave it running, shut it off and wait for it to stop.
 
2013-07-02 12:44:59 PM  

NutWrench: Chapman shut off the machine and went to remove the protective shield from the interior of the chipper when the shield caught on the wheel, which was still spinning, Daley said. The shield struck Chapman's chest, causing a puncture wound.

How is this possible? I'm not an expert on wood chippers but are the shields completely removable? Shouldn't they be on a bracket or a swing-arm that keeps them away from any spinning parts?


No, when blocked, you need to get in there and get the piece out of the blade.

I recommends using a hammer and longest chisel/screwdriver you can find or something similar, carefully(small taps) on the piece that's causing the blockage, avoiding hitting the blade (or any other metal parts).

It's a nasty job depending on the chipper, it's made to be very hard to go in the blade compartment on some models (as per the one I've used).  It required several bolts to be removed, the whole chute assembly, etc.

All that because a small but very hard part of a root or branch had managed to get sideways and jammed the blade.  Took a good hour (if not more) to open and then close the machine and about 20 minutes to punch the piece of wood out.
 
2013-07-02 12:50:33 PM  
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2013-07-02 12:51:01 PM  

you have pee hands: imfallen_angel: I've used a wood chipper and know for a fact, no ifs or buts about it, you do NOT under ANY circumstances do anything in regards to blockage where opening it is required until there is absolutely nothing moving about it, inside it, or have someone within 10 feet from it (less they hit the gas by accident and restart it).

This goes for basically every machine bigger than a blender.  If there's no absolutely compelling reason why you must leave it running, shut it off and wait for it to stop.


bigger than a blender? heck, even a hand-held mixer can rid fingers off... I always have rules for any machine that I need to work on.

A) never have anyone standing close unless it's a 2 (or more) person job and even then, have them close only when needed.

B) unless you absolutely need power to the machine to test something, unplug it, turn it off, if any safeguard can be used, use them (a lock, removal of the grabby/cutting part)

C) have a clue to what you're doing and teach it to anyone that you can, as long as you actually do it right (not just believe that you do).

D) keep the know-it-all without a clue away from the tool/device
 
2013-07-02 12:51:37 PM  
rid = rip

I can't write good this morning.
 
2013-07-02 01:00:01 PM  
There are much worse ways to die by a wood chipper accident.
 
2013-07-02 01:01:49 PM  
Summer=wood chipper accidents

Winter=snow blower accidents
 
2013-07-02 01:03:20 PM  

imfallen_angel: rid = rip

I can't write good well this morning.


there you go...
 
2013-07-02 01:04:11 PM  
I prefer the Friday the 13th version ... because money comes out the other end.
 
2013-07-02 01:05:48 PM  

you have pee hands: This goes for basically every machine bigger than a blender.


or exactly blender-sized...
 
2013-07-02 01:10:17 PM  

dslknowitall: Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".


Any machine does.
 
2013-07-02 01:14:35 PM  

dslknowitall: This is why I brought my 5 and 6 year old out into the garage this past weekend and showed them how to use a table saw with a push stick and to wait until the blade stops to grab your cut.

Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".


Remember that most power tools have parts that were manufactured by Khorne industries.
 
2013-07-02 01:16:45 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: imfallen_angel: rid = rip

I can't write good well this morning.

there you go...


That was the joke....
 
2013-07-02 01:20:17 PM  
Hope they paid close attention to the cleaning part of the lesson.
 
2013-07-02 01:23:33 PM  

imfallen_angel: Pray 4 Mojo: imfallen_angel: rid = rip

I can't write good well this morning.

there you go...

That was the joke....


I'm aware...

(I was playing along)
 
2013-07-02 01:26:23 PM  

hammettman: Did the friends go ahead and borrow the wood chipper, now that they learned what not to do?


goddamit. Almost. Now I have half a glass of predigested Coca-Cola.
 
2013-07-02 01:26:44 PM  
I hope his friends get someone else to show them how to use and clean a woodchipper.  Rule farking one: don't stick any body part you're fond of into the machine, or start any sort of maintenance until the machine has come to a full stop. Rule two: I'm not kidding about rule one.

Tried to save himself a minute or two by starting to remove the protective shields before the machine had come to a full stop.  It cost him his life.  Sad and 100% preventable.
 
2013-07-02 01:36:50 PM  

dslknowitall: This is why I brought my 5 and 6 year old out into the garage this past weekend and showed them how to use a table saw with a push stick and to wait until the blade stops to grab your cut.

Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".


So much this. Also warn them about wearing gloves and/or loose clothing.

/Grew up working in a tool and die shop
//took breaking both bones in my left forearm to teach me not to wear gloves while running the lathe
/// hot chips be damned
 
2013-07-02 01:49:45 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: dslknowitall: This is why I brought my 5 and 6 year old out into the garage this past weekend and showed them how to use a table saw with a push stick and to wait until the blade stops to grab your cut.

Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".

Remember that most power tools have parts that were manufactured by Khorne industries.


Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it does.

Speaking of, I'd buy a woodchipper if it was a daemon engine. Not that I have wood that needs chipping, but it would be a nice conversion piece of the living room.
 
2013-07-02 01:54:09 PM  
www.angelfire.lycos.com
 
2013-07-02 01:54:58 PM  
i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-02 02:02:19 PM  

Nurglitch: Slaves2Darkness: dslknowitall: This is why I brought my 5 and 6 year old out into the garage this past weekend and showed them how to use a table saw with a push stick and to wait until the blade stops to grab your cut.

Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".

Remember that most power tools have parts that were manufactured by Khorne industries.

Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it does.

Speaking of, I'd buy a woodchipper if it was a daemon engine. Not that I have wood that needs chipping, but it would be a nice conversion piece of the living room.


"What the hell is that in the corner?"
"Ohh that, that's just my blood reaper....try not to look at it funny"
 
2013-07-02 02:14:52 PM  
This guy tried working on a machine that was still running and it killed him. How can you prevent stuff like this from happening to such stupid people?
 
2013-07-02 02:19:06 PM  
Everyone who isn't rnatile:
Those pics are from "Nothing But Trouble".

PS:
The term for death by wood chipper is 'morselised".
 
2013-07-02 02:24:06 PM  

bunner: Yeah, some guy was cleaning a piece of machinery and something that shouldn't have flown off, did and killed him.  What a failure.


This.

Also, having RTFA, I know this was a very neat person and will be missed by everyone who knew him.

/he was 60, though
//he lived a full life, at least
 
2013-07-02 02:24:23 PM  
"He was going to let some friends borrow the wood chipper, and he was showing them how to use it and clean it"

You just imagine what happened next.
 
2013-07-02 02:30:01 PM  

Grimble Crumble: Y'know, if I'm going to clean out the wood chipper for whatever reason, I'm not only going to wait until it stops making noise, I'm going to pull the lead off of the spark plug before I put my hand anywhere near the bitey part.  That thing's not only going to not be running, there will be no chance of it starting on it's own accord.


I don't even like working on a machine that's had the fuel lines drained and bled, battery removed, electrical cord pulled, and engine removed.

I still don't trust that bastard not to start up.
www.swisscinema.org

Had to replace a blade on the lawnmower. Even though I emptied the fuel and pulled the sparkplug, I was still nervous about the thing jumping if I moved the shaft too much.

/I've not actualy worked on a machine that required both a internal fuel motor AND and electical cord. Is there such a thing?
 
2013-07-02 02:35:59 PM  

0z79: bunner: Yeah, some guy was cleaning a piece of machinery and something that shouldn't have flown off, did and killed him.  What a failure.

This.

Also, having RTFA, I know this was a very neat person and will be missed by everyone who knew him.

/he was 60, though
//he lived a full life, at least


In 1800 it was.  Lately, more like 79 - 86.  Poor guy.
 
2013-07-02 02:37:18 PM  

jayessell: Everyone who isn't rnatile:
Those pics are from "Nothing But Trouble".

PS:
The term for death by wood chipper is 'morselised".


Um... Except in this case, which is "puncture wound".
 
2013-07-02 02:40:55 PM  

Sybarite: [cameronbcook.com image 620x350]

Maybe it was some kind of suicide pact?


Officer, you're not going to believe this...

/first thing I thought of
 
2013-07-02 03:01:28 PM  

belhade: [img.photobucket.com image 850x478]
I thought you said your chipper was broke?


+1 for the Supernatural reference.
 
2013-07-02 03:41:34 PM  

rnatalie: [angelsinnature.files.wordpress.com image 557x400]


Not necessarily obscure, but good on ya.

(since all the Fargo air had already been let out of the balloon)
 
2013-07-02 03:47:11 PM  
You're looking chipper today!

Why thank you Ja- AAARRGGHHH! (splurt) (crunch)
 
2013-07-02 04:07:49 PM  
It really doesn't sound like a freak accident to me. TFA is pretty clear that he removed a shield and stuck it into the moving innards, which fast-balled it into his chest. If he had not started to work on the wood chipper before it was completely stopped, he would have been fine.

OTOH I just watched an electrician create a couple new ceiling light fixtures in my house by running wires from existing ones a few feet away. He never turned off a single breaker while he did it. I guess that's safe since the hot wire isn't supposed to be connected to the light fixture with the switch off but you wouldn't catch me doing that.
 
2013-07-02 04:23:54 PM  

MythDragon: /I've not actualy worked on a machine that required both a internal fuel motor AND and electical cord. Is there such a thing?


0.tqn.com
 
2013-07-02 08:40:59 PM  

dslknowitall: This is why I brought my 5 and 6 year old out into the garage this past weekend and showed them how to use a table saw with a push stick and to wait until the blade stops to grab your cut.

Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".


Ya know, I would have gone with that "always assume the power tool craves your blood" part first, then shown them the safety measures. Because there's absolutely no chance a kid could figure out how to get into the garage and turn on a power tool without Mom or Dad present.
 
2013-07-02 10:15:30 PM  

darth_badger: [www.rankopedia.com image 229x320]

RIP CHIP


Winnah
 
2013-07-03 01:10:52 AM  

Jument: OTOH I just watched an electrician create a couple new ceiling light fixtures in my house by running wires from existing ones a few feet away. He never turned off a single breaker while he did it. I guess that's safe since the hot wire isn't supposed to be connected to the light fixture with the switch off but you wouldn't catch me doing that.


If he knew what he was doing, not an issue.

Unless you touch the live and the follow / ground, there's not really much risk, but if you do, you're going to have a bad time.

Just had to change a light switch (dual connection / switches) and I had to have the power on to figure out which wire was which (long story but simplified, the wires were either not coded correctly, or a scheme that I'm not familiar with as this was the first time I "play" with such a set-up).

I had my meter/tester handy, did several checks and tests, eventually figured it out, connected all the wires with the live one last, making sure that the switch was in the off position, no problem at all.

I just made sure I only touched one wire at the time, never touching the metal tips, and I wore proper footwear.
 
2013-07-03 11:31:35 AM  

Md37: belhade: [img.photobucket.com image 850x478]
I thought you said your chipper was broke?

+1 for the Supernatural reference.


Thanks! I used to be all about South Park and Denis Leary quotes, but Supernatural has opened up so many new opportunities.
 
2013-07-03 12:28:44 PM  

WordyGrrl: dslknowitall: This is why I brought my 5 and 6 year old out into the garage this past weekend and showed them how to use a table saw with a push stick and to wait until the blade stops to grab your cut.

Going to wait until they are a little older to tell them "always assume the power tool craves your blood".

Ya know, I would have gone with that "always assume the power tool craves your blood" part first, then shown them the safety measures. Because there's absolutely no chance a kid could figure out how to get into the garage and turn on a power tool without Mom or Dad present.


Fair enough. Although due to suburban life none of my power tools ever get left out or with power. I always have to Tetris them around, so the table saw in question is packed away under the bench with the saw blade fully retracted and the power cord wrapped up in back. Meanwhile due to a lack of outlets the only power source is a retractable extension cord on a different wall. Also there is a minivan blocking it all. :)

But fair enough point.
 
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