Almost Everybody Poops: Hopefully legal citizens have had a reality check and now realize what voting for Obama has gotten you. He cares more about the illegals than he does millions of legal citizens on unemployment and welfare. How does this reform bill benefit legal citizens? What part of rewarding criminals with citizenship will make our economy better? If americans don't wake up soon and fight this bill with the House this will be another failing third world country in the very near future.
AnonAmbientLight: Wait, no path to citizenship in the bill?[www.nypost.com image 300x300]"You tell me how we're going to catch eleven million people. Are you out of your farking mind?!"
Almost Everybody Poops: Infernalist: Imagine living your whole life in America, but knowing that there was a greater nation out there, one that made America look like crap by comparison.Better still, that nation 'wanted' you there, but didn't make it easy. 10-15 year wait, thousands of dollars and nothing was guaranteed. But, better still, if you got there and if you were careful, deported you could have a piece of that amazing country for yourself.The way is dangerous and people die trying to get there, every day. But your kids are worth it and you deem that prize worth the risk.Your friends don't agree. Most stay where they are, content to live in that second-rate country and not take the risks. You want that prize, however, so you take the risks and make the trip over.The pay is terrible and you risk being found and sent back home every day. But, your kids have a better world now. Better education, better care, a less corrupt government, a cleaner environment. It's a good deal.The only downside is that you're there illegal and your employers know it for the most part. They pay you less than legal citizens and the ones that complain either get fired on the spot or ratted out to their version of ICE.See, they want you there to do the jobs that their own citizens won't do, at ridiculously low wages. But, they push you away with the other hand, condemning you as a criminal for being there illegally.Try, just 'try' to put yourself into their shoes. They're not lazy or evil. They're just the bravest of their citizens willing to take enormous risks for their families and for themselves. We should applaud their bravery even as we work hard to try and make it easier for these massively self-motivated people to find a legitimate place in our country.
AliceBToklasLives: This turned into a SNAP flamewar? Seriously? Let's debate who should have access to program that feeds people? I don't believe any of you are serious. This is an exercise for some class, right?
Fart_Machine: o5iiawah: Fart_Machine will go 100 rounds saying that by simply existing and breathing in this country, you owe a pound of flesh to fund clean air, clean water, schools, police, fire, military, courts and a basic way of life and if you dont like it, move to Somalia.What you going 100 rounds might look like.[phillips.blogs.com image 506x378]
Fart_Machine: o5iiawah: You found a small nugget or information or talking point you thought made your argument when as it turns out, your source agrees with me that there needs to be tougher enforcement of illegal immigrants who are caught on the program./facepalmIt's like a double-down of fail.
Dwight_Yeast: gfid: SecretAgentWoman: If they don't pass it, current citizens of Hispanic descent will vote Democrat in the next election.Do you actually know any people who are supposedly "hispanic"?First of all, that's a bullshiat term. They're white just like me. Secondly the ones who have ancestors from Mexico or other Spanish speaking nations actually are proud that they immigrated legally and don't appreciate people sneaking over the border.Of course, that cannot be applied to all so-called "hispanics", but many of them do feel that way and many do vote republican.Don't make the mistake of lumping all "hispanics" together.If by "Many" you mean "a few Cubans in Miami who want to stick it to Castro", then yes. But generally speaking, the majority of Hispanics vote Democratic.
God-is-a-Taco: white countries
meat0918: You know, Boehner could scour the GOP of the Frankenstein's Monster called the Tea Party if they passed the Senate bill and pickup some minority voters that while it wouldnOf course, the GOP would cease to exist, so I can see why he isn't doing that.
Almost Everybody Poops: A path to citizenship for those who are here illegally is a slap in the face to all of those who have played by the rules, stood in line, and waited patiently to immigrate legally
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