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(Detroit Free Press)   "I'm not trying to get out of a speeding ticket at this point" said the guy who's spend over two grand trying to get out of a $95 speeding ticket   (freep.com) divider line 122
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2013-07-01 06:04:58 PM
dudes right that is bs. the city is wasting tons of cash on this too. all they had to do was have the cop show up, they didnt. too bad and too sad they need to move on and stop harassing him
 
2013-07-01 06:08:28 PM
As much as I was ready to condemn him, after reading the article, I have to agree.  The big money law firm prosecutors screwed up and the city is only continuing out of embarrassment.   Why do Indian Hill prosecutors hate America?
 
2013-07-01 06:28:29 PM
It's not a $95 ticket. You have to factor points and impact to insurance rates. $2000 is nothing.
 
2013-07-01 06:28:42 PM

NickelP: dudes right that is bs. the city is wasting tons of cash on this too. all they had to do was have the cop show up, they didnt. too bad and too sad they need to move on and stop harassing him


No. This is Ohio. They have to burn their traffic laws and copy either PA's or WV's.
 
2013-07-01 06:32:24 PM

notmtwain: As much as I was ready to condemn him, after reading the article, I have to agree.  The big money law firm prosecutors screwed up and the city is only continuing out of embarrassment.   Why do Indian Hill prosecutors hate America?


this is the richest part of cincinnati where all the old money is. basically he pissed off a bunch of rich people who dont give two farks what it costs.
 
2013-07-01 06:33:45 PM
Pay the damn ticket. If you speed you are breaking the law. 54 in a 35 zone is a bit crazy. Stop being a d-bag and slow the hell down.
 
2013-07-01 06:34:32 PM
54 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
63 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
48 in a 25 mile-per-hour zone

These don't even include his highway speeding.  Forget $2,000 - he should lose his license.
 
2013-07-01 06:35:19 PM
Could've saved himself a lot of money by leaving five minutes earlier and slowing down...but he can't because he's an asshole.
 
2013-07-01 06:35:34 PM
Where the hell is a speeding ticket only $95.

It was a $36 ticket, but when the $59 court costs were added, it rose to $95.

WHAT? A $36 speeding ticket? Holy shiat.
 
2013-07-01 06:35:53 PM
One can't fault the poor prosecutors for screwing up - they just didn't understand the law. Its a reasonable mistake any attorney could make.
 
2013-07-01 06:36:26 PM

AliceBToklasLives: 54 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
63 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
48 in a 25 mile-per-hour zone

These don't even include his highway speeding.  Forget $2,000 - he should lose his license.



Exactly. Obey the farking law dipshiat.
 
2013-07-01 06:37:27 PM

jmr61: AliceBToklasLives: 54 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
63 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
48 in a 25 mile-per-hour zone

These don't even include his highway speeding.  Forget $2,000 - he should lose his license.


Exactly. Obey the farking law dipshiat.


...and let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-01 06:38:48 PM
Calculating time periods is the kind of law only an appellate judge could love.
 
2013-07-01 06:42:10 PM
Due Process exists for a reason, the Prosecution f*cked it up. The ticket should be thrown out.

What he's allegedly done is irrelevant.
 
2013-07-01 06:43:36 PM
Dude, they caught you. You were speeding and you know it, openly admit it even. Consider it the cost of doing business and pay your farking ticket.
 
2013-07-01 06:44:29 PM

netweavr: Due Process exists for a reason, the Prosecution f*cked it up. The ticket should be thrown out.

What he's allegedly done is irrelevant.


It's irresponsible to contest a ticket if you know you did it. You're just pissing away everyone else's tax dollars because you're a selfish prick.
 
2013-07-01 06:44:31 PM

doglover: NickelP: dudes right that is bs. the city is wasting tons of cash on this too. all they had to do was have the cop show up, they didnt. too bad and too sad they need to move on and stop harassing him

No. This is Ohio. They have to burn their traffic laws and copy either PA's or WV's.


What is special about PA's laws?
 
2013-07-01 06:44:46 PM
So, basically, the smarmy douche with the lead foot who relied on a technicality to try and get out of the ticket is pissed off that a technicality was used to keep the ticket on the docket.

I hope he gets hit by a bus on the way out of his next court date. And I hope his next of kin still has to pay the ticket. At the very least this twat should lose his license.
 
2013-07-01 06:46:14 PM

Jument: netweavr: Due Process exists for a reason, the Prosecution f*cked it up. The ticket should be thrown out.

What he's allegedly done is irrelevant.

It's irresponsible to contest a ticket if you know you did it. You're just pissing away everyone else's tax dollars because you're a selfish prick.


It's irresponsible for the Officer not to show up to the original trial. The case was thrown out. The prosecution can't just magic the case back into reality.
 
2013-07-01 06:46:22 PM

netweavr: Due Process exists for a reason, the Prosecution f*cked it up. The ticket should be thrown out.


It was. Twice. The cops keep re-issuing it. I'd sue the city for harassment. I'm sure he could find an attorney to take on his case on a contingency basis.
 
2013-07-01 06:48:08 PM

mrjared: Dude, they caught you. You were speeding and you know it, openly admit it even. Consider it the cost of doing business and pay your farking ticket.


Except he's been caught multiple times. I can only speculate, of course, but I'd bet at least part of his motivation in fighting is the same as the city's, just on the other side of the charge. If this ticket hits him, that starts the ball rolling and the way this twat drives it's only a matter of time until he loses his license. I would imagine the city is motivated by a similar belief.

There's speeding and then there's just driving like an unhinged maniac and it sounds like this guy is firmly in that latter territory.
 
2013-07-01 06:48:43 PM

skozlaw: So, basically, the smarmy douche with the lead foot who relied on a technicality to try and get out of the ticket is pissed off that a technicality was used to keep the ticket on the docket.

I hope he gets hit by a bus on the way out of his next court date. And I hope his next of kin still has to pay the ticket. At the very least this twat should lose his license.


How is it a technicality? You have a right to confront your accuser. Dude didn't show up. If you or I didn't show up for our court hearing they sure as hell wouldn't just give you a do over.I agreed that the guys an asshole but that doesn't mean we should just let the courts do whatever they want. They also didn't keep it on the docket with a technicality, what they did was illegal, which is the point. The courts so far have generally agreed with this.
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2013-07-01 06:49:56 PM
I like this guy. Can I contribute to his cause?
 
2013-07-01 06:52:28 PM

AliceBToklasLives: 54 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
63 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
48 in a 25 mile-per-hour zone

These don't even include his highway speeding.  Forget $2,000 - he should lose his license.


Bingo! many drivers speed regularly and don't rack up 8 tickets in 8 years. a little sense goes a long way. he's a dooshbag. a dooshbag that's making an insurance company wealthy. every day he drives is one mile closer to hurting an innocent person. let him walk like a 14 yr old for 5 years, he'll appreciate that license again.
 
2013-07-01 06:54:49 PM
I've never before thought that an insurance company should jack up someone's rates for a trumped-up reason, but now I have.
 
2013-07-01 06:55:17 PM

KrispyKritter: AliceBToklasLives: 54 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
63 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
48 in a 25 mile-per-hour zone

These don't even include his highway speeding.  Forget $2,000 - he should lose his license.

Bingo! many drivers speed regularly and don't rack up 8 tickets in 8 years. a little sense goes a long way. he's a dooshbag. a dooshbag that's making an insurance company wealthy. every day he drives is one mile closer to hurting an innocent person. let him walk like a 14 yr old for 5 years, he'll appreciate that license again.


This is even more reason why people should be pissed at the city for farking it up, it doesn't mean they should just disregard the law though.
 
2013-07-01 07:00:52 PM

NickelP: dudes right that is bs. the city is wasting tons of cash on this too. all they had to do was have the cop show up, they didnt. too bad and too sad they need to move on and stop harassing him


You submit this?
 
2013-07-01 07:00:58 PM

skozlaw: So, basically, the smarmy douche with the lead foot who relied on a technicality to try and get out of the ticket is pissed off that a technicality was used to keep the ticket on the docket.

I hope he gets hit by a bus on the way out of his next court date. And I hope his next of kin still has to pay the ticket. At the very least this twat should lose his license.


Due process is not a technicality.
 
2013-07-01 07:01:53 PM

ArcadianRefugee: NickelP: dudes right that is bs. the city is wasting tons of cash on this too. all they had to do was have the cop show up, they didnt. too bad and too sad they need to move on and stop harassing him

You submit this?


Nope
 
2013-07-01 07:02:25 PM
He should ask for asylum in Iceland.
 
2013-07-01 07:02:58 PM
How did he not get tickets for going almost 20 mph over. He should of been cited for reckless op
 
2013-07-01 07:07:34 PM
The lawyers acting as city prosecutors are making 4K an hour. I would suspect they may have encouraged the city to keep up the court shenanigans.
 
2013-07-01 07:07:50 PM

NickelP: Nope


Just checking.

Keith Ledgerwood ... has a smooth tongue that has helped him talk police out of writing him speeding tickets and cite him instead for lesser violations that don't affect his driver's license or auto insurance [and] was cited for going 54 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone. Ledgerwood immediately asked if the officer could cite him for something other than speeding because he had a good driving record

Something about that smacks of asking for leniency because you're an orphan while on trial for having killed your parents. Or some sort of weird perpetual loop or something. I dunno, but fark him. I hope he winds up spending another $2000 and still loses the case.
 
2013-07-01 07:08:04 PM

Quaker: skozlaw: So, basically, the smarmy douche with the lead foot who relied on a technicality to try and get out of the ticket is pissed off that a technicality was used to keep the ticket on the docket.

I hope he gets hit by a bus on the way out of his next court date. And I hope his next of kin still has to pay the ticket. At the very least this twat should lose his license.

Due process is not a technicality.


Isn't due process all about technicalities?  It's all about proving who is technically right.  Which is the best kind of right.
 
2013-07-01 07:08:40 PM
I'm torn here. Ohio cops love giving tickets. This is why Ohio drivers drive like slowpokes when they go out of state, because Ohio cops show no mercy. However, this guy is lucky he hasn't hurt or killed someone.

jshine: jmr61: AliceBToklasLives: 54 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
63 in a 35 mile-per-hour zone
48 in a 25 mile-per-hour zone

These don't even include his highway speeding.  Forget $2,000 - he should lose his license.


Exactly. Obey the farking law dipshiat.

...and let he who is without sin cast the first stone.


He was lucky he wasn't charged with Reckless Operation, which in Ohio carries with it a 6 month to 3 year license suspension.
 
2013-07-01 07:08:59 PM

NickelP: The courts so far have generally agreed with this.


Yea.

Well... I mean... except for that key higher court that didn't agree with it and, you know, is the whole reason it's still going.

Quaker: Due process is not a technicality.


And?
 
2013-07-01 07:18:08 PM
Ok, the city is out of line, here. Let this one go. I can promise you that this reckless asshole's name is out there now--he will never talk his way out of another speeding ticket. From now on, when he's pulled over, the officer is gonna throw everything he possibly can at him, and I'm glad. The city needs to be obey the law, but this guy needs to be off the roads. All of you "He who is without sin" people can ease up, by the way. Most people get a speeding ticket now and then. Most people speed now and then. This guy has gotten a ticket every year since 2004. The fact that he gets pulled over that often tells me that he speeds all the damn time.

Also, look at that sidebar--we're talking 20+ over, and at least one of those was in a 25 zone. Twenty-five is almost certainly a residential street, with kids and pets and pedestrians, and this jackass is doing 48 through it. fark him.

And this...I can't believe this guy dropped this line with a straight face:  "I feel like there's something fundamentally wrong, trying to get around the rules. " O RLY?
 
2013-07-01 07:26:46 PM

HwiNoree: Ok, the city is out of line, here. Let this one go. I can promise you that this reckless asshole's name is out there now--he will never talk his way out of another speeding ticket. From now on, when he's pulled over, the officer is gonna throw everything he possibly can at him, and I'm glad. The city needs to be obey the law, but this guy needs to be off the roads. All of you "He who is without sin" people can ease up, by the way. Most people get a speeding ticket now and then. Most people speed now and then. This guy has gotten a ticket every year since 2004. The fact that he gets pulled over that often tells me that he speeds all the damn time.

Also, look at that sidebar--we're talking 20+ over, and at least one of those was in a 25 zone. Twenty-five is almost certainly a residential street, with kids and pets and pedestrians, and this jackass is doing 48 through it. fark him.

And this...I can't believe this guy dropped this line with a straight face:  "I feel like there's something fundamentally wrong, trying to get around the rules. " O RLY?


2/10

You might get a bite, but brevity is the soul of wit. A good troll is short enough people think it's real.
 
2013-07-01 07:29:20 PM
If he wan't to spend his own money, fine. I'm nore pissed that they courts are also wasting thousands trying to get C-Note. Our tax dollars at work!
 
2013-07-01 07:31:11 PM
I think most highway/freeway speeding is not really a problem but it speeding around 35/25 zones to the tune of double the limit is dangerous and stupid.  The state needs lose the appeal and he needs to lose his license.
 
2013-07-01 07:36:54 PM

IRQ12: I think most highway/freeway speeding is not really a problem but it speeding around 35/25 zones to the tune of double the limit is dangerous and stupid.  The state needs lose the appeal and he needs to lose his license.


Pretty much.  The state is in the wrong here and the ticket needs to be dismissed, but this guy needs to be nailed to the wall as soon as he slips up again (and he will)
 
2013-07-01 07:37:54 PM

HwiNoree: Ok, the city is out of line, here. Let this one go. I can promise you that this reckless asshole's name is out there now--he will never talk his way out of another speeding ticket. From now on, when he's pulled over, the officer is gonna throw everything he possibly can at him, and I'm glad. The city needs to be obey the law, but this guy needs to be off the roads. All of you "He who is without sin" people can ease up, by the way. Most people get a speeding ticket now and then. Most people speed now and then. This guy has gotten a ticket every year since 2004. The fact that he gets pulled over that often tells me that he speeds all the damn time.

Also, look at that sidebar--we're talking 20+ over, and at least one of those was in a 25 zone. Twenty-five is almost certainly a residential street, with kids and pets and pedestrians, and this jackass is doing 48 through it. fark him.

And this...I can't believe this guy dropped this line with a straight face:  "I feel like there's something fundamentally wrong, trying to get around the rules. " O RLY?


Oh, fark him, sure. The guy is a jackass. But due process is fundamental to our legal system. The police and prosecution dropped the ball, they don't get to try again until they get it right. Hell, that double jeopardy thing is written into our Constitution, because the British did exactly that as a means to eventually secure a conviction of anybody they didn't like, regardless of the facts of the case. If the prosecutors don't like it, they can send somebody better than Bozo and Larry out to bat next time, and with the way this guy drives, there will be a next time.
 
2013-07-01 07:38:08 PM

Bruce the Deuce: Could've saved himself a lot of money by leaving five minutes earlier and slowing down...but he can't because he's an asshole.


Fark you! You can't tell him what to do!

Neither can the cops, appearantly.

This guy needs drone surveilance.
 
2013-07-01 07:38:23 PM

flak attack: IRQ12: I think most highway/freeway speeding is not really a problem but it speeding around 35/25 zones to the tune of double the limit is dangerous and stupid.  The state needs lose the appeal and he needs to lose his license.

Pretty much.  The state is in the wrong here and the ticket needs to be dismissed, but this guy needs to be nailed to the wall as soon as he slips up again (and he will)


I have a feeling he is going to have a handful of cops keeping an eye on him. If he goes through Indian hill again I bet he gets a 36 in a 35 ticket with a 'smash and your tail lights out' ticket.
 
2013-07-01 07:42:11 PM
$95 speeding ticket? I wish. My first and only speeding ticket was $290 for going 52 in a 45 MPH.
 
2013-07-01 07:42:54 PM

NickelP: I have a feeling he is going to have a handful of cops keeping an eye on him. If he goes through Indian hill again I bet he gets a 36 in a 35 ticket with a 'smash and your tail lights out' ticket.


Doubtful. I may be overestimating Ohio's Finest here, but I suspect they all have very strict orders to catch him on a by-the-book 36 in a 35 ticket. And a guarantee that the officer will be in court this time, well-rehearsed with the phrase "repeat offender".
 
2013-07-01 07:43:27 PM
Dude deserved the ticket but also deserves for it to be dismissed on a technicality.  D-bags all around on this one.
 
2013-07-01 07:43:38 PM
That's an awful lot of missing his 26 minute window at the gym.  That's what happens when you game the system and continue making the same mistakes, you mark yourself as a target.

Hell, they could even nail him on fraud at this point, confidence scamming the cops who wrote earlier tickets.

Glad some people in here are not simply hating cops because cops who have appeared to do just that in the past.  Shows some rational thought.

To those that are, like:Sin_City_Superhero:

Please go find a really fast moving bus and attempt to stop it with your face.

Speaking of marking yourself as a target...
 
2013-07-01 07:47:11 PM
Due process is the right to a fair hearing.  He has not yet had one.  When he is found "not guilty" then it's harassment if they do not stop.

/armchair lawyer degree from ISF U
//I sound fat university
 
2013-07-01 07:48:43 PM

loser0: NickelP: I have a feeling he is going to have a handful of cops keeping an eye on him. If he goes through Indian hill again I bet he gets a 36 in a 35 ticket with a 'smash and your tail lights out' ticket.

Doubtful. I may be overestimating Ohio's Finest here, but I suspect they all have very strict orders to catch him on a by-the-book 36 in a 35 ticket. And a guarantee that the officer will be in court this time, well-rehearsed with the phrase "repeat offender".


Yeah, which is part of why I cannot rationalize why they want to keep pursuing this case. He could get the inevitable 36 in a 35 thrown out on harassment grounds if they keep this up.
 
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